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| pitillo | good morning | 01:55 |
| jjpk | hi pitillo | 01:55 |
| pitillo | :) | 01:56 |
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| caraca1 | Good morning everyone :) its 4:55 am here in wilkes barre pa usa | 04:00 |
| caraca1 | Im sure everyone is sleeping but i just wan't to share my view on why microsoft will never sue the gnu/linuc community. | 04:01 |
| caraca1 | If your not from the states then you may not no some very interesting facts about the us governement and how it uses gnu/linux. | 04:02 |
| caraca1 | Over the years i have bagered many people mostly people in the armed forces about what type's of computer systems they use and how they are used. | 04:04 |
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| caraca1 | And i have learned that in any government projects were the safety of the people depends on the stability, security of a system you will find open source. | 04:06 |
| caraca1 | For instance the us troops are useing a navigational system that allows commanders to keep track of the location of his/hers troops. | 04:07 |
| caraca1 | From my understanding not only does it track there locations but also there vital signs. | 04:08 |
| teK | well, I'm awake | 04:08 |
| caraca1 | And on this system you will find gnu/linux. | 04:08 |
| caraca1 | Good morning teK | 04:08 |
| caraca1 | :) | 04:08 |
| caraca1 | Now lets take a differant look were would you say nasa uses gnu/linux? | 04:09 |
| caraca1 | Ahh well ill tell ya that there entire command center and i do beleve the rovers use gnu/linux or is that the new rovers i cant remember. | 04:10 |
| caraca1 | Then you have the us navy you will find gnu/linux on all there defence systems. | 04:11 |
| caraca1 | You will only find windows on computers that are not important. | 04:11 |
| caraca1 | Now i could go on and on but i asure you microsoft being a 3 time covected monoplist. | 04:12 |
| caraca1 | Would never dare attack a system that is used so exstensively by the us government. | 04:13 |
| caraca1 | Even the us weather observatorys use gnu/linux and they are useing windowmaker for there desktop. | 04:14 |
| caraca1 | Ive seen them | 04:14 |
| tilman | teK: what's "laberflash" in english? ;) | 04:15 |
| caraca1 | Now as i said if the stability, security depends on saveing a life or if the satbility and security depends on loosing millions of dollars you will find gnu/linux. | 04:15 |
| caraca1 | laberflash did i say that? | 04:16 |
| caraca1 | I think that mean's someone who is babbeling. | 04:17 |
| tilman | yeah :D | 04:19 |
| caraca1 | A german slang word for someone who is babbeling | 04:19 |
| caraca1 | Why am i babbeling | 04:19 |
| caraca1 | :) | 04:19 |
| caraca1 | Bit me tilman you should be asleep. | 04:20 |
| caraca1 | Wie ungefähr, wenn ich Ihnen eine Geschichte über was ich erkläre und Ihre Mutter tat gestern Abend. | 04:21 |
| hidave | hrhrhr | 04:21 |
| caraca1 | :) | 04:21 |
| hidave | tat gestern abend was? | 04:21 |
| caraca1 | lol sorry im not even sure that came out right. | 04:22 |
| caraca1 | yesterday | 04:22 |
| hidave | yes gestern.. ? | 04:23 |
| caraca1 | Sie besagt mein Stichel war das größte, das sie überhaupt gesehen hatte! | 04:24 |
| hidave | hahaha good one ;) | 04:24 |
| caraca1 | Ok im done. | 04:24 |
| caraca1 | I tried to learn german once. | 04:26 |
| hidave | me2 | 04:26 |
| caraca1 | And it wasnt learning how to say the words that was hard it was the strucker on how you said thing and trying to not say english slang that had no meaning in german. | 04:27 |
| caraca1 | Because i find a lot of english is slang or a differant english word | 04:27 |
| caraca1 | or = for | 04:27 |
| tilman | since when does calling someone "babbling" call for "i fucked your mom"? | 04:28 |
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| caraca1 | :-P i was just playing | 04:28 |
| caraca1 | I am awake and in a good mood. | 04:29 |
| caraca1 | tilman are you an american? | 04:29 |
| hidave | are u on some cind of drugs? :) | 04:29 |
| caraca1 | Noooo i dont do drugs!!!! | 04:29 |
| caraca1 | Unless a porter every now and then is a drug. | 04:30 |
| tilman | i suspect you take a lsd ticket with your morning coffee | 04:30 |
| tilman | caraca1: i'm german | 04:31 |
| hidave | ha | 04:31 |
| caraca1 | No no i tried that when i was a kid but i constantly had bad trips. | 04:31 |
| rehabdoll | it looks like it had some lasting effects :) | 04:33 |
| caraca1 | Well here in the us you could say "Dude shutup your talking to much" and my responce might be "Ya last night your mom wispered the same thing in my ear" and then we would both laught. | 04:33 |
| caraca1 | Its the tone of your voice that makes the words good or bad. | 04:34 |
| guaqua | or you and your friends and your social class would do that. the others just to fit into the image of a cool guy | 04:34 |
| caraca1 | If your in school yes but the tone still makes a differance. | 04:35 |
| tilman | or i'd set you to +q | 04:35 |
| tilman | until you're sober ;) | 04:36 |
| caraca1 | If he said it with an angry tone then i would et the feeling of conflict but if it was in a happy tone then i would know he was jokeing. | 04:36 |
| caraca1 | +q ? | 04:36 |
| tilman | bye | 04:36 |
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| caraca1 | Hmm i wonder if i upset tilman? | 04:37 |
| caraca1 | Man im trying to setup a binary package repository for pkg-get and i can find any decent open source hosting that will take me on. | 04:40 |
| caraca1 | Id host them my self but id have to upgrade to a T1 and that would cost me like $300.00 | 04:42 |
| caraca1 | My isp provider offers internet hosting but its $499.95 for 19 gigs of space and 100 gigs of bandwidth | 04:44 |
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| sepen | ueaaaa! | 04:47 |
| sepen | irc --silent plz!! | 04:47 |
| sepen | xD | 04:47 |
| teK | who has a talking-flatrate for sure | 04:47 |
| teK | who = he | 04:48 |
| sepen | yea | 04:48 |
| rehabdoll | dear god | 04:48 |
| jjpk | throw out the lsd, crack and/or cocaine is his weapon of choice. | 04:49 |
| rehabdoll | i've never seen anyone with a worse case of diarrhoea of the mouth | 04:50 |
| rehabdoll | on irc.. :) | 04:50 |
