| predatorfreak | Romster: I'm hoping to have the funds and time to see Monster Magnet next year, or possibly Clutch or someone. | 00:02 |
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| predatorfreak | It depends on who's going to be in town. | 00:02 |
| Romster | screaming marshals are a big killer of ballence the lead always wan'ts to crank it and drown the rest of the stage out. | 00:02 |
| predatorfreak | But, you can't go wrong picking more veteran bands, they almost always get the sound right. | 00:02 |
| Romster | ah cool. | 00:02 |
| Romster | yeah from expeareance.. | 00:03 |
| predatorfreak | Yeah, the new bands don't set stuff up right or pay enough attention. | 00:03 |
| predatorfreak | or whatever their problem is. | 00:03 |
| jaeger | sound mixing is why I don't go to concerts anymore | 00:03 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Bah! Pick the right bands :P | 00:04 |
| predatorfreak | or buy me tickets instead :P | 00:04 |
| jaeger | heh | 00:05 |
| jaeger | I'll go see Stomp or Blast any day but I'm pretty much done with other stuff | 00:05 |
| * Romster sound mixes but i've not done a show that big only to a crowd of about 3000 people be the bigist. | 00:06 | |
| * predatorfreak forces jaeger to buy tickets for Clutch and forces him to attend. | 00:06 | |
| Romster | lol | 00:06 |
| jaeger | when I have too much money I'll let you know | 00:07 |
| jaeger | I've got some pretty good spaghetti you can have | 00:07 |
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| predatorfreak | jaeger: Food? :D | 00:08 |
| * predatorfreak repays jaeger with um...... um..... what exactly should he repay him with? | 00:08 | |
| jaeger | believe it or not, I just cooked | 00:08 |
| jaeger | I don't do that often, you heard it first | 00:08 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Secret chef eh? | 00:08 |
| jaeger | not so much, hehe | 00:09 |
| jaeger | I don't like to make things that have more than like 5 steps | 00:09 |
| jaeger | but I guess I haven't made anything horrible yet | 00:09 |
| jaeger | some better than others but nothing I didn't want to eat | 00:09 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: My cooking experience is so-far limited to "hash browns and eggs" | 00:09 |
| Romster | i love cooking :) | 00:09 |
| predatorfreak | Because I like breakfast food :P | 00:10 |
| Romster | man i can make cakes.. | 00:10 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Want to come live with me in America and cook for me? :P | 00:10 |
| predatorfreak | No wait. | 00:10 |
| predatorfreak | That'd make you a wife-type-thingie-mabob. | 00:10 |
| jaeger | heh | 00:10 |
| predatorfreak | Not a good idea. | 00:10 |
| predatorfreak | U.S. people would stone me. | 00:10 |
| Romster | lol maybe :) | 00:10 |
| Romster | nah chef not wife rofl | 00:11 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: In the U.S.? | 00:11 |
| predatorfreak | People would be like "Personal MALE chef eh?" | 00:11 |
| predatorfreak | "YOU FAGS!" | 00:11 |
| predatorfreak | Especially in this area. | 00:11 |
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| Romster | lol that bad.. | 00:11 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Yeah, this area is only kind to you if you're | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | 1. White | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | 2. Black | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | 3. Asian/other minority | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | 4. Straight | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | Gay/bi = KILL for most people. | 00:12 |
| Romster | aww don't cover BI :P | 00:12 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Yes, sadly enough. | 00:13 |
| predatorfreak | If it did. | 00:13 |
| predatorfreak | I'd run around and be like "HEY GUYS LET'S GO HAVE FUN IN MY BEDROOM :3" | 00:13 |
| Romster | what about LES... i bet there allowed.. | 00:13 |
| predatorfreak | Well, duh. | 00:13 |
| Romster | hehe | 00:13 |
| jaeger | I must live in a fairly open-minded place, comparatively | 00:13 |
| Romster | yeah there gay racists. | 00:13 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Can I come live in your house then? :P | 00:14 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: The golden rule is. | 00:14 |
| predatorfreak | Everyone hates bisexuality/homosexuality. | 00:14 |
| predatorfreak | UNLESS women do it. | 00:14 |
| predatorfreak | Then it's awesome. | 00:14 |
| jaeger | I don't do well with roommates but you're welcome to crash on the couch for a while | 00:14 |
| jaeger | hell of a buyers' house market here, heh | 00:15 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Yay! I'll pack up my PCs and nuclear bombs and ion cannons :D | 00:15 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, :D | 00:15 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Everyone needs ion cannons. | 00:15 |
| predatorfreak | They're for self defence, not world domination :3 | 00:16 |
| Romster | seems so. | 00:16 |
| Romster | you remind me of red alert 2 | 00:16 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Close enough :D | 00:16 |
| predatorfreak | Standard C&C, really. | 00:16 |
| predatorfreak | Red Alert = Chronotech for allies/good guys | 00:16 |
| predatorfreak | Standard C&C = Ion Cannons :3 | 00:17 |
| Romster | GDI/NOD | 00:17 |
| predatorfreak | Yeah. | 00:18 |
| predatorfreak | Although, Red Alert 2 is probably the funniest of all the C&C games. | 00:18 |
| Romster | yeah with it's bugs and yuri's revenge. | 00:19 |
| Romster | add on | 00:19 |
| predatorfreak | Hey bugs are fun. | 00:19 |
| Romster | :P | 00:22 |
| Romster | heres one on RA2 froce damage the tech building get a spy and a enginer place them botn in way points and i thin the spy has to be in first so you put the spy closer than the enginer and once there both in, it'll give you extra tech. | 00:24 |
