IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2007-10-20

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prologicteK, no, I"ll get around to it in a couple of days03:00
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teKk. version=4.7.2 is the only new line,btw03:05
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tilmanglibc 2.7 is out o_O03:55
teKk3wl!1104:24
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RedShifttilman: changelog? performance enhancements?05:47
tilmandunno05:50
tilmanjust found it funny/crazy that they went from 2.6 to 2.7 so quickly05:50
RedShifttilman: sounds like some packagers got bored and pushed a new release *g*05:51
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schniggi1hi all13:35
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teKhello13:38
schniggieand all right ?13:39
teKwaiting for cptn to (not) accept my patch for prt-get :)13:44
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onestepI'm away14:45
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teKthx for the info14:45
teKI'm here14:45
one|away:)14:45
teK;)14:46
jjpk"bonus" information ;)14:50
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RyoSi am going for a piss~ laters my friends =)15:08
teKmay I come with you (wlan/laptop)15:09
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RyoSsure teK, you are welcome15:11
RyoSmy bathroom is big enough for #crux15:11
RyoSyou all are invited15:11
RyoSlets get mass away message flood, party time15:11
teKk15:12
tilmano_O15:18
RyoStilman: join us!15:19
jjpkOpen season for kickbans? :D15:21
aonlol15:21
RyoSjjpk: join us~ :D15:22
thrice`-_-15:22
teKmy hobby: taking totally uninterested people with me to my bathroom15:22
RyoSthrice`: may i hand you a "wachturm"? *SCNR* join out "mass away message" religion15:23
RyoS*our15:23
thrice`isn't wachturm a watch tower?15:24
teKright15:24
RyoSi is15:24
thrice`auf Deutsch15:24
RyoS*it is15:24
thrice`hm...ok :)15:24
RyoSits the magazine of the "Zeugen Jehovas" :D15:24
teKJehovas Wittnesses15:24
thrice`ah - that one I didn't know15:25
teKtoday: things you don't have to know15:25
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tilmanugh, my hdd sounds bad15:36
thrice`building a 2.4 iso? ;)15:37
tilmanno15:38
thrice`wow, another glibc is out? :|15:39
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majykanyone built a firefox 2.0.0.8 port? I've attempted to tweak the 2.0.0.7 port and 2 compiles later (with no errors) firefox doesn't work: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.17:58
majykoops, apparently it runs as root but won't run as a normal user18:00
Romstermajyk, permission issue18:03
Romstermajyk, jaeger i think is attempting to sort the mess out.18:03
majykah18:04
Romsteron another note k3b keeps saying cdrecord won't be run in root mode...18:04
Romsterdriving me nuts i got cdrecord as root:cdrom and chmod 471118:04
jaegermajyk: I haven't had time to mess with it today but built it a few times yesterday and it creates a lot of files that need to have their perms corrected. I'm gonna have to spend some time comparing the 2.0.0.7 footprint with it, most likely18:05
jaegermay have time to do it tomorrow, going out tonight18:05
Romsterjaeger, yeah i was thinking of the comparing footprints between the 218:06
Romsterjaeger, would you have any solution to k3b saying cdrecord won't run as root?18:07
Romsteri'm puzzeled.18:07
jaegerI'm not familiar with k3b beyond having used it only once or twice... maybe a setuid issue18:07
majykno problem jaeger18:08
majykI am messing with it18:08
jaegerok18:08
majykit runs fine as root, I'll do a diff against both foot prints18:08
Romsterok if i run k3b as root it dosn't complain but then it cant' find growisofs executable18:08
Romsterhmm18:08
Romster-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 79K Apr  4  2007 /usr/bin/growisofs18:09
Romsteri'll set cdrecord to that and hope.18:09
jaegerwell, if it's a common issue I'm sure google will turn up some useful info18:10
Romsteri've looked said to use 471118:10
Romsterthat didn't work18:10
Romsterunles kwb needs the 's' bit too?18:10
Romsterunless k3b*18:10
jaegerperhaps, no idea18:11
jaegerit doesn't seem to me like it'd be necessary18:12
