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| blokkie | hi all | 03:26 |
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| Romster | hi blokkie | 03:29 |
| blokkie | Hi Romster , how are you doing on this beautiful sunday ? | 03:29 |
| Romster | eating dinner right now << | 03:30 |
| blokkie | I'm still strugling with the dma for my hd | 03:42 |
| Romster | damn | 04:09 |
| Romster | maybe use the generic driver and just set the dma on in hdpram then.. i have no other ideas, | 04:10 |
| rehabdoll | try other cables | 04:14 |
| Romster | it's a laptop so i'm guessing it plugs straight in? | 04:20 |
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| DarkNekros | good morning everyone ;) | 04:27 |
| blokkie | Romster: via hdparm it says : no permission | 04:29 |
| blokkie | which indicates I don't have the good kernel | 04:29 |
| blokkie | so I cannot set it via grub or hdparm | 04:29 |
| blokkie | now I'm gonna try again with the arcchlinux .config and set root=/dev/sda instead of /dev/hda | 04:30 |
| Romster | blokkie, as root? | 04:30 |
| blokkie | morning DarkNekros | 04:30 |
| blokkie | Romster: yes as roott | 04:30 |
| * Romster shrugs | 04:30 | |
| blokkie | it's a known issue | 04:30 |
| Romster | you really need to read up on others with that ide model | 04:31 |
| blokkie | if the driver is not good .. hdparm can'tttttt set it as well | 04:31 |
| Romster | yeah | 04:31 |
| Romster | driver issue.. | 04:31 |
| blokkie | yeah | 04:31 |
| blokkie | I know the issue is known for kernel 23 | 04:31 |
| blokkie | but I'm trying , can't blame mmmme for that :) | 04:31 |
| Romster | well goto 22? | 04:33 |
| Romster | 23 does have alot of changes so maybe 2.6.22.x will work for you. | 04:33 |
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| Rotwang | hi all, i have problem with my usb mouse after updates, i get error: usb-multismart mouse: unable to parse 'realaxis0' as a map specifier | 04:54 |
| Rotwang | so i can move my mouse only horizontaly | 04:56 |
| Rotwang | but not vertically | 05:01 |
| rehabdoll | have you tried libata instead of the old ide-drivers? | 05:01 |
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| tilman | Rotwang: is this with the evdev input driver? | 05:48 |
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| Rotwang | tilman yes | 06:04 |
| Rotwang | im trying to compile with some patch | 06:04 |
| tilman | Rotwang: try "man 4 evdev", maybe the name of the option changed | 06:05 |
| Rotwang | I hadnt found anything interesting there | 06:07 |
| tilman | Rotwang: you could also use xorg-xf86-input-mouse, no? | 06:08 |
| Rotwang | i tried but it loads evdev | 06:09 |
| Romster | rehabdoll, ah yeah i never thought to ask blokkie if he was using the libata | 06:12 |
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| tri | moin | 06:35 |
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| tilman | mourning | 06:36 |
| Romster | who died? << 'morning' | 06:41 |
| rxi | the engrish language | 06:44 |
| Romster | << | 06:45 |
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| jkr | Ahoy | 07:07 |
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| jkr | Is there anything to be done to upgrade to 2.4 beside change 2-3 to 2.4 in the port files? | 07:08 |
| blokkie | Romster: you here ? | 07:09 |
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| RyoS | jkr: ahoy | 07:10 |
| RyoS | nope i guess not | 07:11 |
| RyoS | i just did that upgrade and seems to work fine for me | 07:11 |
| Romster | yeah i'm here brb though. | 07:13 |
| jkr | Alright, thanks RyoS | 07:14 |
| RyoS | no problem | 07:14 |
| tilman | jkr: boot from the 2.4 cd and select 'upgrade' | 07:14 |
| jkr | tilman: I'm upgrading a remote host | 07:15 |
| jkr | Via ssh | 07:15 |
| tilman | got a rescue system or somesuch? | 07:15 |
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| jkr | Uhm, will I need rescue..? ;) | 07:15 |
| tilman | no idea whether upgrading via ports only is safe | 07:16 |
| tilman | it's better to pkgadd -u the packages from the cd | 07:16 |
| tilman | at least the core system | 07:16 |
| jkr | Hmm, the updated ports don't look too critical to me | 07:16 |
| tilman | glibc? gcc/ | 07:16 |
| tilman | ... | 07:16 |
| jkr | Hmm | 07:16 |
| rehabdoll | i had no issues on two out of two boxes for what its worth | 07:16 |
| jkr | I'll start with some non-critical ports and think about it while they're compiling :) | 07:18 |
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| Romster | jkr, you haev to throw on core recompile the kernel reboot recomple everything else. | 07:24 |
| Romster | i've updated a box remotely not the safeist thing tobe doing. | 07:24 |
| jkr | So first prt-get -fr update /usr/ports/core/*, then rebuild the kernel, reboot, then prt-get sysup? | 07:25 |
| Romster | ah no way | 07:26 |
| Romster | you'd have to rebuild the tool chain first if you were todo that | 07:26 |
| jkr | Hmm | 07:27 |
| Romster | switch to the 2.4 branch ports -u, read the wiki on upgrading the tool chain. then fr the rest of core. | 07:27 |
| jkr | Where can I find that wiki page? | 07:28 |
| Romster | just as easy to do a for p in core/*; do pkgadd -u $p; done off the cd and pkgadd without the -u for misisng packages and remove the old packages. | 07:28 |
| Romster | not sure ware it is i'll upload my text file i got of it. | 07:28 |
| jkr | Thanks | 07:29 |
| Romster | jkr, http://rafb.net/p/Q8AdOQ52.html | 07:31 |
| jkr | Thanks | 07:32 |
| jkr | Is the reboot in step 3 safe? | 07:33 |
| Romster | yes | 07:34 |
| Romster | as the kernel onyl needs itself and glibc that's just a precaution to make sure it's using the new bintos/gcc you could skip the reboot. | 07:35 |
| Romster | bunutils/gcc | 07:35 |
| Romster | gah i an't type... | 07:35 |
| Romster | can't* | 07:35 |
| jkr | Is step 4 neccessary? :) | 07:38 |
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| ickers | Hello all. Does anyone know if a i586 port of CRUX 2.4 planned? | 07:43 |
| jkr | kEh, I mean step 5 | 07:45 |
| tilman | ickers: no idea | 07:51 |
| ickers | ok, thanks :) | 07:53 |
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| Romster | jkr, if it wasn't necessery i wouldn't be in the list... | 08:53 |
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| arvin_ | lo | 08:53 |
| Romster | if you wanna avoid time copy the built package from the iso. | 08:53 |
| Romster | hi | 08:53 |
| arvin_ | is there a difference between crux and gentoo? | 08:56 |
| arvin_ | what's it? | 08:56 |
