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| cptn | hey | 01:15 |
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| CaptLloyd | hey | 01:19 |
| CaptLloyd | you're the maintainer of the crux usermap? | 01:20 |
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| cptn | well, maintainer is probably the wrong word, but I can edit it, yes :-) | 01:20 |
| CaptLloyd | hehe | 01:20 |
| CaptLloyd | Well I would like to be added, do you have a form or is there a place I should email you? | 01:21 |
| cptn | I prefer mail | 01:21 |
| cptn | jw@smts.ch | 01:21 |
| CaptLloyd | Thank-you | 01:22 |
| cptn | thanks for participating | 01:23 |
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| mavrick61 | Hi all | 02:23 |
| maro | hey mavrick61 :) | 02:24 |
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| CaptLloyd | AfterDeath, It is kinda slow in here most of the time | 02:29 |
| CaptLloyd | great group though | 02:29 |
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| hermit | http://fileserver2.jpghosting.com/images/davinF_61478092e4bd3585cda0ee7f69168e28.jpg | 02:42 |
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| richi_aut | hi, is it possible, to write a email to: core-ports at crux dot nu ? | 04:56 |
| richi_aut | otherwise i would make a new bug, that there is a new version of freetype available. | 04:57 |
| ningo | ok guys, talk's over, I buy crux.nu for $86,400.00 | 04:59 |
| cptn | richi_aut: you can send mail to that address, however a bug report is preferred | 05:00 |
| ningo | http://www.leapfish.com/analyze.php?url=crux.nu | 05:00 |
| richi_aut | cptn: ok, and the url for imagemagick is brocken, but that was already posted on the maillist. | 05:01 |
| richi_aut | s/brocken/broken | 05:02 |
| cptn | same there, the posted should have reported it either directly or via ML | 05:03 |
| cptn | s/posted/poster/ | 05:03 |
| cptn | but I'm sure Simone saw it | 05:03 |
| cptn | richi_aut: is it binary compatible with the previous version? | 05:04 |
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| richi_aut | cptn: freetype? i got no idea... | 05:06 |
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| cptn | from the footprint missmatch it looks like it'll likely break applications | 05:07 |
| cptn | including our current ports for fontconfig, KDE, sdl_ttf, xpdf | 05:11 |
| richi_aut | cptn: I'm not a C/C++ programmer, but i think this: "Version 2.2 no longer exposes its internals, this is, the header files located in the `include/freetype/internal' directory of the source package are not copied anymore by the `make install' command. Consequently, a number of rogue clients which directly access FreeType's internal functions and structures won't compile without modification." . maybe will | 05:11 |
| tilman | oy | 05:14 |
| rxi | vey | 05:18 |
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| tilman | dang, how do you force prt-get to reinstall a port? | 05:43 |
| tilman | prt-get install -fr -fi foo doesn't work | 05:43 |
| prologic | prt-get update <port> -fr | 05:44 |
| prologic | cptn, am I allowed to reply to crux-devel :) ? | 05:44 |
| tilman | oh | 05:44 |
| tilman | i guess that makes some sense | 05:44 |
| prologic | :) | 05:45 |
| treach | tilman: make a function for it. ;) "sudo prt-get update -fr $1;" | 05:45 |
| treach | I had to look it up, since I never call prt-get anymore. :P | 05:46 |
| tilman | treach: no, that's okay. i just thought it should work with the 'install' cmd, not 'update' | 05:46 |
| treach | ok | 05:46 |
| prologic | install will only work for non-installed ports | 05:46 |
| treach | obviously. | 05:46 |
| tilman | obviously it's not so obvious if i didn't get it | 05:46 |
| treach | I guess it depends on how you think about stuff. | 05:47 |
| tilman | update is also only an update if the currently installed version doesn't equal the one you're about to install | 05:47 |
| tilman | treach: exactly :p | 05:47 |
| treach | well, imo, if you are changing something it's an update. | 05:48 |
| tilman | ok | 05:48 |
| tilman | i think install -fr -fu should work, too, though | 05:48 |
| tilman | :D | 05:48 |
