IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2006-11-08

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Hanopenssh-4.5 in my repo :-)00:15
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blizzdoes anyone know gobolinux?07:13
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copworkersounds interesting07:27
blizzack07:27
blizzthey also use funny colors on their website ;-) fyi, http://gobolinux.org/index.php07:28
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jdolaneww.07:52
Cheikhwhy is it almost impossible to install anything from the contrib ports because of signature mismatch do i have to do something to fix this?07:52
jdolanare they sourceforge projects?07:53
jdolanoften times download.sourceforge.net will send you HTML error pages instead of the source archive for a given package.07:53
jdolanit's a sourceforge bug.07:53
Cheikhnot sure07:53
Cheikhalso where does crux put the downloaded file for install if they fail i wanna get rid of them07:55
jdolanright in each port's directory, by default.07:55
deus_exCheikh: footprint or md5sum mismatch?07:55
Cheikhfootprint07:55
jdolana lot of people will edit /etc/pkgmk.conf and adjust PKGMK_SRC_DIR and PKGMK_PKG_DIR to something like /usr/ports/src and /usr/ports/pkg so that the port directories themselves each stay clean.07:56
jdolanoh, footprint is different.07:56
jdolanmd5 is often a consequence of dl.sf.net07:56
jdolanfootprint means you're probably missing some dependencies.07:56
deus_exCheikh: They are harmless, almost always.07:56
jdolan(or have extra things installed)07:56
jdolanMISSING you may want to pay attention to.  NEW, don't worry about.07:57
Cheikhbut it still says failed07:57
jdolanright.  well technically you didn't get the expected build result.07:57
jdolangtg07:57
Cheikhthat is hell confusing fail is fail succeed is succeed i see many missing bla bla ...07:59
deus_exCheikh: You have any example of footprint mismatch?08:00
Cheikhunfortunately not on this computer08:01
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deus_exCheikh: Ok. jdolan explained it very well, its not that confusing ;08:02
deus_ex;)08:03
Cheikhafter he did explain but i never knew what it meant in the first place again fail is fail in any language the message may have been more explicit08:04
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pitilloummm it´s explained at handbook and jdolan explain better one type of "fail"... then, the message is explicit if you read the handbook. May be is a good idea to put a link to the handbook at topic?08:37
deus_ex'read the handbook'. what's the fun in that?  ;)08:44
pitillofun for you or fun for me? :)08:49
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j^2hey guys09:15
teKhey you09:18
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AstonV12hello everybody...10:03
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AstonV12i'm a new CRUX fan having problems with x11r7...10:04
AstonV12when I startx i get: Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'. Any suggestion?10:05
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potato_graveyardAstonV12, look at what it says at the (EE) line10:06
AstonV12ok..it says AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable10:06
potato_graveyardyou might want to comment out DRI from your xorg.conf10:07
AstonV12than proceed saying: xkb_keycodes include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)10:07
potato_graveyardnormally in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:07
AstonV12ok..10:08
AstonV12let me try..10:08
jaegerAstonV12: did you upgrade from xorg 6.9.x? if so, did you save your xorg.conf from it?10:08
AstonV12I commented my DRI section but nothing different happened..10:09
potato_graveyardjaeger prolly knows more, he's one of the crux gods :)10:10
AstonV12no...I didn't upgrade..i just installed crux and than tryed to directly install X11r710:10
jaegerAstonV12: ok. do you have xorg-font-misc-misc installed?10:10
AstonV12let me check10:11
potato_graveyardjaeger ist ne Schande dass Umlaute sehr schwierig sind auf ner englischen Tastatur10:12
AstonV12yes..it is installed..10:12
AstonV12I installed all x11r7 dependencies just to be sure everything was fine..10:12
jaegertyping umlauts isn't too tough... but IRC nicks don't like them :)10:13
jaegeräöü etc.10:13
potato_graveyardcould be an entry for what fonts it uses10:13
potato_graveyardjaeger bin halt nur ein halbdeutscher im Ausland... vermisse den Schinken10:14
jaegerAstonV12: grep for fixed in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc perhaps? maybe you're missing a proper fonts.dir entry10:14
pitilloAstonV12, did you read tilman´s little guide to install x11r7?10:15
AstonV12yes...10:16
jaegeralso should be a fixed entry in fonts.alias10:16
AstonV12I've read sometimes the problem is a root only rw permission in fonts.alias10:18
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Romsterblizz, hmm gobolinux looks interesting, though i have my own ideas, and can see alot of code duplication unless ya use hardlinks on that distro.11:06
blizzright11:08
