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| guaqua | can someone give me a good reason to use dom instead of xpath for extracting information from xml file? | 03:08 |
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| guaqua | cos i'm being suggested to use dom, but for the selected task it probably yields twice as much code with twice as much clutter :( | 03:09 |
| namenlos | guaqua: maybe the performance... but i got no idea whether xpath would really be slower than dom... | 03:11 |
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| guaqua | in theory you can optimize your dom code for the specified task, but here it's not really something i have to consider | 03:12 |
| guaqua | well, i'm going to do it in xpath and then see how i can do the same thing with dom, if i have time | 03:13 |
| namenlos | may i ask which language you are using? | 03:14 |
| guaqua | java | 03:14 |
| namenlos | once i read a comment, that you should stick to write good programs, not to write fast programms, so this would be no problem ;) | 03:14 |
| guaqua | hmm... | 03:15 |
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| guaqua | it seems that the people i have to do this assignment for really like dom | 03:16 |
| guaqua | now that i read more instructions | 03:16 |
| guaqua | so i guess it's just a matter of banging your head to the wall | 03:16 |
| * treach considers redoing his primefinder in java to see the difference compared to C.. | 03:16 | |
| guaqua | why not do a c python module and then redo it in python? ;) | 03:17 |
| treach | prologic already did. | 03:17 |
| guaqua | urgh, okay | 03:17 |
| treach | I'm kind of interested in the reputed "slowness" of java. | 03:17 |
| guaqua | well | 03:17 |
| guaqua | it's not that slow | 03:17 |
| guaqua | way faster than native python | 03:18 |
| treach | guaqua: well, prologic had a different purpose. | 03:18 |
| treach | that's what I suspect at least. | 03:18 |
| guaqua | and also, java's main problem is it's fucked up memory management | 03:18 |
| treach | but it would be interesting to have some hard numbers. | 03:18 |
| guaqua | running a vm for a long time tends to hog up the memory | 03:19 |
| treach | aww, I though it did that right at the start.. | 03:19 |
| guaqua | it does that too | 03:20 |
| guaqua | but in the long run it doesn't free up any | 03:20 |
| treach | heh, I meant that it was done with that detail after starting up. | 03:20 |
| treach | which version of java are you using? | 03:20 |
| guaqua | so basically it might be good for a limited application server, but for a classical unix server it's like hell on heels | 03:20 |
| guaqua | 1.6.0 | 03:21 |
| treach | ok. | 03:21 |
| guaqua | i only have recent experience | 03:21 |
| guaqua | 27045 root 25 0 795m 149m 26m S 0.3 34.1 9:30.73 java | 03:22 |
| treach | :P | 03:22 |
| guaqua | that's jboss as running with no applications | 03:22 |
| guaqua | it takes up like 5 megabytes more every day | 03:22 |
| treach | :-/ | 03:22 |
| guaqua | i'm guessing the real users of java have clusters and they can kill one server every hour to get the memory back :D | 03:23 |
| guaqua | or at least make the use reasonable | 03:23 |
| guaqua | or then again, they don't really care as long as it works and as long as it's relatively easy to add more hardware and cluster nodes | 03:24 |
| guaqua | gtg | 03:27 |
| treach | cya | 03:27 |
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| prologic | treach, eh ? what's this about ? | 05:01 |
| prologic | I miss something ? | 05:01 |
| treach | not really. | 05:04 |
| treach | I just tested the primefinder in java. | 05:04 |
| prologic | ahh nevermind | 05:06 |
| prologic | read the logs :) | 05:06 |
| prologic | ahh | 05:06 |
| prologic | what's the difference in performance ? | 05:06 |
| treach | not that much, about 10%. | 05:06 |
| prologic | 10% slower ? | 05:06 |