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| jkr | arvin_: CRUX is cooler | 08:58 |
| Partition | arvin_: crux is simple. | 08:58 |
| Romster | arvin_, have a read on the crux.nu web site. | 08:59 |
| Romster | no use flags source based packages. | 08:59 |
| Romster | KISS principal | 08:59 |
| jkr | No python package manager :D | 08:59 |
| arvin_ | cool :-) | 09:02 |
| Romster | jkr, lol.. | 09:03 |
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| Romster | does gentoo use python for the package manager? | 09:03 |
| tilman | emerge is written in pyfon | 09:05 |
| tilman | just look at an ebuild :P | 09:05 |
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| Romster | never bothered too. | 09:06 |
| Romster | that's suprising. | 09:07 |
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| arvin_ | a god solution for desktop? | 09:10 |
| tilman | many people are using crux on their desktops | 09:15 |
| sepen | arvin_, yeah! | 09:16 |
| mwansa | RyoS, did ya get gnome-vol-man working.. | 09:16 |
| sepen | arvin_, http://mikeux.dyndns.org/tmp/screenshots/office-dual-desktop-2.png | 09:17 |
| arvin_ | i use freebsd for instence | 09:17 |
| RyoS | mwansa: yes | 09:17 |
| RyoS | but dont ask me how.. | 09:17 |
| mwansa | mmh.. | 09:18 |
| Romster | yep using crux on my desktop just boring kde here. | 09:19 |
| RyoS | i recently banned qt* and everything depending on it from my crux install | 09:21 |
| sepen | just use gnome, e17 or xfce | 09:21 |
| Romster | RyoS, don't like the idea of QT? | 09:21 |
| tilman | or no desktop environment at all | 09:22 |
| tilman | openbox ftw ffs | 09:22 |
| tilman | :D | 09:22 |
| sepen | xDD | 09:22 |
| Romster | heh | 09:22 |
| sepen | tilman, or antiright | 09:22 |
| tilman | antiright? | 09:22 |
| Romster | tilman, have you messed with new tk/tcl yet? | 09:22 |
| RyoS | Romster: i hate it | 09:22 |
| RyoS | openbox++ ;) | 09:22 |
| tilman | Romster: i've installed it | 09:22 |
| sepen | tilman, antiright is based on gtkshell app | 09:23 |
| Romster | tilman, me too but not used it yet. | 09:23 |
| tilman | i'll have a look | 09:23 |
| jkr | ZSH + 1280x1024-Framebuffer, sometimes Fluxbox :) | 09:24 |
| sepen | tilman, antiright <- gtkshell <- libantiright | 09:24 |
| mwansa | fluxbox ftw :) | 09:24 |
| RyoS | jkr: framebuffer wins :P | 09:25 |
| jkr | Yup :) | 09:25 |
| tilman | lol, those jpeg antiright screenshots are so fugly | 09:25 |
| sepen | xDD | 09:25 |
| sepen | tilman, I ported some antiright deps but not sure if I really do fine this job x| | 09:26 |
| sepen | jaeger, ping | 09:29 |
| jaeger | sepen: what's up? | 09:31 |
| sepen | jaeger, could you add libpanelapplet to gnome ports? | 09:31 |
| jaeger | what does it do? | 09:31 |
| sepen | jaeger, Im trying to port this http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin | 09:32 |
| sepen | but it needs libgnomeapplet as dependency | 09:32 |
| jaeger | would it not be better to put that into contrib, then? or the xfce repo? seems bloatish to have to download the gnome repo for that port | 09:33 |
| sepen | ohhh | 09:33 |
| sepen | jaeger, I think we had this discussion some days ago | 09:34 |
| jaeger | we might have, I don't recall | 09:34 |
| sepen | there're some xfce ports that depends on gnome repo | 09:34 |
| sepen | intltool, vte, ... they aren't so specific for xfce or gnome imo | 09:35 |
| sepen | also I think orbit2 its the same case | 09:36 |
| sepen | whats the correct action to perform, all these ports on contrib? opt? | 09:36 |
| jaeger | perhaps that'd be proper but I wouldn't move them without a lot of testing, want to know exactly which ports are truly gnome-independent | 09:37 |
| jaeger | the gnome ports used to be in contrib a long time ago and they were messy as hell... that's why they're in a separate repo now | 09:38 |
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| jaeger | is there a separate package for libpanelapplet? gnome-panel includes it | 09:42 |
| sepen | hmm | 09:44 |
| sepen | but no idea what is the correct package from gnome to list as dependency | 09:45 |
| sepen | 1 seg, Im doing a paste | 09:46 |
| jaeger | gnome-panel, most likely | 09:46 |
| sepen | installing it | 09:47 |
| sepen | .... opencdk url with problems | 09:51 |
| sepen | jaeger, fixed after changing http to ftp in his source line | 09:51 |
| sepen | tilman, colors rocks http://paste.lisp.org/display/52980 | 10:02 |
| tilman | yep | 10:03 |
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| Romster | sepen, are they your colours or off a guide? | 10:22 |
| sepen | http://cheat.errtheblog.com/s/git/ | 10:23 |
| thrice` | Romster: were you the one with kde4rc2 ports ? | 10:23 |
| Romster | thrice`, yes | 10:24 |
| thrice` | are they posted anywhere? | 10:24 |
| Romster | i haven't tested yet other than built. | 10:24 |
| Romster | will be on tuseday or so when shortcircuit is back up | 10:24 |
| Romster | thrice`, there still in testing stage. | 10:24 |
| Romster | but builds fine. | 10:24 |
| Romster | i haven' ran it yet. | 10:24 |
| thrice` | that's OK. I was going to do a fresh 2.4 install, but figured I could try breaking this one first :) | 10:24 |
| Romster | ah | 10:25 |
| Romster | if you like i'll tar it up for you and dcc you the packages? | 10:25 |
| thrice` | not if it's too much trouble. I'd love to test, though :) | 10:26 |
| Romster | not much trouble. | 10:26 |
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| thrice` | Romster: thanks :-) | 10:28 |
| Romster | has kde3 stuff inthere too just ignore that, might be misisng some ports. | 10:28 |
| Romster | and the man pages are in the wrong location. | 10:28 |
| Romster | but it all builds. if ya misisng a package let me know it most likely be in my private repo. | 10:29 |
| Romster | thrice`, i wanna know how it goes << | 10:29 |
| thrice` | of course :) give it a few days, and i'll let you know | 10:30 |
| Romster | i didn't port all the programs but it's not hard to add more. | 10:30 |
| Romster | ta :) | 10:30 |
| Romster | some of that took me some time to sort out | 10:30 |
| Romster | thrice`, you might wanna try also after if that all works is to edit qt3 so it installes to system and remove qt3 and install qt4 with qt3 support, been meaning to try that, actually i should mess with it in qemu. | 10:32 |
| thrice` | Romster: I get bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. | 10:32 |
| Romster | hmm | 10:32 |
| thrice` | does it untar for you? | 10:32 |
| Romster | i did tar cjvf | 10:32 |
| thrice` | huh. maybe just tar it, without bz2? | 10:32 |