Romstersame permissions as growisofs yet it complains about cdrecord... and not growisof18:12
Romsterguess i'll google more.18:13
jaegeris it k3b complaining or cdrecord itself?18:13
Romsterk3b18:13
Romstersays cdrecord won't be ran in root mode.18:14
jaegerah18:14
Romsterbut it will if i run k3b in root mode but that isn't wise18:14
Romsterbut in root mode it can't find growisofs!18:14
Romstergrowisofs and cdrecord both have same permissions now.18:15
Romster-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 309K Oct 21 08:24 /usr/bin/cdrecord18:15
Romster-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  79K Apr  4  2007 /usr/bin/growisofs18:15
Romster-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.1M Jul 26 21:57 /usr/bin/k3b18:15
jaegersounds pretty odd18:15
Romsteryeah really is it a false notice i wonder..18:15
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teK-- ignore --18:37
Romsterok this is funky18:40
Romstercdrdao will be run without root privileges18:40
Romsterwhen i remove the 's' bit18:40
Romsteri really think k3b is flawed..18:40
Romstermaybe a rebuild might help.. i got no other ideas..18:41
RomsterteK, what was that prt-get patch ya talked about? i'm running a modifyed prt-get18:41
teKprt-get [command] -do (for downloading sources _only_)18:42
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Romsterah18:43
teKwhat did you modify?18:43
Romsterthere was a way of doing that but wan't a simple command18:44
Romsterhad to use margs and aargs or something.18:44
Romsteroh it's cptn's edit to use prt-cache so i can do fsearch and stuff alot faster from a file than to do it from the filesysems cache18:45
teK--margs does not work on all commands18:46
RomsterteK, http://pastebin.ca/74399418:46
teK3-6-seconds?!18:47
teK% find /usr/ports -type d | wc -l18:47
Romsteradded comment for a second run showing hdd disk caching.18:48
Romsteryeah well it's faster with the patched prt-get ;P18:49
Romsterand quicker to type.18:50
Romsterhmm18:50
teKhow are the chances for inclusion of this modification?18:50
Romster5870 :P18:50
teKsometimes there are _good_ features that do not get merged18:50
Romsternot sure..18:50
teKpercent? ;)18:50
Romsteryou can try it out its on cptn's site18:51
Romsterprt-get 5.15-jw1-218:51
RomsterteK, so whats wrong with sudo prt-get update firefox --margs='-do' ?18:55
Romsteri never did try to do a perventage comparasion you could do that from my results if you like.18:55
teKit does not work for sysup afai18:56
teKk18:56
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Romsterhmm19:00
RomsterteK, sysup --margs=-do works fine..19:02
teKit's not mentioned in prt-get help19:03
teKI relied on that :)19:03
Romster--margs is listed19:04
teK  sysup [opt]                       update all outdated ports19:04
Romsteri think there is one faluere mode19:04
Romsterfalure*19:04
Romsterdon't think there is a way to avoid the pkgadd problem..19:05
teKhu?19:08
teKit's late and I was not at home for some time.. ;)19:08
Romsterwith sysup --margs=-do it still does a pkgadd.19:08
Romsteri find it easier todo a cd /usr/ports/core; pkgmk -r -do19:08
Romsteretc.19:09
Romsteralot simpler imo19:09
teKI talked to a friend and he said "-do" for prt-get would be cool, so let's see what cptn thinks about it19:10
Romster-margs=-do19:10
* Romster can't see why we need to dumbify it more, but i do agree to a patch so --margs=-do dosn't do a pkgadd.19:11
Romsteri think someone pointed out a command line option for this but i forgot it.19:12
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jaegeradd a --fetchdeps option or something19:13
jaegermore intuitive19:13
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Romsterhmm that could work.19:15
Romsterwould make more sense.19:15
teKsame effect, different option?19:17
Romsterhmm19:19
Romsterprtsweep is borked..19:19
Romster$ prtsweep -n -d -p -a19:20
Romstercat: /etc/ports/*.cvsup: No such file or directory19:20
majykI've given up on the permission issues with Firefox 2.0.0.8, I'm not going to go insane because the code installs fucked up files19:21
Romstersomething like prt-get download [all|repo|dependent] maybe?19:22
majyksounds like mozilla's problem to me19:22