| treach | haha | 05:48 |
| tilman | fontconfig indeed doesn't build with freetype 2.2 | 05:48 |
| tilman | evas and xorg-libxft do | 05:48 |
| treach | gah, are we facing another prt-get update -fr $bloody_everything? | 05:50 |
| tilman | prologic: don't mess up your reply-to headers when you reply to mailing list postings. kthx | 05:51 |
| prologic | eh ? | 05:52 |
| tilman | prologic: n/m | 05:52 |
| prologic | :) | 05:52 |
| tilman | just noticed that it's not a reply :] | 05:52 |
| tilman | though his original mail did get through | 05:52 |
| prologic | eh ? | 05:53 |
| prologic | 'm so confused :) | 05:53 |
| prologic | I was asking if I could reply to crux-devel list! | 05:53 |
| prologic | I"m not officially considered a dev though, but I wouldn't mind putting my 2c worth in | 05:53 |
| treach | ha, I though you had discovered that you had posted another src-dir in a port. :P | 05:53 |
| tilman | simple to turn back where Simone Rota's email address is unstandable, likw what | 05:53 |
| tilman | uses underscores, dots etc before the @ char? | 05:53 |
| tilman | is he retarded? | 05:54 |
| prologic | treach, shoosh :) | 05:54 |
| treach | ;) | 05:54 |
| tilman | prologic: i'm talking about the Danny mails on the crux ml | 05:54 |
| prologic | oh | 05:54 |
| prologic | hmm no idea about that too | 05:54 |
| prologic | all I know is he was posting to crux@crux.nu | 05:54 |
| tilman | you are james mills, right? | 05:54 |
| tilman | ;) | 05:54 |
| tilman | prologic: yes, and that address is still active | 05:55 |
| tilman | as cptn wrote in his announcement mail :) | 05:55 |
| prologic | ahh yeah | 05:55 |
| prologic | but won't be for long | 05:55 |
| tilman | fontconfig 2.3.95 (2.4.0-rc1) works | 05:55 |
| treach | prologic: the problem is if everyone does that it could be quite noisy. Also presumeably it defeats the purpose of a seperate list.. | 05:55 |
| tilman | prologic: very good excuse | 05:55 |
| * tilman goes bananas | 05:55 | |
| prologic | lol | 05:55 |
| prologic | I"m lost | 05:55 |
| prologic | I'll just go eat dinner now | 05:55 |
| prologic | k :) | 05:55 |
| * prologic adds @crux.nu in his procmail filter | 05:56 | |
| tilman | if it's too hard for romster and you to handle 'both' mailing lists until the transition phase is over, that's not the problem of the rest of us | 05:56 |
| * treach adds prologic in his baynesian ;) | 05:56 | |
| tilman | so please don't duplicate mails | 05:56 |
| tilman | :) | 05:56 |
| prologic | okay! | 05:56 |
| prologic | yeesh :) | 05:56 |
| prologic | that's why I didn't do it to the 2nd one | 05:57 |
| prologic | I thought the first wouldn't have reached the list, but then I realized it had | 05:57 |
| tilman | and yes, feel free to mail to crux-devel | 05:57 |
| tilman | everyone else does it | 05:57 |
| prologic | heh | 05:57 |
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| cptn | tilman: as tilman say, you can certainly mail to crux-devel | 06:19 |
| cptn | although no recent mail actually called for discussion or input | 06:19 |
| cptn | tilman: install / update works just the same as with pkgadd/pkgadd -u | 06:20 |
| tilman | that's a good argument | 06:20 |
| treach | xpdf: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 06:21 |
| treach | :/ | 06:21 |
| tilman | is that motif? | 06:21 |
| cptn | yeah | 06:21 |
| treach | lesstif actually. | 06:21 |
| cptn | err | 06:21 |
| tilman | so lesstif should provide it | 06:21 |
| cptn | prologic: as tilman say, you can certainly mail to crux-devel | 06:21 |
| cptn | it does on my system... | 06:22 |
| tilman | o_O | 06:22 |
| tilman | yes, just checked the footprint | 06:22 |
| cptn | openmotif has .so.3 though | 06:22 |
| treach | hmm. some funkyness there. I got it working now. | 06:22 |
| tilman | i'm off the hook \o/ | 06:23 |
| treach | but lesstif is a bit of a bitch.. it insists on putting stuff in /usr/X11R6. :/ | 06:23 |
| tilman | even though host.def says ProjectRoot /usr? | 06:24 |
| tilman | you might want to put that ProjectRoot line in lesstif's own host.def | 06:24 |
| treach | wtf.. | 06:26 |
| treach | /usr/lib/X11/config/host.def is *empty* ?? | 06:27 |