| prologic | I'll try and write a java and python ver | 05:06 |
| prologic | and compare :) | 05:06 |
| treach | yeah, but if I don't know C, then there is no word for describing my lack of knowledge of java.. | 05:07 |
| prologic | hehe | 05:07 |
| prologic | I know java fairly well | 05:07 |
| prologic | I'll write some up in the morning | 05:07 |
| prologic | neways night :) | 05:07 |
| treach | good night prologic | 05:07 |
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| nipuL | !seen rxi | 05:24 |
| -MelOne- nipuL, you must introduce me to rxi one day, must be a great person! | 05:24 | |
| treach | "@" | 05:24 |
| nipuL | @seen rxi | 05:24 |
| clb | nipuL: rxi was last seen in #crux 1 week, 2 days, 10 hours, 25 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <rxi> i got me plenty of lovin | 05:24 |
| nipuL | haha | 05:25 |
| Romster | lol | 05:37 |
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| onestep | sonata 1.0.1 released | 08:33 |
| Romster | was about to say sqlite3 3.3.13 released | 08:36 |
| Romster | and no one has updated curl yet either... | 08:37 |
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| j^2 | hey all | 08:38 |
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| pitillo | good afternoon. I am a bit lost with this error building poppler (gnome dep) [ libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libXrender.la' ] This is a dev-computer and I do not know if I crash it using some public repo. Has anyone a clue? | 09:03 |
| rehabdoll | try a prt-get fsearch libXrender.la | 09:07 |
| pitillo | rehabdoll, tried... and did not find it... (thinking in yhafri repo which had it I think) | 09:08 |
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| pitillo | was yhafri ones (xrender). I will try with xorg repo.... Hard to find some clue in this computer (too many bad things done on it). I hope did not disturb with this Q. | 09:18 |
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| Romster | pitillo, too many bad things done, like? | 09:25 |
| pitillo | Romster, a dev machine... before crash my system... I prefered to make test there | 09:28 |
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| Romster | you crashed your system O_o | 09:29 |
| Romster | heh done that b4 but i've since fixed that. | 09:29 |
| pitillo | my weekend system :) without connection I tried to got it update.... | 09:31 |
| Romster | pitillo, your missing xorg-libxrender | 09:34 |
| pitillo | using x11 ... | 09:34 |
| pitillo | removed and adding xorg now | 09:34 |
| Romster | oh... | 09:35 |
| Romster | get on xorg already :/ | 09:35 |
| Romster | X11R6.8 is old | 09:35 |
| pitillo | :) | 09:35 |
| Romster | /usr/ports/yhafri/xrender probbly is the one for the old X11 | 09:36 |
| pitillo | diconnected computer and breaked with my manual repo configurations.... | 09:36 |
| Romster | why no net? | 09:36 |
| pitillo | yes, was that... Added, removed depinstalled poppler..... I did many test... and got the same | 09:36 |
| pitillo | it at beach.. and there is no connection ther | 09:37 |
| pitillo | s/ther/there | 09:37 |
| Romster | heh they dont have wifi? | 09:39 |
| pitillo | ummm not near :) | 09:40 |
| Romster | heh | 09:42 |
| Romster | there is thngs claled wifi hot spots :) | 09:42 |
| Romster | and i so can't type... | 09:42 |
| pitillo | xD | 09:42 |
| pitillo | yes I have one near a bus stop. used sometimes with laptops... | 09:42 |
| Romster | heh | 09:43 |
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| Romster | 03:47:03 up 19 days, 8:21, 2 users, load average: 64.70, 483.45, 547.82 | 10:43 |
| Romster | omfg | 10:43 |
| jaeger | that doesn't look like a happy system | 10:44 |
| Romster | now i seriosuly overloade my pc :/ | 10:45 |
| guaqua | seen loads over 600 :) | 10:47 |
| jaeger | anyone have a favorite linux SNES emulator to recommend? | 10:52 |