| pitillo | xD | 04:50 |
| jjpk | I have known people who had difficulty *not* thinking out loud | 04:51 |
| jjpk | This case is just incredible :| | 04:52 |
| teK | I did not geht his point about (F)OSS in critical infrastructe | 04:55 |
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| sepen | bd2, are you here? | 06:06 |
| Romster | my god what the hell happend in here O_o caraca1 looks like a troll | 06:12 |
| sepen | I think he's a bot xDDDD | 06:13 |
| Romster | cheap form of advertising price of a isp? | 06:14 |
| Romster | :/ | 06:14 |
| jjpk | Nah, a severe case of speech diarrhea | 06:20 |
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| rehabdoll | http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/03/novell_launches.html | 06:30 |
| bd2 | hi sepen! | 06:31 |
| rxi | Romster: no darts tonight? | 06:32 |
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| Romster | thats on monday nights | 06:35 |
| Romster | its friday now | 06:35 |
| treach | I think I need a hobby. I feel like strangling people who just can't stop providing redundant information. :-/ | 06:38 |
| sepen | bd2, ported it! http://mikeux.dyndns.org:8000/crux/browser/branches/2.3/ports/portsearch | 06:39 |
| jjpk | rehabdoll: haha nice | 06:40 |
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| rehabdoll | http://www.isitfriday.net/ \o/ | 06:44 |
| raw | ok, I've tried booting the CRUX 2.3 cd on my Thinkpad T60, the kernel panics because it can't find the root partition (secondary master, /dev/hdc) | 06:45 |
| prologic | CRUX root=/dev/hdc | 06:46 |
| prologic | enter that at the lilo prompt | 06:46 |
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| guaqua | does someone know how crux is bootstrapped? | 06:47 |
| guaqua | is there a tool for it or a collection of scripts? | 06:47 |
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| raw_ | prologic: I did | 06:47 |
| pitillo | raw_, may be some kind of srX device? | 06:48 |
| prologic | then look for the line that says what device your cdrom is | 06:48 |
| rehabdoll | raw_: what kind of controller is the hd connected to? | 06:48 |
| prologic | and specify the correct root option | 06:48 |
| raw_ | The device doesn't exist in kernel-land, it's probably a missing driver. | 06:48 |
| guaqua | then you need a custom kernel \o/ | 06:48 |
| mike_k | guaqua: take a look at git/iso/Makefile | 06:49 |
| guaqua | thanks, mike_k :) | 06:49 |
| guaqua | i also have to learn how to use git then :S | 06:50 |
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| mike_k | not really: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=system/iso.git;a=tree | 06:50 |
| guaqua | well basically yes | 06:51 |
| guaqua | i have plans to implement a way to bootstrap crux into xen environment with one command | 06:51 |
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| Romster | rehabdoll, what a waste of a dns name :/ | 07:00 |
| rehabdoll | huh? | 07:04 |
| rehabdoll | oh | 07:04 |
| rehabdoll | hehe, it provides a useful function! :) | 07:04 |
| guaqua | there are many sites like that in finnish :) | 07:05 |
| Romster | heh | 07:05 |
| rehabdoll | coreutils 6.9 | 07:09 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | if anyone has an issue with binary software on the 7.2 xorg with xcb errors, downgrade xorg-libx11 to 1.0.3 to fix the issue | 08:27 |
| pitillo | binary software? | 08:28 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | games and such | 08:28 |
| pitillo | which game? (for example) | 08:28 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | Savage I know has the issue | 08:28 |
| pitillo | can not be ported? | 08:29 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | Savage is native on Linux | 08:29 |
| pitillo | then, why not port it instead of use the binary? | 08:29 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | but the newer xorg-libx11 1.1.1 breaks lots of software like this, check the the google :) lots of posts on Ubuntu about it and gentoo aswell | 08:30 |
| pitillo | but related directly to binary packages.... | 08:31 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | well, how do we go about porting a game that's already Linux native? and how do we get the source code for commercial software on Linux? | 08:32 |
| jjpk | Well, you don't. | 08:33 |
| jjpk | That's why you are supposed to pester the company until they fix it. | 08:33 |
| treach | or take out your hexeditor. :P | 08:33 |
| pitillo | dont know about comercial software on linux.. | 08:33 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | I just figured I would give the heads up on it though | 08:34 |
| pitillo | but there are games provided in binary packages that are ported | 08:34 |
| jaeger | ok, time to install 2.3 on this machine... back in a bit | 08:35 |
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| jjpk | In my experience with native linux ports of commercial games, they lag behind very often. | 08:37 |
| pitillo | (do not know if that can be usefull for that game) | 08:37 |
| jjpk | 1) you conform to their requirements or 2) annoy them until something gets done OR 3) give up when they tell you off :] | 08:38 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | well, WD and Uttar re the only two people that support Savage anymore on all platforms, I have been in direct contact with them | 08:38 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | they know about the issue with this game, but as Savage2 is just around the corner, there busy porting that one to Linux currently | 08:39 |
| treach | linux doesn't mix with closed source, that's just the way is. :/ | 08:39 |
| pitillo | seems interesting... | 08:39 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | well, I have about 75% of all games on tuxgmes.com and every game grom garagegames.com | 08:40 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | from* | 08:40 |
| pitillo | but in binary way or ported to CRUX? | 08:41 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | there all binary, with installers pitillo games made by idsoftware epic, bioware, s2games, there all commercial software | 08:41 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | LGP and Loki | 08:42 |
