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| prologic | http://paste.lisp.org/display/26014 <-- can someone help job my memory as to what I'm missing in my kernel :) | 01:18 |
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| prologic | stupid burner ain't working atm | 01:18 |
| cptn | try 'dev=ATA' | 01:20 |
| cptn | not ATAPI | 01:20 |
| prologic | hm ok | 01:20 |
| cptn | or cdrecord -scanbus dev=/dev/hdc :-) | 01:21 |
| prologic | ahh | 01:21 |
| prologic | heh | 01:21 |
| prologic | ATA works | 01:21 |
| cptn | (although you don't need the scanbus then) | 01:21 |
| prologic | how come ATAPI used to work and now doesn't | 01:21 |
| prologic | and ATA works instead | 01:21 |
| prologic | *meh* | 01:21 |
| prologic | yay it's burning now | 01:22 |
| cptn | I don't really know, but I guess Joerg decided it would be better that way :-) | 01:22 |
| prologic | heh | 01:22 |
| prologic | ta anyway :) | 01:22 |
| cptn | no problem | 01:22 |
| prologic | now off to build my router | 01:22 |
| cptn | cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc <image> should really work too | 01:22 |
| cptn | and it's easier to remember | 01:22 |
| prologic | *nods* | 01:22 |
| cptn | although I keep using the ATA stuff myself as well, old habits ... | 01:23 |
| prologic | any wifi experts here ? | 01:44 |
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| pitillo | hi good morning. Trying to understand the swapon problem. Reviewed the rejected files and no one related to udev. Quite strange. Going on reading. | 01:48 |
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| pitillo | well, searching wich is the needed rule in the older udev ruleset. | 02:05 |
| pitillo | :? adding inotify support at kernel solves the problem.... Dont need to touch udev rules. Sorry was my error. | 02:25 |
| pitillo | now time to fight a bit with the touchpad. | 02:27 |
| cptn | strange | 02:27 |
| cptn | I fail to see how inotify affects that | 02:27 |
| cptn | was it the very same kernel before, or an older one? | 02:28 |
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| pitillo | ummm, is a custom kernel(2.6.15). Using the default one, a lot of errors with acpi. Im using apm at the moment and no problems. | 02:40 |
| pitillo | like I said yesterday, it is a fresh install with a ports update and a sysup. Before do that, recompiled the kernel to make the system usable. | 02:41 |
| cptn | pitillo: I just disabled inotify in my kernel | 02:52 |
| cptn | without any effect on swap | 02:53 |
| cptn | so I would guess that you did something else which resolved the problem | 02:53 |
| pitillo | cptn, sure I didn?t touch anything more. Remerjed to see any changes, tried the older rules with lot of errors and recompiled the kernel. Only did that. It?s the first time I see that error. | 03:32 |
| pitillo | prologic, what is your doubt about wifi? (Im not an expert but may be I can help if I know the problem) | 03:46 |
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| prologic | pitillo, oh good thanks | 07:31 |
| prologic | sorry for the delay | 07:31 |
| prologic | I'm just not sure about the technicaly requirements I'm after | 07:31 |
| prologic | I'm setting up an outdoor AC (all the networking side of things I can handle) just need some pointers on the hardware | 07:32 |
| rxi_ | hey prologic your back | 07:32 |
| prologic | what kind of card, antenna, etc. I'm wanting to cover at least a 300-500m radius | 07:32 |
| prologic | and most people will be using laptops of some kind indoors | 07:32 |
| prologic | yeah I am rxi_ | 07:32 |
| prologic | glad to be too :) | 07:33 |
| rxi_ | hehe good to have you back :) .. netgear rangemax 240? | 07:33 |
| prologic | atm I'm thinking of going with the Senao 400mW miniPCI wireless card, 802.11abg and a 6 or 8 db antenna, but not sure yet | 07:33 |
| prologic | yeah either a 240 | 07:33 |
| prologic | or 360 | 07:33 |
| prologic | I'm just a bit weary about the coverage I'm gonna get and wether or not it will cover the radius I want | 07:34 |