| tilman | oh, seems site.def is the one to use | 06:28 |
| treach | tilman: the /usr/lib/X11/config/site.def ProjectRoot says /usr so I guess Lesstif overrules it in it's on config. | 06:30 |
| treach | s on/own. | 06:30 |
| tilman | yes | 06:31 |
| tilman | :) | 06:31 |
| treach | oh, marvellous. | 06:31 |
| treach | thanks for the pointer. | 06:31 |
| tilman | well, it's just a guess | 06:32 |
| tilman | but a good one i think ;D | 06:32 |
| treach | it's a place to start looking. :) | 06:32 |
| treach | yay.. "MotifProjectRoot" | 06:34 |
| treach | hacks coming back to bite ya.. | 06:36 |
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| Seneca | I have problems installing scrollkeeper on crux 2.2 | 06:38 |
| Seneca | "DocBook XML DTD... configure: error: not found" | 06:38 |
| Seneca | but I have docbook-xml-dtd installed | 06:38 |
| Seneca | "ensure that it is registered in /etc/xml/catalog" | 06:39 |
| treach | post-installscripts run? | 06:39 |
| treach | (gnome is such a hack..) | 06:39 |
| Seneca | nope, saw that now... *idiot* | 06:40 |
| Seneca | it works not | 06:40 |
| Seneca | now*** | 06:40 |
| Seneca | :P | 06:40 |
| treach | heh | 06:40 |
| Seneca | thz for the tip | 06:41 |
| Seneca | thx* | 06:41 |
| treach | np | 06:41 |
| lutin_triste | im wondering ... do you get Security Advisories in crux? like in slackware | 06:49 |
| maro | lutin_triste: yes | 06:49 |
| maro | on the ml | 06:49 |
| lutin_triste | k | 06:49 |
| treach | grr, anyone having any successes with trying to get files from fdo? | 06:50 |
| tilman | annarchy (xorg.fd.o/wiki.x.o, webcvs, anoncvs, anonsvn, et al) down | 06:51 |
| tilman | (#xorg-devel topic) | 06:51 |
| treach | :-/ | 06:52 |
| tilman | what do you need? | 06:52 |
| treach | xbitmaps-1.0.1.tar.bz2 | 06:56 |
| cptn | http://mirror.sg.depaul.edu/pub/x.org/individual/data/xbitmaps-1.0.1.tar.bz2 | 06:57 |
| treach | ta. :) | 06:57 |
| cptn | np :-) | 06:59 |
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| treach | note to tilman.org users: openmotif is probably a better alternative than lesstif, if need of such arcane stuff should arise. | 07:07 |
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| jdolan_ | i <3 boys | 08:54 |
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| rxi | little boys or big boys :P | 08:56 |
| ningo | little indian boys | 08:56 |
| jdolan_ | hehe.. | 08:57 |
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| j^2 | hey all | 09:18 |
| rxi | sup j^2 | 09:19 |
| jjpk | 'lo. | 09:19 |
| j^2 | hey guys | 09:20 |
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| hermit | This is wierd... | 09:46 |
| hermit | I unsubscribed from the crux mls a few months ago, yet I have recently been receiving emails again. | 09:47 |
| hermit | Was there a restore done on the server from backups or something which would have put me back on? | 09:47 |
| cptn | well, yes | 09:47 |
| hermit | ah | 09:47 |
| cptn | we've moved to a different server | 09:47 |
| cptn | and imported the subscriber list | 09:47 |
| jaeger | which we only had a snapshot of | 09:47 |
| hermit | ok | 09:47 |
| hermit | I requested an unsub a few days ago and got no message from the list to confirm. | 09:48 |
| cptn | the snapshot was from end of march IIRC | 09:48 |
| hermit | Is that known to be broken? | 09:48 |
| hermit | cptn: that explains it | 09:48 |
| cptn | mmmh, that shouldn't be | 09:48 |
| cptn | where did you send it to? | 09:49 |
| hermit | used the web admin | 09:49 |
| hermit | ah | 09:54 |
| hermit | i had it send me a password reminder and then unsubbed and I think we're good now | 09:55 |
| cptn | good | 09:55 |
| cptn | may I ask why you unsubscribed? | 09:56 |
| hermit | I don't really have any need to be on the list, nothing that comes up is of much interest to me as I am not maintaining or anything. | 09:57 |
| hermit | And everything in 2.2 is working really well, so.. | 09:58 |
| cptn | okay :-) | 09:58 |
| hermit | I replaced my crux laptop with a macbook, so I use crux only at home now | 09:58 |
| hermit | And yes, kids, osx win | 10:00 |
| tilman | that's awesome | 10:00 |