| tilman | i use(d) snes9x. zsnes would never work for me | 10:53 |
| tilman | heh, i even have a port for snes9x it seems o_O | 10:53 |
| jaeger | ok :) | 10:54 |
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| Romster | firefox when nuts and artsd was running like 100 instantes like wtf... | 11:09 |
| Romster | went* | 11:09 |
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| * drijen pokes the channel :) | 11:14 | |
| drijen | can someone help me understand why a package is not installing? | 11:16 |
| jaeger | what's the problem? | 11:16 |
| drijen | been trying to install eterm | 11:17 |
| drijen | but each time i try, it seems to not install at all, yet insist that it is :) | 11:17 |
| drijen | did it with prt-get first, then manually via pkgmk | 11:17 |
| drijen | both times, eterm would nto show in the file system anywhere but in the /usr/ports/XXX | 11:18 |
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| * drijen examines the pkgfile again | 11:20 | |
| guaqua | mm | 11:20 |
| guaqua | what does `pkgadd package` say? | 11:20 |
| * drijen tries | 11:20 | |
| drijen | "invalid package name" but i won't rule out user idiocy on that | 11:22 |
| guaqua | well go to the directory where you have the package made | 11:24 |
| drijen | have done so | 11:24 |
| drijen | actually i'm going to back up and download the source and do it by hand | 11:24 |
| drijen | just curious as to the hic-up | 11:25 |
| guaqua | err | 11:25 |
| guaqua | what does prt-get depinst eterm say? | 11:25 |
| treach | well, if there was something wrong with the download.. what about the md5sum? | 11:25 |
| drijen | it goes through the process, installs, then nothing | 11:25 |
| guaqua | mm | 11:26 |
| guaqua | go see the package database | 11:26 |
| drijen | treach: md5sum and footprint are a-ok | 11:26 |
| guaqua | look for it in there | 11:26 |
| treach | well | 11:26 |
| drijen | aye, i used han's | 11:26 |
| treach | then there shouldn't be any problem with the download. | 11:26 |
| drijen | when it screwed up, i used yhafri's | 11:26 |
| drijen | both the same | 11:26 |
| drijen | yhafri writes a better script btw XD | 11:26 |
| treach | ahem. Yafri is quite possibly a fine fellow, but I've seen a lot of people having problems with his ports. :-/ | 11:27 |
| drijen | *shrug* | 11:27 |
| drijen | <- noob. | 11:27 |
| tilman | yhafri/libiconv is a killer | 11:27 |
| tilman | :D | 11:27 |
| drijen | i simply found his easier to read, and with a little more thought put in for the options | 11:28 |
| treach | indeed | 11:28 |
| pitillo | tilman, I am with you.... | 11:28 |
| drijen | brb, nicotine break | 11:28 |
| drijen | thank you for the replies all - and its nice to be using crux again :) | 11:28 |
| treach | nice to see more people who can't stay away. :P | 11:29 |
| pitillo | drijen, .... are you lookinf for Eterm or eterm? :P | 11:29 |
| pitillo | s/lookinf/looking | 11:29 |
| drijen | eterm as in enlightenment terminal | 11:29 |
| drijen | like aterm/xterm/konsole etc | 11:30 |
| pitillo | take a look to footprint and search Eterm | 11:30 |
| tilman | port names are lowercase anyway | 11:30 |
| tilman | so wtf pitillo? | 11:30 |
| pitillo | yes, but no commands | 11:30 |
| tilman | oh, i see | 11:30 |
| drijen | @@ | 11:30 |
| clb | drijen: Error: "@" is not a valid command. | 11:30 |
| pitillo | may be he is trying to run eterm... | 11:30 |
| jaeger | sorry, had to go AFK, back now | 11:30 |
| pitillo | sorry my engliesh | 11:30 |
| jaeger | drijen: tried (after install) pkginfo -l eterm? | 11:30 |
| pitillo | :X | 11:30 |
| pitillo | (and my typing) | 11:31 |
| tilman | pitillo: no worries | 11:31 |
| drijen | gah, i just removed it | 11:31 |
| drijen | let me recompile again | 11:31 |
| treach | pitillo: you're no worse than our friend down under. ;) | 11:31 |
| pitillo | Trying to learn :) | 11:32 |
