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| rxi | hey Romster | 00:35 |
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| Romster | hi rxi jsut got back from walking the dogs | 01:59 |
| rxi | hows it hangin? | 02:00 |
| Romster | to the left :P | 02:06 |
| rxi | lol | 02:06 |
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| Romster | hmm ever since i've updated my ck4up.conf file i don't seem to get as many updates.. | 02:07 |
| Romster | quite warm today but there is a very blowly cool breeze | 02:11 |
| rxi | its nice here now | 02:11 |
| rxi | was pretty hot earlier | 02:12 |
| Romster | yeah its colled off a little. | 02:18 |
| Romster | cooled* | 02:18 |
| rxi | almost feel like going outside to do some gardening but feeling too lazy atm | 02:20 |
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| * rxi wonders why exim is in core | 02:29 | |
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| * Romster shrugs | 02:43 | |
| Romster | i cought a large miscitto looking insect and just looked now, nd find out its a crane fly | 02:43 |
| rxi | is it edible? :P | 02:44 |
| raw | with enough beer, everything is edible! | 02:51 |
| raw | as an aussie, you should know that | 02:51 |
| rxi | well you can never tell with those victorians | 02:52 |
| Romster | no lol | 02:52 |
| Romster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_fly | 02:53 |
| Romster | resembling giant mosquitoes | 02:53 |
| rxi | not much meat on him | 02:54 |
| raw | you need dragonflies agains mosquitoes | 02:55 |
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| JKnife | soo umm yeah.. there was a BIG speed increas when i went from my old 333mHz/i586 to a 2.2GHz | 03:18 |
| raw | who had though... | 03:18 |
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| JKnife | o.O no gnome? | 03:30 |
| rxi | http://crux.nu/Main/GnomePorts | 03:31 |
| raw | gnome is not the BASICS | 03:31 |
| JKnife | it also isn't listed on the ports page | 03:32 |
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| JKnife | like KDE, XFCE and many others are | 03:32 |
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| Romster | JKnife, lol what are you doing with a 233MHz :/ | 04:02 |
| Romster | there is gnome but its nto on the prots db | 04:02 |
| Romster | ports* | 04:02 |
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| JKnife | Romster: 333mHz and that was my old pc XD | 04:03 |
| Romster | lol ah | 04:04 |
| JKnife | you think KDE4 is gonna be any good? | 04:05 |
| Romster | i got a 486DX4 120MHz overdrive, 233 PII, 450MHz K6II, and the 2 that i got in service are 667MHz PIII and a 1,4GHz K7, wannna get a socket AM2 next. | 04:05 |
| Romster | who knows i use KDE alot. | 04:06 |
| Romster | still haven't got used to XFCE | 04:06 |
| JKnife | ahh this is a P4 2.2 GHz | 04:06 |
| Romster | and i don't think i wanan try gnome. | 04:06 |
| * JKnife <3 XFCE | 04:06 | |
| Romster | wanna* | 04:06 |
| JKnife | i like it =\ | 04:06 |
| Romster | i just can't get the hang of XFCE | 04:06 |
| rxi | Romster: of course you want gnome | 04:07 |
| JKnife | yeah.. it is different | 04:07 |
| Romster | maybe i need to spend more time in it | 04:07 |
| Romster | i want to get away from bloatware and KDE and Gnome is bloat | 04:07 |
| JKnife | but firefox can also be called bloat.. i look at it like this.. if your pc can run it and it feels right for you it isn't bloat | 04:08 |
| Romster | yeah i like firefox, it could be considered bloat, but i like the extensions i have on mine. | 04:09 |
| Romster | although i'd love to see firefox split up into smaller modules to remove stuff ya don't you. | 04:10 |
| Romster | ya don't use* | 04:10 |
| rxi | opera ftw | 04:10 |
| Romster | i use opera too but it don't haev extensions... | 04:10 |
| JKnife | galeon is my fav right now | 04:11 |
| rxi | i like all the little details that make opera | 04:12 |
| Romster | galeon ? | 04:12 |
| rxi | ui using mozilla coke | 04:13 |
| rxi | code* | 04:13 |
| JKnife | it is this light weight gnome web browser that uses gecko | 04:13 |
| Romster | ah | 04:13 |
| Romster | so same engine just a light interface. | 04:13 |
| Romster | hmm | 04:14 |
| JKnife | galeon.sf.net | 04:14 |
| rxi | yep | 04:14 |
| JKnife | my bad.. NGLayout engine o.O | 04:14 |
| Romster | why arn't it in the ports DB | 04:15 |
| JKnife | no one has made a port for it | 04:15 |
| JKnife | XD | 04:16 |
| JKnife | =\ it should be in the gnome ports | 04:16 |
| Romster | yeah oh hmm thats not on the db yet i keep telling jaguer to add the gnome repo... | 04:17 |
| JKnife | IIRC it used to be on the list =\ | 04:17 |
| Romster | used to be.. | 04:18 |
| Romster | $ find /usr/ports/gnome/ -name galeon | 04:18 |
| Romster | returns nothing.. | 04:18 |
| JKnife | well that is the ports section it SHOULD be in as galeon is a offical gnome project XD | 04:18 |
| Romster | and i got the recent gnome repo but i don't use it i just use it as a reference. | 04:18 |
| Romster | so no repo has that proggie.. | 04:19 |
| Romster | JKnife, have you made a port of it? | 04:21 |
| JKnife | nope.. | 04:22 |
| * JKnife just reinstalled CRUX | 04:22 | |
| Romster | JKnife, why don't you have a private repo listed on the ports database? | 04:23 |
| Romster | hmm well if it dosn't depend on too much of gnome i'll port it... | 04:23 |
| JKnife | cause i don't have my own ports repo? | 04:24 |
| JKnife | i usally just over lay my ports | 04:24 |
| * JKnife is a selfish basterd | 04:24 | |
| JKnife | XD | 04:24 |
| Romster | nothing anoyes me more than ppl making ports and not hosting them for others to use... | 04:24 |
| JKnife | as i said i just reinstalled CRUX and the only port i have so far is for the nvidia-96xx driver | 04:25 |
| Romster | isn't that in contrib.. | 04:26 |
| Romster | so is my legacy one. | 04:26 |
| JKnife | o.O | 04:27 |
| JKnife | -_- for the package to with with gl-select it would have to be nvidia-x11r7-96xxx right? | 04:28 |
| Romster | hmm | 04:30 |
| Romster | gl-select-x11r7 | 04:30 |
| Romster | that other one gl-select should be removed... | 04:30 |
| Romster | nvidia-x11r7 | 04:31 |
| JKnife | yeah i mean gl-select-x11r7 | 04:31 |
| Romster | is 1.0-9746 | 04:31 |
| JKnife | lines 62 and 69 of /usr/bin/gl-select need to be fixed to find nvidia-x11r7* packages | 04:31 |
| Romster | the gl-select should be removed and that one renamed to just gl-select since we don't have R6 anymore. | 04:32 |
| Romster | i thought thats been fixed.. | 04:32 |
| Romster | make a patch and email the maintainer. | 04:32 |
| JKnife | working on it XD | 04:33 |
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| Romster | also tell him about the one in opt.. | 04:35 |
| Romster | that be for the old R6 non-modular one thats not needed anymore. | 04:35 |
| JKnife | 62 would have to be changed to grep ^nvidia-x11r7* and 69 would need to be made into a if statment because -f2 would make it x11r7 so it need tobe 4 | 04:35 |
| Romster | ah as the old one was X11 and nwo its X11R7 | 04:36 |
| Romster | now* | 04:36 |
| JKnife | XD all patched | 04:39 |
| JKnife | -_- jaeger = the maintainer | 04:39 |
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| Romster | galeon depends on too much gnome for me to even be bothered making a port of it. | 04:42 |
| Romster | yep | 04:42 |
| rxi | Romster: come on *pokes* | 04:42 |
| Romster | i'm not a gnome fan :/ | 04:44 |