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| prologic | what makes osx so great neways ? :) | 10:10 |
| prologic | <-- never used macs before :) | 10:10 |
| koefz | No one really knows. | 10:10 |
| koefz | But the cases match people damned IPods. | 10:11 |
| hermit | Well, I don't want to start a heated debate, but it's just really well put together. | 10:11 |
| hermit | Everything really "Just Works" | 10:11 |
| koefz | *people's | 10:11 |
| koefz | Or is it peoples'? | 10:11 |
| hermit | The UI is very responsive | 10:11 |
| hermit | Peoples' | 10:11 |
| hermit | And Apple is well reputed for designing very good interfaces in terms of usability and esthetics. | 10:12 |
| koefz | Ok. | 10:12 |
| hermit | And I am seeing that's very correct. | 10:12 |
| hermit | There are drawbacks, but they are few. | 10:12 |
| hermit | I could very easily live purely with OSX. | 10:12 |
| hermit | I have apache, php, vim7, everything I need on here. | 10:12 |
| prologic | didn't MS steal their gui ideas from Apple anyway / :) | 10:12 |
| hermit | But for instance, wmv playback has not been ported to intel procs yet, so if I want to play wmv porn it has to run under rosetta (PPC emulation) which, while it works, is frustratingly slow. | 10:13 |
| hermit | But that will be resolved in short time. | 10:13 |
| hermit | Also, Adobe hasn't ported their apps yet either. | 10:13 |
| hermit | But since I only use photoshop recreationally, it's OK by me. | 10:13 |
| hermit | Again, that will be resolved probably by the new year. | 10:13 |
| hermit | I installed a package management dealy called fink which is an implementation of debian apt on OSX. | 10:14 |
| hermit | So I have irssi, wget, all those nice little linux tools. | 10:14 |
| hermit | mutt, if you want it. | 10:14 |
| hermit | Also, OSX comes with an X11 package as well. | 10:15 |
| hermit | So for instance, I can run freeciv (gtk2) right inside osx | 10:15 |
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| hermit | And that does not depend on stuff like fink, that's just out of the box. | 10:16 |
| prologic | sounds like you like your Mac :) | 10:16 |
| hermit | The real advantage to apples comes in the marriage of the hardware and the software. | 10:16 |
| hermit | Since apple makes the software and the hardware, they only need to make a perfect compatibility between those two | 10:16 |
| hermit | it's a nice change from what I have been used to over the years | 10:17 |
| hermit | researching motherboards to see which chipsets have stable linux drivers for components etc | 10:17 |
| hermit | I still use linux on my shuttle at home primarily because nothing touchest mplayer for its filetype support, among other things. | 10:18 |
| hermit | touches* | 10:18 |
| cnuke | mac os x is still slower as it could be | 10:18 |
| hermit | cnuke: then you likely haven't used recent versions on recent machines | 10:18 |
| cnuke | old ibook g4 :) | 10:18 |
| hermit | That would have been true a year ago | 10:18 |
| hermit | exactly | 10:18 |
| hermit | tiger has come a long way | 10:19 |
| cnuke | mac os x is per design slow, thats all | 10:19 |
| hermit | not to mention the fact that the new core duos smoke old g4s | 10:19 |
| hermit | http://digg.com/science/264_Hours_Without_Sleep | 10:19 |
| cnuke | took a long time until x86 beats ppc ;) | 10:19 |
| jaeger | we have a dual 2.7GHz G5 here at work which feels slow to me... but it's all rendering slowdown, not cpu, it seems | 10:29 |
| jaeger | don't have an intel mac yet, looking forward to getting one | 10:29 |
| hermit | You mean video? | 10:31 |
| jaeger | I mean everything. the entire interface feels extremely sluggish to me | 10:32 |
| jaeger | for a dual 2.7, at least | 10:32 |
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| hermit | jaeger: that's bizarre. | 10:47 |
| hermit | Must be something up there. | 10:47 |
| hermit | Maybe short on the ram? | 10:47 |
| hermit | And lots of crazy shit started on boot? | 10:47 |
| hermit | I understand OSX likes its ram. | 10:48 |
| hermit | Which is why I run 1.5Gb in my laptop. | 10:48 |
| jaeger | it's got 2G and not much running | 10:49 |
