IRC Logs for #crux-devel Sunday, 2012-09-30

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juegood morning03:39
juejaeger: thanks03:40
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frinnstso, what's left for 2.8 (excluding testing etc..)?12:25
frinnstsyslinux needs to be patched12:25
frinnstdamn, I was hoping the bootstrap would fail after stage1 so I could boot up windows and play some ME3 :(12:35
Lukcfrinnst, is zip still in core?12:48
LukcAnd there is still my suggestion about tar/cpio/bsdtar. :312:49
frinnstyeah. the only thing stopping it is for someone to maintain it in opt13:08
frinnstI guess I could do it though13:09
frinnstbtw, whats your "objection" to tar? is it just that we ship two "similar" programs in core, or something else?13:09
LukcMainly that, yes. :’°13:13
LukcBut, I also feel GNU project often try to become standards.13:14
LukcAnd when it is possible to do without, I prefer suggesting it while it’s still possible. :313:14
frinnstwell, they *are*.. crux is a gnu/linux distribution :)13:14
Lukc’Could be called a glibc/Linux distribution.13:14
LukcWould be more precise…13:14
LukcGNU tar is *not* a standard.13:15
LukcWell, for some people it may be one… :313:16
LukcBut bsdtar does the same job very well.13:16
frinnstI dont think i've used a distro where it's not13:16
LukcProbably even better, considering the formats it supports and gtar does not.13:16
Lukcfrinnst, I did.13:16
LukcThough not for long.13:17
LukcBusybox’ tar was used.13:17
frinnstwhat distro was that? dsl? :)13:17
LukcI don’t remember the name, but it wasn’t designed to be used, if that’s the question. /o\13:18
Lukc(which is in part why I didn’t used it long)13:18
frinnstwell, one of the strengths of crux is how easy you can change something.. Building a distribution for more than one person you'll always have to make compromises. you can always modify stuff yourself (I hardly use a stock install :))13:20
frinnstAnd it would be nice to get 2.8 out the door pretty soon13:21
Lukcfrinnst, removing cpio and tar from core is no big deal. bsdtar already does the stuff and is already in core.13:21
LukcOnly two symlinks and a maintainer is required.13:23
frinnstwell, replacing tar could possibly cause issues. tbh Im not really that familiar with it and how compatible it is.13:23
Lukc*are13:24
Lukcfrinnst, it is possible for tar -t and tar -tv, which have different outputs on gtar and bsdtar.13:24
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jaegerjue: there's an rc1 (untested!) at http://crux.nu/files/pre-releases/ now16:58
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