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| pitillo | good morning, can anyone give some reason about the deptree of hal? we are thinking that, if there isn´t reasons to do a cycle, why can not be fixed? Talked to jaeger but said that isn´t important the redundant deps, but don´t understand why to keep them. | 04:37 |
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| pitillo | (sorry to bore again with this, but we don´t understand it) | 04:38 |
| sepen|work | I have this from hal port http://pastebin.ca/312894 | 04:45 |
| sepen|work | I think this kind of ports need to add a ticket on flyspray (imo) | 04:46 |
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| nipuL | automatically resolved dependencies in configure scripts are annoying | 04:55 |
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| pitillo | I dont understand it well, nipuL. Do you mean that isn´t necesary to resolve that? (deps are solved automatically) But, is that the only reason? I dont see the way to keep it, sorry. | 05:12 |
| nipuL | sorry, it was an unrelated rant | 05:19 |
| sepen|work | I think is less work modify the Pkgfile | 05:19 |
| nipuL | you're right it is a redundant dependency, it's not really a serious issue | 05:20 |
| nipuL | but generally they should be cleaned up | 05:20 |
| nipuL | email the maintainer | 05:20 |
| sepen|work | Also opt devels should use their own tools for verify ports (imo)= | 05:20 |
| sepen|work | nipuL, ins't the first time I commented out this | 05:20 |
| sepen|work | 3ops here (muted?) any opinion about this=? | 05:21 |
| nipuL | i believe crux 2.3 should include an overhaul of the dependency lists, if it hasn't already began | 05:21 |
| sepen|work | well, when will released? | 05:21 |
| nipuL | when it's ready | 05:21 |
| sepen|work | yeah! | 05:21 |
| sepen|work | xD | 05:21 |
| nipuL | again, there's no poing discussing redundant dependencies in the channel, email the maintainer | 05:22 |
| nipuL | keep in mind many of the developers maintain a large number of ports, sometimes little mistakes like this sneak through because they are not critical | 05:23 |
| pitillo | well, then there isn´t way to fix it. Jaeger said the same like you. It isn´t a serius issue and it will not fixed. | 05:23 |
| nipuL | you could copy the port into your private repo | 05:24 |
| nipuL | and fix it yourself | 05:24 |
| guaqua | or create a personal public repo with better (tm) ports ;) | 05:25 |
| sepen|work | you can't see the forest for the 'opt devels' ... | 05:28 |
| sepen|work | opt devels should use their own rules no? | 05:29 |
| nipuL | pitillo: well in this instance jaeger is the maintainer of hal | 05:30 |
| pitillo | nipuL, like I said, this isn´t the first time we talk and came to the same point. Well, using your tip and changing manually Pkgfiles... Thanks for your time. | 05:32 |
| pitillo | guaqua, nice point... the personal public repo can be done... but better (tm)? I doubt it with my little experience. Thanks for your point too. | 05:32 |
| namenlos | pitillo: what for example, if dbus-glib drops the dependency for dbus, but hal still calls some functions from dbus directly? | 05:40 |
| sepen|work | namenlos, http://pastebin.ca/312894 | 05:41 |
| namenlos | sepen|work: i saw this already. | 05:42 |
| sepen|work | ah! well, sorry I not understand | 05:43 |
| sepen|work | s/not/don't | 05:43 |
| namenlos | hal and dbus-glib both call some functions from dbus. | 05:44 |
| sepen|work | and ... | 05:44 |
| namenlos | in a future release dbus-glib drops the dependency for dbus, because the functions were refactored. | 05:44 |
| sepen|work | good! now! | 05:45 |
| pitillo | nice, that´s a reasonable reason. namenlos thanks | 05:45 |
| sepen|work | too thanks | 05:45 |
| namenlos | np ;) | 05:45 |
| tilman | do they rename to "dbus-foo", too? | 05:45 |
| tilman | because now clearly "dbus-glib" doesn't apply because it doesn't even USE glib | 05:45 |
| tilman | :> | 05:45 |
| sepen|work | but jaeger opinion I think isn't the same | 05:45 |
| namenlos | tilman: that was only an example :) | 05:46 |
| sepen|work | now we have a serious response about hal and redundant deps, thanks!! | 05:47 |
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| nipuL | #crux << ACTIVE >> created 5 years 50 weeks 2 | 06:25 |
| nipuL | days (13h 27m 53s) ago | 06:25 |
| nipuL | 12 days until #crux turns 6 | 06:25 |
| rxi | sounds like a good excuse for a online pissup | 06:42 |
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| nipuL | finally, we can all breath a sigh of relief, 2.6.19.2 kernel is out | 07:05 |
| nipuL | ext3 corruption is fixed....or is it.... | 07:05 |
| tilman | yes it is | 07:06 |
| tilman | 54e25b0460e6b1100e7ef9c0ac801bdce83921c0 | 07:06 |