| Romster | i'd be using gnome if it installed the time i installed crux... but no it was totally broken back then | 04:45 |
| Romster | so i went to KDE | 04:45 |
| Romster | which installed flawlessly. | 04:45 |
| rxi | works good atm | 04:45 |
| Romster | plus i dont' have alot of hdd space either. | 04:46 |
| JKnife | i have 200gb =\ | 04:48 |
| Romster | /dev/sda2 176G 165G 2.4G 99% / | 04:50 |
| JKnife | o.O | 04:50 |
| Romster | rxi, if your so keen on gnome why don't you port it :) | 04:50 |
| JKnife | LABEL=/ 143G 16G 119G 12% / | 04:51 |
| * JKnife is lazy and mounts his filesystems via labels | 04:51 | |
| rxi | Romster: lol jaeger has already taken care of that | 04:51 |
| JKnife | which is a good thing really.. first was the devfs naming to udev then the kernel devs find it great to change the device names.. | 04:52 |
| JKnife | rxi: he was talking about galeon | 04:52 |
| rxi | oh | 04:52 |
| Romster | rxi, really? i don't see it in the gnome repo | 04:53 |
| rxi | i thought you meant gnome | 04:53 |
| Romster | yes no one has galeon | 04:53 |
| rxi | cos its kinda pointless | 04:54 |
| JKnife | http://jknife.homeip.net/gl-select <-- anyone with nvidia-x11r7 package can you test that and make sure it works? | 04:54 |
| Romster | JKnife, got the patch uploaded i wanna see it | 04:55 |
| Romster | i can apply it to the port myself | 04:55 |
| Romster | prefered way. | 04:55 |
| JKnife | i havn't ran diff but i need to make sure it works first.. hint the asking if it works for other people | 04:56 |
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| Romster | hmm | 04:59 |
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| JKnife | nope.. doesn't work for the 97xx version -_- | 05:02 |
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| JKnife | \o/ fixed | 05:05 |
| JKnife | ohh wb | 05:06 |
| JKnife | Romster: http://jknife.homeip.net/patch.diff | 05:08 |
| JKnife | change line 64 from non to none XD | 05:08 |
| Romster | ERROR 504: Gateway Time-out. | 05:13 |
| Romster | hrmm | 05:13 |
| JKnife | o.O | 05:13 |
| JKnife | is dyndns down? | 05:13 |
| Romster | Resolving jknife.homeip.net... 192.168.2.5 | 05:13 |
| Romster | wtf | 05:14 |
| JKnife | o.O | 05:14 |
| Romster | you got the wrong ip on it... | 05:14 |
| JKnife | damn ddclient | 05:14 |
| JKnife | one sec | 05:14 |
| Romster | thats a lan ip not the isp assigned ip | 05:14 |
| Romster | hwo do ya set that up i'll move my ports to my router i'm sick of them being offline... | 05:14 |
| rxi | lol | 05:15 |
| rxi | thats pretty funny | 05:15 |
| JKnife | -_- it was ddclient's fault | 05:16 |
| JKnife | it SHOULD work now | 05:16 |
| rxi | sure it was | 05:16 |
| Romster | other ahan registereing with the site and adding that ddclient program to track my ip? | 05:16 |
| Romster | Connecting to jknife.homeip.net|76.5.171.30|:80... connected. | 05:17 |
| Romster | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 504 Gateway Time-out | 05:17 |
| JKnife | make a dyndns account and run dyndns as a daemon | 05:17 |
| JKnife | sounds like a bad hop somewhere between me and you =\ | 05:17 |
| Romster | k easy enougth todo. | 05:18 |
| Romster | maybe | 05:18 |
| JKnife | yeah i cannot connect using my external ip =\ | 05:18 |
| JKnife | s|cannot|can | 05:18 |
| JKnife | 6:30am no sleep XD | 05:18 |
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| rxi | most routers dont allow loopback | 05:19 |
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| maeki | does ircii support color text? | 05:23 |
| JKnife | this red? | 05:23 |
| teK | irssi? | 05:23 |
| JKnife | no ircii | 05:23 |
| tilman | ircii :) | 05:23 |
| maeki | JK: not red. | 05:24 |
| teK | imho and iirc ircii seem to be an IRC client :roll: | 05:24 |
| * JKnife has a hard time beliving people still use that | 05:24 | |
| teK | I heard, there ARE bitchx users, too | 05:24 |
| maeki | -_- it's all i got! | 05:24 |
| JKnife | teK: holy shit | 05:24 |
| maeki | is bitchx in the port catalog? | 05:24 |
| JKnife | maeki: prt-get depinst irssi | 05:24 |
| JKnife | brb | 05:24 |
| maeki | what's irssi? | 05:24 |
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| tilman | a sane ncurses based irc client | 05:25 |
| maeki | oh that sounds nice. | 05:25 |
| tilman | _the_ text based irc client | 05:25 |
| tilman | :P | 05:25 |
| maeki | ok let's give that a shot. | 05:25 |
| maeki | bbiam | 05:25 |
| rxi | hehe its probably what 95% of people here use | 05:25 |
| Romster | hmm you got port 80 closed mroe than likely.. | 05:26 |
| tilman | i'd be willing to bet that only thrice` and jaeger use xchat ;) | 05:26 |
| rxi | and jay | 05:26 |
| maeki | rxi well i searched and searched for irc clients but *irs* was never one of the strings. | 05:26 |
| raw | JKnife: I saw it as red | 05:26 |
| maeki | it's building now. | 05:26 |
| rxi | maeki: yeah someone took the detailed search out of portdb | 05:26 |
| maeki | rxi: didn't know it had one :). i was just slashdotfreshmeating | 05:27 |
| raw | tilman: well ncurses and sane is an oxymoron | 05:27 |
| rxi | maeki: crux.nu/portdb | 05:27 |
| tilman | raw: why? :) | 05:27 |
| maeki | bb. | 05:28 |
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| maeki_ | now this is sexy. | 05:28 |
| maeki_ | thanks rxi | 05:28 |
| maeki_ | tilman | 05:28 |
| rxi | np | 05:28 |
| rxi | *takes all the credit* | 05:28 |
| maeki_ | +credit for color scheme | 05:28 |
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| JKnife | can anyone connect to jknife.homeip.net? | 05:29 |
| maeki | jk via what? | 05:29 |
| JKnife | port 80 web | 05:29 |
| JKnife | http | 05:29 |
| JKnife | what ever you wanna call it | 05:29 |
| raw | tilman: look at the source | 05:29 |
| maeki | my provider blocks port 80 | 05:29 |
| rxi | JKnife: got a dir listing | 05:30 |
| JKnife | Romster: port 80 isn't blocked.. | 05:30 |
| maeki | so i have to run port forwarding 8000->80 | 05:30 |
| maeki | i can telnet to 80 | 05:30 |
| maeki | are you running some kind of network video compressor as well? | 05:30 |
| jjpk | Works here. | 05:31 |
| jjpk | lighttpd is running and it lists 4 files (2 backups). | 05:31 |
| Romster | JKnife, i can't even ping you.. | 05:33 |
| JKnife | Romster: safe bet is a bad hop | 05:37 |
| JKnife | try traceroute | 05:37 |
| maeki | exit | 05:38 |
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| tilman | does anyone want to try my ufoai port? | 05:39 |
| tilman | you'd need a somewhat modern graphics card though | 05:39 |
| rxi | wtf is that? | 05:39 |
| rxi | hmm turn based is evil | 05:40 |
| tilman | a kind of remake of the old x-com game | 05:40 |
| tilman | unfortunately the graphics engine is so beefed-up that it won't work on my oldish g550 | 05:40 |
| tilman | ;) | 05:40 |
| maeki | is xcom the turn based ufo hunter game | 05:41 |
| rxi | hehe its not going to work on my gma950 then | 05:41 |
| maeki | 3/4 view on the earth | 05:41 |
| tilman | yes! | 05:41 |
| tilman | rxi: gma950? intel? | 05:41 |
| maeki | i would so pay $5 if i saw that in the discount bin! | 05:41 |
| rxi | tilman: yeah | 05:42 |
| tilman | maeki: try the remake, http://crux.nu/portdb/?a=repo&q=tilman | 05:42 |
| rxi | english? | 05:42 |
| maeki | sorry what's the name of the port? | 05:43 |
| tilman | ufoai | 05:43 |
| maeki | not listed... | 05:44 |
| tilman | stupid ports db | 05:44 |
| Romster | considering my ip is dynamic but has never changed since i moved i've manualyl set it for now. romster.homeip.net | 05:44 |
