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| eliteforce | hoi | 03:20 |
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| eliteforce | is it possible to build crux with uclibc? | 03:26 |
| mike_k | there was a project with such aim | 03:28 |
| mike_k | eliteforce: search google for "uCRUX" | 03:28 |
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| morlenxus | Someone here use the bootsplash patch? I have a question about the initrd file. | 08:44 |
| morlenxus | I already have an initrd file, is there a way to asign the bootsplash image with another parameter? | 08:44 |
| Han | Do you boot that often? :-) | 08:45 |
| morlenxus | Was that the answer? | 08:48 |
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| morlenxus | No, i'm working on an usb bootable system. | 08:48 |
| morlenxus | And it shouldn't show debug informations on default. | 08:49 |
| Han | Why are you so upset by my question? | 08:58 |
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| jaeger | morlenxus: from all the docs I've read you have to recreate the initrd to change the image | 09:23 |
| jaeger | I have not used it myself | 09:23 |
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| morlenxus | Han: sorry | 09:55 |
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| morlenxus | Or maybe someone does know a kernel argument to force loading the usb subsystem as one of the first steps? I have the problem that if the pc is powered off and i start the kernel has immediatly detected the sda1 device - when i just reset the pc it takes a bit more time and the kernel can't boot from the stick. | 09:56 |
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| mike_k | morlenxus: after ~ 2.6.13 you can append "rootdelay=8" | 10:00 |
| morlenxus | \o/ | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | You make my day! | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | Thanks a lot. | 10:01 |
| mike_k | np | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | If that works. | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | wow | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | Really, much much thanks. | 10:01 |
| morlenxus | :) | 10:01 |
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| j^2 | greetings | 10:11 |
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| namenlos | hi, is anyone using linux 2.6.19? | 10:58 |
| namenlos | somehow i can't find my usb stick | 10:58 |
| namenlos | i mean the device... | 10:59 |
| j^2 | nothing in /dev? | 11:00 |
| j^2 | do you have scsi support? for mass storage or something like that? | 11:00 |
| Han | is udevd running? | 11:00 |
| namenlos | j^2: yes, i got them both | 11:01 |
| namenlos | Han: 1009 ? 00:00:00 udevd | 11:01 |
| namenlos | Han: yes, it is running | 11:01 |
| Han | odd, umass works fine here. | 11:01 |
| namenlos | i got no sda* in my /dev... | 11:02 |
| thrice` | dmesg doesn't say anything when you plug it in ? | 11:02 |
| namenlos | thrice`: http://paste.lisp.org/display/32402 | 11:05 |
| namenlos | ah, is it /dev/uba then? | 11:06 |
| thrice` | uba1 perhaps ? | 11:06 |
| thrice` | dunno, try | 11:06 |
| namenlos | thrice`: was /dev/uba1. thanks a lot. didn't know that the system is updating dmesg after startup, too :( | 11:08 |
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| thrice` | sure thing. not sure why it's uba1, but I suppose if it works ;) | 11:11 |
| namenlos | on my xubuntu system it was still sda1... maybe this was one of the changes in 2.6.19. | 11:12 |
| jaeger | maybe that's why hal is completely broken on this machine | 11:13 |
| jaeger | 2.6.19, I mean | 11:13 |
| namenlos | hal = hardware abstraction layer? | 11:14 |
| jaeger | yeah | 11:17 |
| namenlos | unfortunately i got no idea about hal - i'm not so deepin into linux, yet. | 11:17 |
| thrice` | dunno, my usb stick is still sda* on 2.6.18 | 11:20 |
| onestep | hal is not needed | 11:36 |
| treach | I think gnome/kde might get pissy if you rob them of it. | 11:37 |
| onestep | i use KDE without hal :) | 11:37 |
| onestep | everything's fine | 11:38 |
| treach | ok, wasn't sure if kde *needed* it *yet*. :-) | 11:38 |
| Han | ~% l /dev/nvidia* | 11:39 |
| Han | crw-rw---- 1 root video 195, 0 2006-12-14 18:36 /dev/nvidia0 | 11:39 |
| Han | crw-rw---- 1 root video 195, 255 2006-12-14 18:36 /dev/nvidiactl | 11:39 |
| treach | yeah. Still listed as "optional". wonder when that will change. | 11:39 |
| Han | foo | 11:40 |
| onestep | did anyone test betas of kde4? | 11:41 |
| Han | That's the way to do it: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/crux/han/xorg-nvidia/post-install | 11:41 |
| treach | Not I. Got tired of building all that stuff on this fossile. | 11:42 |
| Han | Even though I got a blazing fast machine I still like minimal windowmanagers. | 11:43 |
| onestep | why fossile? | 11:43 |
| onestep | Han: xfce is really cute imho :) | 11:43 |
| Han | He's got an old computer. | 11:43 |
| Han | onestep, yes I got xfce in my repo as well. | 11:44 |
| Han | The latest snapshot. | 11:44 |
| treach | because it's old, and don't have nearly enough horsepower to build all that kde stuff within a reasonable timeframe, IMO. | 11:44 |
| thrice` | i like the new xfce alot | 11:44 |
| treach | s don't/doesn't | 11:44 |
| thrice` | Han: you're referring to 4.4 beta? | 11:44 |
| Han | yes | 11:44 |
| onestep | some time ago I've tried to build kde3 on my pentium-mmx 200 | 11:45 |
| thrice` | ah...yeah, i think that's getting very nice | 11:45 |
