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| tnut | Morning | 08:30 |
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| Romster | evening then quits :D | 10:04 |
| Romster | you don't remember yesterday where you broke stuff with libffi frinnst :D | 10:05 |
| Romster | i've held off on libffi still | 10:06 |
| Romster | works been to busy and i haven't looked at glslang yet | 10:06 |
| frinnst | sure I do. I sent out a big fat warning too | 10:14 |
| crash_ | yeah i noticed that warning :) | 12:01 |
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| jaeger | same | 17:46 |
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| ryuo | jaeger: thoughts on the proposed DB format? it seems the easiest way to extend the existing one. | 19:04 |
| ryuo | though i'd need to use a new name for it. | 19:05 |
| ryuo | something like dbe or something. | 19:05 |
| ryuo | data base extended | 19:05 |
| pedja | dbng :) | 19:05 |
| ryuo | lol | 19:05 |
| ryuo | i was thinking of making this a hybrid of the debian approach and crux approach/ | 19:06 |
| ryuo | debian's approach allows a lot of flexibility so that's probably why it's still in use 20 years later. | 19:06 |
| pedja | debian packaging looks weird to me, tbh :) | 19:07 |
| pedja | never actually *used* IT, thou, so | 19:08 |
| pedja | plan to add metadata, too? | 19:09 |
| pedja | I know json is the new coolness, but how about yaml? looks more readable/easier to use to me | 19:11 |
| jaeger | I don't have a strong feeling about it. IT would be easy to use | 19:14 |
| pedja | afaik, when AWS CloudFormation added yaml support, there was much rejoicing :) | 19:21 |
| pedja | jaeger, plan to buy some new toys on Black Friday? | 19:25 |
| pedja | here, most of the BF-like deals are kind of crap, so people will go abroad :) | 19:27 |
| pedja | and local customs are well prepared to take their share... | 19:28 |
| pedja | sorry, OT | 19:29 |
| ryuo | jaeger: ok. i'll give it a try at some point. | 19:30 |
| ryuo | pedja: well, i'm trying to keep from adding a ton of dependencies to pkgutils. | 19:30 |
| ryuo | the DB is mostly automatically generated. | 19:31 |
| pedja | from the contents of Pkgfile or some new .metadata file? | 19:32 |
| ryuo | pedja: neither. all the metadata is extracted from the package's file name and contents. | 19:34 |
| pedja | ah, OK | 19:34 |
| ryuo | i'm proposing to expand what the db can hold for now. | 19:34 |
| ryuo | and worry about adding to it later. | 19:34 |
| ryuo | named fields makes it possible to extend it indefinitely. | 19:35 |
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| ryuo | currently they're purely positional so expanding is pretty much impossible. | 19:35 |
| pedja | MVP first, in modern talk :) | 19:35 |
| ryuo | i was considering adding some extra fields to it that are free, mostly install times and such. | 19:36 |
| ryuo | that can be provied by calls to the system clock. | 19:36 |
| ryuo | indeed. i have a pretty good idea of what i'm going to do now. | 19:37 |
| ryuo | i'm planning to stop using printf when i can afford to do so. the overhead of using it in performance critical areas is high. | 19:38 |
| pedja | can reverse deps be inferred that way? from the generated metadata? | 19:45 |
| pedja | I know there is revdep, obviously | 19:47 |
| pedja | but that always looked to me as a brute-force approach, out of necessity. | 19:49 |
| ryuo | pedja: not really? revdep is only for finding missing libraries. | 20:40 |
| jaeger | pedja: no plans to. I just got a new desk and usually black friday sucks for PC stuff | 21:10 |
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