| *** pitillo has joined #crux | 00:05 | |
| *** jaeger has quit IRC | 00:08 | |
| *** predatorfreak has quit IRC | 00:10 | |
| *** thrice` has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** bd2 has joined #crux | 00:23 | |
| *** namenlos has joined #crux | 01:03 | |
| *** mrks has joined #crux | 01:20 | |
| *** seekwill has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| namenlos | postgresql 8.2.2 is out. | 01:44 |
|---|---|---|
| treach | post a bug about it or mail the maintainer. | 01:50 |
| treach | which in this case would be sip | 01:50 |
| *** sepen|work has joined #crux | 02:34 | |
| *** Roomster has joined #crux | 02:43 | |
| *** Romster has quit IRC | 02:56 | |
| namenlos | hehe, postgresql updated to version 8.2.3... what are those guys doing ;) | 03:00 |
| treach | "uh-oh, we screwed up"? | 03:00 |
| namenlos | hm, distrowatch says, there's a version of 8.2.3, but i can't find it... | 03:02 |
| bd2 | official site lists 8.2.1. forget about 8.2.x > 8.2.1 until announcment | 03:03 |
| namenlos | well... it's there... | 03:03 |
| treach | http://www.postgresql.org/ -> still lists .1 as the latest.. | 03:03 |
| namenlos | ok, but why don't they anounce it? btw the release notes for 8.2.2 are there... | 03:04 |
| treach | hush. it's a secret. | 03:05 |
| treach | or maybe just nobody got a round to do it yet. | 03:05 |
| *** jdolan_ has quit IRC | 03:15 | |
| treach | I think you could say that joke misfired. :/ | 03:17 |
| aon | heh | 03:25 |
| *** destruct_ has joined #Crux | 03:53 | |
| *** destruct_ has joined #Crux | 04:12 | |
| *** destruct_ has joined #Crux | 04:15 | |
| *** mrks has left #crux | 04:27 | |
| *** mrks has joined #crux | 04:32 | |
| *** jdolan_ has joined #crux | 04:40 | |
| *** onestep has joined #crux | 04:48 | |
| rehabdoll | distrowatch's "latest version" seems a bit too fast.. lists xorg 7.2 even though theres no announcement yet | 05:01 |
| *** cophome_ has joined #crux | 05:59 | |
| *** Roomster is now known as Romster | 06:05 | |
| *** the-ruediger has joined #crux | 06:05 | |
| *** cophome has quit IRC | 06:14 | |
| *** thrice` has joined #crux | 06:17 | |
| *** RedShift has joined #crux | 07:03 | |
| *** destruct_ has joined #Crux | 07:36 | |
| *** DaViruz has quit IRC | 07:50 | |
| *** destruct has quit IRC | 07:51 | |
| *** destruct_ has quit IRC | 07:54 | |
| *** DaViruz has joined #crux | 07:55 | |
| *** destruct has joined #Crux | 07:57 | |
| *** destruct has joined #Crux | 07:59 | |
| *** AkiraYuki has joined #crux | 08:01 | |
| AkiraYuki | hi all | 08:01 |
| RedShift | sup | 08:02 |
| jaakkop | hoi | 08:03 |
| aon | hi | 08:08 |
| *** jaeger has joined #crux | 08:08 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jaeger | 08:08 | |
| jaeger | morning | 08:09 |
| aon | morning jaeger | 08:09 |
| jaeger | someone just came in my office and asked me an electrical wiring question :) I'm a sysadmin, not an electrician, hehe | 08:13 |
| treach | just tell them to put a nail in it. :P | 08:14 |
| jaeger | heh | 08:14 |
| aon | hehe :) | 08:16 |
| RedShift | what was the question | 08:20 |
| aon | "can i run 100kW through this phone cable" | 08:22 |
| RedShift | sure! | 08:22 |
| namenlos | is there another possibility than :j to delete the "newline" at the end of a line in vim | 08:22 |
| * RedShift slowly backpedals | 08:22 | |
| namenlos | ? | 08:22 |
| treach | yes. | 08:23 |
| treach | but I keep forgetting it.. | 08:23 |
| aon | "backpedal - pedal backwards on a bicycle" | 08:23 |
| aon | damn, it's really cool to ride bikes that lack brakes but instead go backwards | 08:24 |
| aon | getting them to stop is a bit of a burden on the legs, though | 08:24 |
