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| sapin | when i try to build python from port i get.. =======> ERROR: Footprint mismatch found: | 01:11 |
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| sapin | NEW -rwxr-xr-x root/root usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so | 01:11 |
| sapin | =======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/python/python#2.4.3-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed. | 01:11 |
| sapin | oups | 01:11 |
| sapin | sorry | 01:11 |
| Manwich | hey, this is a dumb question, and i'm trying to figure it out from the handbook but I'm getting confused, does crux provide binary packages in repositories alongside ports (like freebsd) | 01:11 |
| rxi | not officially | 01:12 |
| rxi | apart from whats on the cd | 01:12 |
| sapin | anyone know what im missing to install python | 01:12 |
| rxi | sapin: sounds like tk | 01:12 |
| Manwich | thx | 01:13 |
| rxi | prt-get depinsta python --install-scripts | 01:13 |
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| sapin | i have tk 8.4.9-1 | 01:13 |
| predatorfreak | sapin: Your not missing anything, your getting something new. | 01:20 |
| sapin | is it broken? | 01:20 |
| rxi | lol i didnt even look at that | 01:21 |
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| sapin | i guess | 01:35 |
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| richi_aut | hi, anyone using the nvidia driver from opt | 04:37 |
| richi_aut | ? | 04:37 |
| maro | richi_aut: nope, it's just there | 04:38 |
| richi_aut | maro: are you using it? | 04:39 |
| maro | no | 04:39 |
| maro | but if you asked your question perhaps someone who does will answer it | 04:39 |
| richi_aut | while compiling glitz i got following error message: "gcc: /usr/lib/libGL.so: No such file or directory". anyone knows how to get arround this? | 04:41 |
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| deus_ex | Hi,treach. | 04:59 |
| treach | hi pedja :) | 04:59 |
| deus_ex | What's up? | 05:00 |
| treach | nothing really, just the bad cold of the century I guess. :-/ | 05:00 |
| deus_ex | :( | 05:01 |
| treach | predatorfreak: changed your repo lately, or did you tire of it? | 05:02 |
| predatorfreak | treach: What needs updating? | 05:02 |
| predatorfreak | Aside from firefox/thunderbird. | 05:02 |
| predatorfreak | I haven't updated those yet because of the fact that I need too rebuild each. | 05:02 |
| treach | no, but it seems like I can't reach it. | 05:03 |
| treach | so I though you maybe had taken it off line. | 05:03 |
| predatorfreak | treach: I moved it too http://www.dcaf-security.org/ports/ | 05:03 |
| predatorfreak | So that may be it. | 05:03 |
| treach | oh. | 05:03 |
| treach | that would explain it. | 05:04 |
| predatorfreak | My old host died because of hard disk failure. | 05:04 |
| predatorfreak | and this gave me the perfect excuse too switch it. | 05:04 |
| treach | I see. | 05:04 |
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| ulughbegh | hey | 05:47 |
| ulughbegh | see ya | 05:56 |
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| rxi | lol | 05:57 |
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| rxi | welcome back | 06:09 |
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| mike_k | jdolan: have you tested opt/j2re creation? | 07:30 |
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| deus_ex | mike_k: I've sent him diff for j2re.Any problems? | 07:40 |
| mike_k | deus_ex: no errors, but 230k package as a result ( | 07:41 |
| mike_k | 230 Bytes | 07:41 |
| mike_k | anly a few links inside | 07:42 |
| mike_k | I just can't dig in now | 07:42 |
| deus_ex | Strange. | 07:42 |
| deus_ex | Does .md5sum check out? | 07:44 |
