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jue | frinnst: guess you're running mesa 17.2.1 already? | 15:44 |
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frinnst | nope, i've been lagging behind :-) | 16:05 |
frinnst | 17.2.0 | 16:05 |
frinnst | 17.2.0 works great here for what its worth | 16:06 |
jue | ok | 16:23 |
jue | btw, seems I've "fixed" our timeline for core/opt commits, dunno if contrib works too | 16:25 |
jue | the "fix" was to remove all old records with event_type=git_commit_opt etc. | 16:27 |
jaeger | make it re-cache, basically? | 16:41 |
pedja | interested in trivial patch for pkgmk (unpack 7z compressed sources, too)? | 17:15 |
pedja | libarchive (which is at 3.3.2 now, btw) supports (extract only) 7zip archives since 3.0 | 17:17 |
jue | jaeger: yes | 17:19 |
jue | pedja: sure | 17:19 |
jue | hmm, why did we miss the libarchive update? will look at ck4up rules | 17:20 |
jue | the rule is ok, probably an overlook | 17:24 |
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pedja | jue, FS#1473 | 17:32 |
pedja | it's been a while since the last 'ship with PAM as default' idea | 17:37 |
frinnst | yeah I saw that one | 17:44 |
frinnst | i dont like pam, but yet i want the features | 17:44 |
frinnst | :-) | 17:44 |
frinnst | the current wayland implementation requires it at the moment | 17:44 |
pedja | the other one, about 'hardening', is interesting, too | 17:45 |
frinnst | im running glibc 2.26 with --enable-stack-protector=strong | 17:46 |
frinnst | but thats about it | 17:46 |
frinnst | ah and gcc --enable-default-pie --enable-default-ssp | 17:46 |
pedja | 7.2? | 17:46 |
frinnst | yeah | 17:47 |
pedja | well, Crux *could* go all the way, and ship with SELinux in enforcing mode :) | 17:50 |
pedja | that is, like, totally secure. mostly because nothing works | 17:50 |
jaeger | selinux isn't as bad as people like to make it sound, honestly | 17:51 |
jaeger | audit2allow is great | 17:51 |
pedja | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxjenQ31b70 | 17:51 |
jaeger | I wouldn't advocate adding it by default, though | 17:52 |
pedja | that talk cleared a lot of misconceptions I had about SELinux, tbh | 17:53 |
jaeger | I'll have to watch it, I've heard it mentioned before | 17:53 |
pedja | never used it, thou, only AppArmor on openSUSE | 17:54 |
pedja | I get why users switch it off (they can't be bothered with it). but admins? | 17:57 |
pedja | but I guess most times everyone is breathing their neck (manglement, developers, users) :) | 18:00 |
pedja | down their necks*, obviously | 18:02 |
frinnst | I dont think selinux really would be that useful on crux :-) | 18:13 |
pedja | the ultimate hardening ( you are right, of course, it would be insane ) | 18:20 |
pedja | the problem I have with suggestions like that is that, in most cases, after 'I'd like to have foo' there is no 'and how can I help?' | 18:24 |
pedja | or 'and here is what has to be done to achieve it/have it' | 18:27 |
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