| thrice` | wait, got it | 10:33 |
| thrice` | bad copy from my server to desktop | 10:33 |
| Romster | yeah it works | 10:34 |
| Romster | ah | 10:34 |
| Romster | tar xjf file.. | 10:34 |
| thrice` | yeah, worked when I re-copied :-) | 10:34 |
| thrice` | so, just prt-get depinst kdebase, and go from there? | 10:35 |
| Romster | yes | 10:35 |
| Romster | i think there is --install-scripts | 10:35 |
| thrice` | sounds good - i'll let you know. thanks alot | 10:35 |
| Romster | not sure if i made any have a check | 10:35 |
| thrice` | yep, I have that by default | 10:35 |
| Romster | k | 10:35 |
| thrice` | although I heard cmake reduces the compile time down quite a bit | 10:36 |
| Romster | if ya misisng something jsut let me know it'll be in my private repo. | 10:36 |
| Romster | yeah. | 10:36 |
| Romster | seems to help and is a lot neater. | 10:36 |
| Romster | i'm dreading cmake not always having a set location for man files. | 10:41 |
| Romster | leaves nearly everything upto the programmer. | 10:42 |
| Romster | so if they don't want other paths set they don't set them. | 10:42 |
| * Romster thinks i might have to use mv | 10:42 | |
| Partition | hm, have CRUX locale-gen? | 10:44 |
| Partition | must I recompile glibc for this? | 10:44 |
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| sepen | pffffff | 10:47 |
| sepen | Partition, did you read the handbook? | 10:48 |
| Partition | I`am reading it now. | 10:49 |
| Partition | but I don`t see that. | 10:49 |
| predatorfreak | Partition: See what? | 10:50 |
| Partition | how can I make locale-gen. | 10:51 |
| Romster | Partition, all the locales are there you need to set the locale in /etc/rc.conf | 10:51 |
| sepen | Partition, read about nls on crux | 10:52 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: rc doesn't set locale by default. | 10:52 |
| predatorfreak | You'd need to hack it to do that. | 10:52 |
| predatorfreak | Partition: By default, CRUX just makes all locales during glibc build. | 10:53 |
| predatorfreak | and installs them all. | 10:53 |
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| predatorfreak | Again, you'd need a modified glibc port to change that. | 10:53 |
| Romster | hmm might of been in /etc/profile then.. | 10:53 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Yes, /etc/profile is the proper place :) | 10:53 |
| Romster | all Partition needs todo is set LC_ALL=... | 10:53 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: <Partition> how can I make locale-gen. | 10:54 |
| Partition | predatorfreak: thanks :) | 10:54 |
| predatorfreak | He's asking how he can make locales on demand. | 10:54 |
| predatorfreak | I think. | 10:54 |
| Romster | as i said there all made | 10:54 |
| Romster | [03:51:58] <Romster> Partition, all the locales are there you need to set the locale in /etc/rc.conf | 10:54 |
| Romster | but it's ment to be set in profile. | 10:54 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Yes, I know, I'm saying you'd need a modified port like I have to generate them on-demand. | 10:54 |
| Romster | ah.. | 10:55 |
| Romster | why on-demand ? | 10:55 |
| Romster | never had a need for other languages so i don't know the NLS stuff. | 10:55 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I don't need a billion locales for countries I can't even find on a map! :P | 10:55 |
| Romster | neather do i hmm | 10:56 |
| predatorfreak | I just need my en_US/en_US.UTF8 | 10:56 |
| Romster | you got a modifyed port.. | 10:56 |
| dokpm0 | I'm now running CRUX 2.4!! This was my first CRUX upgrade and I only hit a couple of minor snags. Did I misfire when running rejmerge or does the upgrade overwrite /etc/rc without warning? I added a couple of lines to my /etc/rc script to scan for and activate LVM VGs. Also, there doesn't appear to be a 2.4 xfce repo. | 10:56 |
| sepen | dokpm0, 163.Red-83-54-50.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net | 10:56 |
| sepen | dokpm0, http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/xfce.git;a=shortlog;h=2.4 | 10:57 |
| Romster | dokpm0, you most likely pressed 'u' to update than you should of pressed 'm' to merge changes. | 10:57 |
| sepen | sorry the first line I paste you | 10:57 |
| predatorfreak | dokpm0: I mailed the list earlier, but one thing you might want to do is add SYSLOG=sysklogd to /etc/rc.conf. | 10:57 |
| predatorfreak | and I think the default is to not overwrite any differing files in /etc/ | 10:57 |
| predatorfreak | I could be wrong though. | 10:57 |
| sepen | dokpm0, 2.4 for xfce its now available | 10:57 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, correct | 10:57 |
| Romster | dokpm0, would have to of used update | 10:58 |
| Romster | in rejmerge, use merge instead unless you want to lose your changes, or keep to keep your exisitng file and not merge in new changes. | 10:58 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I love how when my patch got merged they noted that they'd need to update the handbook and add a note to the release notes about the new variable in /etc/rc.conf, but then they forgot when they finally released 2.4 :) | 10:58 |
| Romster | oh man... | 10:59 |
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| predatorfreak | Romster: That'd be a bad ideaer, the changes are minor, but you'd wind up starting sysklogd twice if you don't merge the new changes. | 10:59 |
| predatorfreak | It's only like 3 lines though. | 10:59 |
| predatorfreak | Deleting the old shit that started sysklogd in /etc/rc. | 11:00 |
| dokpm0 | Romster: Ok, I figured I just misfired. There were several files that I kept the existing copies on. I just misfired with /etc/rc. Oh well, it was easy enough to fix. I only had to add two lines to the new one. | 11:00 |
| Romster | dokpm0, i've contempated seting up hg in /etc/ | 11:01 |
| Romster | then could do hg revert . | 11:01 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Just use git you masochist! :P | 11:01 |
| Romster | if you mess up. | 11:01 |
| Romster | pfft | 11:01 |
| thrice` | lol | 11:01 |
| Romster | for that tiny job no.. | 11:01 |
| Romster | i use hg for my private repo | 11:02 |
| predatorfreak | I use by-hand editing for my repo and git for my shell script projects :) | 11:02 |
| sepen | svn here | 11:03 |
| Romster | used to use svn now it's all mercurial | 11:03 |
| Romster | only git i use is for contrib. | 11:03 |
| Romster | and the ocasional other clone of a project. | 11:04 |
| predatorfreak | Masochists! | 11:05 |