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| pitillo | may be I am in wrong or missunderstanding something. (taking a look to nwn) | 08:45 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | right, it's Linux native, it runs out of the box on Linux, just like all these other games without any emulation of any sort | 08:46 |
| pitillo | for example, did you take a look to nwn? it is a game and you need the original to play (I understand that is comercial software) It provides a installer for linux but there is a port to keep it in the CRUX way. | 08:47 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | well, since it is commercial software you can't just go into it's executable and change it, the one in the repo is just an installer, for crux, it doesn't change the game in any way | 08:48 |
| pitillo | is not the same that use directly the installer (you install lot of stuff and you can not keep track of files installed, this last sentence can be wrong, if there is a unistall script which search for that stuff to remove it, but you lose the CRUX way) | 08:48 |
| pitillo | I think it is a port to use that game with CRUX and using CRUX philosphy | 08:49 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | even if I made a Pkgfile for any of the games not in the repo, it would not fix the xorg-libx11 issue | 08:50 |
| pitillo | ok, nice point that. (thank you for that aclaration, I thought you can go without that problem using a port) | 08:51 |
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| pitillo | (I tried to port planeshift, made a few necesary ports wich installs lot of crap (I need to keep the sources for example) cg,cal3d,cs,cel and planshift) If anyone likes this kind of games and can give me a hand.... | 08:54 |
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| pitillo | next week I will let more time to it... Time to eat, bbl :) | 09:00 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | yeah, that's a cool game, I'll see what free time I have over the weekend to help out with it if ya like, I host the largest Savage server in the US though so that takes lots of my freetime though | 09:03 |
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| rezzie | anyone know any place to download crux 2.3 from http/ftp? it seems the ones on http://fredrik.obra.se/ is down... | 09:53 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | I'll get you a mirror link, one sec | 09:54 |
| pitillo | my repo down until monday :( (cpu fan crashed and temp is growing) | 09:57 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | http://www.mnkiespalace.com/world/crux-2.3/iso/ | 09:57 |
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| rezzie | ow, thank you | 09:58 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | np | 09:59 |
| pitillo | good weekend to all | 10:00 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | gotta like a quick image of the iso in less than 10seconds pulling it at over 4000k on bittorrent o.O | 10:01 |
| treach | well, considering the number of seeders.. | 10:02 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | for real | 10:02 |
| jjpk | There are a few fat pipes on those seeds, that's why you are getting good speeds. | 10:02 |
| treach | heh, 4000k isn't good. | 10:04 |
| treach | it's insane. :P | 10:04 |
| treach | or at least almost. | 10:04 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | I've uploaded 2700MB so far on the bittorrent | 10:04 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | from my server | 10:04 |
| treach | I'v stoped counting. it's closing in on 20 I think. | 10:05 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | ouch | 10:05 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | well, I typically have 700gigs free BW per month, figured I would use them for Crux :) | 10:06 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | the other 1.3TB goes for my Savage servers | 10:06 |
| treach | fortunately, I don't have any quota that I'm aware of. :P | 10:06 |
| * jaeger has none as well | 10:07 | |
| treach | well, that's not the same thing, is it? | 10:07 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | I can't afford to uncap mine :/ they want to much | 10:08 |
| jjpk | 499 torrent downloads \o/ | 10:09 |
| guaqua | i regularly download my kernels at 8 megabytes/sec from ftp.funet.fi :) | 10:09 |
| guaqua | 4 hops ;) | 10:10 |
| guaqua | average ping .5 ms | 10:10 |
| guaqua | or actually more like .4 | 10:11 |
| ningo | guaqua: you are the internet! | 10:11 |
| guaqua | i think so :D | 10:11 |
| guaqua | though i have to leave this apartment pretty soon | 10:11 |
| guaqua | and switch to a crappy dsl :< | 10:11 |
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| jjpk | Less speed but usually no bandwidth caps. | 10:15 |
| guaqua | dsl is generally better than cable | 10:17 |
| guaqua | i guess | 10:17 |
| jaeger | depends on your location | 10:18 |
| jjpk | Only problem in Finland is the miserable installation times with adsl. | 10:18 |
| jaeger | (well, that and a number of other factors including quality of provider) | 10:18 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | most cable places overload there nodes | 10:18 |
| guaqua | jjpk: cable is faster to get, yeah | 10:18 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | so DSL is typically more reliable in peak hours | 10:18 |
| jaeger | there's unfortunately only one DSL provider in my area and it's a bad one | 10:19 |
| jaeger | the cable has issues every now and then but is generally stable... so YMMV | 10:19 |
| jjpk | guaqua: true. I had a connection from htv/welho between 2003-2006 and it was on immediately after the contract was signed. | 10:20 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | my cable goes out 2 times a week atleast usually :/ the DSL is decent around here but I can't get it where I live | 10:21 |
| jjpk | It was a rollercoaster though. When it worked, it worked. | 10:21 |
| jjpk | Some others I knew said it always worked fine. | 10:22 |
| jjpk | Probably depends heavily where you live. | 10:23 |
| sepen | http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/xd-14638.jpg | 10:23 |
| guaqua | jjpk: also handy when you are moving... | 10:25 |