| tilman | maeki: download the httpup and grab the port that way | 05:44 |
| Romster | need to setup apache then i'll start to add my ports and stuff and send a corection to the portsdb | 05:44 |
| Romster | i can't wait any longer for prologic... | 05:44 |
| maeki | so i download the .rsync file and put it in /etc/ports? | 05:45 |
| tilman | rsync -aqz code-monkey.de::crux-ports/ufoai/ ufoai | 05:46 |
| tilman | you can also issue that command | 05:46 |
| tilman | that will only get you that one port | 05:46 |
| maeki | after i put the rsync in the /etc/ports dir? | 05:46 |
| tilman | rxi: i thought the 950 would be well suported | 05:46 |
| tilman | maeki: no, no need for that | 05:46 |
| tilman | if all you want is ufoai/ | 05:46 |
| maeki | oic | 05:47 |
| maeki | that's for prt-get? | 05:47 |
| rxi | tilman: it has pixel shaders 2.0 but ill be fucked if i can get working properly in x | 05:47 |
| tilman | maeki: the rsync file syncs a whole repo to /usr/ports/foo, so all of the system can use it. including prt-get | 05:47 |
| maeki | gotcha. i'm new to this aspect of linux. | 05:48 |
| tilman | rxi: jesus, if it's *that* chip, then it's one of the best supported chips atm | 05:48 |
| rxi | in xorg? | 05:48 |
| JKnife | Romster: i lose you on the 13th hop | 05:48 |
| tilman | rxi: though you might want to wait for xorg-server 1.3.0 and the driver | 05:48 |
| JKnife | 14th hop* | 05:48 |
| tilman | rxi: yes | 05:48 |
| rxi | tilman: im using i810 atm | 05:48 |
| tilman | rxi: yeah | 05:48 |
| rxi | how long til 1.3.0? | 05:49 |
| tilman | a few weeks | 05:49 |
| maeki | which window manager do most of you use? | 05:49 |
| rxi | sweet | 05:49 |
| rxi | metacity | 05:49 |
| tilman | rxi: i think you will be a lucky camper | 05:49 |
| rxi | tilman: s/lucky/happy :P | 05:49 |
| maeki | metacity? | 05:49 |
| tilman | dang | 05:49 |
| treach | maeki: *box is pretty common. | 05:49 |
| tilman | i'm using timebombbox | 05:50 |
| treach | metacity is only for those gnome-wankers. | 05:50 |
| rxi | maeki: gnome .. atleast thats what im using | 05:50 |
| treach | lol@tilman | 05:50 |
| rxi | tilman: im stuckin 960x600 | 05:50 |
| maeki | checking for gnome port | 05:50 |
| treach | separate repo | 05:50 |
| rxi | tilman: just cos your machine cant run gnome :P | 05:51 |
| tilman | rxi: you could try to bump xorg-server to 1.2.99.903 (rc3) | 05:51 |
| tilman | rxi: and update xorg-xf86-video-i830 to the latest rc, too | 05:51 |
| tilman | rxi: but it might not work ;) | 05:51 |
| rxi | hmm thanks will do | 05:51 |
| rxi | tilman: ill try anything .. and i mean anything *winks* | 05:51 |
| tilman | actually, RC5 is out | 05:51 |
| tilman | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-announce/2007-April/000290.html | 05:51 |
| maeki | how can i get gnome on this thing? | 05:52 |
| tilman | ^^^ server | 05:52 |
| tilman | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-announce/2007-April/000285.html driver | 05:52 |
| rxi | maeki: check the docs page on crux.nu | 05:52 |
| tilman | (xf86-video-i830 has been renamed to -intel) | 05:52 |
| maeki | ah found it rxi | 05:52 |
| rxi | tilman: thanks .. ill let you know when it bombs out | 05:52 |
| treach | tilman: that means "only 25 more rc's to go" right? :P | 05:52 |
| tilman | maybe it's days instead of weeks | 05:52 |
| maeki | i just read through the handbook... | 05:52 |
| tilman | treach: no, that's only for imap servers | 05:53 |
| tilman | :D | 05:53 |
| treach | :) | 05:53 |
| tilman | it's such a nice day | 05:54 |
| tilman | spring ftw | 05:54 |
| rxi | winter is coming yay :) | 05:54 |
| tilman | tsk, antipodian weather ;) | 05:54 |
| tilman | seasons8 | 05:54 |
| tilman | seasons* | 05:54 |
| rxi | winter > * | 05:55 |
| maeki | tilman: downloading the data chunk now... | 05:56 |
| rxi | tilman: can you change your ports that use sf to use a specific mirror | 05:58 |
| tilman | rxi: can you change /etc/hosts to fix the problem in a nicer way? | 05:58 |
| tilman | :D | 05:58 |
| rxi | tilman: much easier to whinge and complain :P | 05:58 |
| tilman | :D | 05:58 |
| rxi | tilman: have you built rc5 yet? | 06:00 |
| tilman | no, i'm on rc3 | 06:00 |
| tilman | rxi: just bump the version, remove that diff, and it should work | 06:00 |
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| rxi | tilman: yeah doing that now | 06:01 |
| rxi | jsut wondering if you have | 06:01 |
| tilman | rc3 works stable for me, updating is a bit of russian roulette | 06:04 |
| tilman | ;) | 06:04 |
| tilman | rxi: you're on a laptop, right? | 06:04 |
| rxi | hehe | 06:04 |
| rxi | yeah | 06:04 |
| tilman | the new stuff will allow you to dynamically resize your desktop to a dfp, if you happen to have one around | 06:05 |
| tilman | (xrandr 1.2) | 06:05 |
| rxi | dfp? | 06:05 |
| tilman | digital flat panel | 06:05 |
| treach | mh, methinks if updating from one rc to another is russian roulette, it shouldn't be rc's.. | 06:05 |
| rxi | ahh | 06:06 |
| tilman | treach: i mean, it's xorg-server. no x, no fun. | 06:06 |
| rxi | german roulette? :P | 06:06 |
| tilman | -> extra precautious | 06:06 |
| treach | rxi: what's that? You sit in a circle around an aggrevated german shepherd and whomever the dog bites loses? | 06:07 |
| tilman | :x | 06:08 |
| rxi | nah an angry insane short bloke with a mustache | 06:08 |
| treach | he was austrian, fwiw. | 06:08 |
| rxi | close enough | 06:09 |
| treach | amusing, just like stalin who was georigan, not russian. :) | 06:09 |
| rxi | treach: need to bump xorg-randrproto to 1.2 asweel | 06:09 |
| tilman | he got german citizenship though | 06:09 |
| rxi | err tilman i mean | 06:10 |
| tilman | some funny people wanted to revert that some weeks ago | 06:10 |
| tilman | :D | 06:10 |
| tilman | rxi: oh, yeah | 06:10 |
| tilman | rxi: and then you'll eventualy want to bump librandr and xrandr too | 06:10 |
| tilman | to get the screen resizing thing | 06:10 |
| rxi | ahh .. that can wait | 06:10 |
| rxi | got the exact version? or xorg-randrproto? | 06:11 |
| rxi | for* | 06:11 |
| treach | tilman: obviously, but oh well. | 06:11 |
| tilman | rxi: 1.2.1 | 06:11 |
| rxi | ta | 06:11 |
| tilman | treach: yeah | 06:11 |
| * tilman doesn't really care | 06:11 | |
| tilman | about where he's from, i mean :] | 06:12 |
| treach | but I thought it was revoked a long time ago, I thought the new thing was that he was a honorary citizen of some german backwater town, which recently someone put on a map.. | 06:12 |
| tilman | maybe that's what i'm thinking about | 06:13 |
| treach | however, it's silly. The dead are dead, who gives a shit. | 06:13 |
| aon | treach: but georgia was a part of the russian empire back when he was born | 06:14 |
| teK | treach: the ones that would have not had to die if someone had not .. | 06:14 |
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| treach | teK: the point is, there is nothing to be gained be messing around with them. | 06:14 |
| treach | s be/by | 06:15 |
| treach | sure, he was a really bad guy, now he's just really dead. Let him stay that way. | 06:15 |
| rxi | tilman: have you made an xorg-xf86-intel port yet? | 06:16 |
| tilman | rxi: nope. | 06:16 |
| teK | I just can speak for me but that's my point of view, too | 06:16 |
| rxi | if i get it working you want it? | 06:16 |
| tilman | no, it's trivial anyway | 06:16 |
| teK | and it's funny to see that it seems that simply politicians and victim's organisations do not "forget" (distinguish between ignore and not thinking every day about it) | 06:17 |