Romstermajyk, that bad..19:22
majykRomster, it won't run as a normal user, only as root19:22
Romsterwhy not use find file type -exec chmod ... ?19:22
Romstercompre footprint between current firefox and new one.19:23
majykprobably because I don't know how to write the command to do it19:23
Romsterman find.19:23
majykit's easy to say read the man page19:23
majykI've been on linux for 10 years and there is still a shit load I don't know19:23
teKi'm scared, FF 2.0.0.8 WILL install fucked up _software_ :|19:23
majykor probably have the brain power to know19:23
Romsterand also grep find /usr/ports/opt/*/Pkgfile19:24
Romsterfor examples.19:24
Romsteror core/contrib or anything else.19:24
Romsteris how i figured a sed problem i had once.19:24
Romsteri looked at others.19:24
majykRomster, I modded the 2.0.0.7 port, it builds 2.0.0.8 just fine but some of the permissions in 2.0.0.8 are different than 2.0.0.719:25
majykactually a lot of the files19:25
majykRomster, I know how to make ports19:25
Romstermajyk, i don't know everything either but i look and try to learn19:25
Romstermajyk, then you shouldn't have a problem porting it then.. <_<19:25
majykRomster, haha19:25
Romsterand i know how to make ports too.19:26
majykRomster, the issue is that Firefox 2.0.0.8 is different than 2.0.0.7 in that when the files are installed there are permission variations from 2.0.0.719:26
Romsteri know it be messy but not sure how bad yet.19:26
majykso much so that it doesn't allow a normal user to run firefox19:26
majykthe problem is not because of my lack of knowledge of the find command19:27
majykit's because it's genuinely fucked up19:27
Romsterso why not run chmod over the files?19:27
Romsterok i'm building it now and i'm gonna attack it when i get a footprint of it.19:28
majykbecause that would require time and a pretty nice solution to compare both footprints and fix up the perms, a bash script could do it but I'm not going ot spend 3 hours writing one19:28
Romsterthe way there going it needs to be forked.19:28
majykI'm not a bash scripter19:28
Romsteryou a programmer?19:28
Romsteri've wrote some bash stuff.19:29
majykI do dabble in code I just don't dabble in bash scripting19:29
Romsterk19:29
majykand I am of the mind if the Firefox devs fucked up they need to fix their problem19:29
majyksorry but I don't feel like trying to read minds on how the permission layout of the firefox files go19:30
Romsterthats why i'm gonna look at the footprit files19:30
majykI can email you both footprints =)19:31
Romstersure go ahead :)19:31
majykbut it'd be better if you built it to make sure I am not going crazy19:31
Romsterya can find my email in one of the ports in contrib19:31
majykwhy don't you have a go at building it and see if you can come up with a working firefox19:32
majykthen we can compare notes19:32
Romsteroh i'll defently build it but saves me building it jsut to get the footprint first.19:32
majykI tweaked the 2.0.0.7 port to build 2.0.0.819:32
majykmaybe I did something wrong19:32
Romsterah i jsut bumped the version removed the patch19:32
majykyeah that's what I did19:33
majyk=)19:33
Romsterok i'll compare and figure something out if i can.19:33
Romsterlet me know when you've emaield me the footprint.19:35
majykRomster, what is your email address19:37
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Romsterromster at shortcircuit dot net dot au19:38
Romsterkinda figured you'd get it from greping contrib :P19:39
majykRomster, I didn't know your email was in some of the contrib ports19:39
Romsterall of mine it is.19:39
majyksent19:39
Romster150 or so..19:40
Romsterta19:40
majykI was always of the mind that there should have been only 2 repositories, core and opt, if a port wasn't core than it should have been dumped in opt19:41
majykand that goes for every port19:41
Romsterseems sourceforge si borked i can't download nfs-utils19:41
majykbut instead we have core, opt, contrib, fuck, foo, bar, shit, piss, blah19:41
Romsteryeah ops is maintainers version of contrib.19:41
teKmajyk: yhafri + all other ports ~= 6000 Ports or so..19:42
Romsterwell i agree to kde, gnome, xorg stuff being in there own repo.19:42
majykso from an end user perspective you have to dig through the hundreds of user repositories and add them manually19:42