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| j^2 | http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html | 11:28 |
| j^2 | good god wwiii is starting | 11:28 |
| aon | lol | 11:28 |
| aon | that doesn't seem too bad | 11:29 |
| aon | after all, north korean diplomats were bitten by border control dogs here and that didn't start a war :) | 11:30 |
| j^2 | :) yeah but this is 15 military personal, it's 1978 or whatever year that teron thing happend | 11:31 |
| aon | what's teron? | 11:32 |
| jjpk | Not the first time uk soldiers were "abducted" by Iran. | 11:32 |
| j^2 | true, but it's the first time it's been reported on CNN | 11:33 |
| jjpk | You mean Tehran, not teron | 11:33 |
| j^2 | that i know of | 11:33 |
| treach | aon: american for "Teheran". | 11:33 |
| aon | that crosssed my mind... | 11:33 |
| j^2 | ...i didnt know Iran...i walked :P | 11:33 |
| treach | aon: I guessed so. ;) | 11:33 |
| treach | "Teron, ya 'now were all thos tererists come from, ya 'now?" | 11:35 |
| aon | terrarrisuhm | 11:35 |
| treach | heh | 11:35 |
| jaeger | the war on terriers is never won | 11:35 |
| j^2 | :D | 11:36 |
| treach | haha | 11:36 |
| aon | :D | 11:37 |
| aon | sure, that's probably enough of a reason to start a war as some wars have been started without any apparent reason at all :) | 11:40 |
| aon | except *krhm*PROFIT | 11:41 |
| treach | well, there is just blind stupidity as well. | 11:41 |
| jaeger | as soon as we figure out how to profit FROM blind stupidity, we'll be rich | 11:42 |
| treach | I think we already did. unfortunatly they call it "scamming", and is not allowed to be performed by individuals. :/ | 11:43 |
| treach | on a political/corporate level it seems to be A-OK though. | 11:44 |
| jaeger | heh | 11:45 |
| aon | well, there's tv shopping, which is pretty much it | 11:45 |
| jaeger | true | 11:45 |
| treach | proprietary software == large scale scam. | 11:46 |
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| _mavrick61 | jaeger: Did you add the LSI driver in Crux 2.3 final? | 12:41 |
| jaeger | not yet, don | 12:42 |
| jaeger | don't have a build environment anywhere at the moment | 12:42 |
| jaeger | been upgrading my machines to 2.3 | 12:42 |
| _mavrick61 | I can test it here.. I have a spare machine just for testing VMWARE stuff.. | 12:43 |
| jaeger | if you're in a hurry you could always make a new kernel with that on a floppy image or something | 12:43 |
| jaeger | which version of vmware are you using, by the way? | 12:44 |
| _mavrick61 | VMW Server 1.0.2 | 12:53 |
| _mavrick61 | Latest released 28 FeB 07 | 12:53 |
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| thorsten | pricht hier jemand deutsch? | 12:56 |
| roberth | es ist lange | 12:56 |
| roberth | ein bisschen glaub' ich | 12:57 |
| j^2 | thorsten: also crux.de iirc | 12:57 |
| j^2 | #crux.du | 12:57 |
| j^2 | opps | 12:57 |
| j^2 | #crux.de | 12:57 |
| thorsten | habe ein problem beim gdm install | 12:57 |
| thorsten | ja da ist aber keiner | 12:57 |
| j^2 | ahh | 12:58 |
| aon | :( | 12:58 |
| aon | it's in the list tho, http://crux.nu/Main/IrcChannels | 12:58 |
| thorsten | ja ich weiß bin ja auch dort. | 12:58 |
| aon | ok | 12:58 |
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| _mavrick61 | I start my torrent with "HighWay experss" speed now for the Crux ISO. Limit to 100 Mbit. | 13:00 |
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| thorsten | who is a crux linux german forum? | 13:01 |
| dododestructor | anyone know when the 2.3 iso will be available for download via HTTP or FTP? | 13:03 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | http://www.mnkiespalace.com/world/crux-2.3/iso/ your more than welcome to use that | 13:07 |
| jjpk | forums are not people ;) | 13:08 |
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| dododestructor | MNKyDeth|AFK: thanks! | 13:09 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | np | 13:09 |
| _mavrick61 | You can use this FTP sr58.etta.nu User crux no pass. | 13:11 |
| thorsten | can you help me this on. http://paste.lisp.org/display/38581 | 13:11 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | edit your /etc/prtget.conf file, uncomment runscripts line and change no to yes then try again | 13:13 |
| thorsten | ok | 13:14 |
| destruct | or simple prt-get depinst gdm --install-scripts .. :) | 13:15 |
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| MNKyDeth|AFK | yeah, but I figured enabling it in the prt-get config would help in the long run :) | 13:15 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | prolly always best off using depinst instead of install aswell | 13:16 |
| Viper_ | somebody here who is running slim with xorg? | 13:26 |
| treach | I used to, how come? | 13:37 |
| Viper_ | do you still have this slim.conf? | 13:41 |
| treach | yes. | 13:41 |
| Viper_ | can you send it to me? | 13:41 |
| Viper_ | i've some problems with slim and xorg | 13:41 |
| treach | moment | 13:41 |
| Viper_ | -> viper (at) hometux.de | 13:42 |
| Viper_ | please :) | 13:42 |
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| treach | Viper_: wget http://hem.bredband.net/treach/slim.conf | 13:42 |
| Viper_ | ah that's even better | 13:42 |
| Viper_ | thanks | 13:42 |
| treach | np, good luck. | 13:43 |
| Viper_ | is this really Xorg? | 13:43 |
| treach | yes, it used claim so, at least.. | 13:43 |
| treach | I'm not sure I understand the question. | 13:44 |
| Viper_ | well i want to start Xorg by slim :) | 13:44 |
| treach | just put slim in your service array. | 13:44 |
| Viper_ | yes of course | 13:44 |
| Viper_ | slim starts xorg but i have many keymap problems | 13:45 |
| Viper_ | for example the alt keys are broken | 13:45 |
| Viper_ | it works when i am starting Xorg without slim | 13:45 |
| treach | oh, ok. I know nothing about that, I had no problems.. but otoh we don't use the same keymap. | 13:46 |
| Viper_ | well that's true but i also tried different ones | 13:46 |
| Viper_ | non worked | 13:46 |
| treach | :/ | 13:46 |
| Viper_ | thanks anyway :) | 13:46 |
| treach | no problem. | 13:46 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | try downgrading xorg-libx11 to 1.0.3 I beleive that was one of the xcb issues, but I could be wrong, ig it doesn't fix it, then just go back to the current 1.1.1 version | 13:48 |