| thrice` | Romster: this is trying to build qt3 and qt4...is that right ? | 11:06 |
| thrice` | Viper_: pinentry also has a bad url :-) | 11:07 |
| predatorfreak | http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSN2129580420071222 <-- Aw, so Chuck Norris isn't God? | 11:08 |
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| thrice` | Romster: also, where is your private repo>? I don't see it on portdb | 11:09 |
| Romster | thrice`, it'll be up when shortcircuit is up | 11:09 |
| Romster | it arn't dead. just dormant. | 11:09 |
| sepen | jejej | 11:09 |
| Romster | should be tuesday but might be later in the week. | 11:09 |
| Romster | didn't think i had much useful stuff << | 11:10 |
| thrice` | oh, ok. this is reporting a couple missing packages (raptor and jasper | 11:10 |
| sepen | this articles was translated to spanish too | 11:10 |
| Romster | is that all i'll throw them in | 11:10 |
| thrice` | um, from kdebase, at least | 11:10 |
| Romster | k kdebase is the main program. | 11:11 |
| Romster | hang on a tic | 11:11 |
| thrice` | yep :) that's all I started with | 11:11 |
| thrice` | hm, no way to skip qt3? | 11:12 |
| Romster | if you edit qt4 and make it install i hadn't done that yet.. | 11:13 |
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| sepen | jaeger, http://paste.lisp.org/display/52983 | 11:19 |
| teliti | Hello! Just a question: My machine is an Athlon64 X2. Crux-2.4 is a i638 distribution. If I compile my kernel now, do I use "Athlon64" or "i386" as architecture? | 11:19 |
| sepen | teliti, the announcement says CRUX 2.4 ISO image for the i686 architecture. | 11:21 |
| jaeger | both will work. athlon64 is probably the best bet | 11:21 |
| sepen | uh | 11:22 |
| jaeger | sepen: ok, I'll take a look at the deps | 11:22 |
| sepen | jaeger, Im using prt-get depinst | 11:22 |
| teliti | thank you! | 11:22 |
| Romster | teliti, i686 or althon | 11:22 |
| teliti | but athlon64 could make problems? | 11:22 |
| jaeger | not likely | 11:22 |
| teliti | ahh thx! | 11:23 |
| Romster | using the later will be faster code on that cpu but not portable on other cpus | 11:23 |
| jaeger | setting that option will not suddenly give you a 64-bit system | 11:23 |
| Romster | i686 is a generic | 11:23 |
| jaeger | if you for some reason plan to use that very same kernel on a bunch of different machines, generic is good. if not, athlon64 will be fine | 11:24 |
| teliti | thank you | 11:24 |
| Romster | i go by jaeger's word on that. | 11:24 |
| Romster | that's exactly how i knew it worked. | 11:24 |
| Romster | same with the kernel when you turn on 'more genetic cpu optermisations' | 11:25 |
| Romster | so the kernel is portable instead of stuck to the cpu type selected. | 11:25 |
| Romster | thrice`, hmm i'd like to edit qt4 an nuke qt3, you up for editing that beast or you want me to do that? | 11:26 |
| thrice` | Romster: I've gotta run out in a few. can look tomorrow, though :) | 11:26 |
| Romster | and make sure you enable qt3 compatability kde4 requires that. | 11:27 |
| Romster | k | 11:27 |
| thrice` | Romster: I think jue has a good qt4 port too | 11:28 |
| Romster | ah.. | 11:28 |
| Romster | i made the qt4 to work along side qt3 | 11:29 |
| Romster | i don't see it in portsdb | 11:30 |
| thrice` | jaeger: i'm getting that hal-info can't build, saying I need hal 0.5.10 installed (which is) | 11:32 |
| Romster | strage that's being a pain for everyone? | 11:32 |
| Romster | but myself. | 11:33 |
| thrice` | er, scratch that. hal-info is trying to build WAY before hal | 11:33 |
| jaeger | thrice`: no idea on that, haven't run into that one yet... might rebuild hal | 11:33 |
| Romster | all i did was install hal-info then build new hal | 11:33 |
| thrice` | on a prt-get depinst gnome | 11:33 |
| Romster | didn'y have any problems. | 11:33 |
| Romster | didn't* | 11:33 |
| thrice` | er, why is hal-info a dep of hal, yet it won't build without it? o.O | 11:34 |
| Romster | thrice`, you have recent udev installed? | 11:35 |
| Romster | another unrelated issue. | 11:35 |
| Romster | but messes with hal/hal-info | 11:35 |
| thrice` | yes, on a full 2.4 system | 11:35 |
| Romster | k | 11:35 |
| Romster | uninstall hal and see if hal-info will build/ | 11:35 |
| thrice` | hal actually wasn't installed. it's trying to build hal-info before hal, which it can't do | 11:36 |
| Romster | oh | 11:36 |
| Romster | so maybe the dependencys should be the other way around and everyone should list hal-info instead of hal | 11:37 |
| Romster | ? | 11:37 |
| jaeger | I may end up reversing the deps because people can't seem to work around them, even though that's what upstream wants | 11:37 |
| Romster | jaeger, i never got any issues myself but seems odd. | 11:37 |
| thrice` | jaeger: can you build hal-info without hal installed? | 11:37 |
| Romster | i'll test in a chroot. | 11:37 |
| jaeger | no | 11:37 |
| jaeger | but like I've said a few times, upstream intends it this way. I think it's stupid but there you have it | 11:37 |
| Romster | seems to be a cicular dependency? | 11:38 |
| thrice` | aah, heh | 11:38 |
| jaeger | not circular, just backwards | 11:38 |
| Romster | lol | 11:38 |
| thrice` | ok, worked manually :) | 11:38 |
| Romster | forget how they do it and reverse it. | 11:38 |
| thrice` | sorry, was the first I had heard of it jaeger. figured it was upstream instead of you :) | 11:38 |
| Romster | upstream are doing something funky.. | 11:39 |
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| tilman | teliti: what cpu you use when compiling the kernel isn't related to what your glibc/rest of the system was compiled for | 11:45 |
| thrice` | jaeger: thanks, got it now. so, theoretically, you compile hal for hal-info, remove it, and rebuild it against hal-info ? | 11:46 |
| teliti | tilman: thank you, I already thought it would be like you said, but wasn't sure | 11:47 |
| jaeger | it doesn't really build against, it's just additional stuff... you don't need to rebuild | 11:47 |
| tilman | teliti: you can also use -march=athlon64 in CFLAGS, btw ;) | 11:47 |
| tilman | ech | 11:49 |
| tilman | predatorfreak: thanks | 11:49 |
| tilman | predatorfreak: stop disappearing for weeksm damnit ;) | 11:49 |
| tilman | actually | 11:50 |
| tilman | rejmerge will take care of it | 11:50 |
| teliti | tilman: but does that change anything because the libs are 32bitish? | 11:50 |
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| Lukasz | Hi evryone | 11:51 |
| tilman | teliti: it tells gcc to generate code that's tailored for the CPU. whether or not the libs are 32 bit or 64 bit doesn't matter | 11:51 |