| jaeger | and I should stress that most people probably wouldn't notice it | 10:49 |
| jaeger | but it's enough that it bothers me :/ | 10:50 |
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| hermit | jaeger: yeah it would sure bother me if a system like that wasn't lightning fast. | 10:57 |
| hermit | I dunno, man. This thing blazes. | 10:57 |
| hermit | I guess it's just that PPC garbage. :) | 10:57 |
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| jaeger | hermit: I suspect so | 11:05 |
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| jaeger | hermit: a coworker is getting an intel mac soon so I will have a comparison :) | 11:06 |
| hermit | yay | 11:07 |
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| danm | hi | 12:13 |
| jjpk | hi danm. | 12:14 |
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| cnuke | hermit: mac os x is like solaris | 14:01 |
| cnuke | it is slow. but is in almost the same manner slow if it is on full load | 14:03 |
| koefz | Sort of like a big fat V8 truck then. | 14:04 |
| cnuke | kind of yes :) | 14:04 |
| koefz | Doesn't matter if it's empty or loaded with 2 tons of shit, still has the same 0-60 times. | 14:05 |
| koefz | =) | 14:05 |
| cnuke | heh | 14:05 |
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| j^2 | *sigh* starting up classes again next monday | 14:57 |
| jjpk | :/ | 14:57 |
| j^2 | last week of freedomn | 14:58 |
| aon | *sigh* ending classes for 2 months | 14:59 |
| jjpk | Two more weeks of marketing left, then I have about three weeks of vacation. | 14:59 |
| jjpk | Then its no mercy until December again. | 15:00 |
| aon | :/ | 15:00 |
| aon | i have free 'til 16.9. | 15:00 |
| aon | then to work | 15:00 |
| jjpk | At least by this time next year it will all stop. | 15:00 |
| j^2 | i love/hate being a student | 15:00 |
| aon | uh, what? | 15:00 |
| aon | 19.6. i mean | 15:00 |
| jjpk | Hehe. | 15:00 |
| jjpk | Nice long vacation I thought. :p | 15:01 |
| aon | hehe | 15:01 |
| jjpk | Still hard to believe I have been studying 9 months at the university level. | 15:02 |
| jjpk | Time just went by really quickly. | 15:02 |
| j^2 | crazy ass europeans...is that september 19? or some month that us americans don't have :> :P | 15:03 |
| jjpk | :D :D | 15:03 |
| aon | :D | 15:03 |
| j^2 | :D | 15:03 |
| aon | no, 19.6. is in june | 15:03 |
| j^2 | oh | 15:03 |
| aon | :D | 15:03 |
| j^2 | crap | 15:03 |
| tilman | crazy ass us americans | 15:03 |
| jjpk | rofl | 15:04 |
| j^2 | i'm not very well edumacted | 15:04 |
| aon | you don't know months? :p | 15:04 |
| tilman | 2006-06-19 yay for no ambiguity | 15:04 |
| j^2 | seems... | 15:04 |
| aon | yeah, that's probably rather low even for american educational standards | 15:04 |
| aon | tilman: yeah | 15:04 |
| j^2 | aon: so so true | 15:04 |
| aon | but some use DD.MM.YY and some use MM.DD.YY | 15:05 |
| aon | how do you tell when day <= 12 :) | 15:05 |
| j^2 | good question ;) | 15:05 |
| tilman | there's only one possible meaning of 2006-06-19 | 15:05 |
| aon | yes | 15:05 |
| tilman | iso 8601 or something ;) | 15:06 |
| jjpk | Thought they passed yet another directive regarding the date standard. | 15:06 |
| jjpk | Whatever the case, it has not visibly changed around here. | 15:06 |
| aon | yeah, and that's good | 15:06 |
| aon | since DD.MM.YY(YY) is right(tm) :) | 15:07 |
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| jjpk | ;) | 15:07 |
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| j^2 | @google lucky jagerbomb | 15:11 |
| clb | j^2: http://www.drinknation.com/drink/Jager-Bomb | 15:11 |
| aon | nice | 15:12 |
| j^2 | @google lucky jaegerbomb | 15:12 |
| clb | j^2: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jaegerbomb | 15:12 |
| j^2 | ;) | 15:12 |
| j^2 | @google lucky jaeger bomb | 15:12 |
| tilman | that's just "jaegermeister red bull" in germany | 15:12 |
| clb | j^2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagermeister | 15:12 |
| j^2 | yep same here | 15:13 |
| tilman | crazy ass us americans and their names for boring drinks | 15:13 |
| tilman | ;P | 15:13 |