| predatorfreak | Awesome. | 00:24 |
| Romster | yeah | 00:24 |
| Romster | works on barrics and engearing for tanks too. | 00:25 |
| Romster | it's like stealing others tech but doing it to yoruself. | 00:25 |
| Romster | other bugs but i can't remember. | 00:25 |
| predatorfreak | I've gotta try that sometime :D | 00:25 |
| Romster | :P | 00:26 |
| Romster | works well. | 00:26 |
| Romster | chrono leginares :P | 00:26 |
| Romster | teleport and disapear stuff :P | 00:26 |
| Romster | i love puting them in tansk to make a load of them take stuff and vaporsie it. | 00:27 |
| predatorfreak | I like chrono-ivans the best myself. | 00:28 |
| predatorfreak | Zap into base with tiny hops. | 00:28 |
| predatorfreak | Place bombs. | 00:28 |
| predatorfreak | zap out. | 00:28 |
| predatorfreak | BOOOOM :3 | 00:28 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: on a side note, what's it like in Australia this time of year? | 00:30 |
| predatorfreak | In-case I feel like moving out of the U.S. :P | 00:30 |
| Romster | yeah | 00:31 |
| Romster | ah mild rainy some days sunny others. | 00:31 |
| Romster | heaps of flowers are bloming or about too. | 00:31 |
| predatorfreak | Sounds perfect! Except for the flowers, bees evil. | 00:31 |
| predatorfreak | Unlike Michigan where not more than 2 weeks ago we had hail... | 00:32 |
| predatorfreak | Then randomly heatdeath-type conditions. | 00:32 |
| Romster | ah bees are ok to me, i'm not allergic, but i get hay feaver.. | 00:32 |
| predatorfreak | Neither am I. | 00:33 |
| predatorfreak | I just hate them. | 00:33 |
| predatorfreak | :) | 00:33 |
| predatorfreak | It's my right to hate an entire species :P | 00:33 |
| Romster | ah i've picked bees up :P | 00:34 |
| Romster | treat them with resepct and ya be right | 00:34 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Bah! Evil creatures! | 00:35 |
| Romster | heh | 00:35 |
| predatorfreak | Hey! Dethalbum got leaked. | 00:35 |
| predatorfreak | and it's watermark free! | 00:36 |
| predatorfreak | YAY INTERNET FOR CURING MY IMPATIANCE! | 00:36 |
| Romster | O_o | 00:36 |
| predatorfreak | Now. | 00:36 |
| predatorfreak | Leak me 4 Way Diablo :D | 00:36 |
| predatorfreak | So I can get the next two albums before I buy them. | 00:36 |
| predatorfreak | Then go to the stores and buy them. | 00:36 |
| Romster | lol | 00:37 |
| Romster | i thought my downloading habbits was bad. | 00:37 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Well, if stuff I want gets leaked before release. | 00:38 |
| predatorfreak | I tend to download it. | 00:38 |
| predatorfreak | Decide if it's worth buying. | 00:38 |
| predatorfreak | then buy it if it's good :) | 00:38 |
| Romster | hehe | 00:38 |
| Romster | ya | 00:38 |
| predatorfreak | I still try to "support the artists" | 00:38 |
| predatorfreak | Especially underground guys like High On Fire (their latest is amazing) and Monster Magnet. | 00:39 |
| predatorfreak | Because they get practically jack-shit in money :P | 00:39 |
| predatorfreak | DO YOU FOLKS LIKE COFFEE? REAL COFFEE? FROM THE HILLS OF COLUMBIA? | 00:40 |
| predatorfreak | Ha! They made this song more funny. | 00:40 |
| predatorfreak | By making it longer :D | 00:40 |
| Romster | heh | 00:40 |
| predatorfreak | mmm yeah this is a definite buy :D | 00:41 |
| * predatorfreak looks over shoulder for FBI | 00:46 | |
| predatorfreak | Nope, none yet :D | 00:47 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Yay! My hearing is returning :D | 00:52 |
| predatorfreak | Still can't hear crickets :( | 00:52 |
| Romster | lol | 00:54 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, play mortfication - nocturnal :P | 00:55 |
| Romster | sure to hear crickets :P | 00:55 |
| predatorfreak | Hehe | 00:55 |
| nipuL | since when was monster magnet "underground"? | 00:56 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: Since no U.S. radiostation played them at all anymore? | 00:57 |
| predatorfreak | and since no one I know besides one friend of mine. | 00:57 |
| predatorfreak | and I got him into them. | 00:57 |
| predatorfreak | +knows them | 00:57 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: A band is "mainstream" when pretty much every teenager or college kid within your country knows them. | 00:58 |
| predatorfreak | Whether they like them or not. | 00:58 |
| predatorfreak | A band is underground when almost no one knows them :) | 00:59 |
| Romster | this is what i like about the net | 00:59 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: good music exists here? :P | 00:59 |
| Romster | finding a person with metal then going i'll try that song and bingo that song rocks lets look that artist up | 00:59 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, i gotta sort my stuff otu then we do some trading :P | 01:00 |
| Romster | out* | 01:00 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: :D | 01:00 |
| Romster | i just haven't got to it yet. | 01:00 |
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| Romster | but it's defently on the todo. | 01:00 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I've actually gotten my hands on some REALLY rare stuff. | 01:00 |
| predatorfreak | I got a beautiful bootleg of Monster Magnet in 1992. | 01:00 |
| Romster | neat | 01:00 |
| Romster | don't loose it. | 01:01 |
| predatorfreak | Pfft, you'd have to misplace my brain first. | 01:01 |
| Romster | be cool to listen to that. | 01:01 |
| predatorfreak | Monster Magnet is more important than rational though :P | 01:01 |
| Romster | :P | 01:01 |
| predatorfreak | or thinking period :P | 01:01 |
| Romster | man how can i be into metal when i got david bowie in my colection lol... | 01:02 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Bah! | 01:02 |