| drijen | <- also | 11:33 |
| drijen | compiling now | 11:33 |
| drijen | out for smoke, while i wait. | 11:33 |
| jaeger | @seen sip | 11:39 |
| clb | jaeger: sip was last seen in #crux 11 weeks, 3 days, 0 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <sip> Romster, what was the general advice? | 11:39 |
| drijen | pitillo: you sir, are correct | 11:40 |
| drijen | pitillo: its Eterm not 'eterm' | 11:40 |
| * treach wonders what's so attractive about {E,e}term.. | 11:41 | |
| drijen | aterm transparency was not working | 11:41 |
| pitillo | drijen, next time take a look to .footprint of ports, they can give you lot of info | 11:42 |
| drijen | pitillo: aye sir | 11:42 |
| treach | strange.. it works here.. | 11:42 |
| drijen | treach: it didn't like e17 for w/e reason | 11:42 |
| treach | ah.. | 11:42 |
| pitillo | what is w/e? | 11:43 |
| treach | Sadly, I don't think eterm will fare any better. | 11:43 |
| drijen | i'll figure it out | 11:43 |
| drijen | if others can make it work, so can i :) | 11:43 |
| drijen | bbl, thanks for the help | 11:43 |
| Romster | yeah where is sip? | 11:44 |
| tilman | treach: eterm can draw an outline around your text/fonts <3 | 11:44 |
| treach | yeah, I've noticed it has some fancy font handling, but IMO all that made was make the text harder to read. :-/ | 11:45 |
| drijen | treach: did you enable the bytecode interpeter? | 11:46 |
| drijen | makes fonts much better IMO | 11:46 |
| treach | yeah. | 11:46 |
| drijen | :) | 11:46 |
| treach | drijen: fonts are quite nice here, actually. | 11:46 |
| drijen | *sigh* | 11:47 |
| drijen | i like how i put my jacket on, then notice that thunar failed | 11:48 |
| drijen | XML::Parser... | 11:48 |
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| pitillo | drijen, with depinst? | 12:10 |
| treach | dammit, some people are scary.. http://www.menuetos.net/ | 12:10 |
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| drijen | pitillo: yeah, some perl thing | 12:19 |
| drijen | i'll deal with it in a bit, i'm tired as hell | 12:19 |
| treach | http://hem.bredband.net/treach/pictures/fvwm.png <- some nice looking fonts. :) | 12:22 |
| pitillo | can you paste all the error? | 12:22 |
| drijen | pitillo: god bless han, found a port for it | 12:23 |
| drijen | p5-xml-parser | 12:23 |
| treach | it's in opt as well. | 12:24 |
| drijen | a lot of this issue, is i have not built a system from base in quite awhile | 12:25 |
| drijen | so i've forgotten certain packages, and am therefore going top to bottom, instead of bottom to top | 12:25 |
| jaeger | treach: what terminal font do you use? | 12:26 |
| treach | terminus | 12:26 |
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| jaeger | looks pretty nice | 12:27 |
| treach | yeah. | 12:27 |
| treach | doesn't make you confuse 0 and O for instance. :P | 12:27 |
| drijen | when you're staring at a term for 24/7, it'd better :) | 12:27 |
| treach | also, I and l isn't quite identical. :) | 12:28 |
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| drijen | wb ningo | 12:28 |
| * treach wishes there was a capital punishment for using "l" as a name on a variable.. | 12:29 | |
| guaqua | i, j, k, l ;) | 12:29 |
| treach | use "n" instead of "l". | 12:29 |
| treach | or bloody anything, for that matter. | 12:30 |
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| jaeger | I need to find a better irssi theme for this font | 12:36 |
| drijen | china is going to hang a man for running a scam. | 12:37 |
| drijen | .. | 12:37 |
| treach | jaeger: IMO, "crap" works ok. :) | 12:37 |
| jaeger | that's actually the one I'm looking at on the site, hehe | 12:37 |
| ningo | drijen: heh, that rhymes | 12:38 |
| drijen | ningo: :-p | 12:38 |
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| drijen | anyone know of a good replacement for amarok, besides rhythmbox? | 12:40 |