| rxi | yeah | 06:17 |
| tilman | :%s/i810/intel/ done | 06:17 |
| tilman | :P | 06:17 |
| tilman | teK: i think it's important to "not forget". | 06:17 |
| tilman | i wonder why that honorary-citizenship-removal thing even hit the media? | 06:17 |
| treach | teK: it's wildly off topic, but IMO most of those "don't forget" organizations tend to be people trying to profit from the past anyway. | 06:17 |
| tilman | why didn't they just do it in secret? | 06:18 |
| tilman | ;) | 06:18 |
| teK | treach: right but I as a german am not allowed to claim this ... | 06:18 |
| treach | heh, don't worry, I'll do it for you. ;) | 06:18 |
| aon | hmm | 06:18 |
| aon | but isn't questioning the holocaust sort of a gray area in sweden too? | 06:18 |
| treach | damn leechs. | 06:18 |
| aon | didn't some teacher get fired for participating in a conference regarding that? | 06:19 |
| teK | aon: in germany it's a crime (and that's good) | 06:19 |
| treach | aon: that's not the question. | 06:19 |
| aon | teK: i know | 06:19 |
| tilman | "questioning the holocaust"? how did you get to that topic? | 06:19 |
| aon | from it not being legal for germans to do that | 06:19 |
| teK | ever been to a camp for jews,... ? | 06:19 |
| teK | *former camp | 06:19 |
| treach | aon: the point is that every time anyone dares to question israel for instance, the "you damned anti-semite" "argument" pops up. | 06:19 |
| teK | I was and it was awful | 06:19 |
| teK | treach: exactly and this sucks and pushes antisemitism ... | 06:20 |
| rxi | damn jews | 06:20 |
| treach | yes, it kind of validates what hitler said, right? | 06:20 |
| aon | no it doesn't, sometimes people can be wrong and it doesn't have anything to do with their race | 06:20 |
| treach | about the leeching, international jew.. | 06:20 |
| maeki | is it true that hitler was a great guy and everybody loved him | 06:20 |
| teK | in neither way. | 06:21 |
| maeki | *everybody that is | 06:21 |
| tilman | o_O | 06:21 |
| treach | "look, they even try to cash in on their own dead." | 06:21 |
| maeki | as in he was very charismatic | 06:21 |
| maeki | and charming | 06:21 |
| treach | lol | 06:21 |
| aon | (or well, whatever "white" people do wrong isn't ever related to their race, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink) | 06:21 |
| teK | his nice hair cut O_o | 06:21 |
| maeki | exactly | 06:21 |
| teK | damn cool beard *hmhm* | 06:21 |
| maeki | then one day someone got a little TOO high, said something stupid... and everyone took it a little bit too far. | 06:22 |
| jjpk | After WWI, Germany was in shambles and the general mood was that the then government backstabbed its people. | 06:22 |
| * maeki starts taking notes.. | 06:22 | |
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| teK | he won? | 06:25 |
| treach | tilman: why? they gave hitler & co perfect preconditions. | 06:26 |
| tilman | because i'm not sure i understood what you mean :P | 06:26 |
| jjpk | It's propaganda. The allies shifted their "share" of the slaughter on Hitler. Standard practice. | 06:26 |
| jjpk | Not like they were angels, war is war. | 06:26 |
| tilman | treach: yes. that's what i meant, too. | 06:26 |
| treach | tilman: ok. I'm suggesting you compare the Versailles treaty to the Marshall help plan. | 06:26 |
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| treach | some difference, right? and some different results as well. | 06:27 |
| pinkpixelguy | one bad pixel ruins a monitor :) | 06:27 |
| *** pinkpixelguy is now known as maeki | 06:27 | |
| treach | pinkpixelguy: just set your desktop background to pink. :P | 06:27 |
| tilman | treach: yes, i know. that was what i was hinting at | 06:27 |
| treach | ok. | 06:27 |
| tilman | maeki: and it's pretty damn sick to say hitler just got a little bit high and took things a bit too seriously o_O | 06:28 |
| maeki | so it's not as easy to make 1600x1200-1 people turn pink to make the 1/1600x1200 happy. | 06:28 |
| maeki | i didn't say HE took things a bit too seriously. | 06:29 |
| treach | he didn't? | 06:29 |
| maeki | he said the words | 06:29 |
| teK | he had just one egg as a popular german tv show claimed :> | 06:29 |
| maeki | put em on paper | 06:29 |
| maeki | and everybody else acted on them | 06:29 |
| treach | maeki: german society at that time. | 06:29 |
| tilman | teK: mit einem ei kann man nicht ficken!!!111 | 06:30 |
| treach | maeki: like the guy with the rats in the tale. | 06:30 |
| teK | tilman: mein GLIED wird nicht steeeeeiff | 06:30 |
| teK | und deshalb gibt es KRAAAAEEG | 06:30 |
| tilman | ich muss staendig pissen! | 06:30 |
| teK | :D | 06:30 |
| maeki | <shrug> just sayin that all the video clips with the big H man that i see | 06:31 |
| maeki | show he's great at public speaking and a good writer and people are happy to see him. - charismatic guy. | 06:31 |
| jjpk | He did have a brilliant propaganda machine behind him, it does mean he was a great writer. | 06:32 |
| treach | megalomaniac fool with people who are taught to obey, not think. | 06:32 |
| maeki | that's why we(i) have a saying that says 'hitler wasn't a bad person. the problem was that he was great and everybody loved him.' | 06:32 |
| teK | he sucks. </discussion> | 06:33 |
| maeki | well there's a moral to the story... | 06:33 |
| treach | note to self, that reminds me of someone, but I can't remember who.. | 06:33 |
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| tilman | excellent saying o_O | 06:33 |
| rxi | tilman: both intel driver and rc5 built ok .. bout to test | 06:33 |
| tilman | good luck | 06:33 |
| maeki | keep an eye on charismatic kids who can write well | 06:33 |
| treach | maeki: he couldn't :D | 06:34 |
| maeki | because when they get pissed off and find out there's no jobs they might be the next adolf :) | 06:34 |
| maeki | still wokring on building the ufo gam | 06:34 |
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| tilman | phew, successfully switched from nazis to ufos | 06:36 |
| teK | back to topic. | 06:36 |
| treach | tilman: ...and the difference is? :P | 06:36 |
| maeki | (ps the world is socialist_ | 06:36 |
| maeki | lol | 06:36 |
| maeki | (and flat) | 06:37 |
| tilman | treach: the latter haven't fux0red the world yet? | 06:37 |
| teK | who knows? | 06:37 |
| tilman | or have they...? *whisltes the x files melody* | 06:37 |
| teK | Bush pretty much looks /acts like an alien to me | 06:37 |
| treach | well, I always thought nazis came from outer-space or something. | 06:37 |
| maeki | they're still in the process of eating brains | 06:37 |
| maeki | there are lots of brains to eat, and they are very small | 06:37 |
| teK | tilman: Mittermeier: Bainsuckers form outterspace, do you know? :)) | 06:38 |
| maeki | give it time. | 06:38 |
| tilman | treach: nonono, but they live at the north pole now, in the earth ;) | 06:38 |
| tilman | teK: nope | 06:38 |
| maeki | octopuses and jellyfishes. | 06:38 |
| * treach writes a letter to santa, asking him to kick out his unwelcome neighbours | 06:38 | |
| maeki | i have a tentacle wrapped around my head as we speak. holding an icecream cone. | 06:38 |
| jjpk | ...right | 06:39 |
| tilman | are you insane? :) | 06:39 |
| treach | ...who? :> | 06:39 |
| maeki | nah man. i'm serious. i work in aerospace. and all our stuff is classified because nobody fscking believes us when we say it. | 06:39 |
| maeki | so we just wont say it. | 06:39 |