| treach | namenlos: :%s/^M$//g would do I think. | 08:24 |
| RedShift | namenlos: ewww go to the end of the line and press the "delete" key on your keyboard? | 08:24 |
| * aon falls into comprehensive school memories | 08:24 | |
| RedShift | stop? | 08:24 |
| RedShift | why stop | 08:24 |
| treach | namenlos: NOTE: Do NOT *type* "^M" | 08:25 |
| RedShift | just keep going | 08:25 |
| jaeger | RedShift: it was which of the wires in a 2-wire cable is positive (both unmarked) | 08:25 |
| treach | namenlos: just ctrl+v, ctrl+m | 08:25 |
| namenlos | treach: and how do i then get the "^M" ? with ctrl or ... | 08:25 |
| jaeger | if they were colored or marked, maybe I could tell :) | 08:25 |
| aon | :) | 08:25 |
| RedShift | jaeger: nothing a multimeter can't solve | 08:26 |
| treach | LOL | 08:26 |
| jaeger | aye, but neither of us had one handy | 08:26 |
| treach | vim actually has the command "help ffs" ;D | 08:26 |
| aon | if the negative happens to be ground, too, you can try touching something surely grounded with them and see if sparks fly | 08:26 |
| jaeger | treach: nice :) | 08:26 |
| aon | if there's enough kick in them | 08:26 |
| aon | i should become an electricity safety instructor or sth | 08:27 |
| namenlos | treach: it gives me a " | 08:29 |
| namenlos | ~ | 08:29 |
| RedShift | vim sucks | 08:29 |
| namenlos | treach: it gives me a "E486: Pattern not found: ^M$" | 08:29 |
| RedShift | use kate or some other normal editor like everyone else does | 08:29 |
| treach | RedShift: sure, if you can show me a way to use it in a terminal. | 08:29 |
| RedShift | eh | 08:30 |
| treach | and without installing kde. | 08:30 |
| RedShift | nano | 08:30 |
| RedShift | :D | 08:30 |
| treach | bah. | 08:30 |
| treach | also, show me how to use kate or anything like it, without *ever* having to use the rodent.. | 08:31 |
| RedShift | the rodent? | 08:31 |
| RedShift | what's a rodent | 08:31 |
| namenlos | its the mouse | 08:32 |
| namenlos | i think.. | 08:32 |
| namenlos | ;) | 08:32 |
| treach | group of animals that includes mice, rats, rabbits etc. | 08:32 |
| treach | generally considered to be pests. :p | 08:32 |
| namenlos | i think i stick to the :j thing... somehow the :s doesn't work for me | 08:33 |
| treach | namenlos: I guess you could find a few interesting things here http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=26 | 08:33 |
| namenlos | treach: ah, thanks. but i don't work in a mixed envirionment (but i'll keep it for the case a windows user comes along ;) ) | 08:36 |
| treach | well, how did you end up with those ^M's then? | 08:37 |
| treach | that's a typical symptom of a file edited in windows afaik.. | 08:37 |
| RedShift | treach: yes you can, everything can be done by keyboard shortcuts | 08:40 |
| namenlos | i was just wondering how to delete the end of line, since the visual mode always deleted one character too much... | 08:40 |
| namenlos | and the normal d doesn't work. | 08:41 |
| treach | ah. | 08:41 |
| treach | RedShift: not afaik. folding for instance? splitting windows vertically/horizontally? Managing these split windows? etc etc. | 08:47 |
| treach | anyway, even if it's possible, I'm not about to learn a new set of shortcuts. | 08:48 |
| treach | (and you still can't run a gui editor through a console.) | 08:48 |
| RedShift | ctrl shift l | 08:49 |
| RedShift | cltr shift r to close the current window | 08:49 |
| treach | I'm not trying to close the window. I'm changing the size.. | 08:49 |
| RedShift | oh | 08:50 |
| RedShift | changing the size no idea | 08:50 |
| RedShift | but if you're going for keyboard shortcuts don't use GTK apps | 08:50 |
| treach | don't worry, I'm not. | 08:51 |