Romsterand private repos they can do whatever i wouldn't want junk in a main repo.19:42
Romsteror edit pre-get to include them or throw them all in your own private repo.19:43
Romsterya can include single packages from a repo.19:43
teKI think CRUX is very cool just like the way it is at present. (thx :>)19:44
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RomsterteK, yeah i'd hate to see everything in one repo...19:50
Romsterit would be one huge mess.19:51
Romsterand not everyone would trust contrib but would trust opt?19:51
teKthat does not mean, I'd love to see CRUX being bash-neutral (YES!)19:51
Romsterwell i agree being bash-netual if thats what i think it means not stuck on bash and able to use other shells.19:52
Romstermajyk, jaeger new firefox has alot of permission changes but looks simple enougth to correct.19:52
teKright19:52
majykRomster, I was using a tweaked 2.0.0.7 one, not jaegers19:54
majykRomster, having 800 repositories is just as big a mess19:54
Romsteri'm using the one in opt and editing that.19:55
majykyeah me too19:55
Romsteri did a diff -u of the new and old footprint19:55
majykso did I =)19:55
Romstermainly 2 fiels types i've spoted that need altering.19:55
Romsterfind $PKG/usr/include/firefox/ -type f -name '*.h' -exec chmod 744 {} \;19:56
Romsterthat would i think fix the header files.19:56
Romsterlooking at the rest of it.19:56
Romsterah and gotta add cfg to that list too.19:56
Romster644* typo..20:00
Romsteranyway i'll see how i go.20:00
Romstermajyk, ok not sure if i'm 100% right but here goes first test http://pastebin.ca/74405220:12
Romsterthats what i added.20:12
Romsternot ideal but it's just a test to see if i got it all.20:12
* majyk looks20:13
Romsterlet me knwo if i got a bug in that code.20:13
Romsterknow*20:13
Romsteri'd rather know now than later :P20:13
majykdid your port work with that?20:14
Romsteri'm about to find out when it finally compiles.20:14
Romsterand see if i get a permission mismatch after.20:15
majykok20:15
majykit'll take me at least 45 minutes to compile again20:15
Romsterdid you remove both patches or just one?20:16
Romster$name-2.0-add-ldflags.patch $name-nopangoxft.patch20:16
majykjust the nopangoxft20:17
Romsterk20:17
majykthe only reason I removed that one is because the build was complaining about it20:17
majyksaying something like it'd be removing a patch that was already included20:17
Romsterah20:18
Romsterreversed?20:18
majykyeah20:18
Romsterso that patch has been aplyed upstream now.20:18
majykthat's my take on it20:18
majyk=)20:18
Romsteryou should really look at ccache if you recompile stuff alot.20:19
Romsterand distcc if you got more than one computer to put to use.20:20
Romsterboth in contrib.20:20
Romsterimo firefox is geting way bloated.20:21
Romsterif i knew enougth i'd hack at it.20:21
Romstersadly i don't know /that/ much.20:21
Romstermaybe enougth to get me in trouble <_<20:22
Romsterenough*20:22
teKbloated is an understatement20:22
teKfrom 1.5.x to 2.0.x it got unusable on my 400MHz machine20:22
Romstermajyk, how long ya been on crux for? i've been on since crux 2.1 came out sometime after that and well before 2.220:23
RomsterteK, oh..20:23
majyksince 0.9.320:23
Romstermajyk, yikes20:23
majykthere is still tons I don't know though so don't let that fool you =)20:24
majykhaha20:24
majykI keep coming back to Crux20:24
Romsteroh i don't know that much either really.20:24
majykI try new stuff out occasionally20:24
Romsterif i ever did move from crux it would haev to be LFS20:24
teKwith pkgtools <320:24
majykbut in the end it ends up sucking in some way so I come back to my security blanket Crux20:24
Romsterbut why beat a good package manager.20:25
RomsterPkgfiles are great i can useally wip a new port up in no time.20:25
majykexactly20:25
majykdebian packages require a PhD20:26
Romsterits finding out ti has a million dependencys that no one has packlages for already that bugs me.20:26
Romsteryeah really. i've seen them and nearly fell out of my chair.20:26
majykI don't particularly like building a port that has 10 other ports that need built as well but in the end nothing is as simple as a Pkgfile20:27
majykit's easily readable20:27