| mike_k | deus_ex: oh, thanks. I was looking at the old file. The new is empty | 07:46 |
| deus_ex | You did download jre from Sun's site before making the package? | 07:47 |
| deus_ex | Just checking :) | 07:47 |
| mike_k | sorry for false warning | 07:48 |
| deus_ex | np | 07:48 |
| * rxi slaps mike_k around with a large troute | 07:48 | |
| deus_ex | What's a troute? | 07:49 |
| deus_ex | Some kind of fish? | 07:49 |
| rxi | yeah ,, large trout | 07:49 |
| * deus_ex googles | 07:50 | |
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| jdolan | man.. way to start off my morning with a panic attack =P | 07:59 |
| jdolan | deus_ex, there's also the one-eyed trouser trout.. | 08:00 |
| jdolan | 8=====) ~o ~o | 08:00 |
| rxi | jdolan: sup my nigger | 08:00 |
| deus_ex | jdolan: :-) | 08:01 |
| jdolan | hi rxi | 08:02 |
| deus_ex | I learn something new every day... | 08:02 |
| rxi | jdolan: got any brown trout over your way? | 08:02 |
| jdolan | rxi, browns, rainbows, brook trout.. | 08:03 |
| jdolan | i love freshwater fishing :) | 08:03 |
| rxi | jdolan: lol .. brown trout is a turd | 08:03 |
| jdolan | i thought you might be headed in that direction ;) | 08:04 |
| jdolan | tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. | 08:04 |
| rxi | l;ol | 08:04 |
| jdolan | hehe.. i get it, they both swim. | 08:04 |
| rxi | ive been drinking | 08:04 |
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| sapin | someone installed python from ports ? bc i get Footprint mismatch on usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so | 10:38 |
| rxi | someone already resolved that for you | 10:39 |
| sapin | where | 10:42 |
| rxi | 16:20 < predatorfreak> sapin: Your not missing anything, your getting something new. | 10:42 |
| sapin | ok | 10:43 |
| rxi | prt-get help | 10:43 |
| rxi | or prt-get depinst python --margs="if" | 10:44 |
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| sapin | it work but do you know why it was doing that ? | 10:54 |
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| prologic | yeah you have things the maintainer doesn't or didn't when he compiled it | 10:59 |
| prologic | no big deal | 10:59 |
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| mike_k | if a daemon app does not support internal user change during execution... should we list sudo as a dependecy (for rc.d script)? | 13:55 |
| jjpk | Suppose you could, what daemon are you talking about though= | 13:57 |
| jjpk | s/=/? | 13:57 |
| cptn | doesn't seem right | 13:58 |
| cptn | don't you rather want 'su'? | 13:58 |
| mike_k | in rc.d script? | 14:01 |
| cptn | yeah | 14:01 |
| mike_k | jjpk: I am talking about zabbix_agentd | 14:01 |
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| mike_k | network monitoring agent | 14:02 |
| mike_k | for use with zabbix server | 14:02 |
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| j^2 | hey all | 14:38 |
| jjpk | hi. | 14:38 |
| j^2 | \o/ TPB is back up! | 14:40 |
| aon | \o/ | 14:41 |
| aon | but mostly it sucks :( | 14:41 |
| j^2 | true, but it's a real stand for the cause ;) | 14:42 |
| j^2 | give it a couple more days and it'll be the defacto standard for the movement again | 14:42 |
| aon | no, i mean it sucks in general | 14:42 |
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| deus_ex | What's a TPB? | 14:50 |
| aon | the pirate bay | 14:50 |
| deus_ex | Bittorent? | 14:50 |
| j^2 | yep | 14:50 |
| deus_ex | Thanks. | 14:50 |
| vektori | "Thanks, I was just looking for the latest album from Britney Spears." | 14:51 |
| j^2 | man, i'm like the preggies ;) | 14:51 |
| aon | :D | 14:51 |
| deus_ex | s/Britney Spears/Tool | 14:51 |
| vektori | Hehe. | 14:51 |
| deus_ex | Perfect Circle, that is :) | 14:52 |