| Viper_ | i will give it a try, thanks MNKyDeth :) | 13:49 |
| tilman | i disagree | 13:50 |
| tilman | xcb has nothing to do with xkb | 13:50 |
| Viper_ | lol i thought it was a typo :) | 13:51 |
| MNKyDeth|AFK | I undertand, it was a shot in the dark on my end, but with some of the people having xcb issues on other forums, they were losing keymaps aswell | 13:51 |
| tilman | i heavily doubt that losing keymaps has anything to do with xcb | 13:53 |
| tilman | but i'm too lazy to explain why | 13:53 |
| Viper_ | well i guess it's a problem of slim; without slim Xorg is working as expacted | 13:57 |
| treach | I haven't tried slim with 2.3, only with xorg on 2.2. | 14:02 |
| treach | that said, the only problem I had was that you couldn't stop it via the initscript. | 14:03 |
| Viper_ | i've no problems with that.. strange :) | 14:04 |
| treach | yeah. | 14:04 |
| treach | ok, time to get the laundry. :/ | 14:04 |
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| tilman | treach: is anything wrong with xorg/xorg-xlsfonts? | 14:08 |
| tilman | is 1.0.2 broken or something? | 14:08 |
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| tilman | did you see that new mozilla mascot? :D | 14:19 |
| tilman | <3 <3 <3 | 14:19 |
| treach | tilman: I guess not, just me being a bit confused. Too much going on at the same time. :P | 14:21 |
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| tilman | treach: :) | 14:41 |
| jkr | Ahoy | 14:44 |
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| rxi | god im so out of touch with the kernel :( | 17:54 |
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| jjpk | it's good practice to maintain your skills. | 18:05 |
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| rxi- | can someone put prompt in the default lilo config | 18:19 |
| jkr | Noooooooo! | 18:19 |
| jkr | Prompt sucks | 18:19 |
| rxi- | pfft | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | grub \o/ | 18:20 |
| jkr | Noone wants to press enter before booting | 18:20 |
| rxi- | id do | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | you dont have to | 18:20 |
| rxi- | since i dual boot | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | with prompt | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | err | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | im retarded | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | nevermind :) | 18:20 |
| rxi- | yes | 18:20 |
| rehabdoll | was thinking text | 18:20 |
| jkr | rxi-: Oh yeah, then put your 2nd OS in the default config, too | 18:21 |
| rxi- | yeah that might be good too | 18:21 |
| jkr | Best thing is if everybody sent all their boot configs in so we have an ultimate lilo default config that can boot every system | 18:22 |
| rxi- | sounds good to me | 18:22 |
| onestep | rehabdoll, grub is not the CRUX-way :) | 18:30 |
| onestep | too big, too complex bla-bla-bla... :) | 18:30 |
| jkr | True :) | 18:30 |
| onestep | btw, hi everyone! :) | 18:31 |
| jjpk | hi onestep | 18:31 |
| jkr | Hi onestep | 18:31 |
| onestep | I've tried to use ru_RU.utf8 today... | 18:32 |
| onestep | and finally discovered that utf8 is not the CRUX-way too | 18:32 |
| onestep | :) | 18:32 |
| * jjpk uses a full utf-8 system without problems | 18:33 | |
| onestep | jjpk, where do you run "start_unicode"? | 18:33 |
| onestep | err, "unicode_start" | 18:33 |
| jjpk | at the login console when I have the need to. | 18:33 |
| onestep | how do you check that you need this? :) | 18:34 |
| jjpk | The "little" amount of work I do at the console usually does not need utf-8 support. | 18:34 |
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| onestep | I experience problems while trying to run "su -l" | 18:34 |
| jjpk | For one, mutt will not show my mails correctly. | 18:34 |
| jkr | Use nail :) | 18:35 |
| jjpk | The default console font is not utf-8 enabled anyway. | 18:35 |
| onestep | so utf8 have many issues... its usage is problematic | 18:35 |
| jjpk | start_unicode changes the font to a utf-8 capable font. | 18:35 |
| onestep | jjpk, yes, but the console seems ugly with normal font and LANG="...utf8" | 18:36 |
| treach | what encoding you're using shouldn't affect your fonts.. | 18:37 |
| onestep | so I've thought that I must check for running X in my bash_profile... | 18:37 |
| onestep | if it's running - I don't have need to run unicode_start | 18:37 |
| onestep | but that's too complex too... :) | 18:39 |
| onestep | I'd better continue using ru_RU.koi8r | 18:39 |
| onestep | :) | 18:39 |
| onestep | at least I don't need to rebuilt my mc | 18:39 |
| onestep | ;) | 18:39 |
| jkr | Hrhr, mc still exists? | 18:39 |
| jjpk | Sure it does. | 18:39 |
| rehabdoll | utf8 is wonderful | 18:40 |
| treach | mc will probably never die. :) | 18:40 |
| onestep | mc is *simply* the best :) | 18:40 |
| rehabdoll | now if just everybody used it.. | 18:40 |
| jkr | Hehe | 18:40 |
| jjpk | It's a great tool, and its light. | 18:40 |
| jjpk | None of that konqueror or nautilus effect going :D | 18:40 |
| treach | at least not until the last ex dos user is dead. :> | 18:40 |
| onestep | treach, :) | 18:40 |
| jkr | It reminds me so much of norton commander that I thought it must have been died long time ago :) | 18:40 |
| jjpk | There is still hope, not like they would all get wiped out all of a sudden. | 18:41 |
| jkr | But what is it good for? | 18:41 |
| treach | jjpk: if you're a kde user, all is not lost, for there is Krusader, iirc. :P | 18:41 |
| jjpk | \o/ | 18:42 |
| jjpk | I don't use a desktop environment, but thanks for the tip. | 18:42 |
| onestep | Krusader disappointed me 2 times | 18:43 |
| onestep | 1. there is no Ctrl+O :) | 18:43 |
| rehabdoll | kde.. *brrrr* | 18:44 |
| jkr | ZSH never disappoints anyone :) | 18:44 |
| jjpk | You get easily disappointed ;) | 18:44 |
| onestep | 2. I can't say it that I don't want to store my file permissions | 18:44 |
| treach | jjpk: well, you're welcome, even if I used "you" in a general sense. | 18:44 |
| * onestep doesn't know, what's zsh... :) | 18:45 | |
| treach | I never understood the idea of creating a gui version of *commander. :/ | 18:45 |