majykand most importantly it's easily hackable20:27
Romstertrue, i've had to build other dependencys many of times.20:27
Romsteris why i throw common ones in contrib20:27
majykI don't know why packages like RPM, DEB, Gentoo Ebuilds need to be so damned complicated20:28
Romsteri try and save the headache of redoing librarys that are used for alot of things.20:28
Romsterno idea..20:28
majykwhich is another reason why I prefer Crux20:28
majykI don't have to have a college degree in order to build a package20:28
Romsterthey make it the art of Makefiles and storing there patched source files.20:28
Romsterone thing i'd like todo and i haven't bothered yet is to use lzma instead of tar.gz for packages.20:29
Romsterand not sure if it is worth it or not.20:29
majykI've never heard of lzma20:30
Romsterfaster and more compression than gz or slower and even better compression.20:30
Romster7zip uses it but lzma and 7zip are a bit diferent in format.20:30
Romsterprt-get info lzma20:30
Romsteroh i didn't put that in contrib20:31
Romsterhttp://tukaani.org/lzma/20:31
Romsterhome page20:31
majykeven better compression than bzip2?20:33
majykthat is impressive20:33
morlenxusHey, does someone already use kernel 2.6.23.1?20:35
majykmorlenxus, yes I do20:35
morlenxusDo you use dhcpd client?20:35
majykyes20:35
morlenxusIn /etc/rc.d/net ?20:35
majykyep20:35
morlenxusHm k20:35
Romstermajyk, yep20:35
majykI use it for my wireless card20:35
Romsteri'm still without wifi :P20:36
morlenxusNew kernel stops when running dhcpd client, might be a bad kernel configuration...20:36
teKi'm out. n820:36
Romsterand use static setup.20:36
Romstermorlenxus, rebuilt dhcpd ?20:36
Romstertek night.20:36
morlenxusHm why should i?20:36
morlenxusIt works with 2.6.20.320:36
Romsterdoes it even link to kernel code?20:37
morlenxusSo might be a missing kernel option.20:37
morlenxusI don't guess so?20:37
Romsterwell did you do make oldconfig?20:37
morlenxusIt does?20:37
Romsternot sure but i was asking.20:37
morlenxusYes, but i also did some little changes.20:37
morlenxusNothing important imho20:37
Romsterthen go back over and double check do a diff of both config files maybe.20:38
morlenxusyepp20:38
morlenxusMight be the best.20:38
morlenxusJust wanted to make sure that the kernel works for someone else.20:38
Romstermight be some change that you need to enable something else or one of your changes.20:38
majykI don't know, I never had any issues with the dhcpcd client20:39
Romsterwtching code compile is fun :P20:39
Romsterwatching*20:39
Romsteri'd do a google there could be a aptch floating about for dhcp20:40
Romsterlike tilman had to make one for kqemu20:40
Romsteri'd be guessing some call to the kernel has altered.20:41
Romsterif it's not your config changes.20:41
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majyk[majyk@serenity ~]> pkginfo -i | grep dhcpcd20:42
majykdhcpcd 3.1.6-120:42
Romsteri really need a new hdd this one is nearly full.20:42
majykLinux serenity 2.6.23.1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Oct 14 12:04:35 UTC 2007 i686 athlon-4 i386 GNU/Linux20:42
morlenxushm20:42
Romstermajyk, you in sa?20:42
majyksa?20:43
Romsterah no your ahead of me..20:43
Romsterahead of my time by 40 minutes O_o20:43
majykI'm in the US20:43
Romsteroh ok 24h time20:44
Romsterso it's just past midnight there.20:44
majykno it's 9:40'ish20:44
majykgive or take20:45
majykpm20:45
majykI'm on the east coast20:45
thrice`majyk: where are you?20:45
Romster-majyk- TIME Sat Oct 20 21:47:2520:45
thrice`aah20:45
majykvirginia20:45
majykmy clock is a bit fast it would seem20:45
RomsterOct 14 12:04:35 UTC20:45
Romsterwhy don't that match up?20:45
majykmy cell phone says it's 9:4020:45
Romsteropenntpd :)20:45
majykI compiled on the 14th20:46
Romsterah right...20:46
majykat 12:04:3520:46
* Romster got confused...20:46
Romsterok i need coffee.20:46
Romsterlol this looks promising20:46
Romsterfirefox build20:46
RomsternsGlobalWindow.cpp:6187: warning: 'abuseLevel' may be used uninitialized in this function20:46
Romsterthe fact it's 'abuseLevel' <_< the irony20:47
morlenxusmajyk: Can you send me your kernel config for 2.6.23.3?20:50
morlenxuswops20:50
morlenxus2.6.23.120:50
majyksure20:50
