IRC Logs for #crux-devel Thursday, 2007-02-22

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prologicoh god that's scary03:25
prologicwhy do I account for 41% of the contrib ports :/03:26
prologicdon't we have very many contrib maintainres ?03:26
treachtilman: got time to look at my first attempt ever at an official bugreport?03:41
prologichi treach wb03:44
prologicbeen sick ?03:45
treachyeah, the flu.03:46
prologicdamn03:47
prologicsorry to hear03:47
treachno problem, I survived. :)03:47
prologicyeah03:48
prologicI had chicken pox earlier this year03:48
prologicnot fun :)03:48
treachyikes. Aren't you a bit too old for that? :p03:48
prologicnever got it as a kid :/03:49
prologicmy gf gave it to me before xmas03:49
prologicand I came down with it on new year's day03:49
treachheh, some present, eh? :X03:49
prologicyeah03:49
prologicgreat love sharing :)03:49
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treachtilman: I updated the bugreport, screenshots available at the same location, fvwm.with.{xaa,exa}.jpg04:47
tilmantreach: oh, list the version of xorg-xf86-video-ati, too :)04:49
treachok.04:49
tilmanit's okay otherwise04:49
treachadded04:49
tilmanid?04:50
treachnot yet..04:50
tilmanok04:50
treachI meant I had added the ati-version. :)04:51
tilmanyeah04:54
treachtilman: 1005905:01
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j^2morning yall08:39
aonhi j^208:40
j^2feeling better aon?08:41
aonyeah, for a long time now08:42
aon:)08:42
aonmy server got somehow busted, running memcheck now08:42
aonno errors so far08:42
aonircing with gaim is horrible :)08:42
jaegermorning08:43
aonmorning jaeger08:43
Romsterhttp://pastebin.com/886488 iputils fails to build but it built in a chroot don't know why...08:44
Romsterin 2.308:44
Romsteraon, eww :/08:44
Romsteryo jaeger08:44
aonRomster: yep :(08:45
jaegerthat was mentioned yesterday but I couldn't duplicate it08:45
Romsteraon, i'd rather use irssi than gaim :P08:46
Romsterbitchx is such a bitch :D08:46
Romsterjaeger, strange i can duplicate it.08:46
aonRomster: yeah, but i'm too lazy to compile it08:46
Romsteri rebuilt everything 3 times in core on that box same result08:46
Romsteraon, ah :/08:47
j^2morning jaeger08:47
Romsteri always have irssi and elinks as a backup.08:47
aonyes, well, i have irssi as primary08:47
aonand gaim as backup08:47
aonbut my irc box is fux0red now08:47
Romsterjaeger, anything i can try as this seems to be recreateable.08:47
Romsteraon, you reckon ya got bad mem08:48
jaegerhttp://acheron.frc.utulsa.edu:81/~jaeger/output.txt08:49
jaegerfigure out why glibc-bugs.h doesn't exist08:49
aonRomster: _what_?08:49
aon:D08:49
Romsteraon, good one. I meant the irc box it crashed and corupted the hard disk from bad memory.08:51
aonah.08:51
aondunno, it booted up and crashed immediately08:52
aonit was actually running until the power chord was touched08:52
Romsteroh08:52
aon*cord08:52
pitilloRomster, readed the error and here I got the same08:53
Romsterhrmm odd so you got that file...08:53
Romsterglibc-bugs.h08:53
Romsterprt-get fsearch glibc-bugs.h, returns nothing..08:54
jaegerit should be in the iputils source08:54
Romsteroh hrmm08:54
jaegerperhaps it has something to do with non-default optimization flags08:55
jaegerthough that seems unlikely08:55
Romstertryed -O2 -mtune=pentium3 -pipe and -O2 -march=i686 -pipe, same result08:56
Romsterformer is my default for that box.08:56
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cptnhey08:57
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jaegerheyo, cptn :)08:57
Romsterfind / -name glibc-bugs.h dosn't return a thing so it has to be a local source path problem then.08:57
Romsterhi cptn08:57
jaegerI wouldn't expect to find it anywhere but in the source08:58
j^2morning cptn!08:59
jaegerhave a look at lines 13 and 17 of the Makefile08:59
pitillohi cptn08:59
cptnjaeger: your build log doesn't build any ipsec stuff08:59
cptnwhich is the part which fails for Romster08:59
jaegerperhaps because I don't have the /usr/src/linux symlink or use ipsec in the kernel09:00
cptnyeah09:00
jaegerhow lame09:00
Romsterhrmm seems to be ipsec related which i tink is kernel related09:02
Romsterthink*09:02
Romsterthats 2.6.17.14 running on that box i must of had that on in my desktop kernel.09:02
Romsterthe first line of the box is about libipsec09:03
Romsteryet on the chroot on my desktop it skips that part.09:03
jaegerhttp://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/patches/iputils-ss021109-try.patch <--- mind trying this?09:05
pitillohere built with image from cdrom and custom kernel without ipsec stuff. (created linux simlink in my case)09:05
Romsterjaeger, hmm i'll give it a try09:06
cptnjaeger: from that it's most certainly the /usr/src/linux symlink09:08