| Partition | Hi Lukasz | 11:51 |
| Lukasz | How are you Partition | 11:52 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: I like disappearing! | 11:52 |
| teliti | teliman: thx | 11:52 |
| Lukasz | Once I get my disk im gonna install this distro :) | 11:52 |
| teliti | s/teliman/tilman | 11:52 |
| sepen | xD telitilman | 11:53 |
| Lukasz | Does ati work on this distro | 11:53 |
| sepen | yeah | 11:53 |
| Lukasz | thnx sepen :) | 11:53 |
| sepen | see contrib/ati port | 11:53 |
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| Lukasz | ok Im gonna get the disk soon | 11:53 |
| Lukasz | Im getting an awseme disk on Christmass Eve | 11:53 |
| Lukasz | :) | 11:54 |
| Lukasz | Btw im multiservering now | 11:54 |
| Lukasz | In Mirc Im connected to two servers | 11:54 |
| Lukasz | :) | 11:54 |
| Lukasz | Can I have a link to the tutorial? | 11:55 |
| tilman | what tutorial? | 11:55 |
| Lukasz | oops Documentation never mind found it :) | 11:55 |
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| Romster | Lukasz> In Mirc Im connected to two servers < lol try 4 networks in xchat but i used to be on about 10 | 11:56 |
| Lukasz | nice Romster | 11:56 |
| Lukasz | Where is the doc for ati cause I found for Crux | 11:56 |
| tilman | Lukasz: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/contrib.git;a=blob_plain;f=ati/README;h=9a01974f048a7a136046777a0dc9d5fc573cda2e | 11:58 |
| Lukasz | Thnx tilman | 11:59 |
| Lukasz | easy :) | 11:59 |
| Lukasz | I have worked with linux before :) | 11:59 |
| Lukasz | don't you need to go to init 3? | 12:00 |
| Lukasz | So it would be safer? | 12:00 |
| Romster | nope | 12:01 |
| tilman | Romster: woooo, anti aliased fonts in tk ftw! | 12:01 |
| Lukasz | ok thnx | 12:01 |
| tilman | gitk just got 88% nicer | 12:01 |
| Romster | Lukasz, read the documtation on bsd style init | 12:01 |
| Lukasz | ok | 12:01 |
| Romster | tilman, cool | 12:01 |
| Romster | what did you do? | 12:02 |
| tilman | updated to tcl/tk 8.5 | 12:02 |
| Lukasz | er url Romster? | 12:02 |
| tilman | Lukasz: it's the handbook | 12:02 |
| Lukasz | oops ok | 12:03 |
| Romster | is that all tilman ? | 12:03 |
| tilman | yes | 12:03 |
| Romster | thought there be some aditional steps. | 12:03 |
| * Romster loads gitk | 12:04 | |
| Lukasz | how do you do search with $ pkgadd -u bash | 12:06 |
| Lukasz | I know how to add but i still need to use command to search so it lists what i need | 12:06 |
| Romster | prt-get search | 12:07 |
| Lukasz | ok thnx | 12:07 |
| Lukasz | $ ports -u is for ports update | 12:07 |
| Lukasz | :) | 12:07 |
| Romster | Lukasz, really read the documtation.. | 12:07 |
| Romster | yes | 12:08 |
| Lukasz | ok | 12:08 |
| Romster | ports -u; prt-get cache; prt-get diff; prt-get sysup | 12:08 |
| Lukasz | Im reading it just i could find search otption | 12:08 |
| Romster | man prt-get | 12:08 |
| Lukasz | ok thnx I read | 12:08 |
| Romster | or prt-get help | 12:08 |
| Lukasz | http://jw.tks6.net/files/crux/prt-get_quickstart.html#id2481055 | 12:09 |
| Lukasz | Thats this I finally founded | 12:09 |
| Lukasz | Romster My laptop is amd athlon 64bit :) | 12:11 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: See reply. | 12:12 |
| tilman | \o/ | 12:13 |
| Lukasz | Im glad I got ati :) | 12:14 |
| tilman | me too | 12:14 |
| Lukasz | I think evrery distro uses ati :) | 12:15 |
| tilman | most distros allow you to install any driver you want | 12:15 |
| Romster | Lukasz, maybe you'd want to try the 64 bit crux then | 12:16 |
| Romster | but things like flash won't work. | 12:16 |
| Lukasz | hmm | 12:16 |
| Lukasz | I might try it | 12:16 |
| Romster | might on the multilib crux64 | 12:16 |
| Romster | links section on the site. | 12:16 |
| Lukasz | Linux is better the windows vista atm | 12:16 |
| Lukasz | then* | 12:16 |
| Lukasz | I got Windows Xp atm | 12:17 |
| Romster | than | 12:17 |
| Lukasz | oops thnx Romster | 12:17 |
| tilman | gnihihi | 12:17 |
| Lukasz | Is it possible to use ntfs disk on Crux? | 12:17 |
| bitwise | automated teller machine? i know they had xp point of sale machines...(POS) | 12:17 |
| Romster | :) | 12:17 |
| Lukasz | Like to read it | 12:17 |
| Romster | prt-get info ntfs-3g | 12:18 |
| tilman | Lukasz: reading ntfs works these days | 12:18 |
| tilman | *writing* to it is more complicated | 12:18 |
| bitwise | Lukasz: compile ntfs support in your kernel | 12:18 |
| Romster | and writing | 12:18 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Feel free to bitch at me any time if there's any other work that needs to be done, always happy to lend my spare time. | 12:18 |
| tilman | no idea how the state of things is there | 12:18 |
| Lukasz | wow | 12:18 |
| tilman | Lukasz: in general, there's not much that's crux _specific- | 12:18 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: ntfs-3g works perfectly in my experience. | 12:18 |
| tilman | if you can write to ntfs using redhat, you can with crux, too | 12:18 |
| tilman | predatorfreak: i'll copy over your blurb on syslog now | 12:19 |
| predatorfreak | Lukasz: Install ntfs-3g. | 12:19 |
| Lukasz | Im don't got the disk yet | 12:19 |
| predatorfreak | Mount the partition with ntfs-3g. | 12:19 |
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| Lukasz | Im getting for christmass | 12:19 |
| predatorfreak | and you've got full read/write. | 12:19 |
| predatorfreak | That's probably how Red Hat do it. | 12:19 |
| Romster | prt-get depinst ntfs-3g | 12:20 |
| predatorfreak | In-kernel NTFS support is pretty bad. | 12:20 |
| tilman | ntfs-3g is the fuse one? | 12:20 |
| Romster | most stuff will install fine like that. | 12:20 |
| Romster | yep | 12:20 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Yes. | 12:20 |
| Lukasz | ok | 12:20 |
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| tilman | ah! | 12:20 |
| Lukasz | Cause I got a big disk | 12:20 |
| Lukasz | But Im gonna uise a 2.5 exteran for crux | 12:20 |
| Romster | tilman, it's very good. | 12:20 |
| Lukasz | use* | 12:20 |
| Romster | nuke windows don't need it << | 12:21 |
| Romster | soudns to me you gonna dual boot vista and crux *quivers* | 12:21 |
| Lukasz | Is it possible to install grub on external instead of internal? | 12:21 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I think it's actually BETTER than Microsoft's NTFS driver in terms of performance :P | 12:21 |
| Romster | predatorfreak, lol.. | 12:21 |
| predatorfreak | I hit higher speeds transferring in Linux than I do in Vista. | 12:21 |