| Romster | my music styles vary way too much | 01:02 |
| predatorfreak | My collection goes like. | 01:02 |
| predatorfreak | Bowie. | 01:02 |
| predatorfreak | Dio. | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | Suddenly death metal. | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | Suddenly stoner rock. | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | suddenly jazz. | 01:03 |
| Romster | man i got a couple of 60's songs... | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | suddenly blues... | 01:03 |
| Romster | lol | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | suddenly the world fucknig ends. | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | fucking* | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: oh and surf too :P | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | You name it, I should have some of it. | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | Somewhere. | 01:03 |
| nipuL | suddenly... i don't care about your music collection :) | 01:03 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: No one was talking to you :P | 01:04 |
| Romster | ok NIN, ATB, DJ's of all sorts, techno, dance, metal, bowie, black sabbith, deamon hunter | 01:04 |
| Romster | you name it.. | 01:04 |
| nipuL | predatorfreak: this is a public irc channel | 01:04 |
| nipuL | just saying is all | 01:04 |
| Romster | and i put it on random play. | 01:04 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I've got techno, dance, industrial and the like too. | 01:04 |
| Romster | ah well it's just us atm and it's not a dev channel. | 01:05 |
| Romster | ya | 01:05 |
| Romster | we lokled at your lsits even drumb n base :P | 01:05 |
| Romster | lists* | 01:05 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Heh. | 01:05 |
| predatorfreak | Well, Aphex Twin verges into well.... | 01:05 |
| predatorfreak | Everything. | 01:05 |
| predatorfreak | If it uses a synth. | 01:05 |
| predatorfreak | He's done it. | 01:05 |
| jaeger | like pendulum? | 01:06 |
| predatorfreak | I suppose? | 01:06 |
| predatorfreak | I don't track the billions of different styles XD | 01:06 |
| nipuL | hmmm... new pendulum vs old pendulum | 01:06 |
| jaeger | I just heard of it recently, got Hold Your Colour | 01:06 |
| jaeger | dunno if it's old or new | 01:06 |
| nipuL | yeah, that's they're new one | 01:06 |
| jaeger | I like it pretty well | 01:07 |
| jaeger | I guess it has to be fairly new, it's got sound bytes from spider man 2 | 01:07 |
| nipuL | old album is called 3 knocks | 01:07 |
| nipuL | it's more laid back | 01:07 |
| jaeger | ah | 01:07 |
| nipuL | rather than the balls to the wall stuff on the new album | 01:08 |
| jaeger | I'd probably like that style, too, I'll listen to about anything that's not country | 01:09 |
| nipuL | my wife likes country :( | 01:09 |
| jaeger | anyhow, gotta get up for work in about 5.5 hours, chat with you gents later | 01:09 |
| nipuL | and my chemical romance | 01:09 |
| jaeger | my condolences :) | 01:09 |
| nipuL | lol, i think she only likes them to piss me off | 01:09 |
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| predatorfreak | nipuL: I'll send the bombs. | 01:09 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: Tell me if you need the ion cannons. | 01:09 |
| Romster | tesla tanks and prsims towers :P | 01:10 |
| nipuL | i know how to connect to the internet, i can win any argument | 01:10 |
| nipuL | the day she learns to use openbsd is the day i lose all my power over her | 01:11 |
| Romster | oh man i agree to Jaeger i hate country well most of it. | 01:11 |
| Romster | nipuL, lol | 01:11 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Johnny Cash is "good" country. | 01:11 |
| predatorfreak | Although, he verges between rockabilly and country. | 01:12 |
| predatorfreak | I love the sound of surfabilly though. | 01:12 |
| nipuL | and that song bon jovi did for the young guns movie...that rocked | 01:12 |
| predatorfreak | It just sounds awesome. | 01:12 |
| nipuL | :[ | 01:12 |
| Romster | eh burnig ring of fire *dies* | 01:12 |
| Romster | john willaims was better | 01:13 |
| predatorfreak | There's always better :P | 01:13 |
| Romster | bon jovi alwasy rocks. | 01:13 |
| Romster | always* | 01:13 |
| nipuL | predatorfreak: do you have any man or astro-man?? | 01:13 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: Almost full discography. | 01:14 |
| predatorfreak | Missing a handful of rare EPs and the like :( | 01:14 |
| predatorfreak | But every major album and a handful or so of EPs. | 01:14 |
| predatorfreak | Hawaii Samurai are another awesome surf band, in my opinion. | 01:15 |
| predatorfreak | I love their "punk surf" style, heavy and fast while still distinctly surf-styled. | 01:15 |
| nipuL | figured so, you've mentioned surf a few times | 01:15 |
| Romster | puretone addicted to base. | 01:15 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: I need to expand my surf collection :( | 01:16 |
| Romster | hmm not famielr with that one predatorfreak | 01:16 |
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| predatorfreak | I need some Los Straitjackets, The Trashmen, etc. | 01:16 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I've got their three albums here. | 01:16 |
| predatorfreak | Sadly, they've disbanded :( | 01:16 |
| nipuL | i used to be all about "expanding the collection" | 01:16 |
| Romster | neat. darn... | 01:17 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: Well, I don't expand at the rate where I find a ton of stuff and never listen to anything. | 01:17 |
| predatorfreak | But I love discovering good bands. | 01:17 |
| nipuL | that's getting harder and harder | 01:17 |
| predatorfreak | Yeah. | 01:18 |
| predatorfreak | Sadly by the time I find most of the guys I like. | 01:18 |
| predatorfreak | They've disbanded :( | 01:18 |