| vektori | Come on, make up your mind! :P | 14:52 |
| aon | anime on finnish tv, and it isn't (poke|digi)mon or the moomins. extraordinary. | 14:53 |
| deus_ex | OK....And you will know us by the trail of dead | 14:54 |
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| vektori | aon, well, Neon Genesis Evangelion has been airing for a long time. | 14:54 |
| aon | it has? | 14:54 |
| vektori | Yeah. | 14:55 |
| j^2 | i've tryed getting into it.....alas...it' was too out there for me | 14:55 |
| aon | which ch? | 14:55 |
| vektori | Subtv. | 14:55 |
| aon | k | 14:55 |
| vektori | Now there's also Yugioh and Hamtaro. :P | 14:55 |
| aon | :) | 14:55 |
| aon | ok, anime on yle, then | 14:55 |
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| aon | although i have kurenai no buta on vhs from early 90's :) | 14:56 |
| aon | that was on tv2 iirc | 14:56 |
| vektori | Yeah, I recall them airing that | 14:56 |
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| RyoS | i am haveing a slight problem installing x11... there is no startx in my /usr/bin/ | 15:49 |
| jaeger | try /usr/X11R6/bin | 15:51 |
| jaeger | prt-get fsearch helps here | 15:51 |
| RyoS | alright, thanks | 15:51 |
| RyoS | there we go, still it fails... mh.. | 15:52 |
| RyoS | i guess this is because i tried to install xorg7.. it somehow seems to think i am still using it.. the nvidia driver maybe.. reinstalling this might help out.. | 15:52 |
| thrice` | /usr/bin/startx is from xorg7 | 15:54 |
| RyoS | again same problem... mh... damn... i even removed every folder x11 creates before i compiled it.. | 15:54 |
| thrice` | did you logout/in? maybe you need to update your path | 15:55 |
| RyoS | how do i do that? and no didnt logout and in.. i am pretty rusty right now with my linux experience.. didnt use it for a long time | 15:56 |
| thrice` | well, if you removed x11, it might have changed your PATH | 15:56 |
| thrice` | meaning, it won't find /usr/X11R6/bin or whatever | 15:56 |
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| RyoS | might ldconfig help? | 15:57 |
| RyoS | alright | 15:58 |
| RyoS | there we go =) | 15:58 |
| RyoS | thanks | 15:58 |
| RyoS | there still is one problem... root can successfully run X, user cant | 16:00 |
| RyoS | i have absolutly no idea why this is oO | 16:04 |
| RyoS | weird... the startx output is exactly the same as for the user | 16:09 |
| deus_ex | strace it, that might give you a hint. | 16:10 |
| RyoS | strace? | 16:10 |
| deus_ex | strace -o startx.log $(which startx) | 16:11 |
| deus_ex | then check the log for wrong permissions, etc. | 16:11 |
| RyoS | this log actually looks like nothing usefull to me :s | 16:12 |
| deus_ex | Then paste it to paste.lisp.org, someone can check it out. | 16:13 |
| RyoS | is there a way to copy/paste in the console, or can i upload the file somewhere otherwise it will be a slight problem | 16:14 |
| vektori | This guy can't be serious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgdgHkZj0iU&search=america | 16:16 |
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| RyoS | which group should the user have? | 16:18 |
| RyoS | i just saw that i didnt create a users group.. | 16:18 |
| RyoS | oh.. there is.. | 16:18 |
| RyoS | oh wait i will just put the log online | 16:20 |
| deus_ex | Also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 16:23 |
| koefz | vektori, =) | 16:24 |
| RyoS | only problems.. when you need sshd, it wont work... crap | 16:25 |
| vektori | Even after fixing /etc/hosts.deny? | 16:25 |
| RyoS | mh let me check ._. | 16:26 |
| vektori | It's in The Great Book of Hand. | 16:26 |
| RyoS | what shall i put there? i forgot.. i got it all working once.. | 16:26 |