jaegeryeah09:09
Romsteri added the symlink09:09
jaegerI hate stupid software09:09
cptnyep, that's the problem09:09
cptnit's conditionally compiled if it finds a particular header file09:09
pitilloat rc.shutdown line 30 command /usr/bin/sleep 5 -> /bin/sleep here (with sip test iso)09:11
Romstercan of whooparse on that patch heaps of conflicting types for 'dev_t'09:11
jaegerok, will look closer09:11
pitillo(do not know if it is fixed by now)09:11
jaegerRomster: try http://acheron.frc.utulsa.edu:81/~jaeger/iputils-ss021109-try.patch09:14
jaegerpatch -i $SRC/$name-$version.patch Makefile09:14
Romsterthere is a later version i heard ya was saying about something needed to make the man pages..09:14
Romsterk09:15
jaegeryeah, needs docbook/sgml stuff. I'll maybe build the man pages separately and package them, dunno. it's ugly but I'd like to be able to upgrade iputils09:15
Romsterb4 or after the ipg patch?09:15
jaegerdoesn't matter09:15
jaegerit works for me in my 2.3 vm (created the symlink)09:17
Romsterhmm can't download that patch odd09:19
cptnworked here09:19
cptnbut you can probably also use http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/iputils/files/021109-no-pfkey-search.patch?rev=1.1.1.1&view=markup09:19
cptn:-)09:19
Romsterprobbly gotta open port 8109:19
jaegerI suppose either would work09:20
cptnyeah09:20
Romsterok that worked09:21
Romsterthe one on jaeger's site09:21
jaegerok09:21
Romsteralot of differ in signedness, but it compiled09:22
Romsterah your just skiping the check kernel check...09:25
jaegerthat was already skipped in the Pkgfile, anyway09:25
Romsteroh yeah in the sed09:26
Romsterok odd..09:27
Romstersed issue?09:27
jaegerdon't think so, that's coincidental09:28
Romster-e 's/^\(all:\) check-kernel/\1/' \        should of removed the kernel check but i guess it didn't09:30
Romstermaybe its a tab and not a space?09:30
cptnit removed the check for the directory09:31
cptnif that line wasn't there, the package would have failed to compile without the symlink09:31
jaegerbingo09:31
cptnsince /usr/src/linux is deprecated, that check was disabled09:31
jaegerin other words, the check-kernel thing is not related to your problem09:31
cptnhowever the build will fail if some still have the /usr/src/linux symlink09:31
jaegerwhy?09:32
jaegerit builds both ways for me09:32
cptnwell, would fail before your patch09:32
jaegeryes09:32
jaegerit should work for both now, though09:32
cptnprobably it would have worked with a glibc from back then :-)09:32
jaeger(and does here)09:32
Romsternar that bit is ok i see it09:33
Romstermodules: check-kernel09:33
Romsterthink thats it :/ being called from another location09:33
cptn...09:33
jaegerI don't understand, could you elaborate?09:34
Romsteri might be dumbfounded but you seded out check-kernel from all:09:34
jaegerah, there's a modules: target in the makefile that builds check-kernel09:34
Romsterbut there is another call to check-kernel from modules09:34
jaegermodules shouldn't be called09:35
cptnbut make modules isn't called, is it?09:35
Romstershouldn't be was jsut a guess.09:36
RomsterSUBDIRS=libipsec setkey < there it is...09:41
Romstercalled from libipsec's Makefile09:41
cptnerr09:41
tilmanlook who's visiting09:42
tilmanhey cptn :)09:42
cptnhey09:42
cptntilman: :-)09:42
cptnRomster: didn't you understand what the problem is?09:42
Romsterpartly, i'm still learning this side of the code.09:43
Romsteri must admit this is a bit over the top for me, more guess work09:43
cptntilman: I figured I could drop in once in a while :-)09:43
Romsterbut trying to understand it.09:43
cptnwell, the original Makefile had a dependency on the 'subdirs' target09:44
tilmancptn: did you hear we're finally tying up 2.3? :D09:44
cptnRomster: if the symlink is there, the original Makefile would add libipsec to the list of subdirs09:45
cptntilman: I just saw some activities in the bug tracked09:45
cptnmissed the tuesday meeting unfortunately09:45
Romsterheh09:46
Romsterok i tested with and without, a symlink i think double checking that.09:46
Romstercptn, yeah your hardly about anymore :/09:47
Romsterok i'll be dammed without the /usr/src/linux symlink it builds...09:48
Romsterwhy didn't i check that earlier...09:48
Romsteryeash :/09:48
Romsterrebuilt core 3 times to make sure i hadn't had anything depending on anything else messed up.09:49
Romsterbootstraped another words.09:49
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jjpkhttp://linuxmafia.com/faq/Kernel/usr-src-linux-symlink.html09:51
Romsterbut if its building libipsec it must hate this version of the kernel?09:52
cptnno09:52
jaegerRomster: if it finds that file, pfkeyv2.h, it adds those subdirs to the build09:52
cptnit hates the version of glibc probably09:52