| prologic | and give nice signals for clients in most of the unit complexes around us | 07:34 |
| rxi_ | ahh .. tried just calling manufacturers and asking them? | 07:35 |
| prologic | haha | 07:35 |
| prologic | actually not :) | 07:35 |
| prologic | *no | 07:35 |
| rxi_ | hehe .. thats usually a pretty good start | 07:36 |
| prologic | might actually try that aye | 07:36 |
| rxi_ | yeah netgear is pretty good | 07:37 |
| prologic | as in the antenna ? | 07:37 |
| rxi_ | havent tried there antenna but asfar as support and quality goes | 07:38 |
| prologic | yeah | 07:38 |
| prologic | I like netgear myself | 07:38 |
| prologic | dlink can kiss my ass :) | 07:38 |
| rxi_ | lol .. yeah they suck | 07:38 |
| prologic | last time I rang them up for support to find out how to switch a dsl modem into bridged mode | 07:38 |
| prologic | they couldn't tell me | 07:38 |
| prologic | and were rather rude | 07:38 |
| prologic | stupid bloody interface :) | 07:38 |
| prologic | took me the better part of a day finding it | 07:38 |
| rxi_ | lol .. netgear were hard to nail down on bridge mode on the DG632 | 07:39 |
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| prologic | yeap | 07:39 |
| prologic | Romster has one of those | 07:39 |
| prologic | thing is, it's a bridging option now | 07:39 |
| prologic | usually a bridge filter | 07:39 |
| prologic | used to be just "modem" mode on my dm602 | 07:39 |
| rxi_ | ahh .. didnt know there was a difference | 07:40 |
| prologic | rfc 1483 full bridge afaik | 07:41 |
| prologic | and usually found under bridge filters now | 07:41 |
| rxi_ | ahh | 07:41 |
| prologic | new router almost done | 07:41 |
| prologic | building my family a new router | 07:41 |
| prologic | running MikroTik RouterOS 2.9 | 07:42 |
| rxi_ | im going for a cisco adsl router | 07:42 |
| prologic | hmm | 07:42 |
| prologic | expensive :) | 07:42 |
| rxi_ | hehe nah ebay job :) | 07:42 |
| rxi_ | <$200 for a second hand 837 | 07:42 |
| prologic | ahh nice | 07:43 |
| prologic | RouterOS does the job just as well | 07:43 |
| prologic | if not better (and cheaper) :) | 07:43 |
| rxi_ | or ~$500 for a new soho from ingram | 07:43 |
| prologic | but yeah cisco is nice | 07:43 |
| rxi_ | hehe .. yeah now they have a web interface i dont need to us ios | 07:44 |
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| copwork | crouterx <- find the hidden word | 08:08 |
| cptn | rtrx? | 08:11 |
| rxi_ | crout? | 08:12 |
| cptn | lol | 08:12 |
| cptn | psst, rxi_, it's crux | 08:12 |
| cptn | but don't tell anyone | 08:12 |
| rxi_ | lol | 08:12 |
| copwork | dang, i wanted it to be trout | 08:13 |
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| cptn | cohan: is there a crux vserver howto? | 08:15 |
| cptn | I looked in your wiki, haven't found anything though | 08:16 |
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| pitillo | prologic, I dont know a lot about that Q. I can talk about my little experiencie with wifi cards and antennas. The antenna of a pci/pcmcia card can give you about 8db, thats for 10-15m like much (my experiencie) and changing the default antenna qith a "cd antenna" made by me, gives about 15-18db. (20-30m). But in this lenght you need to rest walls, rain and more (too many packets lost in my opinion, dont know if were the cards or antennas)... | 10:13 |
| pitillo | A electronic, may be, can give you more info about length with differents antennas; like I said, its my little experiencie. I hope I can test 802.11n to see the new speed and if it can give more leght. | 10:13 |
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| jdolan_ | name service recommendations? | 10:49 |
| jdolan_ | bind? something else? | 10:49 |
| tilman | the one by that retarded professor | 10:50 |
| tilman | with the retarded licenses | 10:51 |
| tilman | djbdns | 10:51 |
| tilman | ;) | 10:51 |
| cptn | for a small site, dnsmasq is great | 10:51 |
| aon | tilman: s/the retarded license/no license/ :) | 10:52 |
