IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2007-11-08

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pitillogood morning01:21
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Romsterand my net keeps dying on me and irc is geting netsplits hmm.02:43
Romsterrelated maybe..02:43
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namenloshi, a pretty newbie question: i am compiling a program which includes <tcpd.h>, but when i then want to compile all objects to one executeable it says, that the functions used are not there.03:40
namenloscan i link against usr/lib/libwrap.a?03:40
namenlosi don't think so (and i don't have a clue, what *.a files are)03:41
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Romsterthen the power goes off for jsut long enougth to reset everything...04:44
Romsteri'm having one of them days..04:45
RedShiftnamenlos: you better join a C development channel for that :-)04:45
Romsternamenlos, *.a files are static librarys the opersate of a dynamic library of *.so04:45
Romsteryou link objects *.o04:46
Romsternamenlos, http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/gccintro_17.html04:51
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Romsterseems it does use the static library *.a04:52
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namenlosRomster: thx06:37
Romsternp06:46
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thrice`I hate trying to find german "technical" words, and haven't to try and decide off of a list of 20+ possibilities07:07
namenloshehe, maybe i can help you07:13
thrice`heh...alright.  We have a flange on an actuator, and I'm trying to ask how much force it can see before breaking07:15
thrice`wissen Sie, was für einen Einfluss, dass der Flansch des Aktuators (44mm von oben) einsieht kann, bevor es Kaput wird?07:15
thrice`is that comprehensible ?07:16
namenloswhat about the word "Kraft"?07:18
tilmanthrice`: no, it's not07:18
namenloswas für eine Kraft der Flansch des Aktuators...07:19
tilmanwhat kind of idiot company doesn't give support in english!?07:19
thrice`I have to email my german colleague.  if it's in german, he'll respond quicker than english07:20
namenlosin which direction are we translating from english to german or vice versa?07:20
thrice`I'm going english to german07:21
namenloswith "force it can see" you mean the force it can stand before breaking?07:22
thrice`yes, exactly07:22
namenlosKönnen Sie mir sagen, welche Kraft der Flansch (whatever that is) aushält, bevor er kaputt geht. I would try that one.07:23
namenlosor instead of "welche Kraft" you could write "welchen Druck" this might be better07:24
thrice`Druck was the word I was thinking, but these technical words are where I struggle07:25
namenloshehe07:25
tilmanjust write "welche Kraft bzw. welchen Druck"07:25
tilmanhe'll know what you mean :P07:25
namenlosyes07:25
thrice`ok - thank you so much :)07:26
namenlosnp07:26
Romsteri'd be laughing if that was some dirty sentance :P07:28
thrice`"please fire me!"07:29
namenloslike: http://www.german-bash.org/52732 ;)07:31
RedShiftnow if I could only read that german...07:32
Romsterlol07:33
thrice`heh07:33
namenlosthe first one is "let go driving bus"07:33
namenlosthe second "your breast is as flat as the bodensee"07:34
RedShiftah07:34
RedShiftI only knew this german line: Willen sie meinen swanz blazen?07:35
namenloshm, anyone knows a good c channel on freenode?07:42
namenlosstill got problems with this static library thing.07:42
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Romsternamenlos, what part might find what you need to know.07:45
namenlosgcc still seems to not be able to find the functions/stucts... defined in the tcpd.h which are build into the /usr/lib/libwrap.a. but nm lists them...07:47
Romsterhmm patebin what the file has and compile command would help in any case i if can or someone else07:52
namenloshttp://sial.org/pbot/2849807:53
namenlosok, the script is bad.07:54
Romsterwhat the locale encoding are you using there lol..07:56
namenlosde_AT.utf807:56
namenlosscript acted in an unexpeceted way. i thought it would leave out the tabs...07:57
namenlosmom07:57
Romsterah wondered why i'm seeing odd chars.07:59
Romsteri can't see a problem..07:59
namenlosRomster: is not final now, but the failure is reproduceable, and all informations are available: http://www.deri.at/~richardp/openbsd-inetd.tar.gz08:03
RedShiftOpenBSD?08:04
RedShiftwhy don't we go directly back to medieval calculators :)08:05
namenlosyes, in the past i have tried to use the openbsd sourced directly, but then i wold have to mess around with the strcpy call on my own.08:05
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namenlosor what the function ever is called.08:05
Romsterwhy mess with that anyways08:06
namenlosbecause i think openbsd is more reliable.08:09
RedShiftyour thought is imagination08:10