| treach | gotta be one of the more useless gui-fications. | 18:46 |
| rxi- | can someone tell me what package owns /etc/rc.d/net? | 18:46 |
| jkr | onestep: A funky shell :) | 18:47 |
| onestep | pkginfo -o /etc/rc.d/net | 18:47 |
| jkr | rxi-: iproute2 | 18:47 |
| onestep | :) | 18:47 |
| rxi- | ta | 18:47 |
| rxi- | onestep: dont have access to a working crux system atmn | 18:47 |
| onestep | okay, I'll check it in my CRUX 2.2 now | 18:47 |
| rxi- | jkr already did | 18:48 |
| jjpk | I'm just loving this time of my life | 18:48 |
| jkr | I had to learn that yesterday :) | 18:48 |
| jjpk | Final stretch of business school and it is completely lagging behind... | 18:48 |
| jjpk | Supposed to be working on a "mini" thesis/project/whatever you want to call it. | 18:48 |
| onestep | rxi-, net-tools - etc/rc.d/net | 18:48 |
| jjpk | Just my luck, I get assigned a supervisor that is never available. | 18:49 |
| jkr | onestep: In 2.3 it's iproute2 | 18:49 |
| onestep | rxi-, iproute2 is in CRUX 2.3 | 18:49 |
| onestep | jkr, I know :) | 18:49 |
| jkr | Ok :) | 18:49 |
| onestep | I'm too lazy to upgrade... :) | 18:50 |
| jkr | Yup, I hadn't updated too if I had known what expected me :) | 18:50 |
| onestep | jkr, what's wrong? :) | 18:51 |
| jjpk | I probably will not upgrade for a few more weeks. | 18:51 |
| jkr | It's not really "wrong", it's just much compiling for not really much improvement | 18:52 |
| jjpk | Need to ensure my "thesis" is completed before I start to fuck my systems in upgrading. | 18:52 |
| jkr | revdep does a good job after upgrade, but it doesn't work for manually installed things | 18:53 |
| jkr | prt-get remove mc | 18:54 |
| jkr | D'oh | 18:54 |
| jjpk | So far I have never upgraded a crux release, I have done a clean installation every time. :p | 18:54 |
| jjpk | I will try the upgrade route this time though | 18:54 |
| jkr | Yup, I'll do that next time too | 18:54 |
| onestep | jjpk, me too :) | 18:55 |
| treach | installing crux is tedious, upgrading isn't fun either. :/ | 18:55 |
| treach | damned if you do... | 18:55 |
| jkr | Installing is easy and fun, upgrade sucks sometimes but all in all worked without long-term problems :) | 18:56 |
| jjpk | I have been thinking about creating working images of my systems. | 18:56 |
| jjpk | Too bad I don't have the necessary disk space for that :| | 18:56 |
| treach | jjpk: yeah it's just short time pains, thank $diety. | 18:57 |
| jkr | How much disk space can a CRUX installation need? :) | 18:57 |
| jjpk | treach: are you basing this on that crux review? :D | 18:57 |
| jkr | Mine is about 450M | 18:57 |
| treach | no.. | 18:57 |
| rxi- | jkr: dont know about fun | 18:57 |
| treach | it's called experience. | 18:57 |
| jjpk | treach: yeah, agreed about that. | 18:57 |
| jjpk | It's always been a day's worth of downtime upgrading from a clean install. | 18:57 |
| jjpk | Then getting everything back to how it was. oh joy... | 18:58 |
| treach | well, depends on how much stuff you have, I don't have all that much to fix. :) | 18:58 |
| onestep | installing crux is just a "find * -exec pkgadd -root /mnt {} \;" :) | 18:59 |
| treach | but the way upgraded libs break random apps during upgrades isn't that fun, even if the fix usually is trivial. | 18:59 |
| onestep | +some configuring, but that's pretty simple too :) | 18:59 |
| jkr | treach: That's what I meant about revedp | 19:00 |
| treach | true to some extent, but it's still a bit annoying. | 19:01 |
| jkr | It's a problem with source based distributions in general I guess | 19:01 |
| treach | aye. | 19:02 |
| treach | happily it makes up for it in the long run. :) | 19:02 |
| jaeger | it can be worked around if you really want to | 19:02 |
| jaeger | things like pkgsync, scripted installs, etc. | 19:02 |
| treach | nah, it's just short term as I said. | 19:03 |
| rxi- | *reboots and prays* | 19:04 |
| jjpk | rxi-: good luck | 19:04 |
| treach | hehe, if it had been the other .au delinquent it had been "rebbots and prys". :p | 19:05 |
| rxi- | lol which convict are you making fun of? | 19:05 |
| rxi- | jjpk: thanks looks like it did the trick | 19:06 |
| treach | well, that would be rather obvious, wouldn't it. :> | 19:06 |
| rxi- | i dunno we are all shit typers :P | 19:07 |
| rxi- | but im gunna guess Romster | 19:07 |
| jjpk | treach: lol | 19:07 |
| rehabdoll | its not a hard one to guess :) | 19:09 |
| rxi- | i think the delinquent bit gave it away | 19:09 |
| rxi- | intel gma isnt supported with xorg is it? | 19:11 |
| jkr | How do I fix perl modules that have been broken during the upgrade? | 19:11 |
| jjpk | re-install them? :p | 19:12 |
| jkr | With cpan? :) | 19:12 |
| treach | that's unsupported. ;) | 19:12 |
| jkr | use CPAN; &force(type => reinstall, grep { $_->{broken} } @modules) | 19:13 |
| jkr | :) | 19:13 |
| treach | I was thinking along the line of "CPAN is not a part of CRUX <insert favourite disclaimer>" ;) | 19:14 |
| treach | not that you couldn't do it with CPAN. | 19:14 |
| jkr | There are only about 5 modules in the ports, so how do I get the modules I need without CPAN? | 19:14 |
| treach | you make your own ports :) | 19:14 |
| jkr | Sure, plus 10000000... ports of the dependencies | 19:15 |
| treach | hehe, I never said it was easy. :D | 19:15 |
| jkr | I just need a way to find out which modules use binary libs that are broken | 19:15 |
| jkr | So I can rebuild them | 19:15 |
| rxi- | yay vista is working too .. really pulled this install out my arse | 19:16 |
| treach | TMI | 19:16 |
| jkr | Vista is not the really the CRUX way! :D | 19:16 |
| onestep | jkr, :D | 19:17 |
| onestep | I heard it requires 8 Gb of disk space, is it right? | 19:17 |
| rxi- | yeah something like that | 19:17 |
| rxi- | depends on which edition | 19:17 |
| jkr | You mean 8G RAM? | 19:17 |
| jkr | :D | 19:17 |
| onestep | I only have 2 Gb on my NTFS partition :) | 19:18 |
| onestep | jkr, 8G swap :) | 19:18 |
| jkr | I don't have a NTFS partition at all - does that mean I can't install Vista? :( | 19:18 |
| rxi- | treach: the vista or the arse bit? :P | 19:18 |
| treach | I only have 0GB ntfs. how will I manage!? /O\ | 19:18 |
| jjpk | tragedy. | 19:18 |
| rxi- | fat32 ftw :P | 19:18 |
| onestep | sure, fat32 rules :) | 19:18 |