| predatorfreak | vektori: Book of Hand? o.O | 16:26 |
| predatorfreak | vektori: That makes it sound like some masturbation manual. | 16:27 |
| vektori | Haha. | 16:27 |
| vektori | RyoS: man hosts_options | 16:27 |
| RyoS | ok | 16:27 |
| vektori | koefz: Hehe, http://krupsjustsayin.blogspot.com/2005/04/i-dare-you-to-sit-through-whole-thing.html | 16:33 |
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| RyoS | try ryosaeba.servebeer.com/~ryo/startx.log | 16:39 |
| vektori | w3m: Can't load http://ryosaeba.servebeer.com/~ryo/startx.log. | 16:40 |
| RyoS | mh... -_- | 16:40 |
| RyoS | now | 16:41 |
| RyoS | forgot to run httpd after reboot | 16:42 |
| RyoS | anyone can find some hints in there? | 16:48 |
| deus_ex | Not really.Anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? | 16:51 |
| RyoS | nope | 16:52 |
| RyoS | something wants to make me angry Oo | 16:54 |
| RyoS | i just added a new user | 16:54 |
| RyoS | and it works | 16:54 |
| deus_ex | Good. | 16:55 |
| RyoS | weird... | 16:56 |
| RyoS | haha =D deleted "ryo", readded it, doesnt work, weird! i will just use a new login name :x | 16:59 |
| acrux_ | rxi: today, we have worked on cruxppc | 16:59 |
| acrux_ | tomorrow, i think you can download a ppc32 iso | 16:59 |
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| jdolan | what's the largest numerical value you can represent with a float? | 17:45 |
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| nipuL | jdolan: that's a rather platform dependent question ;P | 18:38 |
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| eliteforce | hello | 18:39 |
| j^2 | hey eliteforce | 18:43 |
| eliteforce | i just found crux in wikipedia and it kinda looks nice | 18:43 |
| j^2 | awesome, the best way to learn about it is just to try it, do you run linux now? | 18:45 |
| eliteforce | ehh no but i've the new ubuntu installed and it sucks imo | 18:45 |
| eliteforce | never liked it ^^ | 18:46 |
| j^2 | cool cool, i'd suggest you get qemu installed on you ubuntu installation, try buliding crux that way and take it for a spin ;) | 18:46 |
| eliteforce | its so bugged (probably because i have a laptop here) | 18:46 |
| eliteforce | hehe building on my own?^ | 18:48 |
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| eliteforce | ahm are there any repositories for packages? | 18:51 |
| vektori | No. | 18:51 |
| vektori | CRUX is a source-based distribution | 18:52 |
| eliteforce | i see, but why are there package tools then? :D | 18:52 |
| eliteforce | or did i get something wrong | 18:52 |
| vektori | Because the source gets compiled to packages, and the packages get added into the package database. | 18:52 |
| eliteforce | ah jeah *wallbash* | 18:53 |
| vektori | The only official binary packages are those on the CD. | 18:53 |
| eliteforce | ok, i just dont like it if i have to build x and a whole desktop environment and ... takes ages :/ | 18:56 |
| eliteforce | sad | 18:56 |
| vektori | You didn't even look what's on the CD yet. | 18:57 |
| j^2 | we have binarys of those, x, and windowmaker, but if you dont want to, well crux might be for you | 18:57 |
| eliteforce | where can i see whats on the cd | 19:00 |
| vektori | http://crux.nu/files/crux-2.2-packages.txt | 19:02 |
| eliteforce | thanks alot | 19:03 |
| vektori | :) | 19:03 |
| eliteforce | heh minimalistic, i guess the creator was bsd fan :P | 19:04 |
| j^2 | very | 19:04 |
| eliteforce | ok one more silly question, how stable is it? | 19:05 |
| j^2 | as stable as you make it ;) | 19:06 |
| eliteforce | or when is a port assumed stable? | 19:06 |
| eliteforce | / are there many patches | 19:06 |
| eliteforce | just curious hehe | 19:06 |
| j^2 | vektori: you want to field that question? | 19:07 |
| vektori | Hmm. No. :P | 19:07 |