| treach | only things that use gtk here is OOo, firefox and sylpheed. (and gkrell, but that doesn't require a lot of input) | 08:52 |
| treach | I wish I could dump OOo though.. but people seem dead set against using anything else but .doc files. :-/ | 08:53 |
| namenlos | same to mee | 08:55 |
| *** AkiraYuki has quit IRC | 08:56 | |
| namenlos | me, i meant... the best are the people which are sending images in a doc file :D | 08:56 |
| treach | sigh. those people should be kept away from computers. :/ | 08:57 |
| namenlos | the guy at the vim channel meant just using "J" *gg* | 08:59 |
| treach | RedShift: btw, how do I enter block mode in kate? ;> | 09:00 |
| RedShift | block mode? | 09:00 |
| treach | try it. | 09:00 |
| RedShift | what's block mode | 09:00 |
| RedShift | what is it supposed to do? | 09:00 |
| treach | makes you able to mark "blocks" of your code. | 09:01 |
| RedShift | so marking lines or something? | 09:01 |
| treach | ie, without having to mark the entire lines. | 09:01 |
| namenlos | you mean a rectangle? | 09:01 |
| treach | yeah. | 09:01 |
| RedShift | it does have block selection mode | 09:01 |
| namenlos | i never used something like that... | 09:01 |
| treach | namenlos: just enter ctrl+v | 09:02 |
| treach | and then move the cursor. | 09:02 |
| RedShift | treach: it has block selection mode | 09:02 |
| RedShift | ctrl shift b | 09:02 |
| namenlos | treach: heh, that's cool | 09:02 |
| RedShift | you can change all these shorcuts | 09:02 |
| treach | Color me impressed, but it's still to much work, and it's *still* a gui editor. :D | 09:03 |
| RedShift | have you tried it? | 09:04 |
| treach | Kate? | 09:04 |
| treach | sure. | 09:04 |
| RedShift | ok | 09:04 |
| treach | but in the end I came to the conclusion that it was a retarded idea to use a graphical application to edit pure text. | 09:05 |
| RedShift | I'm not really keen on those "terminal fanboys" :-) | 09:05 |
| treach | and the text wasn't more readable that way either. | 09:05 |
| jaeger | for maximum confusion, install beryl and edit your text in a GUI editor while wrapped around the corner of a cube | 09:05 |
| treach | :-) | 09:06 |
| treach | fvwm/ratpoison works well enough for me. :) | 09:06 |
| RedShift | kde ftw | 09:07 |
| treach | I mean, I *like* kde. But I don't need it. | 09:07 |
| namenlos | using fvwm, too | 09:07 |
| treach | It doesn't bring anything I actually need, and it takes forever to compile. So.. | 09:07 |
| treach | namenlos: ^5 ;) | 09:08 |
| jaeger | sky2 eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex, flow control both | 09:08 |
| jaeger | rawr! | 09:08 |
| jaeger | yay for new gigabit switch | 09:08 |
| treach | whee. and now for the pr0n :P | 09:09 |
| jaeger | nah, not at work :) | 09:09 |
| treach | j/k | 09:09 |
| *** j^2 has joined #crux | 09:13 | |
| j^2 | hola | 09:13 |
| *** j^2 has quit IRC | 09:15 | |
| *** j^2 has joined #crux | 09:15 | |
| *** jdolan__ has joined #crux | 09:20 | |
| *** laod__ has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| *** laod_ has joined #crux | 09:23 | |
| *** Romster has quit IRC | 09:37 | |
| *** treach has quit IRC | 09:41 | |
| *** jdolan__ has quit IRC | 10:04 | |
| *** jdolan__ has joined #crux | 10:04 | |
| *** namenlos has quit IRC | 10:11 | |
| j^2 | busy channel like always | 10:25 |
| aon | yes | 10:26 |
| cyrus_ | ;-p take a look about an hour ago ;) | 10:28 |
| cyrus_ | :) who would connect 100kW reciver to phone line ;) | 10:30 |
| aon | you never know | 10:44 |
| aon | and i guess it'd be a transmitter, then? :) | 10:44 |
| cyrus_ | I don't know indeed :D but I think phon line could not bear so intensive load | 10:48 |
| aon | yes, no | 10:58 |
