IRC Logs for #cmvt Wednesday, 2013-05-29

prologicOk so I'll still need you to show me some of the00:06
prologicOAIPH and what not00:07
prologicforget the other00:07
prologicand some basic plone :)00:07
DanielBairdwait, you mean I've been using hg and bitbucket all the time and they're not official Griffith eRersearch standard tools?00:08
DanielBaird* this.. "all this time"00:09
prologicheh00:10
DanielBairdIt's okay prologic, I forgive you for making me hg/bitbucket instead of git/github.00:10
prologiceven if I had git/github'd00:10
prologicI would have continued using mercurial00:10
prologichahaha00:10
prologicgw:  git://git.code.sf.net/p/ccaih/buildout00:10
gwbtw. DanialBaird did you know that you will probably get a free academic plan on bitbucket with your work email address?00:10
prologicthis is the buildout repo I need?00:10
prologicit should pull in the other repos right?00:10
gwyes00:10
prologickk00:11
DanielBairdhmm that's cool.  I'd probably like bb better using git with it.  Not sure if I need >5 people on secret projects, though.  Anyway, back to Pivotal, nearly done...00:13
prologicgw:  so node is installed via buildout00:14
gwyes00:14
prologicpython2.7 built from source to /usr/local00:14
prologicas well as 4store to /usr00:14
gwthere should be an official repo for  4store if you want00:14
prologican rpm repo?00:14
gwyes00:14
prologicyeah sweet00:14
prologicI'll set that up (seeing as they have one)00:14
prologicDanielBaird: Mercurial is easier to use :)00:15
prologicmwhahaha :)00:15
gwna it isn't :)00:15
prologicyeah it is :)00:15
prologicwe talked about this00:15
prologicgit's man page is like reading gibberish :)00:16
prologicand it's command set is awkward :)00:16
DanielBairdyeah i started on mercurial when i moved from svn.  it's just the weight of all the git love in the world that moved me on to git.  Now it's in my reflexive workflow though, it's hard to go back to hg00:16
prologicyeah I don't get this (from a philosophical) pint of view00:17
prologicwhy people tend to shift towards something00:17
prologicjust because large masses of people are as well00:17
prologicor so it seems00:17
prologicevolution?00:17
prologic:)00:17
prologiclol00:17
gwand somehow most things I do with a vcs is a bit more straightforward in git than in hg.00:17
prologicit's still quite awkward00:17
prologicfor the simplest things it's "okay"00:17
prologicgit add; git commit; git pull; etc00:18
prologicbut when you get into more obscure things it gets hard fast00:18
gwit probably depends on how a certain workflow matches your own mindset00:18
DanielBairdi still can't work out a good hg alternative to the way git lets you have uncommitted changes when you're pulling.00:18
prologicyou're probably used to named branches in git00:18
prologicwhereas I've been used to proper clones00:18
prologicmercurial only got named branches later on00:18
prologicgit's named branches are equivalent to hgext.bookmarks00:19
prologicwhere you can essentially tag a revision with a bookmark that follows the life cycle of the revision and moves along with it00:19
prologicyou can merge with it, update with it, etc00:19
prologicwhen you're done you can also delete it00:19
prologicbut honestly, I don't use the much :)00:19
prologicDanielBaird:  hg pull --rebase00:20
prologicthat will let you pull in changes00:20
prologicwhilst having uncommitted changes00:20
prologicI'm pretty sure00:20
prologicgw:  yes00:20
prologicsame as git's internal named branching00:20
prologicit's identical behavior00:20
prologicwhereas a tag is different00:20
prologica tag names a revision and is committed to the repo00:20
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