| tilman | and it still isn't/wasn't ext3 specific | 07:06 |
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| deus_ex | Hm, I forgot how cool irssi is :) | 08:24 |
| namenlos | why? | 08:24 |
| deus_ex | I haven't used it for a while | 08:25 |
| deus_ex | xchat mostly. | 08:26 |
| namenlos | i use it mainly because the autojoins and completion | 08:26 |
| deus_ex | q:if I start it from console, using screen, can I detach/reattach to it when | 08:27 |
| deus_ex | I start xorg? | 08:27 |
| nipuL | sure | 08:27 |
| deus_ex | really? | 08:28 |
| RyoS | of course | 08:28 |
| RyoS | why not? | 08:28 |
| nipuL | i have my irc session on a remote server | 08:28 |
| nipuL | i use this command | 08:28 |
| tilman | that's the point | 08:28 |
| RyoS | nipuL: me too :) | 08:28 |
| deus_ex | I must read man page for screen, then. | 08:28 |
| tilman | me too, but i use irssi-proxy ;p | 08:28 |
| nipuL | ssh -Ct $HOST screen -OUdr || ssh -Ct $HOST screen -OU irssi | 08:28 |
| deus_ex | cool :) | 08:30 |
| aon | treach: yeah, done, just haven't committed yet :) | 08:34 |
| aon | left building when i went to bed last night | 08:35 |
| aon | treach: varsågod :) | 08:35 |
| deus_ex | 'screen irssi' to start it, 'C-a d ' to detach, 'screen -D -R ' to reattach.Close enough? | 08:43 |
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| deus_ex | brb | 08:45 |
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| deus_ex | that was easy :) | 08:48 |
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| j^2 | hey all | 09:05 |
| jjpk | hi j^2 | 09:05 |
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| treach | aon: Oh, ok. I though you just might have missed it. | 09:45 |
| aon | i usually run ck4up at least once per day :) | 09:45 |
| treach | ok. I'll remeber that. | 09:46 |
| aon | heh | 09:46 |
| nipuL | ugh, trying to play sound remotely, esd doesnt seem to work with mplayer anymore and nas is bogged down in X11R6 code, any ideas? | 09:47 |
| nipuL | as in alternatives | 09:47 |
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| treach | "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption". :D | 09:52 |
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| Romeo- | hello | 10:00 |
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| Romeo- | hou big are the basic install? | 10:42 |
| onestep | all installed core packages will take about 300 MB | 10:44 |
| Romeo- | also the base install like a server | 10:48 |
| Romeo- | lighttpd mysql php... | 10:48 |
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| j^2 | Romeo-: i've gotten those three installed and hit i think ~600mbs, but i didnt strip everything i could | 10:56 |
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| Romeo- | the main page are down | 11:37 |
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| rehabdoll | contrib/ntp url is broken | 13:47 |
| rehabdoll | also, "ntpd" is not included and there's no source | 13:47 |
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| Romeo- | hm | 14:10 |
| Romeo- | 2.6.15.6 don't support e100? | 14:10 |
| RyoS | you know 2.6.19.2 is out? | 14:12 |
| Romeo- | i'm talking whit the iso cd | 14:18 |
| jaeger | 2.6.15.6 should, the e100 cards are everywhere | 14:19 |
| Romeo- | i can't use it:) | 14:25 |
| jaeger | the official CD or the updated one? | 14:27 |
| Romeo- | 2.2 | 14:27 |
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| RyoS | Romeo-: the cd can't answer questions because it lacks having a mouth | 14:31 |
| acrux|ppc | j^2: please, can you add some op in #crux-ppc ? | 14:44 |
| j^2 | oh sorry | 14:44 |
| j^2 | i completely forgot :( | 14:44 |
| j^2 | i will in a bit | 14:44 |
| acrux|ppc | no problem | 14:44 |
| acrux|ppc | ;) | 14:44 |
| acrux|ppc | j^2: 'acrux' 'bisco' are registered nicks on freenode | 14:48 |
| acrux|ppc | so you can set those ones | 14:48 |
| acrux|ppc | i must go away | 14:48 |
| acrux|ppc | bye | 14:48 |
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| jaeger | new updated cd uploaded today | 15:56 |
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| Romeo- | where?:) | 15:58 |
| jaeger | http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/files/updated-crux-iso/ | 15:59 |
| Romeo- | tky | 16:00 |
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| Romeo- | sh: uncompress: command not found | 16:36 |
| Romeo- | for cs server:) | 16:36 |
| Romeo- | auf BSD läuft counterstrike nicht sauber | 16:43 |
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| nullpointer | hello | 19:59 |
| thrice` | hi | 20:00 |
| acrux | re | 20:02 |
| nullpointer | what's up? | 20:06 |
| treach | the celing. | 20:07 |
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