| *** seekwill has joined #crux | 11:01 | |
| cophome_ | I was wondering if I should still use swap | 11:03 |
| cophome_ | on a 1Ghz Epia M board with 1024MB DDR ram | 11:04 |
| jaeger | what are you going to do with it? | 11:05 |
| cophome_ | just a samba, router, webserv, local linux station | 11:06 |
| cophome_ | the only wrong thoughts I am having that partitioning | 11:07 |
| jaeger | I would test it with a swap file on disk for a while and see if it gets used | 11:07 |
| cophome_ | you should be right | 11:07 |
| cyrus_ | cophome_: I wouldn't be so fast to turn swap off | 11:07 |
| cophome_ | I just didnt want to destroy the beauty of that 200GB disk | 11:08 |
| cophome_ | never had such a huge disk for myself :-) | 11:08 |
| jjpk | Taking 256 or 512 M out of that is nothing. | 11:08 |
| cyrus_ | cophome_: I have WD1600JB and about 1GB swap | 11:08 |
| cophome_ | Just didnt want to partition it | 11:09 |
| cyrus_ | cophome_: gosh .. ;p | 11:09 |
| cophome_ | But I think I ll try with file swap | 11:09 |
| jaeger | I don't use swap on this machine but it has 2GB RAM | 11:09 |
| cophome_ | Yes, I didnt use swap on some servers neither | 11:09 |
| cyrus_ | jaeger: And gcc have never out with sig 11? | 11:09 |
| jaeger | Swap: 2096472 0 2096472 | 11:10 |
| jaeger | not so far | 11:10 |
| jaeger | I run gnome, firefox, evolution, and cedega pretty regularly | 11:10 |
| cophome_ | nice | 11:10 |
| cyrus_ | It looks like no memory leaks :D | 11:10 |
| cyrus_ | but I have only 768MB RAM and it is enought for desktop configuration runs | 11:12 |
| jaeger | I'm sure I would need the swap if I only had 1GB RAM or less | 11:12 |
| cyrus_ | but no samba server ;D only apache for me :D | 11:13 |
| cyrus_ | cophome_: It would be lan server ? | 11:13 |
| cyrus_ | btw. we have no xmms2 port ? | 11:15 |
| cyrus_ | clear | 11:19 |
| cyrus_ | sorry :D | 11:19 |
| cyrus_ | I almost always forget about "/" | 11:19 |
| *** Viper_ has quit IRC | 11:20 | |
| *** cyrus_ has quit IRC | 11:20 | |
| *** Viper_ has joined #crux | 11:21 | |
| *** cyrus_ has joined #crux | 11:21 | |
| cyrus_ | did I say somethings wrong ? :D | 11:23 |
| jaeger | not that I'm aware of | 11:24 |
| cyrus_ | ;) uff... I felt very strang for a moment | 11:25 |
| *** cyrus_ has quit IRC | 11:46 | |
| *** cyrus has joined #crux | 11:51 | |
| j^2 | cyrus: have you checked the ports/db? | 11:53 |
| cyrus | j^2: yes | 12:02 |
| cyrus | j^2: on crux.nu :) | 12:02 |
| cyrus | j^2: there was only xmms but 1 | 12:02 |
| j^2 | i thought tilman was the pkg mgr | 12:02 |
| j^2 | oh | 12:03 |
| j^2 | hmm | 12:03 |
| j^2 | well you can make one :D | 12:03 |
| tilman | i'm not the pkg mgr! | 12:04 |
| tilman | no idea what that means, too | 12:04 |
| j^2 | package manager :D | 12:04 |
| aon | yes, you are the pkg mgr | 12:04 |
| aon | we replaced pkgutils with you | 12:04 |
| tilman | interesting | 12:04 |
| j^2 | hehe, inventive too | 12:04 |
| *** onestep has quit IRC | 12:05 | |
| cyrus | j^2: I just want to try it, so there is no need to xmms2 be among crux ports | 12:06 |
| j^2 | looks like it | 12:06 |
| tilman | rugek has an xmms2 port | 12:07 |
| j^2 | he's not ot the repo list :( | 12:07 |
| j^2 | s/ot/on | 12:07 |
| tilman | hum | 12:08 |
| *** ningo has joined #crux | 12:08 | |
| cyrus | tilman: Like i jus say :) I can cook my own port :D and this is beautiful in crux :D | 12:08 |
| jaeger | tagged gnome 2.16.2 if anyone cares | 12:12 |
| cyrus | btw. x7.2 and crux-2.3 will be public independent or together | 12:12 |
| cyrus | ? | 12:12 |
| tilman | err, "together" | 12:12 |
| cyrus | ;) | 12:14 |
| * cyrus goes eat something :D | 12:19 | |
| tilman | ok :D | 12:20 |