| jdolan_ | cptn, i'll only be handling a few 2nd level domains, with potential for many 3rd level subdomains (a wildcard record would be nice). | 10:52 |
| jdolan_ | everythings going to be pointing at the same IP. | 10:52 |
| tilman | aon: really? | 10:52 |
| tilman | i don't remember the details | 10:53 |
| tilman | just that it wasn't very good | 10:53 |
| tilman | *cough* | 10:53 |
| tilman | djb: i apologize for calling you retarded! | 10:53 |
| cptn | jdolan_: it definitely has some wildcard support | 10:56 |
| cptn | I remember using it on a wireless setup, where we redirected everything to a portal | 10:56 |
| cptn | i.e. every hostname was resolved to a single IP | 10:56 |
| cptn | it's been a while though | 10:56 |
| aon | tilman: afaik yes | 10:59 |
| aon | http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html | 10:59 |
| cptn | jdolan_: address=/doubleclick.net/127.0.0.1 | 10:59 |
| cptn | "send any host in doubleclick.net to a local | 11:00 |
| cptn | # webserver" | 11:00 |
| jdolan_ | cptn, i need to actually be authoritative for several internet domains tho. | 11:00 |
| cptn | mmmh, okay | 11:01 |
| cptn | I don't really know that field, so can't help there | 11:01 |
| tilman | aon: ok, it sucks. | 11:06 |
| rehabdoll | bind is nice | 11:07 |
| rehabdoll | openssl: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-4339 | 11:09 |
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| jue | jdolan: maradns | 11:11 |
| tilman | aon: iirc he doesn't allow redistribution or something. i cannot find that paragraph right now and don't have time to look further ;) | 11:11 |
| tilman | nipuL: ping | 11:35 |
| tilman | nipuL: cut down your signature to four lines please... 23 lines is way too large | 11:36 |
| tilman | it makes me want to swallow a tennis ball and choke on it | 11:36 |
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| jdolan_ | cptn, thanks for your help anyway :) | 12:04 |
| aon | tilman: yeah, you can't redistribute modified binaries | 12:43 |
| jdolan_ | sweet. named simply exits on startup, no error messages, strace and gdb are no help. heh. | 12:55 |
| treach | mh, "find somedir -iname {foo,bar} -delete" doesn't work, is that effect possible in some other way? | 12:55 |
| jdolan_ | -exec rm -rf {}\; | 12:55 |
| treach | ah, nice. :) | 12:56 |
| jdolan_ | careful | 12:56 |
| jdolan_ | it works.. | 12:56 |
| jdolan_ | that's the problem :D | 12:56 |
| treach | heh, yeah. :D | 12:56 |
| treach | I take that as "-exec rm -rf{foo,bar}\;" then. (just double checking, since I'm duly warned.. :p ) | 12:57 |
| jue | jdolan_: have a look at maradns: secure, fast, easy to configure and very well documented | 12:58 |
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| tilman | treach: {} is the pattern that's replaced by the file name | 13:02 |
| tilman | so {foo,bar} won't work | 13:02 |
| treach | ok. | 13:02 |
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| rehabdoll | seems there's a new firefox-version out | 13:58 |
| rehabdoll | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7/source/firefox-1.5.0.7-source.tar.bz2 | 13:59 |
| tilman | xcb 1.0 tomorrow! | 13:59 |
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| bd2 | tilman, hey. wrong "URL: " field on that page http://crux.nu/portdb/?command=viewrepo&name=x11r7 | 14:46 |
| bd2 | tilman, and also do you have svn/git/whatever repository of your x11 ports? (sorry if I've asked that question before) | 14:48 |
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| Zeuclas | could someone help me with a strange problem i have? | 14:50 |
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| bd2 | Zeuclas, no. unless you don't tell us what exactly problem you have ;-) | 14:51 |
| Zeuclas | ^^ | 14:51 |
| Zeuclas | it's my network | 14:51 |
| Zeuclas | when i start crux it works just fine for about 20 sec... then it dies | 14:51 |
| bd2 | how that? | 14:51 |
| bd2 | computer burns? | 14:52 |
| Zeuclas | i wonder if i use the correct driver for it... | 14:52 |