| treach | cmus :> | 12:40 |
| ningo | mpd/mpc | 12:41 |
| drijen | thinking cmus too | 12:41 |
| drijen | mpd/emphasis is way too beta - doesn't even have a search function | 12:41 |
| ningo | emphasis? | 12:43 |
| drijen | e17's version of amarok | 12:43 |
| ningo | ah | 12:44 |
| ningo | I use ncmpc | 12:44 |
| drijen | i used cmus awhile back, that software is really well done | 12:44 |
| guaqua | why replace amarok? :) | 12:44 |
| drijen | guaqua: trying to avoid kdebase/kdelibs/qt | 12:45 |
| drijen | keep the system bloat down | 12:45 |
| tilman | "e17's version of amarok" o_O | 12:45 |
| tilman | i guess that's a pretty wrong description | 12:45 |
| treach | guaqua: because not all of us have crays. :> | 12:45 |
| guaqua | err? | 12:45 |
| drijen | treach: lol - i can do it, i'm just anal | 12:45 |
| guaqua | you are most likely running more powerful desktop than i am | 12:45 |
| drijen | tilman: yeah it has a ways to go | 12:45 |
| drijen | 3800+ X2, 1GB of ram | 12:46 |
| drijen | not uber. | 12:46 |
| treach | guaqua: oh yeah? | 12:46 |
| guaqua | i'd think so | 12:46 |
| * ningo runs screen | 12:46 | |
| * drijen runs ion on the lappy | 12:46 | |
| guaqua | i mean, duron 1600 mhz isn't exactly high end nowadays | 12:46 |
| drijen | pbbb | 12:47 |
| drijen | linux runs on a toaster | 12:47 |
| drijen | it must fly on that thing | 12:47 |
| ningo | bsd too :) | 12:47 |
| treach | drijen: well, building kde on it probably doesn't. :) | 12:47 |
| drijen | treach: lmao | 12:47 |
| treach | I dropped it mostly for the build time which I found absurd on this athlon 2500. | 12:48 |
| drijen | i like kde, and I absolutely adore konqueror | 12:48 |
| treach | way too much compiling for too little benefit, for my taste. | 12:49 |
| drijen | but really, day to day, mc and firefox can do most anything | 12:49 |
| drijen | or hell, mc and links -g | 12:49 |
| guaqua | that's a major reason i'm not running crux on desktop | 12:49 |
| guaqua | it doesn't limit my choice of desktop | 12:50 |
| treach | I don't feel limited. | 12:50 |
| drijen | same | 12:50 |
| drijen | if i wanted kde, i'd hit prt-get and go do hw for an hour or 2 | 12:50 |
| guaqua | feeling is different from being limited | 12:50 |
| drijen | or find my gf | 12:50 |
| treach | haha, now I'm being limited, I'm just not smart enough to realise it... | 12:51 |
| guaqua | we all are | 12:51 |
| drijen | guaqua: i can see your point | 12:51 |
| guaqua | i love kde, but also, i'm limited to apt-get | 12:52 |
| * drijen cries | 12:52 | |
| guaqua | though, i probably might try installing crux ports on this box :) | 12:52 |
| drijen | guaqua: fluxbox can't possible take that long | 12:53 |
| treach | I just don't see what I would actually *need* kde for. *shrug* | 12:53 |
| drijen | someone has been updating the iso too - prt-get sysup took me 15 min for 4 packages | 12:53 |
| guaqua | well | 12:53 |
| treach | it's nice, but I don't think I've ever done anything in it that I couldn't do in some other environment. | 12:53 |
| guaqua | dcop is cool | 12:53 |
| guaqua | and getting konqueror working with mouse gestures | 12:54 |
| treach | gah. | 12:54 |
| guaqua | all bells and whistles without a fight | 12:54 |
| drijen | konqueror's kio_slaves rock, IMO | 12:54 |
| treach | I hate mouse gestures.. | 12:54 |
| guaqua | drijen: kde kio_slaves :) | 12:54 |
| drijen | guaqua: sure, but konq is the best implementation ever | 12:54 |
| drijen | when i found out about fish:/ i about wet myself | 12:54 |
| guaqua | konqueror is by far the best tool for any file copying from one platform to another | 12:54 |
| guaqua | it's seamless | 12:55 |
| drijen | i like the plugins too, for mass moving files | 12:55 |
| guaqua | i use konqueror at school too... | 12:55 |
| treach | really cool stuff, but I don't really need it, sshfs and sitesync works just as well for my needs. | 12:55 |