| cophome_ | cyrus: yes it will be a lan server | 12:27 |
| cophome_ | replacing my old celeron 400 box running suse 9.0 | 12:27 |
| thrice` | jaeger: very cool :) | 12:41 |
| thrice` | speaking of crux 2.3... ;) | 12:43 |
| tilman | orly? | 12:44 |
| guaqua | inet6 addr: 2002:82e9:175f:8:213:d4ff:fe5d:a1b6 | 12:44 |
| guaqua | can you ping this address? | 12:44 |
| tilman | i'm on ipv4 :( | 12:44 |
| guaqua | well so am i, but today i've been getting an ipv6 address :/ | 12:45 |
| tilman | o_O | 12:45 |
| RedShift | guaqua: from your ISP? | 12:45 |
| guaqua | so i'm guessing i've got native ipv6 nowadays | 12:45 |
| guaqua | yeah, from my isp i think | 12:45 |
| RedShift | nice | 12:45 |
| guaqua | this is a student village so :) | 12:45 |
| RedShift | oh | 12:45 |
| guaqua | but i haven't seen any announcements on the subject | 12:46 |
| RedShift | ah the local guru's are probably testing it out ;-) | 12:46 |
| guaqua | so i'm just asking if someone can ping me or do a quick traceroute to see if things actually work | 12:46 |
| RedShift | why don't you try reaching another ipv6 host? | 12:47 |
| guaqua | there's supposed to be a complete redesign of the network soon so this has something to do with it probably | 12:47 |
| RedShift | try 2001:6a8:3c80::14 | 12:48 |
| guaqua | works | 12:48 |
| RedShift | nice | 12:48 |
| RedShift | that's a DNS server from belgium | 12:48 |
| guaqua | though opera doesn't support ipv6 addresses :< | 12:49 |
| RedShift | so you have a fully operational ipv6 address/gateway | 12:49 |
| guaqua | i guess so | 12:49 |
| RedShift | opera doesn't support ipv6? | 12:49 |
| RedShift | crap I use that browser | 12:49 |
| RedShift | I had any influence on the whole internet management stuff we would be shitting ipv6 packets by now | 12:50 |
| RedShift | but noooo | 12:50 |
| jaeger | tried with square brackets around the url/ip? | 12:50 |
| guaqua | nope. jaeger | 12:51 |
| *** drijen has joined #crux | 13:07 | |
| drijen | has han been around? | 13:09 |
| thrice` | @seen han | 13:14 |
| clb | thrice`: han was last seen in #crux 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <Han> And since it's merely a comment I take the liberty to keep it like I want. | 13:14 |
| rehabdoll | guess he got really pissed | 13:15 |
| drijen | :(. | 13:16 |
| rehabdoll | he's online though | 13:16 |
| teK_ | why? | 13:16 |
| *** teK_ is now known as teK | 13:16 | |
| rehabdoll | there was a discussion regarding him leaving contrib | 13:17 |
| drijen | i didn't mean to start a ruckus | 13:17 |
| drijen | please ignore the question | 13:17 |
| *** DaViruz_ has joined #crux | 13:22 | |
| *** thrice` has quit IRC | 13:33 | |
| *** thrice` has joined #crux | 13:35 | |
| *** DaViruz has quit IRC | 13:39 | |
| tilman | wow, han really left? | 13:44 |
| tilman | guess crux is dead now | 13:44 |
| j^2 | :( | 13:44 |
| * j^2 get's his defibrillator | 13:44 | |
| j^2 | (just like james bond) | 13:44 |
| tilman | bond uses defibrillators? | 13:45 |
| j^2 | in the new bond... | 13:45 |
| j^2 | that was his only gadget | 13:45 |
| j^2 | it was lame | 13:45 |
| tilman | ah, didn't watch that one | 13:45 |
| j^2 | other than that it was great imo | 13:46 |
| DaViruz_ | you didn't miss anything | 13:46 |
| DaViruz_ | oh :) | 13:46 |
| tilman | ;) | 13:46 |
| pitillo | I am new here but imo he did a good job... | 13:48 |
| *** DaViruz_ is now known as DaViruz | 13:48 | |
| tilman | is his repo still online? | 13:48 |
| j^2 | x4all.net or something right? | 13:49 |
| pitillo | it seems tilman | 13:49 |
| tilman | j^2: something like that is his isp, yeah :D | 13:49 |
| j^2 | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/crux/han/ | 13:49 |
