IRC Logs for #crux-devel Tuesday, 2012-01-17

Romsterperhaps patched git or something?00:46
Romstererr i mean grub not git00:46
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jaegerMust be, though the author gave no indication of what patches he might have used08:24
jaegerI still have fedora's to try, didn't get around to that yesterday08:24
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sepenjue: I'm still regarding notes for sending a mail related to rc-ng09:22
sepenit worked fine but I have lot of questions to ask, and also things that I cannot understand why they are, etc.09:23
jaegerWould anyone be opposed to adding --enable-rule_generator to core/udev?09:56
jaegerNEW       -rw-r--r--      root/root       lib/udev/rule_generator.functions09:56
jaegerNEW       -rw-r--r--      root/root       lib/udev/rules.d/75-cd-aliases-generator.rules09:56
jaegerNEW       -rw-r--r--      root/root       lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules09:56
jaegerNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       lib/udev/write_cd_rules09:56
jaegerNEW       -rwxr-xr-x      root/root       lib/udev/write_net_rules09:56
sepenjaeger: how that affects to your installation? and why not have the rules in etc/udev/rules.d/?10:02
jaegerIt generates cd and net rules for you... I don't really care about the net device rules but it will create appropriate cdrom links like /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, etc.10:06
entepersistent-net is useful too10:08
jaegersome apps like 'eject' assume /dev/cdrom exists. in most cases you can specify /dev/sr0 instead but it'd be nice to have the system automatically make the symlinks for me10:08
sepenwell I used to edit 70-persitent-net.rules on fedora/centos, that's a common task after deploy and import ovf templates on vmware, for some strange reason it changes mac address10:08
entesepen: it shouldn't change MAC addresses, it should match them and change the interface number10:08
entebased on the hardware-MAC address10:08
sepenyep, I've renamed eth0 to sepen0 in a box :D10:08
entewhich makes sense :P10:09
sepenente: yes sorry, it does exactly that10:09
entei.e. if you plug in another ethernet card, you might not want it to become eth010:09
entebecause eth0 might be your internal interface, while the new thing might be meant as external interface10:09
enteusually, the position of the devices on the bus shouldn't randomly change10:10
enteexcept maybe for USB devices (think USB wireless) depending on whether they are plugged in on boot or not10:10
enteI think enabling persistent-net is for the greater good :P10:11
jaegerthe VM system changes the mac address, not udev10:11
jaegerwhen the mac changes udev makes new ethX entries10:11
entevirtual memory?10:11
sepenwell it changed after clone a guest.OS on vmware10:11
jaegerso if you clone a VM, you get new ethX10:11
sepenjaeger: that is10:11
jaegerit's easy to fix10:11
jaegerjust explaining10:11
entejust unlink the persistent-net.rules10:11
sepenwell, I used to edit this file10:11
enteazlright :)10:11
entesepen: well, since it's generated anyway10:11
entebut whatever10:12
jaegerRomster: I ended up sending a big email just now to one of the grub2 ninjas10:35
jaegermaybe he'll know what I'm doing wrong10:35
jaegerAnyway, as far as the rule-generator stuff in udev, I think the only reason we disabled it is because it used to be in the "extras" stuff10:39
jaegernow it's a separate configure option10:39
jaegerSo unless anyone has a complaint about it I'd like to request we readd just that part10:40
sepenjaeger: +110:53
sepenbut also I'd like to test the new port in a real box when possible10:55
sepennow it's time to go back home, see ya'10:55
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jaeger <-- this should fix the grub compilation with automake 1.11.2 I think14:23
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