| jaeger | nipuL: what's the story with crux64 these days? | 00:55 |
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| nipuL | still trying to solve the multiarck pickle | 01:02 |
| rxi_ | hehe | 01:03 |
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| RyoS | # | 03:05 |
| RyoS | # | 03:05 |
| RyoS | # | 03:05 |
| RyoS | # | 03:05 |
| RyoS | sorry :s | 03:05 |
| RyoS | wasnt me :D | 03:05 |
| * Romeo- moin moin | 03:07 | |
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| tilman | _mavrick61: ping | 06:01 |
| prologic | yer _mavrick61 ping | 06:06 |
| prologic | please fix email server | 06:06 |
| prologic | we at *.au can't send to the crux.nu list :/ | 06:06 |
| prologic | driving me nuts | 06:06 |
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| Romster | i've given up on the ML untill it's fixed.. | 08:19 |
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| jjpk | THe ML saga continues. | 08:26 |
| jjpk | Have you tried getting a gmail account to use their smtp for sending mail to the list? | 08:26 |
| jjpk | Certainly not a very decent solution, but it should work. | 08:27 |
| tilman | it pisses me off that my mail and irc pinging is ignored | 08:27 |
| Romster | :/ | 08:28 |
| Romster | i've never seen _mavrick61 actually talk or been here at the time if he ever does. | 08:29 |
| aon | mmh, good luck on that | 08:29 |
| aon | (using gmail's smtp) | 08:29 |
| treach | good luck? | 08:31 |
| treach | It works for me.. | 08:31 |
| aon | well, i don't have non-relayed access to port 25 here | 08:35 |
| treach | you don't need that | 08:36 |
| treach | their smtp server is on 587 | 08:36 |
| jjpk | Should be enough to identify yourself and be able to connect to port 587. | 08:37 |
| treach | yeah. | 08:37 |
| jjpk | Given you have an account from them. | 08:37 |
| RedShift | isn't 587 message submission? | 08:37 |
| RedShift | is that the same as SMTP? | 08:37 |
| jjpk | gmail probably just chose a nonstandard port. | 08:38 |
| treach | I presume that they chose to run the server on that port because of all isps that block 25. | 08:38 |
| RedShift | http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2476.txt | 08:38 |
| treach | ok, so at least it's not a randomly chose port. | 08:40 |
| jjpk | http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287 | 08:40 |
| RedShift | they don't have IMAP? | 08:43 |
| RedShift | well that's sad | 08:43 |
| jjpk | pop3 is perfectly fine to download your mail. | 08:44 |
| aon | ah, okay | 08:45 |
| aon | especially as the mail stays there even when you download it with pop | 08:45 |
| aon | or i think you can choose whether it does or not | 08:45 |
| jjpk | Some people keep everything in imap. | 08:45 |
| jjpk | outgoing mail, incoming, sort mailing lists etc. | 08:46 |
| RedShift | jjpk: jup, I do | 08:46 |
| RedShift | I've got my whole e-mail archive on my imap account | 08:46 |
| jjpk | My messages are deleted after a few days, but I have them downloaded and saved to my machines. | 08:47 |
| jjpk | I prefer having multipe active copies rather than centralizing. | 08:48 |
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| prologic | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/26/1558245&from=rss | 14:44 |
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| aon | hmm | 15:49 |
| aon | i was wrong, seems like my lexmark supports ps too | 15:49 |
| aon | or at least the job count has a "ps emulation" field | 15:49 |
| predatorfreak | mm, there, I now have an up-to-date toolchain. | 15:52 |
| predatorfreak | Now I just need two billion hours to rebuild my system. | 15:52 |
| treach | prt-get update -fr $(prt-get listinst) ; goto sleep | 15:56 |
| treach | or something. :) | 15:57 |
| thrice` | screwing around with the 2.4 toolchain ? | 16:00 |
| thrice` | I would think you need to build packages in certain order...is that not true? | 16:00 |
| thrice` | (in reference to going down the line of listinst) | 16:00 |
| predatorfreak | treach: Actually I wrote my own script. | 16:00 |
| predatorfreak | It supports rebuilding depends first. | 16:00 |
| predatorfreak | That way you don't end up with one busted app and another fine :) | 16:01 |