| Zeuclas | i've had problems with it before.. i use the tulip driver | 14:53 |
| bd2 | what you mean by word "die"? is it turns off, or just stops accepting connections to it? | 14:53 |
| Zeuclas | well... it can't connect to other ip's | 14:54 |
| Zeuclas | ping doesn't work for example | 14:54 |
| bd2 | heh. seems like you're right then, it's kernel/driver problem. do you tried newer or older kernel version? | 14:54 |
| Zeuclas | kernel 2.6.15 | 14:55 |
| pitillo | Zeuclas, did you check logs? | 14:55 |
| Zeuclas | which logs? | 14:55 |
| pitillo | Zeuclas, all system related logs. | 14:55 |
| Zeuclas | mhm | 14:55 |
| Zeuclas | it's kinda strange... cause when i do "lspci" it says that my nic is a DEC-Tulip compatible one... | 14:59 |
| Zeuclas | and i think that means that i should use the tulip driver. | 14:59 |
| Zeuclas | pitillo, the only log i find the mention of tulip in doesn't contain any errors | 15:00 |
| treach | you should try upgrading, besides, iirc 2.6.15 has security issues as well. | 15:02 |
| bd2 | have you looked dmesg after it stop pinging things? | 15:02 |
| Zeuclas | no | 15:02 |
| Zeuclas | it says "0000:00:09.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed" . any hints? | 15:04 |
| Han | search google for that message | 15:04 |
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| tilman | bd2: git.code-monkey.de | 15:13 |
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| tilman | the url in the ports db is wrong because it cannot deal with rsync repositories correctly | 15:14 |
| tilman | we fake it ;0 | 15:14 |
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| bd2 | tilman, okay. Thanks for the repo | 15:18 |
| bd2 | ugh. damn fast clonning | 15:19 |
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| cptn | tilman: is it still wrong? | 15:26 |
| tilman | it says "code-monkey.de::crux-ports-x11r7" | 15:26 |
| cptn | would there be an http url? | 15:26 |
| tilman | http://git.code-monkey.de/?p=crux-ports-x11r7.git;a=summary | 15:27 |
| tilman | that one maybe | 15:27 |
| tilman | or maybe the "tree" link | 15:27 |
| cptn | ah yeah | 15:27 |
| tilman | i don't think it's that important | 15:27 |
| cptn | me neither; the .rsync file is there, and you can browse the ports on crux.nu | 15:28 |
| tilman | :) | 15:28 |
| cptn | but maybe we should just omit it for rsync repos | 15:28 |
| treach | ok, I give up.. how do I get pkgmk to accept something like "find ... -iname \*README\*" in a Pkgfile? | 15:28 |
| tilman | yeah | 15:28 |
| tilman | "*README*" | 15:29 |
| tilman | you don't want the shell to expand the * | 15:29 |
| treach | oh.. | 15:29 |
| treach | *bangs head on desk* | 15:29 |
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| Han | bktca? | 15:36 |
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| treach | meh, "find $PKG/somedir/ \( -iname "*foo*" -o -iname bar -o -iname bas -o -iname qux \) -print0 -delete" finally worked, but it caused such a mega-think, I think I might be better off with separate trawls instead... :-/ | 16:24 |
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| Han | treach, it looks like the parens and the -print0 option are not required | 17:20 |
| treach | No, I noticed that, I added the parens just in case since I had a lot of stupid errors in the beginning. I guess print0 just came from habit. :) | 17:23 |
| Han | ok :-( | 17:24 |
| Han | errr | 17:25 |
| Han | ok :-) | 17:25 |
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| nipuL | tilman: oops, i dont usually put contact details into ML chatter. I just keep them in .signature for when im communicating on an official level | 21:09 |
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| Romster | rxi_, there is a way to use the netgear DG632 in full bridge mode. i found the answer on whirlpool forums | 23:14 |
| Romster | by default bridge mode goes to half bridge mode... | 23:14 |
| Romster | and other than ya can't change the dsl's ip with firefox as it won't work... | 23:15 |
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