| guaqua | really handy to copy whatever i feel like from home desktop | 12:55 |
| guaqua | and vice versa | 12:55 |
| drijen | treach: 95% of my files are images, so I can't use a lot of cli sometimes | 12:56 |
| drijen | i need to see what i am moving around | 12:56 |
| treach | I didn't say it was useless. | 12:56 |
| treach | I just said *I* don't need it. | 12:56 |
| drijen | i didn't either :) | 12:56 |
| drijen | man, e17 keeps surprising me with all the nifty stuff it does | 12:57 |
| treach | actually I prefer KDE in many ways, since it's a DE that actually integrates stuff, and DOES somthing. | 12:57 |
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| treach | as opposed to some other DE I could mention, which main function seems to be to waste RAM. :P | 12:57 |
| drijen | treach: lol | 12:58 |
| jaeger | you must be referring to ratpoison | 12:58 |
| drijen | *cough*aero*cough* | 12:58 |
| treach | sure am. :D | 12:58 |
| guaqua | well i might say the gnu attempt to create a DE is pretty crap too | 12:59 |
| guaqua | it's just not as usable | 12:59 |
| treach | jaeger: Not trying to start anything, but actually I find it a bit amusing that (the last time I checked) the clock applet in gnome took about 1/3 of the amount of RAM compared to my entire KDE session. :P | 12:59 |
| jaeger | gnome's a hog and you won't hear me say otherwise. I still use it :) | 13:00 |
| guaqua | btw, does someone here run beryl? | 13:00 |
| jaeger | guaqua: I do, sometimes | 13:00 |
| drijen | isn't that a fork? | 13:01 |
| guaqua | cos i've tried it and i'm not exactly sure if it's my graphics card that isn't supported or what | 13:01 |
| guaqua | because it's basically no luck | 13:01 |
| guaqua | or am i just dumb? | 13:01 |
| jaeger | it started that way, it used to be compiz-quinnstorm, as I understand it | 13:01 |
| treach | No, it's a deviation. There is a huge war about it, and I'm ... not giving a damned about. :P | 13:01 |
| treach | +it | 13:01 |
| drijen | i've seen some screenies - it looks innovative | 13:02 |
| jaeger | I think it's far enough removed at this point to have its own designation | 13:02 |
| jaeger | hrmm... might have to come up with my own irssi theme, don't really like any of them quite enough | 13:04 |
| guaqua | the default is the one i like :) | 13:06 |
| guaqua | i see it as perfect :D | 13:06 |
| jaeger | I like the default one pretty well but it seemed too uniform with terminus | 13:07 |
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| * drijen sighs and starts a kde compile | 13:36 | |
| drijen | can't argue with k3b and amarok :( | 13:37 |
| jaeger | probably don't need the whole suite for them | 13:37 |
| jaeger | (I use k3b with gnome) | 13:37 |
| drijen | nope, jsut base | 13:37 |
| drijen | keep it lean as possible | 13:37 |
| drijen | thats +60MB or so | 13:37 |
| drijen | still way under 1GB install :) | 13:37 |
| alancio | hey have you tried out gwenview? its a picture viewer for kde | 13:39 |
| drijen | yeah a long timea go | 13:40 |
| treach | still means building qt/kdelib/base/multimedia.. | 13:40 |
| drijen | i didn't like it, prefer imagemagick | 13:40 |
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| guaqua | compiz is mighty eyecandy | 13:44 |
| guaqua | i must say | 13:44 |
| * treach ponders wether to bother with metisse just to shut up the beryl/compiz hype. :P | 13:45 | |
| jaeger | you'll never shut everyone up about it :) | 13:46 |
| * drijen tried out the sun 3D desktop | 13:46 | |
| treach | jaeger: probably not. :/ | 13:47 |
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| alancio | guaqua: are you running compiz on your machine? | 13:53 |
| alancio | I tried to make a compiz port, but it was too hard | 13:53 |
| guaqua | now yes | 13:53 |
| alancio | did you build it yourself? | 13:53 |
| guaqua | this is ubuntu though :) | 13:53 |