majykmorlenxus, what is your email address?20:50
morlenxusmorlenxus@gmx.net20:51
morlenxusThank you20:51
majykno problem20:51
majykgimme a couple minutes20:51
Romsterzcat /proc/kernel.gz > config20:51
Romstersomething like that20:51
majykmorlenxus, sent20:52
Romsteralthough i save my kernel cofigs into /boot20:52
Romsterconfigs*20:52
morlenxusmajyk: thx20:52
majykno problem20:52
Romstersure hope this fixes firefox.. *waits*20:53
* majyk hope it fixes it too20:53
majykhaha20:53
Romstermajyk, if you had ccache installed you'd be done compiling way before me.20:53
majykI wonder how the perms got screwed up in the install20:53
majykyeah20:53
Romsterbe from the source file.20:53
Romsterextract with permissions in pkgmk20:54
majykon another note has anyone had issues with vlc, specifically when playing music the music has crackles and pops in it? The same music is perfectly fine within beep-media-player.20:54
Romsterso point the finger to mozilla devs20:54
majykRomster, yp20:54
majykyep20:54
Romsteroh sound buffer? and i haven't sued vlc20:54
Romsterused*20:55
Romsteri'm so glad i'm not a layer20:55
Romsterloyer i so can't spell..20:55
majykI have vlc installed because it can play more formats but any format the song crackles and pops, whereas in beep-media-player the song is smooth and plays normally20:55
Romstermajyk, i'd also check the output device.20:56
majykI don't know, I've used vlc before (same version) on Gentoo and had no issues20:56
Romstervlc might be using soemthing diferent to bmp20:56
majykRomster, I set it to alsa which is what I'm using20:56
majykyeah20:56
Romsterk20:56
Romsterdoes it use the same librarys as bmp?20:56
majykI don't think so20:56
majykit has a huge dependency tree20:57
Romstergstreamer?20:57
majykI don't think so, but I can't remember20:57
* Romster does a deptree20:57
majykit took me a long time to compile it with prt-get20:57
Romsterhmm no vlc...20:57
majykthere are a shit load of packages it depends on20:57
Romsterbe just as bad as my bmpx port in my repo20:58
Romstermajyk, you using jagers repo for vlc?20:59
Romsterdosn't look that huge of a deptree.. if you removed samba21:00
Romsterbmpx is alot worse.21:00
Romsterhmm i so need to fix the dependencys on libvisual21:01
majykRomster, yeah21:03
majykI'm using jaegers port of vlc21:03
Romsteri got lazy and just added xorg as dependencys.21:04
Romsteri should narrow it down t the exact modules it uses.21:04
majykI think the reason I thought it had a big tree is because I installed it on a fresh Crux install, it took a lot of compiling21:04
Romsterah probabbly.21:04
majykbmp was quick prolly cuz all the other junk was already there =)21:05
Romsteryeah21:06
Romstermsot of it is used by other stuff.21:06
Romstermost*21:06
Romsterso love dynamic librarys :)21:06
Romsterwhat i really hate about firefox is it's bundiling of librarys, and not using the system librarys.21:09
Romsterand the fact firefox is geting so bit it should be modularised like X11R6 and xorg 7 did.21:10
Romsters/bit/big21:10
majykyeah21:10
majykit's huge21:10
Romsterso that way you only install the core of it and what ever you use.21:11
Romsterand updates arn't so much a pain when there is many smaller packages.21:11
Romsterit's like rebuilding a million lines of code for one small change..21:12
Romsterif i didn't like firefox so much i'd move to opera.21:13
Romsteri used to use mozilla suite <_<21:13
majykI may move to the prebuilt firefox's21:14
majykI haven't noticed any differences from my compiled firefox to the ones I download from the website21:15
majykeven the downloaded one is i686 optimized21:15
Romsterseems to be..21:16
Romsterbut i bet it has the same permission problems <_<21:16
Romsteri dispise binary ports personally.21:16
Romsterwould prefer it to be optomised for my exact hardware.21:17
majykactually the binary from getfirefox.com of 2.0.0.8 works fine21:17
majykI just downloaded it21:18
Romsteri'm expecting you got a fast computer and i got distcc on some slower computers so this should be intersting to see if i get this compiled before you do.21:18
Romsteroh..21:18
Romsterthat's funky.21:18
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majykoh I wasn't compiling actually, I was waiting for yours to complete to see if your changes fixed the issue21:19
