IRC Logs for #crux-devel Thursday, 2013-03-28

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sepenjue: ping02:47
sepenor jaeger or frinnst: I'm going to add Alan to our about page so seems we forgot that:
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juesepen: hi, good catch, thanks03:19
sepenI had an error on the list I pasted in my email, Alan is part of maintainers03:19
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jueyes, he is03:30
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jaegeroops, good catch05:27
Romsteri'm in the habit to use check-32-versions now.05:33
jaegerI was talking about Alan but that's a good habit anyway05:34
Romsteralso i while ago i got sqlite3-32 in line with it's configure options too.05:34
Romsteroh right :F05:34
Romsteri wasn't sure if Alan was active or not.05:34
jaegerHe hasn't been active in IRC in ages but he responds to emails05:34
Romsteris he ever on irc?05:34
teK_didn't answer my mail when I updated his kde stuff (gitwise)05:52
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sepenlast email I have from Alan is around month ago06:02
sepenhe's active for what I see in timeline webpage06:02
Romsterjust not on irc06:03
jaegerseems like pango and gdk-pixbuf are moving their cache files, anyone else verify this?06:50
jaegerpango, for example, seems to use /usr/lib/pango/1.8.0/modules.cache now instead of /usr/etc/pango/pango.modules06:51
jaegerI guess gdk-pixbuf is already fixed, never mind that07:03
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Romsterdon't all cache files belong in /var ?07:13
Romstermost of these ports don't put stuff where it should be.07:13
jaegerFeel free to suggest to the GTK authors that they adhere to CRUX standards :D07:14
jaegeror FHS or whatever07:14
jaegerIf we install the cache files for pango and gdk-pixbuf somewhere other than where the upstream expects then we have to set an environment variable to point to the new location for every shell07:15
Romstercan't these things use pkg-config or libtool to find there locations?07:16
Romsteras set at configure time.07:16
jaegerNo idea there07:16
Romsteri've not looked into it but really some stuff is done dumb.07:17
Romstercache files not in consistent paths for one.07:17
Romsterbetween various projects.07:17
Romsterls: cannot access /usr/lib/pango/1.8.0/modules.cache: No such file or directory07:18
Romstermaybe i need to sysup07:18
jaegeror run pango-querymodules --update-cache07:19
jaeger <-- for reference my version for mate07:20
jaegersepen: firefox-java-plugin gives me a footprint mismatch07:50
jaegerMISSING   lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ -> /usr/lib/java/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so07:50
jaegerNEW       lrwxrwxrwx      root/root       usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ -> /usr/lib/java/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so07:50
sepenjaeger: do you have jre or jdk installed08:32
sepenseems you have jre, I should build this port against jdk (cause I maintain jdk), my fault08:33
sepens/should build/built/08:35
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jaegersepen: ah, ok, makes sense10:06
jaegerwas gone but yes, jre10:06
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jaegermd3 : active raid10 sdp[13] sdo[12] sdn[11] sdm[10] sdl[9] sdk[8] sdj[7] sdi[6] sdh[5] sdg[4] sdf[3] sde[2] sdd[1] sdc[0] 1002667008 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [14/14] [UUUUUUUUUUUUUU] [>....................]  resync =  0.6% (6852928/1002667008) finish=81.5min speed=203406K/sec13:58
jaegerShould be fun14:01
frinnstwhat kind of drives?14:01
jaeger16 of those14:02
jaeger2 for the system, 14 for the RAID1014:02
frinnstah, 146gig 10k.. we have a shitload of those14:04
jaegerThey're not super special but that box is just sitting around so I'm going to play with it14:04
frinnstwe are buying a new netapp san in a couple of weeks14:05
jaeger <-- that thing14:05
jaegernice :)14:05
frinnstour old fas 2040 is getting really old and tired14:06
frinnstwill be nice to get the latest ontap. they sold nfs licenses separate for our old filer.. expensive as shit14:08
frinnstso we used iscsi :/14:08
jaegerdoh, that sucks14:08
frinnstwill be nice to get nfs for vmware14:08
jaegerI use NFS for all my vmware, so much easier14:08
jaegerI've been in NAS hell here lately, got 5 NAS devices currently14:09
jaegertrying to work that down to 314:09
jaeger2 of them will go away when we have data migrated, at least14:09
frinnstwe are also getting 10gbit switches *finally*14:10
jaegernice :)14:10
frinnstalso silly expensive for our blade infrastructure14:10
jaegerWhose switches do you use?14:10
frinnstits all hp14:10
frinnstciscos new servers look quite interesting14:11
frinnstwe had a sales rep over a few weeks ago14:11
jaegerhaven't looked at them, myself... the ucs blade stuff?14:11
frinnstvery modular14:12
frinnstbut we'll stick with our c7000 chassis for now14:13
jaegerI wouldn't mind investigating blade setups for our infrastructure but for now we're just buying 1U servers14:13
jaegerfortunately we're small, plenty of room at the moment14:13
frinnsthp will start to phase them out in two years or something14:13
frinnstyeah we are also quite small... blade is a bit overkill for us14:14
jaegerJust got a final quote for 4 more servers today for vmware, oracle x3-214:14
frinnstc7000 vs ucs14:14
frinnstwell nothing about ucs in that clip14:15
jaegeryeah, that was confusing, heh14:15
jaeger <-- there's an interesting one14:18
frinnstboy they look ugly14:19
jaegeryeah, a bit :)14:19
jaegerthat guy has the same cooling we do14:23
jaegerAPC InRow RD14:23
frinnstwe dont use any cooling at all :)14:24
jaegeryeah, I'm jealous of your setup, hehe14:24
frinnstyeah its pretty unique14:24
frinnstits wierd to having to use a heater in the office during summer :)14:24
jaegerI can only imagine14:25
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