| * maeki resets needle on xfiles record. | 06:40 | |
| tilman | :D | 06:40 |
| maeki | did you _get it_ tilman :)? | 06:41 |
| maeki | cuz i still dont | 06:41 |
| tilman | get what? | 06:41 |
| maeki | nevermind. i'm just reciting lines. i've been told there are several jokes in them. i suppose i need to work on the delivery. | 06:42 |
| maeki | how old are you tilman - if i might ask? | 06:42 |
| tilman | i just have a deja vu | 06:42 |
| tilman | have you been in #crux before? | 06:42 |
| maeki | just yesterday. | 06:42 |
| tilman | maeki: older than 15, at least | 06:43 |
| tilman | revealing my age makes me feel old, so i prefer not to | 06:43 |
| maeki | can you give me an upper bound? | 06:43 |
| tilman | 30 | 06:43 |
| maeki | <25? | 06:43 |
| maeki | tighten that omega | 06:44 |
| tilman | no more hints for you! | 06:44 |
| tilman | :D | 06:44 |
| maeki | :) yeah man. aliens are real. | 06:44 |
| tilman | recently, scientists have found an epsilon that was so tiny, that if you divided it by two, it would become negative | 06:44 |
| maeki | this seems like a fun channel to hang out in. | 06:45 |
| JKnife | it isn't | 06:45 |
| teK | yeah, discussions about nazis and ufos are always fun | 06:45 |
| tilman | it's usually not as funny as it is today ;) | 06:45 |
| JKnife | it is a blackhole.. it seems fin but as soon as you get seated good it becomes boring and you cannot leave | 06:45 |
| tilman | usually we just make fun of Romster's spelling | 06:45 |
| tilman | :D | 06:45 |
| maeki | well we can try to fix that. i just got out of the psych. ward hospital. for reals. | 06:45 |
| JKnife | with the nice men in white coats? | 06:46 |
| maeki | so i wasn't a high enough threat for that place... more on the training side. | 06:46 |
| maeki | the staff is nice and for some reason nurses, both male and female are always damn cute. | 06:46 |
| maeki | PIXIES! | 06:46 |
| teK | wtf | 06:47 |
| maeki | is what they are. | 06:47 |
| tilman | and the first thing you do is install crux, instead of partying or something? | 06:47 |
| tilman | ;D | 06:47 |
| maeki | yeah. my brains been deep fried already. | 06:47 |
| tilman | ah | 06:48 |
| maeki | the hospital visit is to crack off the outer crust, like snakeskin | 06:48 |
| maeki | so now i'm able to install crux :) | 06:48 |
| maeki | that shxt aint easy you know! | 06:48 |
| JKnife | -_- all the insane people use Linux | 06:48 |
| JKnife | i found the crux install easy | 06:48 |
| maeki | yeah well when you start making iptables rules -DROP ALL- and you STILL get login attempts on sshd | 06:49 |
| maeki | then you know somethings fishy | 06:49 |
| maeki | JKnife: it is actually, very painless | 06:49 |
| maeki | if you are accustomed to reading docs, etc. | 06:49 |
| JKnife | wait.. there was docs on the cd? | 06:49 |
| maeki | handbook. | 06:49 |
| JKnife | o.O | 06:49 |
| maeki | TILMAN! | 06:50 |
| maeki | i have installed libsdl | 06:50 |
| tilman | you need sdl_ttf | 06:50 |
| maeki | but it does not have the SDL_ttf | 06:50 |
| maeki | yes | 06:50 |
| tilman | prt-get install sdl_ttf | 06:50 |
| maeki | prt-get sdl_ttf? | 06:50 |
| maeki | ah | 06:50 |
| maeki | ok | 06:50 |
| JKnife | i usally just install sdl_* | 06:50 |
| maeki | i capsed it | 06:51 |
| maeki | wildcarding didn't work. | 06:51 |
| maeki | :/ | 06:51 |
| JKnife | i mean install all the sdl packages | 06:51 |
| tilman | 'ports -l|grep -i sdl' to search for stuff ;) | 06:51 |
| maeki | i like this port system | 06:52 |
| maeki | oh boy it's building. | 06:52 |
| JKnife | tilman: then you could feed that throught prt-get and have it install them XD | 06:52 |
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| * rxi gives tilman a big sloppy kis | 06:52 | |
| rxi | s | 06:52 |
| tilman | it's working? | 06:53 |
| rxi | yeah | 06:53 |
| maeki | once i get gnome and my ati card working i'll be hiphiphappy | 06:53 |
| tilman | with sane resolutions etc? | 06:53 |
| maeki | it's building and linking | 06:53 |
| rxi | yeah i got 1280x768 instead of 1280x800 but i can live with out 38 pixels | 06:53 |
| JKnife | well 38x1280 pixels | 06:54 |
| rxi | JKnife: dont care .. its better than the 960x600 i had before | 06:54 |
| JKnife | ouch | 06:54 |
| maeki | tilman the pkgmk just finished successfully | 06:54 |
| maeki | and so did my gnome | 06:55 |
| rxi | tilman: --with-xserver-source <<< you'll need to put that in the configure options for the intel driver to get it to work with xorg 1.2< | 06:56 |
| maeki | so i have a question | 06:56 |
| JKnife | you know... 960x600 isn't bad to nvidia not letting me have 1024x768@85 | 06:56 |
| maeki | i went through the gnome install | 06:56 |
| maeki | and the avahi and hald services are not in the /etc/rc.d dir | 06:56 |
| maeki | nor gd | 06:56 |
| maeki | m | 06:56 |
| JKnife | i have hald there.. no gdm or avahi because it is still installing | 06:57 |
| JKnife | damn firefox -_- | 06:57 |
| maeki | are you installing the release or development version | 06:57 |
| JKnife | 2.0.0.3 | 06:57 |
| JKnife | off | 06:57 |
| JKnife | ohh* | 06:58 |
| JKnife | release of GNOME | 06:58 |
| maeki | i'm doing it off of the ports | 06:58 |
| maeki | yeah | 06:58 |
| maeki | i'll repeat the process one more time | 06:58 |
| blizz | moin | 07:01 |
| maeki | tilman it couldn't find snd_sdl nor ref_glx.so | 07:04 |
| maeki | oh nm | 07:04 |
| JKnife | o.O does it use the Quake engine? | 07:04 |
| tilman | quake2 | 07:06 |
| JKnife | ahh ok | 07:06 |
| JKnife | which version of the Quake2 engine? Quake2Max? | 07:07 |
| tilman | no idea | 07:07 |
| maeki | tilman do you know where the snd_sdl libraries are installed? | 07:07 |
| maeki | my ld.so.conf is empty atm | 07:07 |
| tilman | look at the port's footprint | 07:08 |
| tilman | it's in /usr/share/ufoai | 07:08 |
| JKnife | snd_sdl is the engines snd driver, it SHOULD be in the data folder | 07:08 |
| maeki | can you explain the footprint part? | 07:08 |
| maeki | i see the .sos that are missing | 07:08 |
| tilman | yes, but i don't want to. check the crux handbook :D | 07:08 |
| maeki | ok | 07:08 |
| maeki | will do | 07:08 |
| tilman | does it work if you cd /usr/share/ufoai | 07:09 |
| tilman | ./ufo | 07:09 |
| tilman | ? | 07:09 |
| maeki | all except the GL portion | 07:09 |
| maeki | yes | 07:09 |
| maeki | i was running ufoai bc it was in my usrlocalbin | 07:09 |
| tilman | huh? | 07:09 |
| tilman | how it did go there? | 07:10 |
| JKnife | he put it here? | 07:10 |
| maeki | sorry, it/s in usr/bin/ufoai and usr/share/ufoai | 07:10 |
| tilman | yes | 07:10 |
| maeki | so i ran ufoai and it complained about not finding the libraries | 07:10 |
| tilman | /usr/bin/ufoai seems to be buggy | 07:10 |
| tilman | i just symlinked it, but that won't work it seems | 07:10 |
| JKnife | cd /usr/share/ufoai then run ity | 07:10 |
| JKnife | it* | 07:10 |
| maeki | long solution short - just run it from usr/share/ufoai | 07:10 |
| maeki | :) | 07:10 |
| JKnife | o.O that is what i said | 07:11 |
| maeki | +2 pts you beat me to it. | 07:11 |
| blizz | wtf is ufoai anyway? | 07:11 |
| tilman | i said it even earlier | 07:11 |
| tilman | so you both lose | 07:11 |
| tilman | blizz: ufoai.sf.net | 07:12 |
| maeki | so i'll work on the gnome/ati+gl/printer problem next i suppose... | 07:12 |
| maeki | cups can see my printer via usb and network but it will not print. | 07:12 |
| JKnife | smash the printer with a hammer to fix it | 07:13 |