| predatorfreak | Although some "music blogs" are create for discovering new bands in a style. | 01:19 |
| nipuL | that's not always a bad thing | 01:19 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: It depends, sometimes the bands would just be washed up. | 01:19 |
| predatorfreak | Other times they died prematurely. | 01:19 |
| nipuL | i don't have a styl which is probably why i listen to a lot of "that music people call post rock" | 01:19 |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: Neither do I. | 01:20 |
| predatorfreak | But that's more because I listen to any style that sounds good. | 01:20 |
| nipuL | plus i like mentioning bands that makes people heads explode | 01:20 |
| nipuL | ie: The Silver Mount Zion Memorial Orcehstra and Tra-la-la Band | 01:21 |
| Romster | lol | 01:21 |
| Romster | nipuL, argh.. | 01:21 |
| * Romster plays Judas Priest - You've Got Another Thing Coming | 01:22 | |
| predatorfreak | nipuL: That made me think of Monster Magnet's Heads Explode. | 01:22 |
| Romster | this is a classic | 01:22 |
| predatorfreak | PLAY TYRANT! | 01:22 |
| predatorfreak | Oh wait. | 01:22 |
| predatorfreak | This isn't a concert. | 01:22 |
| Romster | lol | 01:22 |
| pitillo | good morning | 01:26 |
| predatorfreak | pitillo: Morning, I will now proceed to run around your front lawn naked. | 01:26 |
| * predatorfreak runs around pitillo's front lawn naked | 01:26 | |
| pitillo | xD | 01:26 |
| predatorfreak | OH SHIT THE COPS. | 01:27 |
| pitillo | strange to be active this channel at this hours.... | 01:27 |
| * predatorfreak runs! | 01:27 | |
| Romster | yo pitillo | 01:27 |
| * Romster plays Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock - It Takes Two | 01:27 | |
| pitillo | you can run but not hide xD | 01:27 |
| predatorfreak | pitillo: Sleeping after a concert going from like 7PM to 12AM is hard. | 01:27 |
| pitillo | hey Romster :) | 01:27 |
| predatorfreak | and boring :P | 01:27 |
| Romster | hehe | 01:27 |
| pitillo | jajajjaja | 01:28 |
| * predatorfreak hides behind pitillo. | 01:28 | |
| predatorfreak | pitillo: You rat me out, I stick you! | 01:28 |
| Romster | man ya know this channel hasn't been this active with craynes for a good while. | 01:28 |
| Romster | crazyness* | 01:29 |
| pitillo | ummmm rat you out? translating :) | 01:29 |
| predatorfreak | pitillo: Tell the cops where I'm hiding. | 01:29 |
| pitillo | xDD | 01:29 |
| predatorfreak | "ratting someone out" is U.S. slang for telling the cops something about someone else. | 01:29 |
| predatorfreak | More or less. | 01:29 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Crazy is my middle name! | 01:30 |
| pitillo | interesting, the translator told me, rat out like "rata afuera"... has no sense | 01:30 |
| Romster | dobed in. | 01:30 |
| predatorfreak | (No seriously, my name is Brett Crazy Goulder) | 01:30 |
| predatorfreak | pitillo: Translator lied :P | 01:30 |
| pitillo | yeah | 01:30 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: no wait I forgot my own name :( | 01:31 |
| predatorfreak | It's still Brett Andrew Goulder :( | 01:31 |
| Romster | ah | 01:33 |
| Romster | actaully who does know my middle name here? | 01:33 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I don't even know your first name! | 01:34 |
| pitillo | xD | 01:34 |
| Romster | oh.. | 01:34 |
| Romster | grep the ports :P | 01:34 |
| pitillo | there are some ports at contrib.... | 01:34 |
| Romster | Danny | 01:34 |
| Romster | really it's Daniel but i got used to Danny | 01:34 |
| Romster | some... | 01:35 |
| pitillo | a lot :P | 01:35 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Too lazy to grep :P | 01:35 |
| pitillo | xD | 01:35 |
| Romster | i dunno how many but eh alot. | 01:35 |
| Romster | actaulyl i'd love to see a pie chart of whos got the msot ports in contrib | 01:35 |
| * predatorfreak quickly adds 20000000 ports to contrib | 01:36 | |
| Romster | lol | 01:36 |
| Romster | hmm predatorfreak you got some in contrib too? | 01:36 |
| predatorfreak | Nope :P | 01:37 |
| pitillo | nop? | 01:37 |
| pitillo | xD | 01:37 |
| Romster | ya you do... | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | Too lazy/nothing to contribute. | 01:37 |
| Romster | hmm | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | Nope. | 01:37 |
| pitillo | only packaged, but not maintained... | 01:37 |
| Romster | there is 4 in there.. | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | grep says otherwise. | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | grep -i 'Brett' /usr/ports/contrib/* | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | Nothing | 01:37 |
| Romster | $ grep -r predatorfreak /usr/ports/contrib/*/Pkgfile | 01:37 |
| predatorfreak | Well yeah. | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | That helps XD | 01:38 |
| pitillo | xD | 01:38 |
| Romster | your listed as Packager | 01:38 |
| pitillo | yeah | 01:38 |
| Romster | on 3 ports | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | Packager only. | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | Yeah. | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | Someone else adopted ports I wrote. | 01:38 |
| Romster | make that 4 | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | Way back in the day. | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | In fact... | 01:38 |
| pitillo | Romster, here 5 :) | 01:38 |
| pitillo | ummm, sorry was 4 | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | I originally packaged claws-mail. | 01:38 |
| pitillo | xD | 01:38 |
| predatorfreak | Way back when it was slypheed-claws. | 01:39 |
| predatorfreak | libetpan too... | 01:39 |
| predatorfreak | I think maybe texinfo wasn't my work. | 01:39 |
| Romster | oh man 158 ports lol... | 01:39 |
| predatorfreak | But libetpan/gpgme/claws-mail, those were my work. | 01:39 |