| alancio | oh I see | 13:54 |
| alancio | the build process of compiz is a nightmare | 13:54 |
| jaeger | I think stjepan made compiz/xgl ports just recently | 13:54 |
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| alancio | drijen: try out recent gwenview, its awesome | 13:54 |
| alancio | drijen: its faster than imagemagick | 13:54 |
| drijen | alancio: cool, will do | 14:01 |
| alancio | I also installed kmplayer, and it has a kpart that works great with gwenview | 14:03 |
| alancio | its just a mplayer frontend, but I love mplayer | 14:04 |
| drijen | i really dislike most of the kde front ends | 14:07 |
| drijen | especially that one | 14:07 |
| drijen | i much prefer to use stock xine or stock mplayer | 14:07 |
| drijen | brb | 14:07 |
| alancio | ok | 14:08 |
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| drijen | actually i need a nap something terrible, i'll bbl after my exams | 14:16 |
| drijen | take care | 14:16 |
| alancio | ok bye! | 14:18 |
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| Romster | afternoon | 19:48 |
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| prologic | is there a 2.3 iso around ? | 19:53 |
| prologic | test or otherwise ? | 19:53 |
| thrice` | there was a test around, yes | 19:55 |
| prologic | got a url ? | 19:56 |
| thrice` | http://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux-devel/2006-December/002294.html | 19:57 |
| prologic | danke | 19:58 |
| prologic | what's the source iso for ? | 19:59 |
| thrice` | schoen ;) | 19:59 |
| thrice` | hm ? | 20:00 |
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| prologic | in ~sip/ | 20:01 |
| prologic | there is sources/ | 20:01 |
| prologic | and a source iso | 20:01 |
| thrice` | dunno | 20:02 |
| thrice` | xorg 7.2 finally released ;) | 20:08 |
| jaeger | sweet | 20:08 |
| thrice` | xorg 7.2 finally released ? | 20:09 |
| thrice` | oops | 20:09 |
| thrice` | was that a hold up for crux 2.3 ? | 20:09 |
| jaeger | curse you, getting me interested like that :P | 20:10 |
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| thrice` | heh | 20:10 |
| thrice` | no, it's out; I hit the up arrow on accident. The mac is dumb like that | 20:10 |
| jaeger | at this point I don't know if that's what's keeping it back, but I would like to see it in 2.3 | 20:10 |
| jaeger | bah | 20:10 |
| thrice` | ah. I tried the test iso out for 2.3, but that was months back, so I figured it'd be something trivial as xorg's mess | 20:12 |
| nipuL | and a 2.6.20+ kernel would be nice | 20:13 |
| nipuL | hehe, i accidentally hosed my crux64 ports, so i have to start all over again | 20:13 |
| jaeger | doh :( | 20:15 |
| prologic | I have to fix a bloody winxmp machine :/ | 20:16 |
| prologic | virused :/ | 20:16 |
| prologic | I'm so tempted to use your livecd jaeger, copy data to somewhere, and install crux :) | 20:17 |
| jaeger | heh | 20:18 |
| prologic | heh | 20:18 |
| prologic | I'm actualyl serious :) | 20:18 |
| jaeger | I believe you, but it's still funny | 20:19 |
| prologic | I hate windows these days :) | 20:20 |
| prologic | seriously I can't even fix this particular machine | 20:20 |
| prologic | and preserve windows | 20:20 |
| prologic | even if I tired | 20:20 |
| nipuL | i'm a pro at it | 20:20 |
| prologic | it has some virus that causes it to reboot instantly the moment windows tries to load | 20:20 |
| nipuL | the ammount of crapped out windows installations i've brought back to life | 20:21 |
| prologic | got a livecd handy that might remove the virus on it ? | 20:21 |
| prologic | or something | 20:22 |
| nipuL | hirens ftw | 20:22 |
| jaeger | knoppix has one as well | 20:22 |
| prologic | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiren.thanki/bootcd.html | 20:22 |
| prologic | that one ? | 20:22 |
| nipuL | yeah, it's slightly illegal so you'll need to get it from a torrent site | 20:23 |