| aon | @google lucky ethanol and orange juice | 15:13 |
| jjpk | :D :D | 15:13 |
| clb | aon: http://www.dailyfutures.com/softs/ | 15:13 |
| j^2 | hahahaaaahahah | 15:13 |
| aon | :/ | 15:13 |
| jjpk | A redbull vodka is good. | 15:13 |
| aon | yep | 15:13 |
| jjpk | Too bad you quickly lose count, and then things start to happen. :p | 15:13 |
| aon | or whatever energy drink is available :) | 15:13 |
| aon | and after that, things stop happening :) | 15:14 |
| jjpk | Indeed, you hit a wall, and then it goes worse from there. | 15:14 |
| tilman | the bad thing about energy drink mixes is that you don't taste the amount of alcohol they have | 15:14 |
| laod | why would you ruin perfectly good alcohol :( | 15:14 |
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| jjpk | Trying to keep a draconian grip on drinking, especially starting on june. | 15:14 |
| danL | hey what i need in kernel configuration to enable sata ? | 15:15 |
| aon | tilman: yes, vodka is clearly intended to be consumed straight from the bottle, preferably outside when it's -20°C | 15:15 |
| aon | (or less) | 15:15 |
| tilman | i'll try that when i'm visiting funland | 15:15 |
| jjpk | funland. :D :D | 15:16 |
| tilman | i don't think we had -20C last winter | 15:16 |
| tilman | -15C maybe | 15:16 |
| laod | danL: it's in the SCSI subsection, I believe. You just pick the appropriate low level driver for your sata controller | 15:16 |
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| aon | you seemed to have mosquitoes (or at least one) in october :) | 15:16 |
| jjpk | The worst it got here was -30 for one week, then another two weeks ranging -25 and -18. | 15:16 |
| aon | the bite is still visible :/ | 15:16 |
| tilman | hehe | 15:17 |
| aon | hm, gotta sleep so i have enough energy to set sail for the last schoolday tomorrow :) | 15:18 |
| jjpk | \o/ | 15:19 |
| tilman | can't you just sleep through it? | 15:19 |
| tilman | you could bring a pillow | 15:19 |
| aon | it's just like 2h, such short sleep is annoying :/ | 15:19 |
| tilman | haha | 15:20 |
| jjpk | Decent philosophy I'd say. :p | 15:21 |
| jjpk | Might as well call it a day, still have some reading left for tomorrow. | 15:24 |
| jjpk | Marketing theory... how interesting can it get? :D | 15:24 |
| * tilman falls asleep as he reads the words | 15:24 | |
| aon | yeah, i also have to participate in some ceremony and sleeping wouldn't probably make a good impression | 15:25 |
| aon | but <- | 15:25 |
| jjpk | Exactly... I don't feel like reading them, but the fact that the prof has a pop quiz policy. | 15:25 |
| jjpk | Still hasn't used it, maybe tomorrow it will happen. bugger. :/ | 15:26 |
| jjpk | aon: g'night. | 15:26 |
| tilman | night | 15:27 |
| lutin_triste | someone know what is ahci sata ? and if it needed | 15:28 |
| strw | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHCI | 15:31 |
| strw | lspci -v | grep AHCI | 15:31 |
| lutin_triste | yea i guess i dont need it | 15:32 |
| strw | if you're unsure, compile it as a module | 15:33 |
| lutin_triste | im wondering if bsd process accounting is needed for a desktop system ? | 15:39 |
| CaptLloyd | no | 15:40 |
| CaptLloyd | Certainly could be used for some things | 15:40 |
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| CaptLloyd | any of you recently install the xmms2 package from contrib? | 15:46 |
| lutin_triste | is it important to enable plug and play support in kernel configuration ? | 15:47 |
| CaptLloyd | I haven't tried with it off | 15:47 |
| CaptLloyd | I think you might need it unless your bios is set for PnP OS = no, but I may not be correct | 15:48 |
| CaptLloyd | assuming you're on an x86 arch | 15:48 |
| lutin_triste | k thx¸< | 15:59 |
| tilman | CaptLloyd: no, what's wrong with it? | 16:00 |
| j^2 | why is it the press always gets the _craziest_ person to talk about something...like look at cnn.com right now, that woman looks like she hasnt showered in a week! | 16:00 |
| lutin_triste | if you have a /boot partition do you need to copy the kernel there instead of / | 16:01 |
| CaptLloyd | I get footprint mismatches | 16:03 |
| CaptLloyd | I might email the maintainer | 16:03 |