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_mavrick61I use one Linux server as pure backup.. 1.6 TB is there any type of filsystem which comress files in realtime. Using TAR take to long time.11:53
tilmanntfs, reiser411:53
tilmanneither is safe to recommend atm, i guess :D11:54
_mavrick61OK.. I use TAR now.. But make new TAR file is just one file have change since last time. Are there any other method to recommend..11:56
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tilmanmaybe someone should email vico and tell him that gtk 2.10 has been out for months12:04
tilman(footprint mismatches for his gtk theme engines...)12:05
RyoSi want viper to enable my freaking repo >_<12:05
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tilmanjaeger: can you enqueue a version bump for opt/gtk? it's getting a bit outdated ;p12:27
jaegersure12:30
Romster_mavrick61, take a look at lzma12:32
Romsteri've already done that on my pc bumped up gtk :)12:34
Romsterdunno if its my isp or not but my emails for the ML hadn't got sent12:35
Romster<crux@lists.crux.nu>: connect to lists.crux.nu[217.25.252.140]: Connection12:35
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mike_kRomster: 220 crux.nu ESMTP Postfix, works here12:39
tilmanmaro: tried libarchive 2.something.alpha yet?12:50
Romsterodd i resent and see what hapens if they bounce or not12:53
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jjpk:p13:18
marotilman: yep13:24
marotilman: failed to build, I guess because I'm missing libacl13:25
tilmann/m, already found out it's too fuckign broken13:25
marodidn't envestigate it further because of the 'a' in the version :)13:25
marotilman: tried bd2's pkgutils yet?13:26
tilmanno13:27
maroI've been using them for a week now (including full system rebuilds)13:27
marothe bugs found have been fixed, nothing to notice for the past days :)13:28
sepenjaeger, please can you check hal(opt) port? prt-get depinst thunar crash when I try to install it due to hal is not installed13:28
sepen$ findredundantdeps hal13:28
sepenRedundant deps for hal are: dbus13:28
jaegerif hal is not installed, how is that a problem with the hal port?13:28
jaegeror od you mean to say thunar *thinks* hal is not installed when it really is?13:29
jaegers/od/do/13:29
marotilman: http://borkware.net/~mark/pkgutils-c-1.2.tar.gz :)13:30
sepenthunar deps are: # Depends on:   intltool,shared-mime-info,desktop-file-utils,libexo,hal,libexif,libpcre , prt-get depinst must install it fine13:30
maro(or git://crux-arm.kmeaw.com/git/utils)13:30
tilmani know where to get it...13:30
tilmancptn: ping ping ping13:30
mike_kmaro: got md5sum signed by the author? =)13:30
maromike_k: nope, 1.2 isn't released yet13:31
marofirst autotooled release13:31
mike_kyou wanted to hack us by that exploit!13:31
sepenjaeger, thunar depends on hal, but seems that prt-get don't install it13:31
maromike_k: nope, I'm running X and my terminal has white letters13:32
marohackers use fullscreen terminals with green letters13:32
maro(I know from the movies)13:33
RyoS*hack hack*13:33
mike_kthat is a good proof, I am ok now13:33
jaegersepen: I need you to be more specific.13:33
jaegerif it's listed in the deps and prt-get depinst is used, it should be installed13:34
sepenjaeger, I think opt ports shouldn't have redundantdeps13:34
jaegernoted13:35
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sepenjaeger, another note: $ /etc/rc.d/dbus start13:48
sepenUnknown group "plugdev" in message bus configuration file13:48
sepenpre-install don't fix that!13:48
jaegerthe group isn't required13:49
jaegerit's used for things like the gnome volume manager auto-mounting, etc., but not a requirement13:49
sepenmmmm13:50
sepenmaybe you could add this to dbus/README file13:51
sepennow dbus running good .. thanks!13:51
jaegeradded to the list13:52
sepenthx 1more time13:53
pitillojaeger, at dbus readme can you check the useradd -n option... like in hal. (pre-install script has not the incompatible option but readme has it)14:03
jaegerok, will add that to the list14:05
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tilmantreach: libxmu issue fixed! \o/14:45
treachhehe, presumeably the stream of notifications will slow down now. :-)14:46
mike_kerr, anyone know why windowmaker is in attic?14:53
tilmantreach: yeah14:54
tilmanmike_k: because noone loves poor windowmaker :'(14:54
treachmike_k: No maintainer?14:54
treachtilman: iirc prologic does :-)14:54
mike_ktreach: Per14:54
treachper retired..14:54
mike_kI know14:54
treachquite a while ago, I may add.14:54
treachthus, no maintainer.14:55
mike_kgcc has the same Maintainer field though =)14:55
treachso has a few others. but I guess they are all a bit more critical than windowmaker.14:56
mike_kmay I put attic/windowmaker on the new contrib than?14:56
treachwhee, Now, I know TWO persons who use WM. :D14:56
mike_kI got used to openbox, but wanted something oldschool and sane14:57
treachFv.. oh, SANE... never mind.15:00
treach;)15:01
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mike_kI think there will be no objections if some software from attic will get support/maintenance in contrib...15:03
treachwell. Them being in the attic would be an indicator as good as any that the previous maintainer has stopped caring.15:05