| blizz | what does the cups log say? | 07:13 |
| maeki | good question. i'm going to delete them and try to print the handbook and i'll let you know. | 07:14 |
| blizz | unconfigured_linux_system => problem_recursion | 07:14 |
| blizz | and now i need coffee a late wakeup coffee | 07:15 |
| blizz | tilman, as we talked about biergarten yesterday: i just had my first visit for this year :) | 07:16 |
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| tilman | hooray | 07:17 |
| blizz | if i had a blog, i'd blog it. pf. | 07:20 |
| tilman | :D | 07:21 |
| maeki | i need to attend to grooming duties for a bit as well... | 07:22 |
| maeki | i will be back. | 07:22 |
| maeki | later. | 07:22 |
| maeki | thanks for the help guys. | 07:22 |
| tilman | sure | 07:22 |
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| * Roomster has dinner | 07:23 | |
| JKnife | did someone say a word that deals with food? | 07:25 |
| Roomster | yep :P | 07:26 |
| tilman | time for a sandwich and a coffee | 07:26 |
| rxi | tilman: make it a vegemite and cheese sandwhich :P | 07:28 |
| treach | damn, there's more spam than anything else in crux-contrib... | 07:30 |
| treach | Dr Arline and Dr Adrian seems to be duking it out. :/ | 07:31 |
| JKnife | o.O | 07:32 |
| tilman | rxi: cooked sausage spread :D | 07:33 |
| rxi | that sounds even worse than vegemite | 07:33 |
| tilman | it's tasty | 07:33 |
| rxi | Roomster: which gstreamer plugins have mp3? | 07:34 |
| treach | rxi: it's genetic, the germans will make sausage of everything, just like the belgians who compulsively brew beer on anything they find.. | 07:34 |
| rxi | lol | 07:34 |
| tilman | it's originally sausage | 07:34 |
| tilman | then they cook it (i guess) so you can put it on toast | 07:35 |
| rxi | is it like minced sausage or something | 07:35 |
| tilman | rxi: btw, about your resolution problem: you might want to check bugs.freedesktop.org or ask in #xorg | 07:35 |
| treach | yuck.. pkgadd: could not install usr/bin/uncompress: Invalid cross-device link | 07:35 |
| treach | whoups.. | 07:36 |
| tilman | yeah, you said that two hours ago | 07:36 |
| tilman | :D | 07:36 |
| treach | I know, damned clipboard. | 07:36 |
| rxi | tilman: ill probably just deal til 1.3 and 2.0 are released | 07:36 |
| tilman | not sure they'll fix the problem | 07:36 |
| tilman | maybe it's not known | 07:36 |
| rxi | hmm good point | 07:36 |
| treach | tilman: anyway, you're meaning something like "sausage marmalade"? | 07:37 |
| treach | icky.. | 07:37 |
| tilman | maybe it's minced sausages, yes | 07:37 |
| blizz | mhm | 07:37 |
| tilman | treach: it doesn't have the same consistency(?) as marmalade | 07:37 |
| tilman | i'd take a photo, but i don't have a camera ;) | 07:38 |
| treach | thank god. | 07:38 |
| JKnife | ohh noes! people are downloading the cd image for 2.3! | 07:38 |
| tilman | treach: it's not disgusting or anything | 07:38 |
| rxi | lol no it sounds delightful *gags* | 07:39 |
| tilman | shut up, you vegemite-eating barbarian | 07:39 |
| tilman | bbl | 07:40 |
| rxi | lol *does sgt shultz impersonation* | 07:42 |
| blizz | schultz? | 07:42 |
| blizz | ausbilder schmidt? | 07:42 |
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| rxi | hogans heros | 07:43 |
| blizz | ahh, don't know them | 07:43 |
| rxi | the tv show? | 07:43 |
| tilman | hulk hogan? :P | 07:44 |
| rxi | lol no .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogans_heros | 07:45 |
| Roomster | rxi, the one that has lame int he dependencys | 07:48 |
| *** Roomster is now known as Romster | 07:48 | |
| rxi | Romster: ta | 07:48 |
| blizz | ahh! | 07:49 |
| blizz | "ein kaefig voller helden" | 07:49 |
| tilman | ah, i know that | 07:49 |
| tilman | hehe | 07:49 |
| Romster | i've got testing to do on most of my ports | 07:50 |
| Romster | build them in a chroot or a vm, to make sure there all ok. | 07:50 |
| JKnife | i have had one problem with the footprints =\ when you install a package that one uses as a optional dep. confiure will find it and build it with that support throwing off the footprint | 07:56 |
| tilman | not a huge problem :P | 07:57 |
| maeki_away | how can i view footprints or related info | 07:57 |
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| JKnife | cd the the ports dor | 07:57 |
| JKnife | and do less .footprint | 07:57 |
| maeki_pseudoway | pre/post build? | 07:58 |
| JKnife | well if you wrote the port file post | 07:58 |
| JKnife | else pre | 07:58 |
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| jjpk | maeki_pseudoway: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html | 07:59 |
| tilman | thanks jjpk | 07:59 |
| maeki_pseudoway | seriously? | 08:00 |
| *** maeki_pseudoway is now known as maeki | 08:00 | |
| tilman | yes please | 08:00 |
| maeki | that one's going to take some time to sink in - but ok sorry. | 08:01 |
| JKnife | away nicks are just about as annoying as | 08:02 |
| JKnife | xmms2 is now playing: Flyleaf - Fully Alive | 08:03 |
| maeki | i don't see the link. | 08:03 |
| maeki | i like to be able to look down a list and see who's there and who is not. | 08:03 |
| teK | Oberst Klink just was great, rxi | 08:03 |
| tilman | the fat bavarian was a bit too much clichee:P | 08:04 |
| teK | :D | 08:04 |
| teK | Schulz? | 08:04 |
| JKnife | maeki: use XChat and is they have a away message up then their name will be gray | 08:05 |
| tilman | probably | 08:05 |
| maeki | i do not like xchat. | 08:05 |
| maeki | this irssi is great. | 08:05 |
| maeki | that is as soon as i can find out how to change the background on the xterm back to black. | 08:05 |
| rxi | -bg black | 08:06 |
| tilman | vim ~/.Xdefaults | 08:06 |
| maeki | and -fg white :)? | 08:06 |
| JKnife | CTL+ALT+F1 and use that | 08:07 |
| treach | -bg black -fg black :) | 08:07 |
| maeki | i do not have an xdefaults file | 08:07 |
| JKnife | -depth 32 -bg "rgba:2000/2000/2000/cccc" -fg white | 08:07 |
| maeki | what goes in the xdefaults file? | 08:08 |
| treach | white on black sucks, too much contrast | 08:08 |
| maeki | is there a sample or manpage? | 08:08 |
| treach | @google ".Xdefaults" | 08:08 |
| clb | treach: Search took 0.09 seconds: Using the . Xdefaults file.: <https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Support/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20020202104217>; Save this file as ~/. Xdefaults and start a term without any ...: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/configs/dot-Xdefaults>; NACSE - Sample . Xdefaults for mwm (X windows): <http://mathstat.asu.edu/support/doc/unix/coping-with-unix/node185.html>; NACSE - X Configuration: . (1 more message) | 08:08 |
| JKnife | that is white on transparent gray for Rxvt-Unicode | 08:08 |
| treach | dammit, han again.. | 08:08 |
| maeki | googled it thanks | 08:09 |
| tilman | treach: heh | 08:09 |
| rxi | treach: hehe | 08:09 |
| maeki | ok so here's a question | 08:11 |
| maeki | how would i go about finding the available properties for an application | 08:12 |
| maeki | for use in xdefaults | 08:12 |
| treach | "man application" | 08:12 |
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| maeki | ah so X applications will usually(shouldalways) have a resources sectiopn in the man page? | 08:13 |
| tilman | yes | 08:14 |
| JKnife | if not the source code does | 08:14 |
| maeki | awesome. | 08:14 |
| maeki | beautiful thanks. | 08:16 |
| maeki | learned something new today :) | 08:17 |