| jkr | I have a 12G USB stick with FAT32, can I install Vista on it? | 19:19 |
| treach | rxi-: where you got vista from. we already suspected, but there was no need to confirm it. | 19:19 |
| treach | ;) | 19:19 |
| onestep | 12G USB stick... fantastic :) | 19:20 |
| jjpk | \o/ finally seeded about 1GB of crux 2.3 iso :D | 19:20 |
| treach | ahem,, "When I was a kid.." | 19:20 |
| jkr | Yeah - bought it from my christmas bonus :D | 19:20 |
| jjpk | I hate my connection | 19:20 |
| onestep | some time ago I was proud of my 2G... :) | 19:20 |
| treach | jjpk: well it's sligtly more than what I've managed - today. :) | 19:21 |
| jkr | ...among other similarly useless items | 19:21 |
| jjpk | I just decided to (ab)use the connection. I'm out of here in 5 weeks so whatever :> | 19:22 |
| treach | heh | 19:22 |
| jkr | Where are you going? | 19:23 |
| jkr | Oh | 19:23 |
| treach | from 360KB floppies to 12GB USB sticks.. dammit, I'm getting old. | 19:23 |
| jkr | You probably didn't mean "out of this channel" :) | 19:23 |
| jjpk | no :p | 19:24 |
| jjpk | yet another physical move, and still not sure where | 19:24 |
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| jjpk | Depends if I get any decent summer job or not. | 19:24 |
| jkr | Germany! ;) | 19:24 |
| treach | far side of the moon. | 19:24 |
| treach | ;) | 19:25 |
| jkr | We've good beer here :) | 19:25 |
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| jkr | You could ask tilman or tek for a room :) | 19:25 |
| jjpk | lol | 19:25 |
| treach | jkr: finns only drink koskenkorva ;) | 19:25 |
| jkr | They're students, so they would't care :) | 19:26 |
| jkr | treach: Is that a beer? | 19:26 |
| treach | no. | 19:26 |
| jkr | Fish soup? | 19:26 |
| treach | definitely not | 19:26 |
| jkr | Then I'm out of ideas | 19:26 |
| jjpk | haha. koskenkorva is a vodka spirit | 19:26 |
| jkr | Ah | 19:26 |
| jkr | We've vodka too | 19:27 |
| jkr | And we have Jaegermeister :D | 19:27 |
| jkr | And Obstler | 19:27 |
| jkr | And we have cheap wine like france, at least in Rheinland-Pfalz :) | 19:27 |
| jkr | And you can brew your own stuff as long as you don't sell it | 19:28 |
| jkr | And soon we'll have something no other country has yet | 19:29 |
| treach | he's a business school student, he's got to sell it. ;) | 19:29 |
| jkr | The BUNDESTROJANER! | 19:29 |
| jkr | :) | 19:29 |
| jkr | We've Bafoeg for students :) | 19:30 |
| jkr | You get money from the gov while you're studying | 19:30 |
| jkr | You have to pay some of the money back afterwards, though | 19:31 |
| jjpk | Thought you had to be a citizen before that works. | 19:31 |
| jkr | But you can go back to finnland before they get you :> | 19:31 |
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| jjpk | At least that is how it works in Finland :D | 19:31 |
| jjpk | :D | 19:31 |
| jjpk | Rip the system, nice | 19:31 |
| jkr | Don't know, I'm not a foreigner here and I'm not studying | 19:32 |
| treach | jjpk: I'm sure you'll get it if you apply in the right way ;) | 19:32 |
| jkr | But you might get support from the Sozialamt | 19:32 |
| jjpk | treach: certainly ;) | 19:32 |
| treach | just look mad, drive your morakniv (tm) in the desk and shout "Perkele!" | 19:32 |
| jkr | I'll get you some Lederhosen, so they won't realize that you're not german :> | 19:33 |
| jkr | What's perkele? | 19:33 |
| jjpk | a common curse word in finnish | 19:33 |
| jkr | Nice, gonna use that at work on monday :) | 19:33 |
| jjpk | it can mean many things. by itself it means devil/satan | 19:34 |
| treach | jkr: I'm swedish, we've got a lot of finns here, so we have some friendly bantering from time to time. Don't mind us. :) | 19:34 |
| jkr | Hehe, that'll do it | 19:34 |
| jkr | Since when does google provide a patent search? | 19:34 |
| jkr | Didn't see that before | 19:35 |
| treach | Don't use it, you'll owe tripple damages if they find out. ;) | 19:35 |
| jkr | Chicken Breeding Machine?! | 19:36 |
| jkr | http://www.google.com/patents?id=C9sbAAAAEBAJ&ie=ISO-8859-1 | 19:36 |
| jkr | Dog Toy | 19:38 |
| jkr | Damn | 19:38 |
| jkr | There are patents for the stupidiest shit | 19:38 |
| jjpk | Especially in America | 19:40 |
| jjpk | If you can afford, you can almost patent anything | 19:40 |
| jkr | Let's get a patent on "The CRUX way" :) | 19:41 |
| treach | it's a seriously fucked up system. | 19:41 |
| treach | everyone would probably gain from some russian submarine commander going nuts and sending a few nukes at the patent office. :/ | 19:42 |
| jjpk | Try bombing the entire judicial system... | 19:42 |
| treach | well. the patent system is particulary fucked up | 19:42 |
| jjpk | That I think is the worst offender | 19:43 |
| treach | since it long ago cesed to fullfill its original intent. | 19:43 |
| jkr | I bet there's a patent on "throwing bombs at official/government buildings" and they'll sue your asses afterwards | 19:43 |
| treach | ceased* | 19:43 |
| jjpk | jkr: maybe not, but someone will very likely sue for emotional distress | 19:44 |
| jjpk | Then there are the tort law fans. | 19:44 |
| jjpk | Negligence court cases, everyone wanting something for pain on made up problems it seems. | 19:45 |
| jkr | Hehe, sometimes I'm happy to live in germany | 19:45 |
| treach | patent holders should be charged under RICO. | 19:45 |
| treach | at least holders of software patents. | 19:45 |
| Romster | <treach> hehe, if it had been the other .au delinquent it had been "rebbots and prys". :p < pfft | 19:45 |
| jkr | :) | 19:46 |
| jkr | Hehe, recently read a cool news message about a funny case in germany | 19:46 |
| treach | Romster: "Nobody named and nobody forgotten". | 19:47 |
| jkr | A 14 y/o girl was getting drunk on a party with friends. They played a drinking game with a ball and she got the ball into her face or something, so she lost a tooth or two | 19:47 |
| treach | "ball"? | 19:47 |
| jkr | She then tried to sue her friend who organzied that party because of the pain | 19:47 |
| treach | croquet ball? | 19:47 |
| jkr | treach: That round thing you often use in sports | 19:48 |
| jkr | patent #151a2 :) | 19:48 |
| jjpk | There are many sports balls you know | 19:48 |
| jjpk | :D | 19:48 |
| treach | well, I doubt you'd lose teeth to a tennisball. | 19:48 |