Romsteroh.21:20
Romsterfrom what you said earlier it'll take another 45 minutes to compile, that you where too21:21
Romsteri'm on a accent 1.4GHz k7 with a another pc 667Mhz that i got distcc on.21:22
majykyeah it would but I didn't start it again21:22
Romstersomeday i'll get a AM221:22
Romsterdual or quad21:22
Romsterand some compile farm happening too using minture atx boards.21:22
majyksince you had started the compile I figured I'd let it finish,no need to start 2 compiles if one was not going to fix the issue21:23
Romsteri've seen the lunchbox compile farm.21:23
Romstertrue.21:23
Romsteri'm just hoping i didn't miss anything.21:23
Romsterbut then again if i have to edit and recompile it'll be cached in ccache.21:23
Romsterso it wouldn't take as long todo if i had too.21:24
Romsteri copyed the old .footprint back so if it don't diff too much or at all i'll be happy21:24
majykI never fix anything if the diffs are new files21:25
Romsterif it does alot i'll do the same tatic again and find what i missed.21:25
majykI just update the footprint and rock and roll21:25
Romsternew files is diferent.21:25
majykmissing files are bad21:25
majyk=)21:25
Romsterbut there is cases that i build in a chroot and miss some files, becasue i've ahd people complain of misisng files in say xine.21:25
Romsterthat whre only other sound drivers. that where safe to ignore but got sick of the same retarded question.21:26
Romsterit looked obvious they there output sound drivers too.21:26
majykI've had the mind to use a vmware sandbox with just a crux core loaded so I can build packages isolated to just the core OS to determine what deps something has21:26
Romsterfor jack etc.21:26
majykbut I haven't taken the time to do that yet21:26
Romstermajyk, i got a safe-build package i've made that does that to some simaer degree.21:27
Romsteri need to update it.21:27
Romsterhttp://romster.shortcircuit.net.au/crux/ports/safe-build/21:27
Romsterno need to goto vmware. there is qemu too but i find a chroot works good enougth.21:28
Romsterdon't mind the version i stuck on it it works and well, but i haven't used it in quite awhile.21:30
Romsteri use it to check for missing dependencys.21:30
majykok21:30
majykthanks21:30
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Romsteri'll get into editing it more seems to be a handy tool21:31
Romsterjust needs to be polished up more21:31
Romsteroh btw the system install seems broken sue the cd image to install from if you use it.21:31
Romster /sue/use21:31
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Romstersomeone else did a simpler version http://lokalix.dyndns.org/tmp/crux/21:33
Romsterbut it don't do what mine does.21:33
majykok21:33
Romsterso take a pick or use your method.21:33
Romsterlooks like install stage of make now.21:34
Romsterabout time.21:34
Romsteri never timed this either..21:34
Romsterreally demented permisions if you ask me.21:35
Romstercoffee brb21:36
Romstermajyk, you may know, with the progra install, is there anyway to get install to do recursive install with sub directorys instead of having to do it with cp -r ?21:50
Romsteri've never found a solution with install.21:50
Romsterfinally it's going though my find commands now.21:53
Romsterbuilt but missed stuff, knew it <_< editing more.22:00
Romstermajyk, had to alter some stuff but it's looking alot better.22:11
Romsterjaeger, i think i got firefox sorted if you havn't been reading, i've added find statements to chmod files doing a second compile now.22:16
Romsteri'll send you the diff when i'm done if it all works,22:16
majykRomster, I don't know, this is the first time I tried to tweak the FF port22:19
majykRomster, does it work?22:20
Romsterah i missed some permission on it so i'm rebuilding first.22:31
Romsterthis /should/ be the last rebuild though.22:31
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Romsterand it'll be alot faster since objects are cached now22:31
Romsterhi treach22:31
treachyo22:32
majykRomster, sweet22:32
Romsteri'm attacking firefox port :P22:32
Romsternearly got it sorted i hope.22:32
Romsteron another note 'search and replace' in gvim. where the hell is the option to use reguler expressions...22:32