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| maeki | hey i'm trying to build xmms port and it's saying it has a problem with GLIB | 10:25 |
| maeki | i have 2.12 installed but there's no glib_config | 10:26 |
| maeki | is there a devel port of glib that i should install or something else i should do? | 10:26 |
| aon | you need glib1 for xmms | 10:26 |
| aon | and gtk1, too | 10:27 |
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| maeki | are those port names that i can get? | 10:27 |
| maeki | glib1 and gtk1? | 10:27 |
| aon | yes | 10:27 |
| aon | they're in opt | 10:27 |
| maeki | ah fetching. | 10:27 |
| maeki | thanks. | 10:27 |
| maeki | i' | 10:28 |
| maeki | i'm on the 15th iteration of prt-getting gnome | 10:28 |
| maeki | is that normal for the gnome install? | 10:28 |
| jaeger | shouldn't be, no | 10:29 |
| maeki | a few dependencies install... | 10:29 |
| maeki | one fails... | 10:29 |
| maeki | do it manually then repeat the depinst | 10:29 |
| maeki | oh well that's ok i'll let you all know how it turns out. thanks for the gtk1 glib1 pt. | 10:31 |
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| thrice` | tilman, haha...no, irssi :-) | 11:17 |
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| thrice` | shouldn't need gtk1 / glib1 for gnome, should he? :\ | 12:25 |
| jaeger | gnome, no. xmms, yes | 12:26 |
| thrice` | ah - missed the xmms line | 12:35 |
| thrice` | jaeger, is the gnome repo showing up on the portdb for you? | 12:39 |
| jaeger | I don't think it ever has | 12:39 |
| thrice` | strange, I could have sworn it used to be listed | 12:40 |
| Romster | it used too be on the portdb | 12:42 |
| Romster | jaeger, why don't you email them or add it if you got access? | 12:43 |
| surrounder | jaeger: works great now btw, the gnome repo | 12:43 |
| jaeger | maybe I just don't remember it being there | 12:43 |
| Romster | been asking for ages. | 12:43 |
| jaeger | Romster: never felt like it needed to be | 12:43 |
| jaeger | surrounder: glad to hear it | 12:43 |
| Romster | kde is there why not gnome? | 12:43 |
| thrice` | it's good advertisement, since we have kde and xfce repos on there :) | 12:43 |
| tilman | jaeger: so it's at least 3 users now ;) | 12:43 |
| jaeger | woo hoo | 12:44 |
| thrice` | we'll convert you yet tilman | 12:44 |
| Romster | jaeger, your also missing galeon :) | 12:44 |
| tilman | thrice`: hehe | 12:44 |
| Romster | not that i use gnome.. | 12:44 |
| Romster | else we get asked wheres gnome... | 12:44 |
| jaeger | galeon is still around? | 12:45 |
| Romster | seems so | 12:45 |
| Romster | 2.0.3 | 12:45 |
| Romster | on sf | 12:45 |
| tilman | it's not part of gnome though, officially | 12:45 |
| tilman | iirc | 12:45 |
| jaeger | yeah, epiphany is the "official" browser of gnome | 12:45 |
| Romster | i started to make a port but it relies on to much gnome for me to even mess with it. | 12:46 |
| Romster | i'm trying to get away form KDE even to something lighter maybe XFCE or maybe i'll just use a WM | 12:46 |
| jkr | fluxbox! :) | 12:47 |
| Romster | ah k | 12:47 |
| treach | fvwm! ;D | 12:47 |
| surrounder | fvwm <3 | 12:48 |
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| treach | I've no idea why, my config sucks, and yet no matter how hard I try to get used to some other wm, I keep gravitating back to it. | 12:49 |
| thrice` | do you have a ss of your fvwm ? | 12:50 |
| treach | moment. | 12:51 |
| jaeger | I lean towards openbox+visibility these days when not using gnome | 12:51 |
| treach | thrice`: http://hem.bredband.net/treach/pictures/fvwm.png | 12:51 |
| thrice` | that doesn't look too bad at all | 12:52 |
| rehabdoll | fluxbox is nice | 12:52 |
| treach | thrice`: well, looks aren't everything. | 12:52 |
| treach | there are some pretty annoying behaviours built in currently which I haven't been able to track down yet. | 12:53 |
| treach | and frankly, I'm sick of digging in the man-pages for now. | 12:53 |
| treach | maybe in a few months. :P | 12:53 |
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| JKnife | question.. porting galeon "--with-mozilla[=mozilla|seamonkey|firefox|xulrunner|thunderbird] Which gecko engine to use (default: autodetect)" <-- what do i do about this? | 15:36 |
| JKnife | just use firefox? | 15:36 |
| aon | probably | 15:36 |
| aon | at least if you don't have any of the others installed | 15:37 |
| * deus_ex wonders if 'Supernatural' is series worth watching (it starts tonight). | 15:39 | |
| aon | probably not | 15:39 |
| treach | simply put, "No". | 15:39 |
| treach | TV sucks. :) | 15:39 |
| aon | i watch one series from tv nowadays | 15:40 |
| aon | plus some reruns | 15:40 |
| deus_ex | :) | 15:40 |
| aon | and i've got loads of "Married with Children" as dvd-rips :) | 15:40 |
| * treach hasn't watched any tv at all for at least two months. | 15:40 | |
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| deus_ex | It is substitute for Farscape, which ended last week. | 15:40 |
| treach | aon: Sure it's not "Lords and Ladies"? :P | 15:40 |
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| aon | huh? | 15:41 |
| aon | the one i watch? no :) | 15:41 |
| treach | never mind, just a stupid "in" joke. | 15:41 |
| deus_ex | treach: Is it like 'Buffy, the vampir slayer', worse, better ? :) | 15:41 |
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| treach | lol | 15:42 |
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| JKnife | quick netsplit | 15:43 |
| treach | deus_ex: it's just a terribly stupid fictional soap opera featured in Max Payne. :) | 15:44 |
| aon | i've never watched a scifi series :) | 15:45 |
| aon | all the kids @ school were all ":O" when i said that i dunno anything about stargÅte | 15:45 |
| roberth | it's a pub in Oslo | 15:45 |
| aon | i see | 15:46 |
| deus_ex | treach: Any good-looking babes in it ? | 15:46 |
| treach | deus_ex: you never played MP? | 15:46 |
| treach | ..I take that as "No". | 15:48 |
| deus_ex | Max Payne?that's the one with 'bullet time', right? Cop, vengeance, lots of blood? | 15:48 |
| treach | yeah. | 15:48 |
| tilman | yeah, and comics | 15:48 |
| treach | lots of quirky humor as well. | 15:48 |
| tilman | cause they couldn't afford real cut scenes ;) | 15:48 |
| deus_ex | No, I haven't played it ( I don't play games much). | 15:48 |
| treach | I actually think it's one of the more original shot and dodge games I've played. | 15:49 |
| deus_ex | Grim Fandango was the last, iirc | 15:49 |
| tilman | if you like action a bit, you should try it | 15:51 |
| tilman | works perfectly in winex, too | 15:51 |
| tilman | nowadays maybe in wine, too :P | 15:51 |
| deus_ex | Sorry for the lag in answering, btw, I'm trying to fix a computer i.e Windows problem over the phone ;) | 15:51 |
| treach | just plain wine works really well =] | 15:51 |
| tilman | treach: okay, i played it 5 years ago or so | 15:52 |
| jaeger | hey look, SNES cartridges... I don't even own a SNES anymore | 15:52 |
| JKnife | jaeger, i have modified gl-select to work with all nvidia drivers.. jknife.homeip.net/gl-select | 15:53 |
| treach | tilman: I had a nostalgia attack last week or so. :P | 15:53 |
| deus_ex | When I want to kill innocent creatures, I play Moorhuhn WE. :D | 15:54 |
| jaeger | by all do you mean the legacy drivers? | 15:54 |
| tilman | the guys in max payne aren't innocent | 15:54 |
| JKnife | and the 96xx | 15:54 |
| tilman | they killed max' wife, or something | 15:54 |
| tilman | >: | 15:54 |
