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jue | a clear -1 for LTO from me, our compiler/toolchain should work as stable and predictable as possible IMO | 02:34 |
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jue | horrorStruck: nodevtmpfs seems sensible, but why notmpfs? | 02:52 |
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horrorStruck | jue: i guess it's because it's non-persistent but depending on what you put in there it could cause trouble | 03:29 |
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horrorStruck | jaeger: rebuilding glibc with libgd will create 2 more binaries memusage and memusagestat. i've been md5summing all files, they're all the same except .a archives so i guess it's safe to say that this is the only implication of libgd. | 07:37 |
horrorStruck | in conclusion, --without-gd is indeed the sanest default, sorry for the noise :) | 07:39 |
horrorStruck | ^ because i haven't thought about rebuilds on a live system but just was thinking about core | 07:42 |
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jaeger | no worries about the noise, it's always good to at least consider these things | 08:02 |
jaeger | if we never looked at changing things it would be pretty boring | 08:02 |
jaeger | Removing --with-tls seems fine, though | 08:11 |
horrorStruck | thanks for this very open minded way of seeing things :) CRUX is awesome for its design but being able to discuss so easily with its developers brings even more awesomeness | 08:11 |
horrorStruck | jaeger: --with-tls doesnt even exist anymore | 08:12 |
horrorStruck | jaeger: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=83cd14204559abbb52635006832eaf4d2f42514a | 08:12 |
jaeger | it's easier to check the configure script :) | 08:13 |
horrorStruck | well at least like this you have the context | 08:15 |
jaeger | yeah, it's just not always easy to find specific commits unless you know the subject or commit | 08:15 |
* horrorStruck is trying to find whatever excuse | 08:15 | |
jaeger | or get lucky with search terms | 08:15 |
horrorStruck | jaeger: especially when there's a typo in the commit like this one | 08:16 |
jaeger | yeah, that doesn't help | 08:16 |
jaeger | though I don't see the typo there | 08:16 |
horrorStruck | s/wth/with | 08:17 |
jaeger | ah ha! my font was small, missed that :) | 08:17 |
jaeger | jue: any other changes we need/want to make before I do another bootstrap? | 08:29 |
jue | jaeger: the binutils update and merging the changes from opt/xorg | 08:37 |
jaeger | ok | 08:38 |
jue | oh, forgot another thing | 08:40 |
jue | firefox: split xulrunner from firefox | 08:40 |
jaeger | again? :P | 08:41 |
jue | that one is from frinnst, added to todo30 | 08:41 |
teK__ | 2 | 08:42 |
jue | dunno why, but I guess it's related to thunderbird? | 08:43 |
jue | jaeger: I'm using binutils 2.23.1 since quite some time here on x86, no issues. But you should do the update for 3.0, because I don't have a x86_64 system here | 08:46 |
jue | not yet ;) | 08:46 |
jaeger | alright, I'll give it a try. anything unusual or just a version bump? | 08:46 |
jue | only the version bump | 08:47 |
jue | bbl | 08:49 |
frinnst | thunderbird, yeah | 08:59 |
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c0x | hi, who maintain ports/core-x86_64 ? | 10:11 |
horrorStruck | that would be frinnst_ i guess. anything x86_64 users should be aware of if i may ask? i just switched my laptop to 64bit this weekend (and it works beautifully so far) | 10:22 |
c0x | there is a long standing cosmetic typo in /ports/core-x86_64/filesystem/Pkgfile | 10:25 |
c0x | ln -s ../lib $PKG/lib64 | 10:26 |
c0x | I guess, it must be as "ln -s lib $PKG/lib64" | 10:26 |
c0x | so, link in / (root dir) shows lib64 -> lib not a typo lib64 -> ../lib | 10:28 |
frinnst | oopsie | 10:36 |
c0x | x86_64 works just fine for me for long time, and I prefer rebuilding all from ports in clean chrooted environment, now its time to go 2.7 -> 2.8 | 10:37 |
c0x | frinnst, thanks a lot ;) | 11:00 |
jaeger | jue: I'll use a bootstrap to test the new binutils, should be fairly thorough | 11:53 |
jaeger | no problems so far but it isn't done yet | 11:54 |
jue | jaeger: good, I've merged opt/xorg and added the 3.0 repos to our git-to-rsync stuff on crux.nu | 11:57 |
jaeger | good deal. you must have done those merges before I updated my trees since I got glib, mesa3d, etc. updates | 12:15 |
frinnst | yawn | 12:18 |
frinnst | looks like ive got some catching up to do | 12:18 |
frinnst | busy at work | 12:18 |
frinnst | is there a glibc-32 package somewhere? | 12:22 |
jue | frinnst: checkout the core 3.0 branch | 12:44 |
frinnst | but not buildable on a 64bit system, right? | 12:45 |
frinnst | i have the feeling i need a binary package for that one | 12:45 |
frinnst | :) | 12:45 |
jue | ah, sorry, ignored that you asked for a package and not for a port ;) | 12:46 |
frinnst | libpthreadstubs.. what an aweful package :) | 12:55 |
frinnst | I guess i'll have use for the fixed prt-get version :) | 12:55 |
frinnst | "rebuildall" | 12:56 |
jaeger | frinnst: yeah, it would be tough to build glibc-32 without a LOT of work on pure64 | 12:56 |
jaeger | well, probably impossible without a lot of work :) | 12:56 |
jaeger | or without upgrading packages from multilib | 12:56 |
frinnst | got a package? | 12:57 |
frinnst | i guess i could download the multilib iso but that seems wasteful :) | 12:57 |
jaeger | I could extract them and upload somewhere, I guess | 13:00 |
jaeger | http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/tmp/mltc/ | 13:01 |
frinnst | <3 | 13:13 |
frinnst | load average: 26.96, 20.64, 14.82 | 13:17 |
jaeger | heh | 13:19 |
frinnst | is libstdc++-compat still required? | 14:46 |
frinnst | i can never remember what required it | 14:46 |
jaeger | I don't think it is anymore but haven't eesearched that yet | 14:48 |
frinnst | i dont think i've ever used it, even on 32bit installs | 14:49 |
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jaeger | frinnst: so what was causing that load average earlier? | 17:55 |
jaeger | jue: no problems with the binutils bump, I'll push it soon | 17:55 |
jaeger | ok, that's pushed | 18:13 |
horrorStruck | jaeger: glibc-segfault_in_strncasecmp.patch is i686 only, couldn't it be dropped in 3.0? | 20:31 |
jaeger | for glibc, probably, might as well leave it in glibc-32. have any link to info about it? I read what was in it but it's sparse | 20:52 |
jaeger | it says i386 but doesn't say that it's not useful in x86-64 | 20:52 |
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