| j^2 | some one gank it! | 13:49 |
| tilman | gank? | 13:50 |
| j^2 | s/gank/steal|copy/ | 13:50 |
| cophome_ | hehe | 13:50 |
| tilman | o_o | 13:50 |
| cophome_ | what slang is that ? | 13:51 |
| j^2 | ....WoW/US | 13:51 |
| cophome_ | Hehe, okay ... i surrender | 13:51 |
| * j^2 puts an american flag in cophome_ | 13:52 | |
| j^2 | :P | 13:52 |
| * cophome_ feels ganked | 14:00 | |
| cophome_ | what kernel would you recommend ? | 14:01 |
| tilman | something recent | 14:02 |
| tilman | :D | 14:02 |
| cophome_ | how recent can I get without running into problems :) | 14:02 |
| jjpk | Just stick to the vanilla kernels, unless you specifically know you need something not included. | 14:02 |
| tilman | 2.6.19.2 works for me atm | 14:02 |
| cophome_ | finished my 2.6.16.5 right now for ethernet | 14:03 |
| cophome_ | after that I am up to kernel.org | 14:03 |
| cophome_ | just wanted some recommendations ;-) | 14:03 |
| teK | I'd take this shiny new .20 thingy | 14:03 |
| cophome_ | before wee~ | 14:03 |
| tilman | "shiny new" doesn't go THAT well with 2.6 imo | 14:04 |
| cophome_ | keke, okay .. i ll go with the polished .20 then | 14:04 |
| *** drijen has quit IRC | 14:12 | |
| *** thrice` has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| cophome_ | arghh, forgot to select reiserfs :-) | 14:28 |
| cophome_ | stupidity will never go unpunished | 14:28 |
| *** predatorfreak has joined #crux | 14:50 | |
| teK | as some might claim: s/select/deselect/ | 14:53 |
| cophome_ | he was german and a fembot killer | 14:57 |
| cophome_ | or was there and coming from suse thats still my juice | 14:58 |
| j^2 | o_O | 14:58 |
| *** vicool has joined #crux | 15:15 | |
| cophome_ | back on track .. updating ports ;-) | 15:15 |
| *** vicool has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| *** pitillo has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** seekwill has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** jdolan_ has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** thrice` has joined #crux | 16:01 | |
| *** seekwill has joined #crux | 16:01 | |
| *** jdolan_ has joined #crux | 16:01 | |
| *** AkiraYuki has joined #crux | 16:03 | |
| AkiraYuki | hi all | 16:04 |
| *** vico has joined #crux | 16:05 | |
| RedShift | sup AkiraYuki | 16:07 |
| *** RedShift has quit IRC | 16:13 | |
| *** acrux has joined #crux | 16:21 | |
| *** acrux has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** jaeger has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** acrux has joined #crux | 16:34 | |
| *** jaeger has joined #crux | 16:42 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jaeger | 16:42 | |
| *** cophome has joined #crux | 16:44 | |
| *** cophome_ has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| *** j^2 has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** tri has joined #crux | 17:14 | |
| *** pzpz has joined #crux | 17:29 | |
| *** pzpz_ has joined #crux | 18:02 | |
| *** pzpz has quit IRC | 18:11 | |
| tri | moin | 18:12 |
| *** ningo has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** AkiraYuki has quit IRC | 18:18 | |
| *** AkiraYuki has joined #crux | 18:18 | |
| prologic | moin | 18:27 |
| prologic | text editor in /bin needed <-- I don't agree with this defect report | 18:31 |
| prologic | Why should vi be in /bin/ ? | 18:31 |
| prologic | if you screw something up, boot the cd and fix it | 18:31 |
| tri | yes thats true - nobody needs a text editor in /bin | 18:32 |
| *** the-ruediger has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
| prologic | indeed | 18:40 |
| prologic | and if you're really desparate | 18:40 |
| prologic | ed and cat and sed work just fine | 18:40 |