| tilman | Lukasz: sure, the question is whether your BIOS can boot from usb devices | 12:22 |
| Lukasz | yes it can | 12:22 |
| Romster | i saw it ages ago had a ntfs disk and went ooo i'll try this one. | 12:22 |
| Lukasz | I had linux before :) | 12:22 |
| Romster | all the other ones i've tryed sucked | 12:22 |
| tilman | predatorfreak: unposible! .oO(userspace vs kernel driver) | 12:22 |
| Romster | lol | 12:22 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: I've address that load of FUD before. | 12:22 |
| tilman | hehe | 12:22 |
| Lukasz | Well Im gonna jet ouata here for now | 12:22 |
| predatorfreak | addressed* | 12:22 |
| Romster | its' 'inpossible' << | 12:22 |
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| predatorfreak | roliveira_: IMPOSSIBLE. | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | err. | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | Romster* | 12:23 |
| Romster | or im? | 12:23 |
| Romster | hmmz | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | It's impossible. | 12:23 |
| Romster | back to spelling class | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | Yes, bad Romster! | 12:23 |
| Romster | i hate english << | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: So do I. | 12:23 |
| predatorfreak | Sadly, it's the only language I know | 12:24 |
| tilman | Romster: i was kidding. thought it was obvious | 12:24 |
| tilman | :> | 12:24 |
| Romster | and english is the only language i know too << | 12:24 |
| tilman | predatorfreak: we have spanish lessons in #crux-es ;) | 12:24 |
| Romster | tilman, yeah i got the kidding part jsut felt like corecting anyways but i botched that up | 12:24 |
| bitwise | tilman: perhaps he misunderestimated you | 12:24 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: Well, perhaps not ONLY, but the only one I know enough to speak. | 12:24 |
| tilman | bitwise: :D :D | 12:24 |
| predatorfreak | Romster: I've learnt enough Old Norse West to say " | 12:25 |
| predatorfreak | I'm going to kill you." | 12:25 |
| Romster | haha | 12:25 |
| tilman | i'm sure that will become handy one day | 12:25 |
| RyoS | tilman: i updated xorg today and now i cant get my normal xmodmap to work.. any suggestions what may have caused that? :S | 12:25 |
| predatorfreak | tilman: Already use it around family at Christmas parties and shit. | 12:25 |
| RyoS | i simply use the de.nodeadkeys | 12:25 |
| predatorfreak | They'd take offence if I told them I was going to kill them to their face :) | 12:26 |
| tilman | xmodmap or keyboard layout? | 12:26 |
| tilman | whut whut? | 12:26 |
| Romster | O_o | 12:26 |
| RyoS | uhm, keyboard layout | 12:26 |
| predatorfreak | But I can say that and say it's Old Norse West for "Merry Christmas" :P | 12:26 |
| tilman | RyoS: can you paste the relevant lines from xorg.conf somewhere? | 12:26 |
| RyoS | sure | 12:26 |
| bitwise | predatorfreak: i bet that comes in handy;) | 12:26 |
| predatorfreak | bitwise: Like you wouldn't believe... | 12:27 |
| predatorfreak | When you're as annoyed at parties as I am, you honestly just want to tell them all to go fuck off. | 12:27 |
| predatorfreak | But telling them that you're going to kill them is just as good :) | 12:27 |
| RyoS | tilman: http://rafb.net/p/Nkw3so63.html | 12:28 |
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| tilman | RyoS: did you install xkeyboard-config? | 12:30 |
| RyoS | xorg.log looks fine, no problems with the settings there.. | 12:30 |
| RyoS | nope | 12:30 |
| RyoS | oh it is installed | 12:30 |
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| tilman | RyoS: is this a fresh 2.4 installation? | 12:38 |
| RyoS | upgrade | 12:38 |
| RyoS | ok i got it running | 12:39 |
| RyoS | update -fr gnome-applets | 12:39 |
| RyoS | which is not the best solution but it does the job at least.. | 12:39 |
| tilman | huh? | 12:39 |
| RyoS | oh snap | 12:40 |
| RyoS | still got problems -.- up/down/left/right keys dont work.. wtf | 12:40 |
| tilman | /etc/inputrc/ | 12:41 |
| tilman | ? | 12:41 |
| RyoS | i dont have that one | 12:42 |
| tilman | i meant /etc/inputrc | 12:42 |
| RyoS | never looked at that one.. | 12:42 |
| RyoS | cant see anything in there | 12:43 |
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| RyoS | tilman: you dont have a backup of the package file for xorg-server 1.3? | 12:57 |
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| RyoS | i wonder why the hack it says i dont have german keyboard mapping installed | 13:08 |
| RyoS | tilman: i did a 'setxkbmap de -variant nodeadkeys' which brings me close to normal again but ctrl and alt keys yet dont work properly.. | 13:14 |
| tilman | does the log say anything? | 13:15 |
| RyoS | nope | 13:15 |
| RyoS | no errors at all.. | 13:15 |
| RyoS | on startup i see it just wants to take the us layout.. but i got german configured as you can see in the nopaste link.. | 13:15 |
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| RyoS | i just get xkbcomp errors on startup tahts it, but they dont appear in the log.. | 13:18 |
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| grml | has anyone reported any problems with the 2.4 iso? md5sum seemed to be correct but when i boot into the cd i get below installation methods a bunch of mambo jumbo chars | 14:14 |
| grml | pressing enter just generates more of them. endlessly | 14:15 |
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| grml | i had downloaded the torrent yesterday FYI | 14:20 |
| RyoS | grml: nope, no problems here | 14:21 |
| grml | damn i guess i shouldnt have fscked up my hard drive before trying the media then | 14:22 |
| grml | anyway thanks | 14:24 |
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| tilman | RyoS: well what does it say exactly? | 14:44 |
| RyoS | nothing, thats it | 14:44 |
| RyoS | but i am recompiling xorg now | 14:44 |
| RyoS | i bet i'll work then.. | 14:44 |
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| Lukasz | im back | 15:05 |
| Lukasz | so how do I install the mbr on usb disk? not internal? | 15:06 |
| Lukasz | The crux boot loader | 15:07 |
| Lukasz | When i will be installing I smply dot the partion / | 15:08 |
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| RyoS | Lukasz-away: stop that away-nick crap please | 15:29 |
| RyoS | tilman: have you compiled xorg server with gcc 4.2.2 already? | 15:30 |
| tilman | sure | 15:30 |
| RyoS | Oo | 15:31 |
| RyoS | i get seg faults randomly for like the last 6 times i tried it.. Oo | 15:31 |
| tilman | huh | 15:32 |