| onestep | :) | 11:45 |
| Han | it has got true transparancy support etc | 11:45 |
| Han | Anyway, I still stay with fluxbox. | 11:45 |
| treach | onestep: sounds like fun. | 11:45 |
| onestep | without xgl etc? | 11:46 |
| Han | with xgl | 11:46 |
| onestep | treach: I wasn't even able to finish build of qt :) | 11:46 |
| treach | I'm not surprised. | 11:46 |
| treach | maybe if you had a few gigs of swap.. :P | 11:46 |
| onestep | from that times I love xfce | 11:47 |
| onestep | and gtk | 11:47 |
| onestep | :) | 11:47 |
| treach | mh. Actually, the sad thing is that apart from the building part kde is probably a lot more effective than any alternative. | 11:47 |
| treach | (unless you cheat and go console apps exclusively.) | 11:48 |
| onestep | it's too hard for me to understand | 11:49 |
| onestep | english is not my native | 11:49 |
| treach | also: it uses less resources while running than an equal setup with gtk applications do. | 11:50 |
| treach | it's just the compling part that is inhuman. | 11:51 |
| onestep | yes. actually, pango use near a twice resources referring to qt's renderer | 11:51 |
| onestep | but... it renders with a higher quality | 11:52 |
| treach | Maybe, I've never noticed any difference. | 11:52 |
| onestep | try to compare mc in Konsole and gnome-terminal | 11:53 |
| onestep | ;) | 11:53 |
| thrice` | Han: couldn't you set the perms of the device from xorg.conf ? | 11:53 |
| tilman | onestep: got numbers to back up the pango vs qt rendering claim? :P | 11:54 |
| treach | onestep: to thanks. :) | 11:54 |
| treach | tilman: it stands to reason at least. | 11:54 |
| tilman | dunno, i'd find that very surprising | 11:54 |
| treach | pango does have something of a reputation as slow and bloated, while qt is used quite frequently in very limited environments.. | 11:55 |
| thrice` | http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2006/10/benchmarks.html | 11:55 |
| thrice` | **cough first hit on google** :) | 11:55 |
| treach | ? | 11:56 |
| onestep | hmm... | 11:56 |
| onestep | "Qt was respectively 7, 5 and 6 times faster." | 11:56 |
| tilman | and where does it say "pango" in zack's polygon rendering benchmark? | 11:57 |
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| onestep | I began to wonder :) | 11:57 |
| onestep | there is cairo | 11:57 |
| tilman | the benchmark where he tested qt vs cairo | 11:57 |
| onestep | which is used by pango for rendering | 11:57 |
| thrice` | I thought pango and cairo went hand in hand | 11:57 |
| tilman | i guess i'm the only one who read that article | 11:57 |
| treach | thrice`: and you're calling yourself an engineer? ;-) | 11:57 |
| tilman | it's NOT about font rendering | 11:57 |
| onestep | thrice`: you thought right | 11:57 |
| thrice` | mechanical, no software ;) | 11:57 |
| treach | you should be able to read charts anyway. :o) | 11:58 |
| thrice` | perhaps my understanding of pango is off | 11:58 |
| thrice` | it only does text ? | 11:58 |
| treach | thrice`: open source computing library for rendering internationalized texts in high quality, | 11:59 |
| treach | qoute from wp. ;-) | 11:59 |
| onestep | :D | 11:59 |
| thrice` | =\ my bad | 11:59 |
| treach | don't worry. | 11:59 |
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| tilman | cough first hit on whatever my ass | 11:59 |
| tilman | thanks for trying though | 12:00 |
| thrice` | hehe | 12:00 |
| Han | thrice`, Is that possible? How should that be done? I never heard of that method. | 12:00 |
| onestep | well.. c u later | 12:00 |
| onestep | bye | 12:00 |
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| thrice` | Han: not sure. I thought for an old ATI card you could set MODE "0660" | 12:00 |
| Han | I tried doing it with /etc/udev/rules.d/ but that is ignored. | 12:01 |
| thrice` | but perhaps that was only for access to OpenGL ICD | 12:02 |
| tilman | that applies to all ati drivers | 12:03 |
| tilman | because it applies to teh dri | 12:03 |
| tilman | which is used by all ati drivers | 12:03 |
| tilman | :> | 12:03 |
| thrice` | but not nvidia ? | 12:03 |
| tilman | nvidia doesn't use DRI | 12:03 |
| tilman | they use their own crap | 12:03 |
| thrice` | ah. i've never been privileged enough to own an nvidia card :) | 12:03 |
| tilman | i'd give you one of mine if you lived next door | 12:04 |
| Han | They work very nicely, but I still don't like having to use a closed source driver. | 12:05 |
| treach | heh, a "privilege" that last about as long as nvidia feels like supporting youc card.. | 12:05 |
| Han | your OS | 12:05 |
| treach | s youc/your | 12:05 |
| thrice` | yeah, my 9700 pro is still supported by fglrx, but i've found the OSS in modular xorg to be much easier | 12:05 |
| Han | The r is not even close to the c :o) | 12:05 |
| tilman | maybe not on your crappy keyboard layout | 12:06 |
| treach | Han: well. If you're editing what you're typing it might happen anyway.. ;) | 12:06 |
| Han | :-) | 12:07 |
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| thrice` | for some reason, my contrib is rsyncing to /usr/ports/contrib/contrib | 21:05 |
| thrice` | I am using: host=crux.nu; collection=ports/crux-2.2/contrib; destination=/usr/ports/contrib | 21:06 |
| thrice` | is something off ? | 21:06 |
| jaeger | collection=ports/crux-2.2/contrib/ | 21:07 |
| jaeger | the trailing slash is important for rsync | 21:07 |
| thrice` | oh, I see; thank you :) | 21:07 |
| jaeger | np | 21:07 |
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