| treach | deus_ex: thankfully MP isn't about killing innocent creatures. :D | 15:54 |
| jaeger | JKnife: I don't follow, the 96xx had problems? | 15:54 |
| JKnife | with 9631 was the last to support >=GF4 | 15:55 |
| treach | tilman: the easter-egg is really cool, too bad I can't get it to work properly. :/ | 15:55 |
| jaeger | JKnife: I use the 97xx series with my >=GF4 cards all the time... 6600gt, 6800gt, 7900gt | 15:56 |
| JKnife | ohh my bad | 15:56 |
| JKnife | <=GF4* | 15:56 |
| jaeger | do they make a distinction, then, between those and the legacy drivers? | 15:57 |
| deus_ex | jaeger: opt/gl-select works if port is named nvidia, but not with-nvidia-legacy, or whatever. | 15:57 |
| jaeger | deus_ex: I'm aware of that, hence my question | 15:57 |
| JKnife | what do you mean distinction? | 15:58 |
| deus_ex | Actually, there are two legacy drivers series, 71x and 96x. | 15:58 |
| deus_ex | jaeger: Sorry :) | 15:58 |
| jaeger | let me put it this way: do the 96xx legacy drivers support all the cards the 71xx legacy drivers do, or no? | 15:59 |
| JKnife | no | 15:59 |
| deus_ex | No, afaik. | 15:59 |
| jaeger | JKnife: is all that's changed in your version the grep? | 15:59 |
| JKnife | it doesn't support GeForce, TNT or any of the ones droped for 72xx | 15:59 |
| Romster | theres only one legacy driver afaik O_o | 16:00 |
| Romster | where is the second one.... | 16:00 |
| JKnife | this version grep looks for a package named nvidia-x11r7* | 16:00 |
| JKnife | Romster, the 96xx | 16:00 |
| JKnife | the one i wrote the port for XD | 16:00 |
| jaeger | JKnife: you might have a look at the current gl-select, it's got ATI support as well and the -x11r7 names got removed | 16:02 |
| JKnife | uhmm ok | 16:02 |
| jaeger | hrmm.. seems to be one in contrib, which is confusing, but I'll look into that | 16:03 |
| deus_ex | Romster: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 | 16:03 |
| JKnife | that one wont work for the 71xx and the 96xx | 16:03 |
| deus_ex | Romster: Drivers 7184 and 9631 (legacy) and 9755 current. | 16:04 |
| JKnife | cut -d- -f2 <-- has to be changed | 16:04 |
| deus_ex | Romster: Confusing, ain't it ;) ? | 16:04 |
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| jaeger | out of curiosity, why specify the kernel version in the version number for nvidia-x11r7-legacy? | 16:05 |
| Romster | Latest Legacy GPU version: 1.0-7184 | 16:05 |
| Romster | Latest Version: 1.0-9755 | 16:05 |
| Romster | where is the other? | 16:05 |
| Romster | i'm totally confused.. | 16:06 |
| JKnife | Romster, just know.. 7184 and 9631 are the legacy and 9755 is the current | 16:06 |
| deus_ex | "1.0-9631 (legacy) for Linux x86/x86-64 released" http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=81668 | 16:06 |
| jaeger | perhaps nvidia just doesn't want to note that on the downloads page for some reason | 16:07 |
| jaeger | and looks like nvidia-x11r7 needs to be removed from contrib | 16:07 |
| deus_ex | They are in the 'process of updating the main page, please stand by'. | 16:07 |
| Romster | then my legacy port should be renamed as there is 2 legacy drivers | 16:08 |
| Romster | bloody confusing... | 16:08 |
| deus_ex | That's at least what zander says... | 16:08 |
| deus_ex | (nvidia employee, one of the mods at nvnews) | 16:09 |
| Romster | so how does one label 2 diferent legacy drivers? | 16:10 |
| JKnife | jknife.homeip.net/Pkgfile <-- nvidia-96xx | 16:10 |
| JKnife | Romster, i called it nvidia-96xx so you have nvidia nvidia-96xx and nvidia-legacy | 16:11 |
| JKnife | that way you don't have to rename packages | 16:11 |
| deus_ex | 'legacy', yet-another-legacy' :) ? | 16:12 |
| Romster | hrmm | 16:12 |
| deus_ex | j/k | 16:13 |
| Romster | so the legacy is the oldist and nvidia-96xx bweing not so old... | 16:13 |
| Romster | but still legacy, thats jsut insane... | 16:13 |
| deus_ex | Wait when 100.x series of drivers comes... | 16:14 |
| jaeger | bit confusing | 16:14 |
| Romster | yeah really... | 16:16 |
| Romster | hmm nvidia-legacy and nvidia-old and nvidia ? | 16:20 |
| aon | just run "nv" | 16:20 |
| aon | :) | 16:20 |
| Romster | but then we'd have a problem when they/if they add another damn version .. | 16:20 |
| Romster | heh | 16:20 |
| Romster | if nv had 3d acceleration i would... | 16:21 |
| JKnife | Romster, call it nvidia-96xx | 16:21 |
| tilman | gotta people who are too damn stupid to figure out how to unsubscribe from a mailing list | 16:22 |
| Romster | anyone using Romster repo its now at http://romster.homeip.net:81/crux/ports/ i don't know if it'll indefente or till prologic is back with shortcircuit or i find a better host... | 16:22 |
| tilman | gotta love* | 16:22 |
| jjpk | Problem is README means DO NOT ;) | 16:23 |
| jaeger | what's up with James' stuff anyway? | 16:23 |
| jjpk | matter of fact, it seems to apply to any and all instructions :p | 16:24 |
| Romster | he moved and has no phone line yet... | 16:24 |
| jaeger | tilman: I thought about responding to the guy saying "every mail has a link at the bottom" but decided not to bother | 16:24 |
| jaeger | Romster: ah | 16:24 |
| tilman | jaeger: ditto | 16:24 |
| JKnife | do it | 16:24 |
| jaeger | I figure the guy will sort it out eventually | 16:24 |
| JKnife | not your fault they fail at life | 16:24 |
| loophole | Romster, were the gst plugins updates just a name change or did they contain a version bump as well? | 16:25 |
| tilman | actually, the crux ml doesn't add signatures | 16:25 |
| Romster | jsut a name change and 2 have the --disable-static added.. if you look in git. | 16:25 |
| tilman | jaeger: could you fix that? | 16:25 |
| loophole | Romster, thanks :) | 16:26 |
| tilman | crux-devel does have them | 16:26 |
| Romster | loophole, mainly fixing all ports so they are package name -> tarball name | 16:26 |
| Romster | note there is a set in gnome with the old names, i have a set in contrib because i don't use gnome. | 16:27 |
| loophole | I should probably be more consistent with mine, as well... and more consistent about keeping them up to date :/ | 16:27 |
| Romster | loophole, what your repo? | 16:30 |
| Romster | what's* | 16:30 |
| Romster | as i don't see one as loophole ;0 | 16:30 |
| jaeger | tilman: oops, thought it did... I could certainly turn that back on, I guess | 16:32 |
| loophole | mine hasn't been listed in a long time... and with good reason. Spotty updates and duplicate ports. | 16:33 |
| Romster | well i go ta few duplicates, but out of date ports yeah soem of mine are out of date by now run ck4up after you add that and you can instantly see what needs updating. | 16:36 |
| loophole | The biggest set back for me was loss of interest in the technologies related to my ports. They have a heavy mono focus and I'm having trouble staying enthused about yet another technology stack. | 16:40 |
| loophole | Not that beagle, banshee, f-spot, etc. aren't decent tools. | 16:41 |
| Romster | ah k | 16:41 |
| Romster | yeah i was like ooo mono but now i'm like meh another platform like ruby and python and perl | 16:42 |
| aon | :DD | 16:42 |
| treach | except that ruby/python etc doesn't have the evil empire and it's errand boys in the luggage. ;) | 16:43 |
| Romster | yep | 16:43 |
| loophole | also true | 16:43 |
| Romster | I'll look at more ports later i'm gonna sleep for awhile is 8am now i've been up all nite. | 16:45 |
| loophole | Goodnight | 16:45 |
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