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| Romster | teK_, seems crux.nu is up but not web service | 01:48 |
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| jue | good morning | 02:26 |
| Romster | morning jue | 02:32 |
| Romster | seems site is up but no web site. might just need to be started? | 02:32 |
| Romster | anyone know what the problem was? | 02:35 |
| jue | not me | 02:46 |
| jue | btw, I've updated all xorg drivers we ship on our ISO to the latest version | 02:46 |
| jue | Romster: are you going to do the pending xorg updates? | 02:46 |
| jue | that's evdev and intel | 02:47 |
| Romster | i was going to take a look once crux.nu is up | 02:54 |
| acrux | jaeger: will steev send to you a genesi smarbook? nice! | 03:01 |
| acrux | pitillo: #crux-arm | 03:05 |
| frinnst | I got a sms from charlie: he's on vacation but he will have a coworker look into it | 03:33 |
| Romster | frinnst, it's up now so maybe co-worker got it up | 03:37 |
| Romster | could we setup a full crux mirror and setup backup dns servers for dealing with this transparently? | 03:38 |
| frinnst | oh= | 03:53 |
| teK_ | thanks frinnst | 03:54 |
| jue | I've committed a bunch of changes to our iso.git, would be nice to have some audit, mainly for setup-helper | 04:34 |
| jue | my changes to core- and opt-ports for 2.8 are avail via git now -> git clone http://jue.ods.org/scm/crux-2.8.git | 06:02 |
| frinnst | jue: looks sane | 06:09 |
| frinnst | jue have you run into the glibc resolv assert bug? | 06:15 |
| frinnst | http://ee2a9636e893895b.paste.se/ | 06:18 |
| frinnst | http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13013 | 06:20 |
| jue | frinnst: no, but haven't done much with 2.8 with besides building all ports, kernel etc. | 06:28 |
| frinnst | it's the only patch i've applied to my port | 06:29 |
| jue | hmm, the bug report is very old, I don't get it why it is not fixed with 2.16? | 06:30 |
| frinnst | because drepper is a fucking idiot | 06:32 |
| frinnst | :) | 06:32 |
| frinnst | I think there's a patch for 2.17 | 06:33 |
| jue | :) | 06:35 |
| jue | frinnst: you run in that bug? | 06:38 |
| jue | that's strange, even no fix in the master branch | 06:39 |
| frinnst | yes | 06:40 |
| frinnst | running nscd mitigates the problem slightly | 06:41 |
| jue | ok, will apply it | 06:43 |
| jue | frinnst: thanks for the hint | 06:44 |
| jue | frinnst: that's what I've found about it -> http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-05/msg00683.html | 06:49 |
| jue | so you have a poorly acting dns server ;) | 06:50 |
| jue | frinnst: the patch doesn't apply for me, both hunks failed? | 07:00 |
| frinnst | it's a local bind 9.8.3-P2 :) | 07:01 |
| jue | oops | 07:01 |
| frinnst | hm, works for me on 2.16 | 07:01 |
| frinnst | http://www.obra.se/glibc-resolv-assert.diff | 07:09 |
| jue | that's better, was a whitepsace issue with the paste | 07:15 |
| jue | looks like paste.se is doing something wrong if you switch it to 'Show as plain text' | 07:15 |
| Romster | shame that didn't get into glibc 2.16 | 07:32 |
| jue | yeah, indeed | 07:38 |
| frinnst | sepen: freetype configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --disable-nls | 07:47 |
| frinnst | asdf, offline "#!ยค | 07:47 |
| frinnst | teK_: patch for slim with new libpng: http://developer.berlios.de/patch/download.php?id=3299 | 08:09 |
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| jaeger | acrux: yeah, hopefully this weekend | 08:51 |
| teK_ | frinnst: thanks will apply tonight | 08:52 |
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| frinnst | qt4 is currently broken, no? | 08:57 |
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| jaeger | jue: pushed my changes up, had to rework a lot of it since you got yours pushed first :D | 09:25 |
| jaeger | yay for downtime | 09:25 |
| horrorStruck | hmm i mentioned it here one or two times but we shouldn't use gcc 4.7.1, is the new toolchain set in stone yet? | 09:28 |
| jaeger | I've seen you mention it a few times but why shouldn't it be used? It is the current release, after all | 09:31 |
| horrorStruck | it's broken | 09:33 |
| jaeger | Are you referring again to the C++ ABI changes or to something else? | 09:39 |
| horrorStruck | yes | 09:40 |
| horrorStruck | http://jaegerandi.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/gcc-47-c-abi-changes-and-opensuse-122.html | 09:40 |
| jaeger | yeah, I've been there | 09:40 |
| jaeger | I'm no expert on C++ but it seems a pretty specific situation | 09:40 |
| horrorStruck | no expert either and i've been using 4.7.1 without too much trouble but do we want to use a known to be broken toolchain? | 09:41 |
| jaeger | I don't see this as a problem for crux, to be honest. correct me if I'm wrong but since we're building everything from source using our own toolchain we shouldn't run into this except in the case where someone is trying to update an older lib that uses C++11 mode? | 09:44 |
| jaeger | I don't even know how you would go about compiling in C++11 mode, heh | 09:45 |
| jaeger | Doing a bit of searching, though, I guess it's the "new" thing, not an old thing | 09:46 |
| jaeger | starting with gcc 4.6 | 09:46 |
| jaeger | "Some compilers, such as GCC, do not automatically enable support for these features--for example, to enable C++11 features, you must compile with -std=c++0x. Nonetheless, they are still valuable if you're working on a project where you can control the choice of compiler and set of language features." <-- interesting point | 09:46 |
| jaeger | I wonder how much code explicitly specifies that | 09:49 |
| jaeger | I'm guessing very little since gcc 4.5 is so prevalent | 09:51 |
| horrorStruck | if i understand correctly, we might have an issue when upgrading to gcc 4.7.2 http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-dev-public@archlinux.org/msg19679.html | 09:56 |
| jaeger | with no idea when 4.7.2 might be released we could pull the specific patches from the gcc git | 09:57 |
| jaeger | took me a while to find them in the gcc git but they're also linked in that mail | 09:58 |
| horrorStruck | that would be safer maybe :) | 09:59 |
| jaeger | I expect this bug has very little impact on crux users but I'm not against patching it if 4.7.2 doesn't become available before 2.8's release | 10:00 |
| horrorStruck | isn't there a risk of bigger issues when gcc 4.7.2 will reach core if 4.7.1 is not patched? | 10:02 |
| horrorStruck | (if what the arch guy says is correct) | 10:03 |
| jaeger | yes, definitely | 10:04 |
| jaeger | likely a very small risk but it's there | 10:04 |
| jaeger | I'll do some testing with those patches on my toolchain VM but I expect they're safe | 10:45 |
| frinnst | jue: xsane: sed -i -e 's/png_ptr->jmpbuf/png_jmpbuf(png_ptr)/' "src/xsane-save.c" | 10:47 |
| frinnst | https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377363 | 10:48 |
| jaeger | figures they don't apply cleanly to 4.7.1 | 11:54 |
| horrorStruck | jaeger: what about using a 4.7.1 snapshot? (what i'm doing atm) | 12:05 |
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| jaeger | I'm not a big fan of snapshots but it's an option | 12:11 |
| jaeger | I wonder if 4.7.2 will be available soon | 12:11 |
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