| nipuL | a lot of the software on it isn't licensed | 20:23 |
| prologic | ahh | 20:23 |
| prologic | can ya find me the torren link please :) ? | 20:23 |
| prologic | install crux or just patch the machine up :) | 20:23 |
| prologic | hmmm :) | 20:23 |
| nipuL | do i look like your bitch? | 20:23 |
| prologic | heh | 20:24 |
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| prologic | k | 20:29 |
| prologic | I can't find it :) | 20:29 |
| Romster | prologic, ah not the blaster virus? | 20:33 |
| Romster | rpc remote procedure call has caused a falt in .... | 20:33 |
| Romster | fult* | 20:33 |
| Romster | argh fucken typing sucks.. | 20:33 |
| nipuL | prologic: you suck | 20:34 |
| nipuL | http://torrentspy.com/search?query=hiren&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 | 20:34 |
| prologic | thank you nipuL | 20:35 |
| prologic | yes I suck :) | 20:35 |
| nipuL | i guess that would make you MY bitch :) | 20:36 |
| jaeger | owned | 20:36 |
| jaeger | http://prologic.justgotowned.com/ ? | 20:37 |
| Romster | lol | 20:39 |
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| prologic | yes yes | 20:40 |
| prologic | let's all laugh at me :) | 20:40 |
| jaeger | don't worry, we've all spent plenty of time on the receiving end | 20:40 |
| prologic | heh | 20:40 |
| prologic | fscking torrent won't move :/ | 20:40 |
| prologic | either I don't know how to download torrents | 20:44 |
| prologic | or there are no seeds :/ | 20:44 |
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| Romster | hmm noting here either yet | 20:46 |
| Romster | all i get is invalid data from tracker... | 20:52 |
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| Romster | now that torrent is worksing prologic | 21:10 |
| Romster | probbly overloaded tracker. | 21:10 |
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| Romster | darn jaeger isn't around when i need him :/ | 23:45 |
| prologic | http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/wiki/2007/02/16/15.44 | 23:49 |
| prologic | If anyone ever says "Java is not that slow" again | 23:50 |
| prologic | I will shoot them :) | 23:50 |
| Romster | i dare you to redo it in D and see the speed :P | 23:51 |
| * Romster so hides now | 23:51 | |
| prologic | oh come on | 23:51 |
| prologic | don't be stupid :) | 23:51 |
| prologic | D compiles to machine code | 23:51 |
| Romster | probbly about the same as C | 23:51 |
| prologic | it will be slower than C | 23:51 |
| prologic | but faster than Python | 23:51 |
| Romster | :P | 23:51 |
| prologic | the overheads of the OO model it implements will slow it down | 23:52 |
| Romster | C compiles to machinecode too.. | 23:52 |
| prologic | no! | 23:52 |
| prologic | not the same as C! | 23:52 |
| prologic | C == machine code (just about) | 23:52 |
| Romster | hmmz that i didn't account for.. | 23:52 |
| prologic | C is about the lowest to the hardware you can get | 23:52 |
| Romster | so only better is ASM :/ | 23:52 |
| prologic | you want lower still use assembler | 23:52 |
| prologic | when I get back from my race tonight | 23:53 |
| prologic | I'll do you up a D one of the same algorithm | 23:53 |
| prologic | just to satify you P | 23:53 |
| prologic | neways | 23:53 |
| prologic | show that link to treach | 23:53 |
| prologic | he'll be interested | 23:53 |
| Romster | cool. | 23:53 |
| Romster | k | 23:53 |
| prologic | I gotta go | 23:53 |
| prologic | got a 60m, 100m and 200m race tonight | 23:53 |
| prologic | cyas later | 23:53 |
| prologic | btws our irc servers have ssl support them now (port 6697) | 23:54 |
| Romster | might wanna try ruby and perl on that comparsion? | 23:55 |
| prologic | no fuck that :) | 23:59 |
| prologic | disgusting languages :P | 23:59 |
| prologic | I like nice clean syntax | 23:59 |
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