| jkr | I don't know what kind of ball it was | 19:48 |
| treach | lol.. nothing like making someone lose their pace with irrelevant questions. :D | 19:49 |
| jkr | The funny thing about the whole story is that the judge dropped the case because it was so stupid and instead punished the girls parents because the girl got drunk with 14 years :) | 19:49 |
| jkr | Hmm, at least something like that, I'm not really sure anymore | 19:50 |
| jkr | All I'm sure about is that the drinking game was called fluffy ball :D | 19:51 |
| jkr | Gotta play that soon | 19:51 |
| jkr | Or was it flunky ball | 19:51 |
| treach | hm, some "fluffy" ball.. | 19:51 |
| treach | I hope I'll never get a "fluffy" german pillow or something. | 19:51 |
| rxi- | should have used a cricket ball | 19:52 |
| treach | heh | 19:52 |
| jkr | He, I remember a even more funny law story from USA | 19:53 |
| jjpk | Those do quite a lot of damage if one is inclined to do so. | 19:53 |
| jkr | Two 14 y/o kids had sex and they got both sued because of child abuse | 19:54 |
| jkr | That's sick, imo | 19:54 |
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| treach | http://www.party-games.org/partyspiel_nr21_Ballspiel.html | 19:55 |
| treach | doesn't sound like something that would give you a ball in the face. | 19:55 |
| jkr | That's the game I meant | 19:56 |
| jkr | Hmm | 19:56 |
| jkr | Gotte find that story again, I'm not sure anymore how exactly that happened | 19:56 |
| treach | some drunk idiot decided to throw the ball at the other team? | 19:56 |
| jkr | No, iirc it was her own fault | 20:00 |
| jkr | She was just too stupid | 20:00 |
| rxi- | shame it didnt knock more than her teeth out | 20:02 |
| jkr | Can't find it :( | 20:02 |
| treach | sleep.. | 20:03 |
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| jkr | Yeah, found it in the logs :D | 20:04 |
| jkr | http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/1frf-1.jpg | 20:04 |
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| jkr | The judge compared flunkyball with rugby and other dangerous games and said it's normal that you get hurt while playing it :) | 20:06 |
| jkr | The tooth was lost because she was drinking from a bottle when she got hit | 20:06 |
| rxi- | should have charged her with underage drinking | 20:08 |
| jkr | They did, afterwards, iirc | 20:09 |
| jkr | At least her parents where in trouble | 20:09 |
| rxi- | hehe good | 20:10 |
| jkr | *were | 20:10 |
| jkr | How do I get my funky radio player into contrib? | 20:18 |
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| jkr | Ahoy prologic | 20:52 |
| prologic | a 'hoy | 20:53 |
| prologic | OS: CRUX version 2.3 (Linux 2.6.20.1) | CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ (Running: 2400.312) | Memory: (Used/Total) 602MB/1964MB | Videocard: 0.0 VGA compatible controller (VIA Technologies, Inc. Unknown device 3230 (rev 11)) | Resolution: 1280x1024 | Uptime: 1:07,+users | ppp0: IN: 61.4 Mb OUT: 24.4Mb | 20:53 |
| prologic | :) | 20:53 |
| prologic | I am terribly disappointed with one thing though during upgrades | 20:53 |
| jkr | broken libs? :) | 20:53 |
| prologic | the broken packages that result and the often difficult task of finding which ones are broken, then recompiling those | 20:54 |
| prologic | then when something complex like xfce4 is broken | 20:54 |
| prologic | you have to prt-get deptree ... > foo, edit foo and recompile | 20:54 |
| jkr | revdep worked fine for the ports, the real problem is the manually compiled software and perl modules | 20:55 |
| prologic | in this case for 2.3 | 20:55 |
| prologic | it was a new expat library | 20:55 |
| prologic | which not all ports list as a dependency so it's hard to tell what you need to recompile | 20:55 |
| jkr | Yeah, expat caused a lot of problems for me too | 20:55 |
| prologic | only apr, neon, and a few others list expat | 20:55 |
| prologic | yeah | 20:55 |
| prologic | and what's worse is having to recompile just about all of xfce4 | 20:55 |
| Romster | theres quite a few issues like that | 20:56 |
| prologic | but not only that, I had to cut/edit it's deptree so I woudln't recompile all of xorg as well and half my system | 20:56 |
| Romster | but recompile everything is a safe bet | 20:56 |
| prologic | you shouldn't have to | 20:56 |
| jkr | Good thing I'm using only fluxbox which takes about 2 minutes to compile :) | 20:56 |
| prologic | this ain't gentoo :) | 20:56 |
| prologic | jkr, the revdep script in prt-utils ? | 20:56 |
| jkr | Yup | 20:56 |
| prologic | hmm | 20:57 |
| prologic | how'd you use it ? | 20:57 |
| jkr | Just type "revdep > deps; xargs prt-get -fr update < deps" | 20:57 |
| prologic | ahh | 20:57 |
| jkr | You better write the revdep output to a file, because it's damn slow | 20:57 |
| prologic | hmm | 20:58 |
| prologic | I didn't know this tool existed actually | 20:58 |
| jkr | You really don't want to run it twice :) | 20:58 |
| prologic | it _actually_ might solve the issues I'm talking about :) | 20:58 |
| jkr | Yup :) | 20:58 |
| prologic | hm nice | 20:58 |
| jkr | It finds missing libs by ldd'ing all binaries :) | 20:58 |
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| prologic | *nods* | 20:58 |
| prologic | I have such a script as well | 20:58 |
| jkr | At least the ones in the .footprints | 20:58 |
| prologic | getlibdeps | 20:58 |
| prologic | but revdep seems to be nicer :) | 20:58 |
| prologic | k good stuff | 20:59 |
| prologic | I take back what I said :) | 20:59 |
| prologic | just run revdep :) | 20:59 |
| jkr | Whatever you do, put the output in a file! ;) | 20:59 |
| prologic | *nods* | 20:59 |
| prologic | anyway | 20:59 |
| prologic | got most of my system back up :) | 20:59 |
| prologic | we'll see what else is broken by revdep's output | 20:59 |
| jkr | Whee, it amazes me everytime how small vorbis files are compared to mp3s :) | 21:03 |
| jkr | [jkr/boredom:.../Propagandhi]# compare-mp3-ogg | 21:03 |
| jkr | OGG: 138M total | 21:03 |
| jkr | MP3: 253M total | 21:03 |
| prologic | eh ? | 21:04 |
| jkr | ? | 21:05 |
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| prologic | hehe | 23:52 |
| prologic | thrice uses the MacIrssi :) | 23:53 |
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