treach"now with 50% less bloat"?22:33
Romstertreach, i wish.22:33
treach(too much to hope for I guess)22:33
Romsteri'm just using a stack of find statements and chmod'ing22:33
Romsteri'm trying to add "\t\t<li><a href="">" to the start of some lines in gvim, looks like i'll have todo it the slow way..22:34
treachman I wish I knew why crux_x86-64 works like a charm on this box, while plain 2.3 gives me all kinds of problems. :/22:34
Romstercan't use sed unless i'm careful of what lines to only touch.22:34
Romsterhmm22:35
Romsterdiff the enitre ports repo?22:35
Romsteragenst the two.22:35
Romsterwhat sort of problems?22:35
treachall sorts of IOAPIC, acpi and timer crap.22:35
Romstermaybe the cpu has shitty 32 bit support too22:35
Romstereww22:36
treachbasically I have to use "noapic" to get it running, and that makes it unstable.22:36
Romsteryou did have the kernel compiled to only 32 bit when you had 32bit crux on?22:36
treachyeah22:36
Romsteri guess bad kernel support..22:36
Romsterin 32 bit mode.22:37
* Romster shrugs22:37
treachI have no idea, tbh.22:37
treachjust bloody annoying22:37
Romsterme neather but it's odd.22:37
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Romsteri bet it would be, but why run 32 bit on a 64 bit system?22:41
Romsterother than compatability with old 32 bit stuff.22:41
treachsome apps doesn't like 64 bit.22:41
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treacheg, java doesn't like a pure 64 bit system, some codecs apparently doesn't like it either etc.22:42
Romsterand you can't have a dual /lib and /lib64 system?22:42
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treachI guess I could, but this isn't it, yet.22:42
Romsterok firefox built now to check footprint again.22:43
treach:>22:43
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treachI like to see the cpu load while building ff. ~2x40% :p22:44
Romsterlol22:51
majykRomster, did it work this time?22:51
Romsterseems to have the right permissions i'm just closing my other one then install and give it a real test22:52
majykRomster, what's the verdict?22:58
Romstergah broken22:58
Romster$ firefox22:58
Romster/usr/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 27716 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}22:58
Romsterpos program22:58
majyk=(22:59
Romsterall i did was correct file permissions nothing else besides removing that one patch22:59
majykat the moment I'm using the 2.0.0.8 binary provided by mozilla22:59
majykit works fine22:59
majykthe source code is fucked22:59
majykwell at least at the moment23:00
majykI'll log in tomorrow to the firefox channel and report this tragedy23:00
majykapparently nobody realizes this23:00
majykgotta run... see ya Romster23:00
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Romsterk23:01
Romsteri'll go over my footprint and see if i've missed something.23:01
Romsteri should goto #mozilla and bitch to them right now infact...23:01
nipuLobviously the source code isn't that bad if you're using a binary that works fine23:02
Romsteri'm guessing i messed a permission up23:04
Romsteri'll patebin the footprint.23:04
Romstergah i should of got him to give me the footprint of the binary.. or unless that file he sent was that.23:04
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Romsteri can do a diff on that and see where i went wrong.23:05
Romsterah i see it some header files need to be xecutable.23:10
Romsteri changed them all to 644..23:10
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Romsteredit and recompile again then maybe i'll have some luck. since when do header files need to be executable?23:10
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treachsince idiots took over?23:12
Romsterheh23:12
treach"no code in headerfiles"23:12
treachI think that's the first thing they tell you about C.23:13
treachok, time to make another attempt at sleep() :/23:15
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* Romster recompiles again.23:18
Romstermy cure is worse than the desease in this case. <_<23:19
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Romstergood nick mafarka can see ident and looks like acrux :p23:36

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