| predatorfreak | thrice`: oh and no, custom thrown-together. | 16:01 |
| thrice` | predatorfreak: is your script available somewhere? that's what I was thinking too ;) | 16:01 |
| predatorfreak | http://pred.dcaf-security.org/crux-system-rebuild | 16:02 |
| predatorfreak | Change /bin/zsh if you don't have it. | 16:02 |
| predatorfreak | But if you set it for bash be sure to put set -e at the top. | 16:02 |
| thrice` | I have /usr/bin/zsh indeed :) | 16:03 |
| treach | thrice`: it's true, but the process has worked pretty well for me in the past, with some care.. | 16:03 |
| treach | obviously, I'm not a heavy kde/gnome user with millons of packages though. :P | 16:04 |
| thrice` | treach: right :) I've actually never updated a crux install, always re-installed | 16:04 |
| predatorfreak | treach: I'm too lazy to put care into it :P | 16:04 |
| predatorfreak | Blarg that's annoying. | 16:08 |
| predatorfreak | ZSH 4.3.4 without multibyte doesn't display cyrillic properly. | 16:09 |
| aon | :-( | 16:09 |
| aon | i just transliterated my cyrillic files :) | 16:09 |
| predatorfreak | aon: SATANISM! | 16:10 |
| aon | hmm, not all of them apparently, though | 16:10 |
| predatorfreak | Also it's only with input :\ | 16:10 |
| predatorfreak | It's like. | 16:10 |
| predatorfreak | Type ะด in cyrillic. | 16:10 |
| aon | and i transliterated them in the finnish way :) | 16:10 |
| predatorfreak | and get the unicode representation of it. | 16:11 |
| aon | not that i understand it very well anyway | 16:11 |
| aon | :( | 16:11 |
| predatorfreak | Huh, now strangely zsh no longer deletes my prompt using multibyte in 4.3.4. | 16:13 |
| predatorfreak | Must be a magical GCC 4.2.1 fix :P | 16:13 |
| predatorfreak | and... YAY CYRILLIC WORKS AGAIN! | 16:13 |
| thrice` | predatorfreak: you do know that jue has compiled glibc 2.6.1 and gcc 4.2.1 for 2.4, right? :) | 16:14 |
| thrice` | and packaged | 16:14 |
| aon | \o/ | 16:14 |
| predatorfreak | thrice`: I already bumped everything here. | 16:14 |
| predatorfreak | and I prefer my glibc port :P | 16:15 |
| thrice` | aah | 16:15 |
| predatorfreak | http://dcaf-security.org/ports/glibc/ <-- Mine steals the Arch way of generating locales. | 16:17 |
| predatorfreak | Saves time building the dang thing and it lets you pick which locales to generate without going overboard. | 16:18 |
| thrice` | your headers, though, are a bit outdated ;) | 16:18 |
| predatorfreak | Of course, the default is generate-every-damn-locale-evar. | 16:19 |
| aon | iirc certain finnish cruxers had that kind of functionality in like 2005 :) | 16:20 |
| predatorfreak | thrice`: I'm thinking of spending the time to setup something using the fancy make headers_install bit of the kernel. | 16:20 |
| predatorfreak | aon: Dang finnish! | 16:20 |
| treach | "Uncomment the ones you need." | 16:20 |
| treach | shouldn't that be, comment out the ones you *don't* need..? | 16:21 |
| predatorfreak | treach: Yeah I got lazy and didn't update the bit at the top :P | 16:21 |
| treach | k, made more sense that way. | 16:22 |
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| treach | Viper_: btw, pinentry doesn't list xorg as a dep, but it will currently not build without it. | 16:29 |
| predatorfreak | Viper_: Oh and libpth refuses to install here unless make -j1 install BLAH is used. | 16:33 |
| predatorfreak | I don't know why. | 16:33 |
| predatorfreak | and I'm way too lazy to fix their b0rken makefiles ;) | 16:33 |
| acrux|ppc | this new toolchain works fine on this cruxppc too | 16:40 |
| acrux|ppc | but you need snapshots binutils | 16:40 |
| acrux|ppc | aka .18.50 | 16:40 |
| predatorfreak | I haven't actually been able to FIND binutils 2.18.50. | 16:47 |
| thrice` | http://ftp.twaren.net/Unix/Sourceware/binutils/snapshots/ | 16:48 |
| acrux|ppc | yeah | 16:49 |
| * predatorfreak gets buildaring | 16:50 | |
| acrux|ppc | you are able to FIND that link on binutils homepage too | 16:50 |
| predatorfreak | acrux|ppc: With digging. | 16:50 |
| thrice` | google binutils-2.18.50 :) | 16:51 |
| predatorfreak | Well not really. | 16:51 |
| predatorfreak | But digging for me. | 16:51 |
| predatorfreak | Since I'm lazy :P | 16:51 |
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