cptnor rather expects a much older one09:52
jaegeryeah09:52
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Romsterand the penny dropes, ka-ching09:58
Romsteraddes the subdirectorys yes that i can understand in the make file, but the not compiling bit didn't till i read that url jjpk pasted09:59
Romsternow it makes scense.09:59
aon 6:01PM  up 12 mins, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.17, 0.1510:01
aon\o/, still hasn't crashed10:01
Romsterit should be seeing the kernel header files that glibc was linked with and that is the one bundeled in glibc kernel-headers-2.6.18.tar.bz210:01
jaegerwoot10:01
tilmani guess we're good to go10:01
Romsteraon, so far so good :D10:01
Romsterso basicly my fault for doing that, linking to the kernel but not the headers that glibc was compiled with, so you shouldnt be patching a user fault :|10:02
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cptnwell, it's not that easy10:03
cptnthe compilation is conditional and done purely when the kernel header exists10:04
cptnin /usr/src/linux that is10:04
cptnthe compilation itself includes a header which doesn't come with current glibcs anymore10:04
cptnso the compilation fails there10:04
jaegerhopefully a newer iputils will solve that problem but I've got to work around the documentation problem first10:05
Romsterwhich is incorrect ah so it should be pointing to usr/include10:05
cptnyeah, iputils git doesn't seem to have a libipsec subdirectory10:06
cptnno10:06
cptnyou should probably use glibc 2.1 with that iputils version10:06
cptnthat's just a guess BTW ;-)10:07
cptnbut yeah, don't add any /usr/src/linux symlink and you're all set10:07
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Romsterok i still don't get it...10:20
Romster-e 's|^KERNEL_INCLUDE=.*|KERNEL_INCLUDE=/usr/include|' \10:20
Romsteri added that.10:21
Romstershould point to the right kernel headers10:21
Romsterok i missed the libc is pointing to the right location so that other bit is redudent...10:21
Romsteri must be boring you lot with my blabering here :/ i'll leave it to you to fix, though that patch works i some how think bypassing isn't the right thing(tm) to do10:21
cptnNO10:21
cptn/usr/include is not kernel headers10:21
tilman/usr/include/linux10:22
cptnwell, the patch disables compilation of the libipsec subdirectory10:22
cptnwhich isn't even included anymore in the recent versions of iputils10:22
Romsterthats where the crux kernel-headers are pointing to in glibc ?10:22
cptnso it seems like it's the best thing to do, considering that some might hit a compilation error otherwise10:22
cptnalthough, not that /usr/include/linux contains the userspace headers10:24
cptnand packages relying on /usr/src/linux usually use all kinds of kernel headers10:24
cptnwhich is usually a bad idea10:24
Romstertilman, oh you are right :/ just looked the path is in the archive.10:25
Romstercptn, never knew about that problem but i learned about it now.10:30
cptntime to go home10:34
cptnhave a nice day :-)10:34
tilmanyou to :)10:35
tilmanugh, too10:35
cptnheh, thanks10:35
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Romsterhrmm let me know if this is a problem, my firewall is using iptables-imq thats linked to the kernel headers of 2.6.17.14 but the rest of iptables is linked to the kernel headers, the new headers in /usr/include/linux don't work on the IMQ modules, thats a problem? incompatability? i'd be wise to recompile glibc with 2.6.17.14 kernel-headers and the entire system again?10:36
clbUpdate from opt: 22 Feb 16:07 - smpeg: disabled gtv, removed manpage10:36
Romsterand same problem on the crux-2.2 though the kernel-headers on crux-2.2's glibc are much older, they don't match versions..10:37
Romsteractually thats a question i should be asking them, sorry about that.10:41
Romsteri should of read the faq seems its ok for that case10:44
RomsterThe iptables IMQ target shared libs are only built if your kernel tree has been patched to include the IMQ target10:44
Romsterso i guess that one is a excemption, but the other cases are not.10:45
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clbUpdate from opt: 22 Feb 17:19 - mdadm: update to 2.6.1 || 22 Feb 17:18 - dropbear: update to 0.4911:38
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sepenwhat do you think about put my ati port on contrib?13:31
treachwhat a clown.13:57
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tilman:D14:11
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jaegerwonder where mark is these days19:54
prologicmar k?19:57
prologicI wonder where Anton is19:57
prologicwhere's the pkgutils-c disappeared to ?19:58
jaegerno idea19:59
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