| prologic | take your pick | 18:40 |
| bd2 | no, everybody need it. because otherwise you end up with `mv /usr/bin/* /bin/`, e.t.c. / partition should be enough to a) boot b) recover | 18:40 |
| prologic | eh ? | 18:42 |
| prologic | "no, everybody need it." ? <-- you agreeing or disagreeing with us :) ? | 18:42 |
| bd2 | disagreeing. I agree that /bin/vi is essential | 18:42 |
| prologic | well I don't :) | 18:43 |
| bd2 | but *I* do ;-) | 18:43 |
| prologic | /usr/bin/vim perhaps | 18:43 |
| prologic | fine fine :) | 18:43 |
| prologic | if you're smart enough to have a separate /usr partition, you should be smart enough not to screw it up :) | 18:44 |
| bd2 | /usr partition could be broken/not available at this time, e.t.c. But you should still have essential tools to recover things, imo | 18:45 |
| prologic | that's what the cd is for :) | 18:45 |
| prologic | and vim is hardly an essential tool - only a facny text editor :) | 18:45 |
| *** seekwill has quit IRC | 18:45 | |
| prologic | mkfs, fdisk, etc are essential | 18:45 |
| rehabdoll | text editors are not essential on a unix system? | 18:46 |
| bd2 | prologic, I'd like to see your face when your /usr is broken and you have to use `ed' to modify /etc/fstab or something ;-) | 18:47 |
| prologic | sure why not | 18:48 |
| rehabdoll | most distros have an editor in /bin.. and why not? cheap insurance if you b0rk something up | 18:48 |
| prologic | I've done it several times before | 18:48 |
| prologic | even with cat/sed :) | 18:48 |
| prologic | I've edited files blind - no monitor (and yes I am physically blind myself!) :) | 18:48 |
| bd2 | prologic, there are 1001 methods to edit file, but there is one which everybody can use comfortably: /bin/vi ;-) | 18:49 |
| rehabdoll | yeah well i guess you got one of them superhero-sed powers :) | 18:49 |
| prologic | yeah I just think if we should have any decent editor witha nice interface in /bin/ it should be e3 | 18:49 |
| prologic | not vim | 18:49 |
| rehabdoll | well vi or whatever.. just something useable | 18:49 |
| prologic | and actually you're not quite correct there | 18:49 |
| rehabdoll | vi is just my editor of choice | 18:49 |
| prologic | most users don't know how to use vim | 18:49 |
| prologic | mine too | 18:49 |
| prologic | but most others prefer something nano/pico like | 18:49 |
| prologic | rehabdoll, I just get bored and read man pages :) | 18:50 |
| rehabdoll | vi is the only "editor" in core though | 18:50 |
| prologic | installing crux on this HP so-called P3 is sooo painfull :/ | 18:50 |
| prologic | it's barely a P2 | 18:50 |
| * bd2 tried nano/pico once.. I could not find how to save a file %-( | 18:50 | |
| rehabdoll | :D | 18:51 |
| prologic | lol | 18:51 |
| prologic | ^O | 18:51 |
| prologic | :) | 18:51 |
| prologic | it says it at the bottom | 18:51 |
| cyrus | emacs rulez :p but it is too big to be a distro base editor :D | 18:51 |
| bd2 | oh.. I'm too lazy to read what editor says to me :-) in vim it's much easier ;-) | 18:51 |
| prologic | only because you know it :) | 18:52 |
| cyrus | btw. hi everybody ;) | 18:52 |
| rehabdoll | http://pics.obra.se/vi.jpg | 18:52 |
| prologic | yeah vim is too big to be in a distro's base too ihmo | 18:52 |
| bd2 | vim don't say anything (useful) to me, but *I* command vim ;-) | 18:52 |
| prologic | hi cyrus | 18:52 |
| *** cyrus is now known as cyrus_ | 18:52 | |
| prologic | $ pkgsize vim | 18:53 |
| prologic | Total kilobytes for vim : 17072 | 18:53 |
| prologic | way too big :) | 18:53 |
| cyrus_ | prologic: for emacs it would be 512Kb about :D with all lisp addons :D | 18:53 |
| prologic | yeah and e3 is 20K :) | 18:54 |
| cyrus_ | thoes precious 3K ;p | 18:54 |