namenlosi would not say, that a linux system compiled only versions available from upstream without patches is not more reliable than a openbsd system.08:12
namenlosi should not say reliable. it shoudl be secure.08:13
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namenlosthink of the bind cache poisoning bug a view months ago.08:13
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Romsteri didn't read about that, or know about it.08:35
Romsterthat bug, but i know about poisoned cache.08:35
namenloshttp://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118541938332036&w=208:46
Romsteri see,,09:07
Romsteranyways i'm off to bed.09:07
namenlosgood night09:09
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tilmanjaeger: remember the xcb assertion failures that bugged you?13:05
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treach"netsplit bonanza"13:44
jaegertilman: vaguely, yes13:47
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tilmanjaeger: the new libxcb provides an environment variable that you can set to disable the crash13:51
tilmanyou will still get a (ugly) backtrace, but the app wil work13:51
tilmani forget for which apps you needed that13:51
teKexport XCB_NOCRASH="YES" :D13:52
tilmani only know of java (which can be fixed/worked around)13:52
tilmanjaeger: does that sound acceptable?13:53
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jaegertilman: I don't see that we've much of a choice but if it works, it works13:55
jaegernot that I remember now what apps were problematic13:56
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Romstermorning14:21
mxqevening ;)14:22
Romsterseems everyone says evening :D14:31
tilmanevening14:35
Romsterfigured <_<14:38
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Romsterstill geting server splits, something major must be flaky14:44
teKApparently we've annoyed a kiddie and he doesn't have anything better to do than packet a few of our servers.14:45
RedShift2teK: "we've"? You're a freenode server admin?14:46
teK</quote> ;-)14:47
teKsorry for the inconvenience14:47
RedShift2ah14:47
RedShift2just read the service announcement just now14:48
RedShift2damn kiddies :X14:48
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teKc'mon ddos MS.. you know like.. get a life14:51
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Romsterlol14:54
Romsterwould be nice if they did DDoS MS14:55
teKwell.. I don't care, although I have to admit that it would be funny14:56
RedShift2IIRC they are working with akamai14:57
teKjep14:57
RedShift2these guys have so much bandwidth...14:57
Romsterbet it's all from rooted windoze.14:58
Romsterall them root kit torjans and worms.14:58
teKyeah the circle is closed, so microsoft does suck :o14:58
Romsterseems to be a phase, look st me i'm cool14:58
Romsters/st/at14:59
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treachMicrosoft was cool at some time?15:41
teKhttp://web.archive.org/web/19961020014044/http://www.microsoft.com/ (yeah)15:42
rehabdollfancy15:44
treachmmmh?15:44
treachinteresting in a way. since it's obvious they weren't such a monopoly back then as they are today.15:46
teKi think they always have been dirtbags :>15:46
treachof course15:47
treachbut can you get your hands on *anything* beta from them today without an expensive msdn license etc?15:47
treach*Legally* I mean15:48
teKinnovative! (2007, right?)15:48
teKmount: /dev/ftp/1 cannot read super-block is bad, isn't it?15:48
treachdepends :)15:48
treachprobably - yes.15:48
treach"I'm in ur super-block munchin ur data"15:49
teKit's just because of those shitty S-ATA connectors being the suckiest suck that ever sucked a suck15:49
treachhey, don't complain.. they beat those lousy ata-cables any day..15:50
teKif they would stay connected, yes15:50
treachI've never had any problem with that..15:50
teKi never had no problem15:50
teKI'll grab my hot-glue gun (or how you may call it) and glue this mess15:51
treachotoh, I've broken a number of ata connectors when I've tried to disconnect the disk..15:51
teKthe connectors are inexpensive15:51
teKI broke some, too15:51
treachthat's *bad* design15:51
teKwith _solid_ connectivity15:52
treachI have had 0 problems with sata connectors.. what are you doing with your disks? Putting them on rockets?15:52
teKthe BIOS detects the discs but as soon as I try to mount them I get exception Emask.. action 0x2 frozen15:54
treachwoups..15:54
treach<- afk, refreshments. :)15:55
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sepenanyone has configure an internal multicard reader, any idea if I need hotplug subsystem for it?16:21
treach"No"?16:36
RedShift2LOL16:38
RedShift2TCP/IP - Toilet Connection Pipeline/International Plumbing16:38
tilman>> +               /* That's the wall clock, not the water closet */16:38
tilman>> +               u64 wc_sec;16:38
tilman>> +               u64 wc_nsec;16:38
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