| RyoS | yeah.. just got that again | 15:33 |
| jjpk | Lukasz-away: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/away_msgs.html | 15:34 |
| jjpk | RyoS: have you overclocked your machine? | 15:36 |
| RyoS | nope | 15:37 |
| RyoS | i just get that after the upgrade :P | 15:37 |
| RyoS | 2.3 -> 2.4 | 15:37 |
| RyoS | i get that again and again lol | 15:40 |
| RyoS | everytime another part fails | 15:41 |
| jjpk | gah :| | 15:47 |
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| Lukasz | ok they are off | 15:55 |
| Lukasz | sry | 15:55 |
| thrice` | wow, 10 replies to the release announcement? :| | 15:55 |
| Lukasz | nice documentation | 15:56 |
| Lukasz | Er where is amd64 release of crux? | 15:56 |
| Lukasz | url? | 15:57 |
| thrice` | crux.nu says that it's a distro for 686 | 15:58 |
| Lukasz | ok | 15:58 |
| Lukasz | Thats good | 15:58 |
| Lukasz | Thnx thrice` | 15:58 |
| thrice` | I think there was a 64-bit port, but only 686 is done by crux devs (and, actually one of them contributes a 586 build) | 15:58 |
| Lukasz | ic | 15:59 |
| Lukasz | Crux is very small | 15:59 |
| predatorfreak | thrice`: Mostly me and others :P | 16:00 |
| RyoS | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah GOT IT WORKING | 16:00 |
| predatorfreak | In fact, only me and others. | 16:00 |
| RyoS | damn... that was a pain | 16:00 |
| jjpk | \o/ | 16:00 |
| Lukasz | is it possible to change the login time to 12 hr not 24 hr? | 16:00 |
| RyoS | if everything fails - format c:\?¿ | 16:00 |
| RyoS | :P | 16:00 |
| Lukasz | Cause when you change the clock time the login time should change to 12 hr as well I hope | 16:02 |
| Lukasz | RyoS? | 16:03 |
| RyoS | what? | 16:03 |
| Lukasz | how do I change the login time to 12 hr? | 16:03 |
| Lukasz | Cause in some linuxes it displays time on login RyoS | 16:04 |
| Lukasz | login widnows on top time | 16:04 |
| RyoS | why do you ask me? :S | 16:04 |
| RyoS | ask the channel | 16:04 |
| RyoS | i have no idea | 16:04 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:04 |
| RyoS | tilman: prost, got it again ;) | 16:05 |
| Lukasz | Anyone know about clock 12 hr on login time? | 16:05 |
| Lukasz | cause it is setup to 24 hr and id like to know how I can change it | 16:05 |
| Lukasz | sry for repeating myself | 16:06 |
| jaeger | what is "login time"? | 16:06 |
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| Lukasz | For example you see your login window and there can be sometimes time on top of window | 16:06 |
| Lukasz | Before username and pass | 16:07 |
| RyoS | snap... just installed xorg-xf86-input-evdev and got that problems AGAIN Oo | 16:07 |
| jaeger | which login window? | 16:07 |
| RyoS | wth | 16:07 |
| Lukasz | when you first startup crux | 16:07 |
| Lukasz | asks for password | 16:07 |
| Lukasz | last linux I had it had time on top | 16:07 |
| jjpk | You are sweating about minor details. | 16:07 |
| jaeger | no the console, you mean? | 16:07 |
| Lukasz | login username and password | 16:08 |
| jaeger | have a look at the /etc/issue file and 'man agetty' | 16:08 |
| jjpk | crux does not start X by default. | 16:08 |
| jaeger | you can add it there | 16:08 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:08 |
| Lukasz | If the login time not there thats good | 16:08 |
| Lukasz | I won't have to worry about it | 16:08 |
| jaeger | it's not by default | 16:08 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:09 |
| Lukasz | how do you add it there anyways and remove it? | 16:10 |
| Lukasz | curius? | 16:10 |
| jaeger | check the agetty man page and add it to /etc/issue if you want | 16:10 |
| Lukasz | ok I will | 16:10 |
| Lukasz | soon | 16:11 |
| Lukasz | is that for issues report jaeger? | 16:11 |
| jaeger | no | 16:12 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:12 |
| Lukasz | I know how to open the edit thing in console | 16:12 |
| Lukasz | $ prt-get edit /etc/issue | 16:13 |
| Lukasz | Is that correct jaeger? | 16:13 |
| thrice` | prt-get is not an editor | 16:13 |
| jaeger | try nano, it's simpler. prt-get isn't meant for editing | 16:14 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:14 |
| Lukasz | nano /etc/issue | 16:14 |
| RyoS | emacs or vi? lets do a christmas fight | 16:14 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Better yet, use vim! :P | 16:14 |
| predatorfreak | RyoS: Neither! Vim! :P | 16:14 |
| jaeger | I think vim is a bit too much in this case | 16:14 |
| RyoS | vim is my editor of choice too, but oh well | 16:14 |
| RyoS | thats a classic | 16:14 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: vim is NEVER too much. | 16:14 |
| Lukasz | $ prt-get vim install is that correct? | 16:15 |
| jaeger | I disagree | 16:15 |
| predatorfreak | You never know when you might need regex search-and-replace :) | 16:15 |
| jaeger | Lukasz: you might also want to look at the prt-get man page | 16:15 |
| Lukasz | ok | 16:15 |
| Lukasz | is that in doc? | 16:15 |
| predatorfreak | Lukasz: Don't bother with vim if you don't ever do any serious programming or something. | 16:15 |
| RyoS | Lukasz: can you read the manual maybe? | 16:15 |
| Lukasz | yeah | 16:16 |
| Lukasz | doc's | 16:16 |
| RyoS | would it be too much to say use ubuntu? XD | 16:16 |
| predatorfreak | It's overkill unless you're a zealot or a programmer/scripter :P | 16:16 |
| predatorfreak | RyoS: Bah! I say go for the total noob-extreme. | 16:16 |
| predatorfreak | Use Linspire. | 16:16 |
| RyoS | linspire, bleh | 16:16 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Also, once one adapts to vim, using anything else feels.... weird. | 16:17 |
| predatorfreak | I honestly can't use nano or even NOTEPAD without doing :wq anymore. | 16:17 |
| jaeger | I've used vi/vim for 11 years now, I know how it is | 16:17 |
| predatorfreak | jaeger: Hehe, it's a gift and a curse :P | 16:18 |
| tilman | RyoS: got what again? segfault? | 16:19 |
| RyoS | got that like a 100 times :P but its working now, except that the problems still are their | 16:20 |
| tilman | GOT WHAT | 16:20 |
| RyoS | segfaults Oo | 16:20 |
| tilman | aha | 16:21 |
| RyoS | i said that one or two times now :P but no idea why was that.. got it through now | 16:21 |
| RyoS | but still my keymap is forced to be us which i dont like.. | 16:21 |
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| Lukasz | There is /etc/login.defs as well | 16:22 |
| Lukasz | I will play around once I get it installed | 16:23 |
| Lukasz | Im getting my disk toomarow | 16:24 |