| Romster | ah. | 01:40 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Jesus christ! | 01:40 |
| predatorfreak | 155 in contrib | 01:40 |
| Romster | i have to admit i pinched a few from other repos and others i made myself. | 01:40 |
| Romster | yeah i know.... | 01:40 |
| Romster | just a few :P | 01:40 |
| Romster | lucky i use ck4up | 01:40 |
| predatorfreak | My WHOLE PERSONAL REPO isn't that big O.O | 01:41 |
| Romster | lol my person repo is bigger.. | 01:41 |
| predatorfreak | and I've got a LOT of shit in my personal repo. | 01:41 |
| Romster | personal* | 01:41 |
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| predatorfreak | In fact, I could probably merge md5deep into contrib. | 01:41 |
| predatorfreak | and hsetroot too. | 01:41 |
| predatorfreak | Plus powernowd/optipng/other shit. | 01:42 |
| Romster | that game levels takes up 100 and something packages.. | 01:42 |
| predatorfreak | But then I'd need to sign up to contrib :P | 01:42 |
| Romster | if ya wanna maintain them.. | 01:42 |
| Romster | heh | 01:42 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, why not? | 01:42 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Lazy! :P | 01:42 |
| Romster | i'm not the best but i do my bit. | 01:42 |
| pitillo | you have the knowledge needed predatorfreak ... | 01:43 |
| Romster | look at the git logs for contrib! | 01:43 |
| predatorfreak | Sure, I've been maintaining packages forever. | 01:43 |
| predatorfreak | I'm just lazy :) | 01:43 |
| Romster | yeah predatorfreak you know more than i do. | 01:43 |
| pitillo | yeah, that's what I mean | 01:43 |
| pitillo | your work can be great for all | 01:43 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I dunno about that. | 01:43 |
| Romster | well with the kernel you do.. | 01:44 |
| predatorfreak | That's just dogged persistence :P | 01:44 |
| Romster | really to think i didn't know much linux at one stage and now i'm doing some. | 01:44 |
| pitillo | only some? xD | 01:45 |
| Romster | yeah some i doubt i know as much as others here... i dont' knwo that much of programming. | 01:46 |
| predatorfreak | I guess I'll contribute some packages to contrib tomorrow/whenever I get around to submitting my info XD | 01:46 |
| Romster | just some basics. | 01:46 |
| predatorfreak | I'm not much of a programmer either :) | 01:46 |
| predatorfreak | I'm a scripter really. | 01:46 |
| Romster | fwee i'm a good infolence :D | 01:46 |
| pitillo | this isn't only programming Romster. Like I said to someone, here there are lot of knowledge | 01:46 |
| Romster | thought you where.. since you ahck the kernel. | 01:46 |
| Romster | hack8 | 01:47 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I wouldn't say that I hack the kernel. | 01:47 |
| predatorfreak | I maintain a patchset. | 01:47 |
| predatorfreak | There's a massive difference :P | 01:47 |
| Romster | pitillo, true.. well i've learned how to use most tools etc. | 01:47 |
| Romster | heh | 01:47 |
| predatorfreak | I solve tiny problems between patches and make sure things run. | 01:47 |
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| predatorfreak | Besides that I don't do anything "original". | 01:47 |
| Romster | oh.. | 01:48 |
| Romster | the fuzzyness factor stuff.. | 01:48 |
| Romster | of patch | 01:48 |
| predatorfreak | fuzz, basic rejects, etc. | 01:48 |
| predatorfreak | If it had massive rejects between differing blah, I'd be fucked. | 01:48 |
| Romster | yeah | 01:48 |
| predatorfreak | and I admit it :) | 01:48 |
| pitillo | well, time to prepare a meeting with sap developers and admins, bbl | 01:49 |
| Romster | i got the impressionyou could do some coding :P | 01:49 |
| Romster | later pitillo | 01:49 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, i'm very average myself but i try todo what i can. | 01:49 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I'm a good bash scripter, I can do some basic debugging and shit. | 01:50 |
| predatorfreak | But besides that. | 01:50 |
| predatorfreak | I'm just a Linux-knowledge-whore :P | 01:50 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, have a look over my ports in particular my safe-build script in my private repo i got crazy with bazh right there really needs work done to that. | 01:50 |
| Romster | :) | 01:51 |
| * Romster thinks i'm nearly becoming another yahfri port whore. | 01:51 | |
| Romster | but the diference is i keep them upto date | 01:52 |
| Romster | actaulyl thinking of maybe pruning a few.. | 01:52 |
| Romster | not sure yet | 01:52 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Bah! get 2K ports. | 01:52 |
| predatorfreak | then add another 40K :P | 01:52 |
| predatorfreak | http://romster.shortcircuit.net.au/crux/ports/safe-build/safe-build.in | 01:53 |
| predatorfreak | I could rewrite that. | 01:53 |
| predatorfreak | But I'm lazy :P | 01:53 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, lol | 01:54 |
| Romster | yeah it's quite messy... | 01:54 |
| Romster | and a few bugs | 01:54 |
| Romster | actually works to a degree | 01:55 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Most of my stuff is more related to "replace these really annoying apps/scripts by other people". | 01:56 |
| predatorfreak | e.g. I have my own CD ripper/audio converter/video ripper, iptables "system", etc. | 01:56 |
| Romster | ah | 01:56 |
| predatorfreak | Because I got pissed with every other CD ripper, audio conversion script and DVD ripper :P | 01:57 |
| predatorfreak | Surprisingly enough. | 01:58 |
| predatorfreak | It's pretty easy to write a good CD ripper with CDDB support in bash. | 01:58 |
| predatorfreak | Without getting too outrageous or huge. | 01:58 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: In fact, it was possible for me to write all three scripts in under 2K lines of bash :D | 02:00 |