| CaptLloyd | but I'm gonna mess with it some more first | 16:03 |
| j^2 | CaptLloyd: what port? | 16:03 |
| tilman | what's missing? | 16:04 |
| tilman | prolly just some plugin | 16:04 |
| j^2 | yep | 16:04 |
| j^2 | like good ol' xmms | 16:04 |
| CaptLloyd | I'll get you the error in a sec | 16:04 |
| CaptLloyd | A bunch of stuff for ruby | 16:04 |
| CaptLloyd | smb and vorbis looks like plugins | 16:05 |
| CaptLloyd | sdl-vis | 16:05 |
| j^2 | you can always pkgmk -f *#* it | 16:05 |
| lutin_triste | well i can put anywhere i want right (vmlinuz) ? i just need to setup lilo.conf correctly | 16:05 |
| j^2 | lutin_triste: correct | 16:06 |
| tilman | CaptLloyd: nothing serious | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | yeah | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | Would really like vorbis tho | 16:06 |
| lutin_triste | kk | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | Hmm | 16:06 |
| tilman | prt-get install libvorbis | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | Oh, well | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | ahh | 16:06 |
| CaptLloyd | I'll do that first | 16:06 |
| tilman | the mad plugin handles mp3, so you'll prolly want that too :D | 16:07 |
| CaptLloyd | I've never used xmms2 it a lot different from xmms? | 16:07 |
| tilman | yes | 16:07 |
| CaptLloyd | what packages do I need for mad? | 16:09 |
| CaptLloyd | I have something called libmad but I don't know if that is it | 16:10 |
| tilman | it is | 16:11 |
| CaptLloyd | thanks :) | 16:12 |
| CaptLloyd | do you know what libxmms_smb would do if I had it? I can't find any info on what it does on google | 16:13 |
| tilman | allows you to access files that are published via a samba share | 16:14 |
| tilman | or a real ms network thingy | 16:14 |
| CaptLloyd | ahh | 16:14 |
| CaptLloyd | I can get by without that | 16:14 |
| CaptLloyd | captain@Cruxtop ~$ xmms2 | 16:16 |
| CaptLloyd | ERROR: Could not create default configfile!! | 16:16 |
| CaptLloyd | heh | 16:16 |
| tilman | check the wiki for how to get started | 16:17 |
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| CaptLloyd | Got it working | 16:34 |
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| lutin_triste | for some reason sendmail take alot of time to start at boot time... any place i should look to fix this ? | 18:01 |
| jaeger | perhaps /etc/hosts | 18:03 |
| lutin_triste | kk | 18:03 |
| jaeger | if sendmail can't resolve your hostname, it'll hang like that | 18:04 |
| jaeger | it might be something else but that's my guess | 18:04 |
| lutin_triste | nah i changed it to localhost and it okay now | 18:07 |
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| treach | hmm, some things really doesn't make sense.. why would you want to write to /dev/zero?? | 18:37 |
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| bd2 | treach, it must be filled with zeros prior to using it :D | 18:55 |
| treach | lol. better put that in the handbook :p | 18:56 |
| bd2 | "I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any more (May 2006)." (c) http://www.tug.org/teTeX/ | 19:02 |
| bd2 | oh crap, that is sucks | 19:02 |
| treach | I bet someone else will. And if not, is it needed? | 19:04 |
| treach | besides, everyone knows that Word is the pancea for typesetting. ;) | 19:04 |
| bd2 | "I (Thomas Esser)" suggests us to use Live TeX distribution. it's 600 MB, and provides only as iso's | 19:07 |
| koefz | That would be fun to make a Pkgfile for. | 19:12 |
| koefz | And actually use it. | 19:12 |
| treach | sounds like a pretty damned stupid idea, imo. | 19:12 |
| treach | like, back to the old days of shuffling floppies.. | 19:13 |
| koefz | Hahah, yeah. Those damned floppies. | 19:14 |
| * treach remembers his old amstrad with 2 5.25 floppydrives and 512K ram. :p | 19:15 | |
| koefz | I had a friend with no dial-up connection at home, and he only had one single floppy. So he took his bike back and forth, back and forth, to copy a whole bunch of winamp skins and icons and whatnot. | 19:15 |
| treach | lol | 19:15 |
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| koefz | Those 5.25" floppies were the greatest. | 19:16 |
