IRC Logs for #crux-devel Wednesday, 2012-08-15

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frinnstright teK_, so what's needed? ssh access and ~15-20gb storage?03:02
teK_yes03:19
teK_and a shiny and good morning to all of you03:19
teK_*flowers*03:19
frinnst..03:22
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cruxtek sux03:23
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teK_xD03:23
frinnst(mature)03:23
teK_WHAT03:23
teK_I was just being kind03:24
teK_and this is what I get; eternal flames to hell ;__;03:24
frinnstssh-copy-id ?03:36
teK_haha03:38
teK_I'd send you a public key03:39
teK_if that's ok03:39
frinnstsure03:39
teK_good03:39
teK_and yes 15-20GB should be fine03:40
frinnstjust need to get port 22 open from the outside03:40
teK_I estimate our _real_ disk usage to be just under 10GB (/ and /home)03:40
teK_thanks a lot03:40
frinnsti've given it 25gb03:40
teK_<303:40
teK_that's icecream, don't get me wrong!03:41
frinnstof course it is..03:41
frinnstshould be open soon03:57
frinnstonly allows incoming 22 connections from crux.nu03:58
frinnstwhere can i find the pubkey?03:59
teK_I have no access to the server right now04:02
teK_wait.04:02
frinnsthttps://www.archlinux.org/news/the-lib-directory-becomes-a-symlink/ :)05:01
Romsterwhat the hell. does this mean that you can't umount /usr anymore.05:34
Romsterother than that dumb systemd removing support for that.05:34
Romsterafaik arch does not use systemd05:34
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frinnstRomster: yeah it does, sort of07:23
frinnstit will with future releases07:23
frinnsthttp://allanmcrae.com/2012/08/are-we-removing-what-defines-arch-linux/07:25
horrorStrucklooks like they officially decided to do the switch http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE2MDE07:39
horrorStruckby the way, what's the status of your systemd port frinnst? it's been already two weeks since you spoke to me about this project in pm07:43
frinnstwhat?!07:47
horrorStruckooops, i was not supposed to mention that here?07:47
frinnstlol? what?07:47
horrorStruck:D07:47
* Romster gets out the axe07:49
Romsterwho said what now :P07:49
Romsteri fear we are on a losing battle.07:49
horrorStruckbut we're not alone at least07:49
horrorStrucklet's hope ubuntu never gives up upstart so they may work on udev, LFS, gentoo are releuctant to this change, slack also i think07:52
jaegerI'm not too worried about it, honestly. mdev seems to do enough for my purposes and failing that, static /dev works fine07:52
horrorStruckyes you're right07:53
jaegerI'm sure udev will become unusable soon simply because it's abandoned07:54
jaegerbut I don't plan to switch to systemd :)07:54
horrorStruckthat's lennart most secret wet dream at least07:54
Romsteryeah but i'm concerned that other programs will require udev/systemd to function.07:55
Romstermy worst nightmare.07:55
horrorStruckisn't it the case for gnome already (not sure)?07:55
Romsteryeah and arch said they kicked out gnome and hoep systemd wouldn't be used for kde.07:56
Romsternow arch decides to go evil07:56
horrorStruckarch has died long time ago, i used to use (and like) it07:56
Romsterif arch is following upstream packages what's this symlink lib crap?07:57
Romsterand sbin bin...07:57
horrorStruckthe initscript guy is a lennart fanboi07:57
Romsterthey say one thing but do another.07:58
horrorStruckwhatever is posted on 0pointer.de gets implemented in days07:58
Romsterstatic dev seems fine, might have to redo all my hard disks tough as i got mdadm/lvm setup08:00
horrorStruckthey adapt their "values" to whatever they are doing.08:00
horrorStrucklove that quote from exherbo: "All design goals must be phrased in such a way that it is hard to use them as slogans to justify stupidity."08:00
Romsterheh08:01
horrorStruckexactly what arch is doing08:01
Romsterwhere doomed :D08:03
Romsterunless everyone revolts.08:03
horrorStrucksoon to be doomed08:03
jaegerHonestly I'm surprised udev hasn't been forked yet08:03
frinnstmost ppl seem to be cheering for systemd08:04
frinnsthorrorStruck I will probably have a look at creating a systemd port this weekend, just so find out exactly how it works :)08:04
Romsterthing is if we don't follow we'll be left behind and if we do follow we are another zealot.08:04
horrorStrucki dont even want to have a look at the software give the attitude of lennart, i hate this guy with passion08:04
Romster+108:05
horrorStrucks/give/given08:05
horrorStruckfrinnst: awesome thanks :D08:05
jaegerI wonder if evdev even builds without udev anymore08:06
horrorStrucki think not08:07
frinnsthttps://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/08:15
frinnstjaeger: nope08:15
jaegeryeah, I gave up on automounting in MATE because of udisks208:15
frinnstbefore the xorg merge the version we used did but romsters version did not08:15
horrorStruckso... should we blame Romster :P ?08:32
jaegerhe updated the ports, he didn't write the driver :P08:34
horrorStruckthanks for killing my vodka inspired best joke of the day :(08:36
horrorStruckjust curious, do we know the no of people who subscribed to crux ML?08:41
jaegerteK_ could find that info on the ML admin pages08:45
horrorStruckwould be interesting to know, teK_ if you dont mind. TIA08:46
frinnstoh great my dyndns hostname expired08:57
horrorStruckafraid.org is nice if i may09:03
Romsterheh09:04
Romsterprogress09:04
Romsterfrinnst, didn't you setup ddclient?09:05
frinnstI did, just forgot to run it for about a month09:06
frinnst..09:06
Romsterit should run automaticly every 25 days or sooner if ip changes09:06
Romsteradded to services array09:07
frinnstyeah if you start it09:07
frinnstbut i forgot to add it09:07
frinnstthus the fucker expired :)09:07
Romster-_-09:07
jaegerheh09:07
Romsterre-register it unless some one stole it.09:07
frinnstexpired earlier today09:07
frinnstnah, dont care09:07
frinnstjust broke obra.se temporarily09:07
horrorStruckbtw, xf86-input-evdev 2.7.3 has been released earlier this week09:24
Romsterwonder why that wasn't on my scan list09:28
Romsterbeen feeling too out of it i'm still feeling like crap.09:29
Romsterwhy am i not seeing the notifications i am on the ML09:33
Romsterthat fontforge email is a bit late -_-09:37
Romsterok my filters was messed up somehow.09:46
Romsteroh wait that's 2.8 from a merge.09:48
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teK_311 people for the general crux ML14:41
teK_jaeger: horrorStruck14:41
teK_and we have a 1337p337@... :>14:42
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jaegerso cool!14:45
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frinnstteK_: hmm, no dice with the server I set up?15:13
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frinnst=======> Building '/usr/ports/pkg/systemd#188-1.pkg.tar.xz' succeeded.15:29
frinnstI feel dirty15:29
jaegergo take a shower15:29
frinnstwow, It is really broken with a separate usr partition15:30
frinnstwhat the hell is wrong with these people?15:30
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teK_frinnst: will do the 1st sync tomorrow  because the machine with my crux-Keys is still not available15:34
rmullIs crux moving to systemd?16:40
frinnstno16:51
frinnstteK_: i tried ssh'ing from crux.nu to the machine I set up. seems the ports not open.16:52
frinnstAND I DIDNT CONFIGURE THE FIREWALL16:53
frinnstso dont blame me!16:53
teK_I'd never blame you17:15
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horrorStruckteK_: thanks for ML stats20:40
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