| prologic | of course :) | 18:54 |
| prologic | why not! we have >400G hdds now, why not save an extra few K :) | 18:54 |
| prologic | fit more p0rn :) | 18:54 |
| cyrus_ | lol :p | 18:55 |
| bd2 | /bin/vim can happily live without /usr/share/vim , and vim itself is 1.2 Mb only | 18:55 |
| bd2 | mine /usr/share/vim == 24 Mb | 18:55 |
| prologic | I guess so | 18:55 |
| tri | but if you need vim just use the cdrom ? | 18:55 |
| prologic | sure why not :) | 18:55 |
| prologic | that's what it's for right! | 18:55 |
| bd2 | tri, I don't have cdrom | 18:55 |
| cyrus_ | bd2: wow :D Your vim keeps fit :D | 18:55 |
| bd2 | I've lost it | 18:55 |
| tri | floppy, usb, network what ever | 18:55 |
| prologic | actually most of my machines don't have cdroms either | 18:56 |
| bd2 | cyrus_ ;-) there are en&ru dictionaries also.. | 18:56 |
| cyrus_ | bd2: yeah, I know, perhaps they were even earlier than en&pl dictionaries :D | 18:58 |
| * cyrus_ laggs are so painful :/ | 19:00 | |
| cyrus_ | why ppp connections are so slow :/ | 19:00 |
| cyrus_ | ok, so I go sleep now :D after running prt-get sysup :D | 19:02 |
| *** _mavrick61 has quit IRC | 19:02 | |
| *** Dudde has quit IRC | 19:02 | |
| cyrus_ | so, see you :D and goodnight | 19:02 |
| *** _mavrick61 has joined #crux | 19:03 | |
| *** Dudde has joined #crux | 19:03 | |
| *** Romster has joined #crux | 19:06 | |
| prologic | ppp connections are not slow :) | 19:06 |
| prologic | I get 9MB/s on mine :) | 19:06 |
| *** jdolan__ has quit IRC | 19:06 | |
| rehabdoll | now thats just wrong | 19:12 |
| rehabdoll | only koreans are allowed to have faster connections than us scandinavians! | 19:12 |
| prologic | lol | 19:20 |
| prologic | actually I only have 2 DSL links | 19:20 |
| prologic | 24Mbps/1Mbps and a 512Kbps/128Kbps | 19:20 |
| tri | gn8 | 19:20 |
| prologic | but most machines on my local net are conencted via ppp to my gateway | 19:20 |
| tri | he and my dick is much longer | 19:20 |
| prologic | ;) | 19:21 |
| *** tri has left #crux | 19:21 | |
| *** pzpz has joined #crux | 19:23 | |
| *** pzpz_ has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| nipuL | anyone know how to use different remotes per branch | 20:23 |
| nipuL | ? | 20:23 |
| nipuL | with git | 20:23 |
| prologic | clone the repo per branch | 20:30 |
| *** cophome has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** cophome has joined #crux | 20:40 | |
| *** pzpz has quit IRC | 20:45 | |
| AkiraYuki | good night :-D | 20:45 |
| *** AkiraYuki has quit IRC | 20:45 | |
| *** vicool has joined #crux | 21:00 | |
| *** jdolan_ has quit IRC | 21:04 | |
| *** predatorfreak has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| *** vico has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| *** Viper_ has quit IRC | 21:29 | |
| *** laod has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
| *** laod has joined #crux | 21:33 | |
| *** laod has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** Viper_ has joined #crux | 21:42 | |
| *** _Viper_ has joined #crux | 21:49 | |
| *** Viper_ has quit IRC | 21:49 | |
| *** _Viper_ is now known as Viper_ | 21:49 | |
| *** cophome_ has joined #crux | 22:02 | |
| *** cophome has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| *** morlenxus has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
| *** morlenxus has joined #crux | 23:06 | |
| *** Falcon| has quit IRC | 23:16 | |
| *** Falcon| has joined #crux | 23:16 | |
| *** laod has joined #crux | 23:29 | |
| *** jdolan_ has joined #crux | 23:35 | |
| *** jaeger has quit IRC | 23:47 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.11.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