| koefz | =) | 19:16 |
| treach | speak about floppies. :) | 19:16 |
| * bd2 had a computer that was boot from audio tapes | 19:18 | |
| treach | c64? | 19:18 |
| treach | those were cool. :) | 19:18 |
| treach | copying games etc with a tape-recorder. :P | 19:19 |
| koefz | Damn, we're starting to get old. | 19:19 |
| koefz | =( | 19:19 |
| treach | aye. | 19:19 |
| koefz | I remember I liked those early i286:es and i386:es best. | 19:19 |
| koefz | Larry, Codename Iceman, etc. | 19:20 |
| bd2 | treach, no, not c64. it was russian, called "Assistant" ;-) | 19:20 |
| treach | ah. | 19:20 |
| koefz | I think Testdrive started to come out sometime around there. | 19:20 |
| koefz | Nothing like a Corvette's engine roar simulated by a PC-speaker. | 19:20 |
| koefz | =) | 19:20 |
| treach | :P | 19:20 |
| koefz | bd2, cool. | 19:21 |
| treach | probably some illegal c64 copy. ;) | 19:22 |
| koefz | Much of that old Soviet tech seem to have been lost on the way. | 19:22 |
| koefz | Or maybe it has never reached us in the west. | 19:22 |
| koefz | But they had to have something to run those moonrockets and ICBM:s and stuff. | 19:23 |
| treach | you don't lose soviet tech! it'll be around for ever.. | 19:23 |
| koefz | And most likely it wasn't american hardware. | 19:23 |
| koefz | =) | 19:23 |
| treach | but maybe it was american *designed*. :p | 19:24 |
| koefz | treach, sure. But how many have ever heard of "Assistant", or what their variant of Unix was like, etc. | 19:24 |
| koefz | What CPU architectures did they use. | 19:24 |
| koefz | treach, heheh. | 19:24 |
| bd2 | "probably some illegal c64 copy.", I really think it is. it is definitely a clone | 19:25 |
| hermit | ok my memory is failing me | 19:25 |
| koefz | bd2, heheh. | 19:25 |
| hermit | what's the name for the practice of embedded one file into another cryptographically without affecting the host file? such as embedded a text file into a jpeg and it only being viewable by being decrypted | 19:25 |
| hermit | I thought it was stenography but that seems incorrect. | 19:25 |
| treach | no, it sounds right. | 19:26 |
| hermit | STEGANOGRAPHY! | 19:26 |
| treach | gah | 19:26 |
| treach | I misread.. I thought you wrote steganography the first time.. :D | 19:27 |
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| sam__ | hello | 21:18 |
| sam__ | anyone is using wmii from ports and get wmiir: cannot open file '/bar/status/data': file not found | 21:19 |
| jaeger | not I | 21:22 |
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| Han | screen rocks | 21:28 |
| strw | indeed | 21:30 |
| Han | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/configs/dot-screenrc :-) | 21:32 |
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| strw | :) | 21:36 |
| strw | http://www.gnoedi.org/~straw/pub/bashrc | 21:36 |
| strw | maybe it's useful to someone | 21:36 |
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| Han | echo $PATH | grep -q /usr/local/sbin || PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:$PATH | 21:59 |
| Han | strw, you may want to take a look at my zshrc ;-) | 21:59 |
| strw | why not ;) | 22:00 |
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| strw | alias :wq='echo "Dude.. $SHELL != vi"' | 22:02 |
| strw | that's really important.. | 22:02 |
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| Han | hmmm I have often typed c-x c-c as well. :-) | 22:09 |
| Han | Quite impossible to make an alias of that. | 22:09 |
| Han | strw, doesn't that alias interfere with : which is a valid command. | 22:10 |
| Han | Ow well, I bet you wouldn't notice in an interactive shell. | 22:10 |
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| strw | hmm, : doesn't seem to make an troubles | 22:14 |
| strw | *any | 22:14 |
| Han | : the shell built-in for /usr/bin/true | 22:17 |
| strw | yea | 22:19 |
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| lutin_triste | hi , anyone know if you need IP: Advanced router in kernel for iptables | 22:59 |
| jdolan | you do not. | 23:00 |
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