IRC Logs for #crux-devel Thursday, 2013-04-04

Romsterglib-2.36.0 is out00:09
Romsteri need that for new webkit.00:09
frinnstoh. I'll look into it after work.01:58
Romstertrying to get webkit to compile this will be fun. needs newer gst stuff and other new libs too.02:02
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sepenteK_: s/python/llvm/ ;D03:03
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teK_yes03:03
sepenheheh03:03
sepenwas fun03:03
teK_late april fools' joke03:04
teK_btw.. did you revert my changes to the timeline script or is this thing still broken?03:07
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frinnstRomster: how did you notice harfuzz needed a rebuild after updating glib?11:42
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Romsterfrinnst, turns out i needed to recompile harfbuzz with icu support for webkit to compile. else it's mising a header file.14:00
frinnstah14:50
frinnstthought it was glib related14:50
frinnstso ill push it now then14:50
Romsterk17:22
darfoJust added FS#912 - dosbox Pkgfile missing glu dependency but18:00
darfonot sure if Alan is the right person to assign it to.18:00
Romsterfrinnst, glib requires libxslt for man pages.18:01
Romsterdarfo, look at emulators in portsdb too that's a newer build than the one in opt.18:02
Romsterneed to look into if the one in opt can be removed or unless alan is maintaining that still.18:03
darfoDon't really need dosbox myself, just testing clang/llvm against a bunch of ports18:03
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juegood morning23:18
jueRomster: it's not libxslt, you need docbook installed to get the man-pages23:19
jueeven though I'd call a bug in glib because the man-pages are already there, not need to rebuild them23:20
juefrinnst: I'd suggest to --disable-man23:23
juefrinnst: and possibly install the man-pages manually?23:24
Romsteroh hmm odd i installed libxsltin my chroot and man pages came up.23:24
Romsterwhy is everyone against generating the man pages?23:25
juechecking for DocBook XML DTD V4.1.2 in XML catalog... not found23:25
jueconfigure: error: DocBook DTD is required for --enable-man23:25
juewe are not against generating the man-pages, we are against docbook23:25
Romsteri guess i still had the files in /etc after removing docbook-xsl23:26
jueand for glib it's _not_ necessary to generate them, becasue they are already there23:26
Romsterok so what's wrong with docbook?23:26
juewe don't need it23:26
Romsterdoesn't make much of a valid point to quench my curiosity.23:27
Romsterbecause few packages ever use that? or the complexity or something else.23:28
juewell, I don't see why we add another dep to glib, just because the devs are too stupid to write a sensful configure.ac23:28
jueas I said two times above, the man-pages are already there, no need to rebuild them23:29
Romstermuch like help2man or other manaul generating ports. shoudl all them be nuked out of contrib opt?23:29
Romsteryeah i know glib man pages are already around.23:29
jueRomster: we are talking about glib, which is part of our ISO23:30
Romsteri'm talking in more general disable this disable that everywhere.23:30
Romsteroh right that rule must be on the iso.23:30
Romsterforgot that one.23:30
jueRomster: my point is:23:30
jue09:27 < jue> as I said two times above, the man-pages are already there, no need to rebuild them23:30
Romsterright right. i was thinking about in more general use. other ports seem to disable anything man page generated as well. but never mind my opinion/questions on more general manual generation. i guess i need to be more specific and clear on what i type as to what my thoughts are.23:32
Romsteri was wondering if it was in the best crux interestes to remove such gtk-doc docbook texlive help2man and anything else that generates man pages in general, even one in xorg repo got disabled at configure, despite it not failing to compile without documentation. http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/xorg.git;a=commitdiff;h=d97783aed924ab6358c034e3fb7abd463f65cc9723:36
jueRomster: I think it's not a big deal to install the glib man-pages manually, but we lived since 2.34 without them, so why bother?23:37
Romsterglib one has to be disabled as you stated.23:37
Romsteryeah not disagreeing on glib as it goes on the iso.23:37
Romstercan't understand why --without-asciidoc on xorg-inputproto though i can't think of any more examples currently.23:38
Romsteryou probably got stuff to do so i'll let you get back to work.23:39
juewell, you have to decide it by yourself, even though I myself would not maintain a port that depends on gtk-doc od docbook23:39
jues/od/or/23:40
jueRomster: wrt xorg-inputproto, IMO we should avoid optional deps whenever possible23:43
jueRomster: and we would remove the generated docs anyway, so I think a --disable-ascidoc is beter23:47
juebetter than a rm -rf23:47
Romsterk23:51

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