| predatorfreak | By comparison, abcde (another bash CD ripper) is like 3-4K lines of bash. | 02:00 |
| Romster | not bad | 02:03 |
| Romster | ah. | 02:03 |
| predatorfreak | Of course, abcde's CDDB retrieval shit is "spec compliant" or whatever. | 02:04 |
| predatorfreak | and checks like every single return code. | 02:04 |
| predatorfreak | Where I only check what matters. | 02:05 |
| predatorfreak | and if it doesn't work right. | 02:05 |
| predatorfreak | I bail out. | 02:05 |
| predatorfreak | Works right in the real world. | 02:05 |
| predatorfreak | Even if it's not technically proper. | 02:05 |
| Romster | ah i see.. | 02:06 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I made some other shortcuts by not having a billion encoders supported through oddball means. | 02:07 |
| predatorfreak | or supporting every-single-option-evar. | 02:07 |
| predatorfreak | I just support basic stuff like quality/bitrate, etc. | 02:08 |
| predatorfreak | Rather than "encoder should perform exactly like this" | 02:08 |
| predatorfreak | But again, in the real world, most people don't need that kind of stuff. | 02:08 |
| predatorfreak | Nor do most care about oddball codecs either. | 02:09 |
| predatorfreak | So long as MP3, AAC, Vorbis and FLAC are supported. | 02:09 |
| predatorfreak | Most people won't care. | 02:09 |
| predatorfreak | But, there's some other stuff that it does that other rippers don't. | 02:10 |
| predatorfreak | e.g. it does at least two rips and checks for differences (secure ripping style), it supports ReplayGain automatically with no crap, supports various audio filters through stuff like mplayer, etc. | 02:11 |
| Romster | i see i'm intested, i'm using a riper that will check every frame of a cd it rips to make sure it's correct. | 02:11 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Mines not that complex yet XD | 02:12 |
| predatorfreak | Sooner or later I'll get around to "rip each sector at least twice". | 02:12 |
| predatorfreak | But that'll require a lot of time. | 02:12 |
| predatorfreak | Because I need to get unlazy. | 02:12 |
| predatorfreak | and figure out a way to do that reliably. | 02:12 |
| predatorfreak | Well, in shell that in. | 02:13 |
| predatorfreak | Ripping each track twice is generally enough for most drives, but it is a tad inefficient to have to rerip whole tracks rather than individual sectors. | 02:13 |
| tilman | cddb is obsolete | 02:14 |
| tilman | use musicbrainz | 02:14 |
| tilman | musicbrainz ftw! | 02:14 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Can it be easily parsed in shell? | 02:14 |
| predatorfreak | I think not. | 02:14 |
| tilman | yeah well | 02:14 |
| tilman | there's only so much you can do with shell :P | 02:15 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, look at cdstatus in my repo | 02:15 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: When I get unlazy enough to learn C, I'll care :P | 02:15 |
| tilman | so you're writing a ripper in shell? | 02:16 |
| tilman | how do you extract audio data in shell? ._o | 02:16 |
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| predatorfreak | cdparanoia? | 02:16 |
| predatorfreak | Ever heard of it? :P | 02:17 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Does it have cdparanoia's integrity checks beyond frame-by-frame reading? | 02:17 |
| Romster | ya know of that but look at the feater of cdstatus | 02:17 |
| predatorfreak | cdparanoia does a heck of a lot of different oddball checks | 02:17 |
| Romster | feature* | 02:17 |
| Romster | not sure but it'll keep reading untill it gets the correct data | 02:17 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: With the right tools, you can do a lot in shell. | 02:19 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, hmm i'll look into that too and see if cdstatus and cdparanoia share anything in common. | 02:19 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: It'd be nice if there was like a "command-line EAC for Linux" :( | 02:20 |
| tilman | cdparanoia isn't as good (secure mode) as eac anyway | 02:21 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Duh. | 02:21 |
| predatorfreak | But it's better than cdda2wav. | 02:21 |
| predatorfreak | and EAC refuses to work in wine for me. | 02:21 |
| predatorfreak | Besides that, it's not command-line :) | 02:21 |
| tilman | i wonder why you're talking about reading sectors and blablabla, when all you do is exec cdparanoia | 02:21 |
| Romster | the ide behind cdstatus is it re reads untill it gets no errors not sure of other checks.. | 02:21 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: It's possible to read individual sectors with cdparanoia. | 02:22 |
| Romster | tilman, read a scrached disc see if you get a copy thats not static in the tracks | 02:22 |
| predatorfreak | and I run it at least twice. | 02:22 |
| tilman | aha | 02:22 |
| predatorfreak | Sooner or later I'll get unlazy. | 02:22 |
| predatorfreak | and write a proper shell backend to read individual sectors using cdparanoia. | 02:23 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, throw in cdstatus and give it a whirl | 02:24 |
| Romster | you maybe suprised.. | 02:24 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I don't have any bad discs :P | 02:24 |
| predatorfreak | I'm careful with my discs :) | 02:25 |
| Romster | easy burn a copy scratch it up and test :P | 02:25 |
| Romster | heh i'em too but i get a few off others to rip that are scratched. | 02:25 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Also, when cdparanoia fucks up on discs here. | 02:26 |
| predatorfreak | EAC rarely does any better. | 02:26 |
| predatorfreak | I mean, maybe a tiny bit better. | 02:26 |
| predatorfreak | But for the most part, it's not something I can tell apart. | 02:27 |
| predatorfreak | In fact, the only time I get problems is when my DRIVE fucks up these days XD | 02:29 |