treach*careing15:06
Viper_mike_k: of course you can adopt all ports from attic :)15:06
mike_kok, I've promised to look at ci's (former contrib member) ports to adopt some too15:08
RyoSViper_: hey ^^15:35
RyoSViper_: would you enable my httpup repo please?15:36
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will_Hmm... Maybe this is sorta an old question. Wasn't contrib merged into opt?15:47
mike_kno, it was not. Just changed from httpup repos to git loosing the most part of it on the way. http://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux/2006-November/006996.html15:50
treachfree peice of advice. don't dig in the crux history. it's getting complicated, and isn't *really* interesting anyway.15:56
treachno matter how hard you dig, there will be no evidence of wmd's anyway. :-)15:57
mike_kwhy not? a little bit messed up, but imagine crux on rulins of other 'pest practices' over some years15:58
mike_k*ruins15:58
will_Well, I was looking at the repo list and I saw contrib. Thought that was done away with.15:58
treachwell. The *old* contrib is dead.15:59
will_Replaced?15:59
treachyeah. the new one aspires on a bit more cooperation between different maintainers, among other things.16:00
treachmore rules, more red tape.16:00
will_heh16:00
will_That's a good thing though. Keep everyone on the same page.16:01
will_Where does one find attic?16:01
will_(which is what spawned my whole search)16:01
treachas long as it doesn't turn into debian..16:01
will_hehe16:01
treachwhere everyone assuredly is on the same page (in that respect), but otoh they never get off it either.16:01
treachhttp://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/repo/ATTIC/16:03
will_Thanks. Did I miss that on the repo page?16:03
will_Or is it one of those we shouldn't be digging in?16:04
will_Interesting. I thought it was a lot larger...16:04
treachhehe, it's matt's attic. :)16:05
will_ooh16:05
will_Wasn't there a much larger attic?16:05
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will_(I remembered finding stuff in there before)16:05
treachI think this is one of those points were stuff get complicated.16:07
will_heh16:11
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treachAs far as I can find out you access it via svn, which seems outdated.16:14
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treachmeh, we need to change name, google sometimes really get confused. :-/16:36
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treachI wonder how many distros where adding  -god to the search takes away about 6M hits.. :p16:38
Viper_RyoS: of course.. if you give me your httpup file :)16:46
Viper_or better: send a mail to viper@hometux.de16:48
Viper_with the url of your repo16:48
Viper_i will go now :)16:48
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prologichmm18:09
prologicyou know I'll take up windowmaker if it's in attic now :)18:09
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nipuLif wmaker's gone to the attic, what's taking it's place in 2.3?18:36
treachtwm. ;-)18:36
nipuLheh18:36
nipuLoh right, opt has grown a bit hasn't it18:37
treachyeah. If you think about it it didn't really make any sense to put wmaker in *core*..18:37
treachnevermind me.. I should go to sleep. I apparently already have my nightcap on.. :-/18:43
prologictwm can kiss my shiny metal ass :)18:48
treachofc, but if you don't like it there is a whole bunch of wm's in the ports..18:49
prologic;)18:49
prologicstill I'm gonna have to take up wmaker if it's been dropped :)18:49
treachbesides, I thought you were blind, not fully prostetizised(sp?). :P18:50
prologiclol18:51
prologictwm sucks for my vision impairment :)18:52
prologicI'm sure it can be tweaked, but I've spent years tweaking wmaker18:52
treachI'm not trying to rob you of it. :)18:55
treachheh, It's been so long since I did an installation that I've forgotten what's on the cd..18:57
prologicheh me too18:57
prologicI think I have a 2.1 cd around somewhere ;)18:57
prologickeep loosing my 2.2's18:57
treach"Crux, so good the gremlins wants it too" :D18:58
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telitiHello everyone. Does anyone knows wheres the "fixed" font?21:43
teliti(in which packet ..)21:43
rehabdollmisc-misc in 7.121:44
telitihmmm, I already installed this one ... but ... it still says there isnt ...21:44
telitivery strange ... I have installed EVERY font but theres no fixed ... anyway thank you rehabdoll21:50
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telitiHello again. I got it! it seems like as if mkfontdir hasn't been executed in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ ... just if theres another one who's asking one day ...22:21
telitiGood bye!22:22
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nipuLthe git port repos are empty except for a solitary README file, which doesnt give much information23:32
nipuL> less core/README23:33
nipuLAdd info about the core repository23:33
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nipuLah the master branch is empty23:34
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