| vektori | Minimal patching is done when necessary | 19:07 |
| vektori | And stable, non-beta versions are used | 19:07 |
| eliteforce | ive a weird idea right now | 19:09 |
| eliteforce | a decentralized p2p package management hehe | 19:09 |
| vektori | With XML! | 19:10 |
| j^2 | already discussed ;) | 19:10 |
| j^2 | hahaha | 19:10 |
| eliteforce | :O | 19:10 |
| eliteforce | geeks! | 19:10 |
| vektori | And Buzzword-o-matic! :) | 19:10 |
| nipuL | eliteforce: most geeks have probably thought of it at some stage | 19:10 |
| eliteforce | that idea hit me like a lightning | 19:11 |
| nipuL | doing it with torrents would be very easy | 19:11 |
| eliteforce | so why doesnt it exist yet? :] | 19:11 |
| nipuL | i prefer source based ports | 19:12 |
| vektori | Because CRUX has a weak binary package format. | 19:12 |
| eliteforce | :( | 19:12 |
| vektori | It's not suitable for large-scale sharing. | 19:12 |
| nipuL | if i wanted binary pakages i'd use debian | 19:12 |
| eliteforce | hmpf thats too outdated | 19:13 |
| eliteforce | but i'm having a problem with linux in general anyway ^^ | 19:14 |
| eliteforce | that incompatibilities and bugs are making me crazy | 19:18 |
| vektori | Maybe you should run something else? | 19:18 |
| eliteforce | i'm using windows for gaming.. but windows disappoints me too | 19:19 |
| eliteforce | gimme some guru advice! :P | 19:22 |
| vektori | Run OpenBSD. :P | 19:23 |
| eliteforce | i had freebsd on my laptop | 19:24 |
| Han | incompatibilities for hardware are caused by the iron grip M$ has on the industry, and the only way out is to support FOSS | 19:25 |
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| vektori | *applause* | 19:25 |
| * eliteforce *cries* | 19:26 | |
| Han | This is a battle! | 19:27 |
| eliteforce | an unfair one | 19:27 |
| Han | Indeed. | 19:27 |
| eliteforce | http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/ports/x11/kde/Makefile?rev=1.58&content-type=text/plain | 19:28 |
| eliteforce | anime-sitters? | 19:28 |
| eliteforce | i'm so down | 19:31 |
| koefz | Nuking Seattle could also be a solution. | 19:34 |
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| eliteforce | coding an evil windows virus would be more realistic | 19:35 |
| eliteforce | but i'm not soooo into assembler, so its up to somebody else :p | 19:36 |
| vektori | Dude, Windows *is* an evil virus. | 19:36 |
| eliteforce | hmmm, nice point of view :) | 19:37 |
| eliteforce | if i just wasn't such an addicted gamer hehe | 19:38 |
| strw | zsnes is the answer ;) | 19:39 |
| vektori | :) | 19:39 |
| eliteforce | lawl | 19:39 |
| eliteforce | i left znes behind me when i was 12 | 19:40 |
| koefz | I left Wintendo when I was 12. | 19:40 |
| eliteforce | i'm switching linux distributions more often than my pants :( | 19:40 |
| koefz | Yeah, that is a strange phenomenon. | 19:42 |
| eliteforce | a treatable one? | 19:42 |
| eliteforce | hey but i also reinstall windows ~once a month | 19:42 |
| vektori | You should try imaging software. :) | 19:42 |
| eliteforce | or every two month | 19:42 |
| vektori | Install once and restore from backup when everything gets fucked up. | 19:43 |
| koefz | Or just install Arch. | 19:43 |
| eliteforce | i'm coder, bugs are my enemies | 19:43 |
| eliteforce | like the ants in my room | 19:43 |
| eliteforce | :( | 19:43 |
| vektori | Ah yes, Arch, the Holy Grail of Linux distributions. | 19:44 |
| eliteforce | i had archlinux already | 19:44 |
| eliteforce | :D | 19:44 |
| koefz | Did you like it? | 19:44 |
| vektori | If all else fails, call Eugenia. | 19:44 |
| eliteforce | was cool until everything crashed after an update | 19:44 |
| koefz | vektori, hahah. | 19:44 |