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| predatorfreak | That's why I always like having two drives. | 02:29 |
| predatorfreak | I've noticed that sometimes one drive by a certain manufacturer just won't read a disc right. | 02:29 |
| predatorfreak | But another reads it crystal clear. | 02:29 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, i've noticed that too... | 02:30 |
| Romster | must be something todo with the pits or width of the grove. | 02:31 |
| predatorfreak | Yeah, it's annoying though. | 02:31 |
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| thrice` | jaeger: work? :) | 08:41 |
| jaeger | no thanks, I'm trying to cut back | 08:45 |
| thrice` | no, your gnome build :) | 08:46 |
| jaeger | not done yet, but it's going ok so far | 08:47 |
| thrice` | ah, awesome. I'd be happy to give it a whirl, if interested | 08:48 |
| namenlos | hm, anyone got an idea how i only get the matching filenames with grep? i am searching the manpage for a while, but didn't get it. | 08:50 |
| namenlos | or do i have to pipe it into cut -d : -f 1 ? | 08:50 |
| jaeger | you'd need to run gtk 2.12 again | 08:51 |
| jaeger | namenlos: I'd just use that cut | 08:52 |
| thrice` | that's what it looked like from the release notes | 08:52 |
| namenlos | ok | 08:52 |
| jaeger | namenlos: or use grep -l | 08:52 |
| tilman | which ports did gtk 2.12 break, apart from xfce? | 08:52 |
| namenlos | jaeger: thanks, that's better ;) | 08:53 |
| jaeger | tilman: it didn't break anything for me in the short time I was running it but apparently viper_ and predatorfreak had lots of problems | 08:53 |
| jaeger | viper_ with xfce, he said it hard locks after a few minutes | 08:53 |
| jaeger | namenlos: np | 08:53 |
| namenlos | must be blind... | 08:54 |
| jaeger | namenlos: if it makes you feel any better, I didn't know about that option until now | 08:54 |
| tilman | jaeger: yeah, pitillo said that it was in xfce's gtk engine. or something | 08:54 |
| thrice` | jaeger: are you lodging gtk 2.12 in the gnome repo? | 08:55 |
| pitillo | tilman, I notices xfce locksup with gtk update, jaeger said that and I test it, and was true | 08:56 |
| pitillo | s/notices/noticed | 08:56 |
| namenlos | jaeger: yes, but i was nearly sure, that such a option exists, because i couldn't imagine, that i am the first person looking for that feature... i just overlooked it. | 08:56 |
| jaeger | thrice`: haven't decided but if it causes me no trouble I'll likely do that until a newer release is made | 08:57 |
| tilman | pitillo: did you check xfce's bugzilla? is the bug known? | 08:57 |
| pitillo | tilman, nop, I have xfce in one computer only, I dont follow it, sorry. | 08:58 |
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| pitillo | only tested because viper talk about that and want to check it. Here with e17 worked fine (now downgraded again to opt version) | 09:00 |
| tilman | ah | 09:01 |
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| thrice` | jaeger: ok, i'm not opposed to trying it out with 2.12 | 09:16 |
| jaeger | soon as I get the footprints fixed I'll commit them to trunk | 09:19 |
| thrice` | sounds great. I'll let the poor 2100 do the compiling from work | 09:21 |
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| jjpk | gtk = progress or sloppy releases? :p | 12:20 |
| jaeger | yes :) | 12:21 |
| jjpk | Too much of both are also possible in this case. | 12:21 |
| * jjpk makes a mental note to not bother upgrading just yet. | 12:22 | |
| tilman | well | 12:23 |
| tilman | i'll bet that it's just the crazy-ass gtk-engine of xfce that's exposing a gtk bug | 12:23 |
| tilman | i'm using 2.12 happily with firefox and the gimp | 12:24 |
| tilman | and the murrina engine | 12:24 |
| jjpk | Hopefully that is where the buck stops. | 12:26 |
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| jjpk | texlive ++ :/ | 16:09 |
| treach | beats unmaintained stuff. | 16:10 |
| jjpk | Double-edged sword situation. | 16:13 |
| jjpk | tetex itself was no lightweight package. | 16:14 |
| treach | nope. :) | 16:15 |
| jjpk | Somehow the current trend is to produce one-for-every-use bundles. :p | 16:16 |
| jjpk | You would imagine something could be optimized a bit more. :/ | 16:17 |
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| RyoS | adduser? | 16:20 |
| maro | RyoS: not in crux | 16:29 |
| maro | it's a stupid useradd wrapper script on most distros, not really useful | 16:29 |
| RyoS | ok useradd | 16:30 |
| RyoS | not that i care for whatever he takes | 16:30 |
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| jjpk | it makes it user friendlier!!11 | 16:32 |
| jjpk | (you have to think less, that's important!) | 16:32 |
| treach | well, that's a good thing, isn't it? | 16:33 |
| treach | the more you have to think, the bigger chance you mess up | 16:33 |
| jjpk | Regardless, you can still mess up. | 16:34 |
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| treach | of course. but I'd much prefer a path were I risk to fall and break my neck once, than one where there's a constant risk for it. | 16:36 |
| treach | then, of course there is the question of wether the safety nets are more bother than use, and wether they are reliable or not, but that are different questions. | 16:37 |
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| jjpk | There is that saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions. | 16:39 |
| treach | true, but the fact remains. every time you have to think before you do something, you lose. | 16:40 |
| treach | that is, you have to spend energy on figuring out how to do something, rather than doing it. | 16:41 |
| jjpk | Or, read up, learn it once, then use it when needed. | 16:43 |