| koefz | Then you won't like us. | 19:44 |
| koefz | Bye. | 19:44 |
| koefz | =P | 19:44 |
| vektori | CRUX is like Arch except more primitive. :P | 19:44 |
| eliteforce | so i cursed some arch devs and said goodbye on the mailing list, i guess they dont love me anymore | 19:45 |
| koefz | vektori, "less complex" is the correct term, I think. | 19:45 |
| koefz | =P | 19:46 |
| eliteforce | if it was a bit more stable i'd grab the latest netinstall iso and install it right now | 19:46 |
| vektori | No, Arch really is evolved. Unfortunately in this case the evolutionary step consists of growing a kitchen sink on your back. | 19:46 |
| eliteforce | doesnt that hurt? hehehehe | 19:47 |
| vektori | eliteforce, what do you mean with "a bit more stable"? Did it crash even before you installed it? | 19:47 |
| koefz | Yeah, but "primitive" sound so negative. | 19:47 |
| koefz | On the hand it scares newbies away. | 19:47 |
| vektori | Yes, but it's primitive from the Arch POV. ;) | 19:48 |
| eliteforce | vektori: nah it was "stable" until i wrote some nasty stuff into the console and pressed return | 19:48 |
| vektori | :O | 19:49 |
| eliteforce | which was a simple pacman -Suy | 19:49 |
| vektori | Must be the parental control. | 19:49 |
| eliteforce | ok, ok, a sudo pacman -Suy | 19:49 |
| eliteforce | *duck* | 19:49 |
| vektori | Try KNOPPIX, it's hard to mess up that one. :P | 19:50 |
| eliteforce | that one was a bit low :p | 19:50 |
| vektori | Anyway, I ought to get some sleep. -> | 19:50 |
| eliteforce | eh wait ^^ | 19:50 |
| eliteforce | just wanted to say thx for the discussion | 19:51 |
| eliteforce | keep up the work on crux and i wish u much success | 19:51 |
| eliteforce | byebye | 19:51 |
| eliteforce | (if you want to hear more non success stories of trying out linux distributions query me :P) | 19:51 |
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| vektori | Well that was fun. | 19:52 |
| * vektori strikes one newbie out. | 19:52 | |
| strw | :) | 19:53 |
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| kensai | I can't but get amazed at the blazing speed packages build in CRUX | 19:57 |
| thrice` | i wish .desktop files weren't removed by default | 19:59 |
| thrice` | it's annoying for us DE users :( | 20:00 |
| kensai | yay KDE! | 20:00 |
| rxi | thrice`: email the maintainer with your problem | 20:01 |
| thrice` | it'd be alot of maintainers :) | 20:01 |
| rxi | or just modify the port yourseldf | 20:01 |
| kensai | in CRUX modifyng ports is so easy | 20:02 |
| thrice` | it'd be nice. say, I install amarok, it' just appear in my menu in kde | 20:02 |
| kensai | thrice`: I install amarok and it appears in my K menu | 20:03 |
| kensai | log out and log in and see if it is there | 20:03 |
| rxi | well put something forward on the ml to discuss if .desktop should be installed | 20:03 |
| thrice` | openoffice didn't (amarok hasn't finished compiling yet :) | 20:03 |
| thrice` | I think it has been discussed before | 20:03 |
| rxi | ahh | 20:04 |
| kensai | thrice`: Koffice 1.5.1 is way better for me in a kde environment I just use OO.org in a GNOME environment | 20:04 |
| thrice` | so how long was kde start to finish for ya? | 20:07 |
| kensai | I shall make an article " Top 10 Reasons I hate Arch Linux and love CRUX" | 20:07 |
| rxi | ok now your freaking me out | 20:08 |
| thrice` | lol | 20:08 |
| kensai | 10. DOes not have a GOAL just a lot of bleeding edge pakages appearing on repo day to day | 20:08 |
| rxi | ok you can stop now | 20:09 |
| kensai | rxi: sorry I was traped inside Arch Linux just this morning | 20:09 |
| rxi | we all know why arch sucks | 20:09 |
| kensai | I won't list the 10 neither :) | 20:09 |
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