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| treach | that's provided that you use it frequently enough to remember how you do it, and the gain is big enough to motivate the learning. | 16:44 |
| jjpk | Like you said, it depends on the situation(s). | 16:45 |
| treach | yep. | 16:45 |
| jjpk | I have a slight feeling it will be drunken musical chairs again in the evening. | 16:46 |
| treach | :/ | 16:47 |
| jjpk | Before I know it, I might end up on the act. | 16:50 |
| treach | You could try a game of "fire-hose vs musical chairs". | 16:51 |
| jjpk | Exchange student round up tomorrow, never know what will happen. | 16:51 |
| jjpk | Not a bad idea, not at all. | 16:52 |
| tilman | what's a drunken musical chair? | 16:52 |
| tilman | do you mean choir? ;) | 16:52 |
| jjpk | In fact, there's a fire hose not too far down the aisle. | 16:52 |
| treach | >:) | 16:52 |
| jjpk | Knock on the door. "yes?" WOOOSH | 16:54 |
| jjpk | A few were trying, lucky me it stopped after a short while. | 16:57 |
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| jaeger | god, I hate docbook | 17:34 |
| jaeger | it pisses me off to no end that when the docbook site is messed up builds can fail | 17:34 |
| jaeger | that's SO fucking stupid | 17:34 |
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| treach | heh.. "Idiot, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe | 17:36 |
| treach | whose influence in human affairs has always been | 17:36 |
| treach | dominant and controlling." | 17:36 |
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| predatorfreak | treach: You mean all politicians? | 17:49 |
| treach | no, those are "An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared" | 17:53 |
| treach | or rather "eels in". | 17:53 |
| thrice` | jaeger: question...did you decide that gtk 2.12 will go in gnome? if so, i'll hold off on the update that just went to opt :) | 17:54 |
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| jaeger | it'll have to but I won't be putting 2.12 back in opt, most likely | 17:57 |
| jaeger | not until there's a .1 or something | 17:57 |
| thrice` | alrighty. I'll build 2.12 instead, in prep. for trunk of gnome 2.20 | 17:58 |
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| jaeger | ok | 18:08 |
| jaeger | pretty close to done but gnome-applets won't build until the docbook site recovers | 18:08 |
| thrice` | docbook-xml? | 18:09 |
| jaeger | some calls made during the builds (xsltproc stuff if I had to guess) fail when they can't reach something on the site | 18:09 |
| thrice` | huh...that doesn't make much sense :) | 18:10 |
| thrice` | perhaps it'll fix itself by the time my PC actually makes it there | 18:10 |
| jaeger | it never has | 18:10 |
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| maro | jaeger: isn't that what the local docbook-xsl-* packages are for? | 18:34 |
| maro | a local copy of the templates | 18:35 |
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| jaeger | you'd think so, yes | 18:37 |
| jaeger | I've yet to see them actually work as such | 18:37 |
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| maro | hmm, perhaps a packaging bug (no wonder since there's no Makefile or anything in the sources) | 18:45 |
| jaeger | could be, certainly | 18:46 |
| maro | and you'd have to keep local copies for all (used) versions :( | 18:46 |
| maro | depending on the docbook site being up is probably the best solution for us lazy people :) | 18:47 |
| jaeger | it's pretty annoying, though | 18:47 |
| maro | indeed | 18:47 |
| maro | but this will make any maintainer shit himself: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/docbook-dtds/docbook-dtds.spec?rev=1.16&view=auto | 18:51 |
| jaeger | most of the other distributions' setups aren't much better, too | 18:52 |
| maro | I know, because there's no standard way to install it :/ | 18:53 |
| jaeger | http://scrollkeeper.sourceforge.net/docbook.shtml is a start, with some install scripts, but by no means all-inclusive | 18:54 |
| jaeger | I suppose they could be duplicated for each version of docbook | 18:55 |
| jaeger | at least 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, and 4.5 | 18:55 |
| maro | jaeger: that's actually what I use | 18:56 |
| jaeger | works well? | 18:56 |
| maro | I only have a local copy of 4.1.2 (since that's the most commonly used), the others are fetched from the net | 18:56 |
| maro | sure | 18:57 |
| jaeger | ah | 18:57 |
| jaeger | that's the way I normally do it but I'm thinking of trying local copies of them all again | 18:57 |
| maro | that's the proper solution | 18:57 |
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| maro | my avoidance is the lazy man's :) | 18:58 |
| jaeger | the only reason that's NOT currently done is because I didn't get it working correctly last time | 18:58 |
| jaeger | the 4.1.2 stuff seems to work great, at least :P | 18:58 |
| maro | ;) | 18:58 |
| jaeger | I guess it's time to try again | 18:59 |
| maro | jaeger: you'll probably have to redefine pkgmk_extract_sources() (or whatever that function is called) in the pkgfile | 18:59 |
| jaeger | I've done that before | 18:59 |
| maro | jaeger: did you remember to register them all in /etc/xml/catalog? | 19:00 |
| maro | (in post-install) | 19:00 |
| jaeger | I believe so but it's been a while. I think so because the post-install was enormous | 19:00 |
| maro | hehe :) | 19:01 |
| * maro wonders why he can't use "sudo sh -x" as runscriptcommand in prt-get | 19:02 | |
| maro | would be much nicer | 19:02 |
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| maro | oh well, off to bed, sleep well when you get fed up with the stylesheets :) | 19:05 |
| jaeger | heh, thanks. take care | 19:05 |
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| nipuL | hmm, that gives me an idea. i have a new angle to attempt to solve the multiarch pickle | 19:36 |
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