| Lukasz | I will be very tired since I got to work toomarow so I probobly won't be able to chat | 16:24 |
| Lukasz | I deliver newspapers | 16:24 |
| RyoS | Lukasz: no problem. | 16:24 |
| Lukasz | I already downloaded it :) | 16:25 |
| Lukasz | Well i see ya maybe Monday probobably Tuesday :) | 16:25 |
| RyoS | you pirated crux? :O | 16:25 |
| Lukasz | no | 16:26 |
| RyoS | if only bill knew.. | 16:26 |
| Lukasz | Downloaded from official site heh :p | 16:26 |
| Lukasz | http://crux.nu | 16:26 |
| RyoS | ok | 16:26 |
| tilman | RyoS: you can run 'strace X' and see whether it fails to find some file | 16:27 |
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| RyoS | tilman: i will do that | 16:27 |
| Lukasz | well good luck all | 16:27 |
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| RyoS | well...it just fails to move the log file | 16:32 |
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| RyoS | setxkbmap de -variant nodeadkeys läuft | 16:43 |
| tilman | how did you fix it? | 16:43 |
| RyoS | well, just realized its not yet fixed.. ctrl and alt still dont work.. | 16:44 |
| tilman | log is still empty? | 16:45 |
| RyoS | (EE) Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm | 16:46 |
| RyoS | (EE) Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm | 16:46 |
| RyoS | just got that in the log now | 16:46 |
| RyoS | its not from starting X though i guess. | 16:46 |
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| tilman | RyoS: is /usr/bin/Xorg setuid root? | 16:58 |
| RyoS | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 1675080 2007-12-23 22:57 /usr/bin/Xorg | 16:59 |
| RyoS | i guess ._. | 16:59 |
| tilman | yes | 17:01 |
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| RyoS | i will try again tomorrow when i get the time.. merry christmas everyone | 17:36 |
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| DeSm0N | Hellow haym help from spain aim not got speak englis | 19:04 |
| tilman | try #crux-es | 19:06 |
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| jefferos | assuming kernel + modules are configured correctly, for a wlan all i need to do is add atho to /etc/rc.d/net ? | 19:09 |
| DeSm0N | As Since the mistake solves "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block | 19:09 |
| tilman | jefferos: depends on the wlan chip :/ | 19:09 |
| tilman | jefferos: usually you'd load the module and the fire up dhcpcd for the interface | 19:10 |
| jefferos | ah its a broadcom card so the bcm43xx module. the "net" demon in /etc/rc.conf should also start dhcpcd as a dependency right ? | 19:11 |
| tilman | jefferos: no, the choice of wether you need dhcp or not is up to you | 19:11 |
| tilman | hang on | 19:11 |
| jefferos | yea i will use dhcp | 19:12 |
| DeSm0N | healp form me please hay am four ours on error "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block | 19:12 |
| tilman | http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook2-4#ntoc54 | 19:12 |
| jefferos | tilman: thanks :D | 19:15 |
| roliveira | DeSm0N, ajuda em portugues? | 19:16 |
| DeSm0N | roliveira potuges domino un pouco | 19:17 |
| roliveira | quel es el problema? | 19:17 |
| DeSm0N | "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block | 19:18 |
| roliveira | si pero has instalado CRUX por la primeira vez? | 19:18 |
| tilman | is that with the crux 2.4 CD, or with an existing crux installation? | 19:19 |
| DeSm0N | si yo soy novato pero hay una persona que me ayudo me gusta aprender instale pero me quede en ese punto qe me da el error al iniciar | 19:19 |
| roliveira | siguiste los pasos de instalacion del handbook? penso que poderá ser un problema de configuracion del kernel no? | 19:21 |
| DeSm0N | si lei que podria ser de lilo pero me suena a kernel | 19:21 |
| roliveira | has instalado, compilado el kernel correctamente? no has esquicido ningun passo? (< esto es portunol...) | 19:25 |
| DeSm0N | el portunol lo entiendo mas o menos soy practicante de bjj :D si segui todos los paso alomejor me equivoque al configurar lilo o rc o fstab ? | 19:26 |
| DeSm0N | instale debian sin problemas | 19:26 |
| roliveira | puedes poner lilo.conf e fstab en un pastebin? | 19:27 |
| DeSm0N | si un segundo | 19:28 |
| DeSm0N | http://paste.lisp.org/display/52989 | 19:29 |
| DeSm0N | http://paste.lisp.org/display/52990 | 19:29 |
| DeSm0N | http://paste.lisp.org/display/52992 | 19:29 |
| DeSm0N | alli tienes lilo fstab i rc | 19:29 |
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| roliveira | me parecen bien...lilo hay instalado sin problemas? | 19:33 |
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| DeSm0N | si pero haber si logro copiar tood el error | 19:34 |
| roliveira | como configuraste el kernel? muchas alterationes en la configuration inicial? | 19:35 |
| jkr | GCC doesn't build :( | 19:35 |
| DeSm0N | No casi nada lo qe ves es lo configurado haber me sali esto tambien VFS: Cannot open root device "821" or unkom block please a ppen a correct root= kernel panic not syncing | 19:36 |
| jkr | "bad reloc symbol index" | 19:36 |
| DeSm0N | jkr You say it to me ami | 19:37 |
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| roliveira | esse erro es muy estranho...puedes dar un boot novamente con el cd de CRUX e hacer un chroot en la partition, tentando nstalar lilo novamente? | 19:39 |
| DeSm0N | Si pero necesitaria que me guiases | 19:41 |
| roliveira | fazes el boot normal, como se fuera una instalacion..entao hazes "mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt" e setup-chroot | 19:42 |
| roliveira | depois de teneres una consola bash simplesmente "lilo" | 19:43 |
| DeSm0N | warnin: /dev/sdc is no on the first disk | 19:45 |
| DeSm0N | Added CRUX * | 19:45 |
| DeSm0N | One warning was issued | 19:45 |
| roliveira | quantos discos tens? | 19:46 |
| roliveira | me parece que lilo no esta sendo instalado en el mbr del primero disco no? | 19:47 |
| DeSm0N | e ntfs 500 giga 2x160 gigas todos sata | 19:47 |
| DeSm0N | puede ser tendria qe estar instalado en /dev/sdc diria yo | 19:47 |
| roliveira | el problema me parece la orden dos discos.../dev/sdc es el primeiro en el boot order? | 19:48 |
| DeSm0N | me parece qe no como lo miro | 19:49 |
| roliveira | el la bios | 19:49 |
| roliveira | en | 19:51 |
| DeSm0N | pero si no tubiera en el primer hdd donde tengo crux puesto no me podria dar el error creo yo | 19:51 |
| roliveira | "warning: /dev/sdc is no ont the first disk" estas instalando lilo en el disco sdc, pero este parece que no es lo primeiro disco en lo qual se da el boot... | 19:53 |
| roliveira | no deberias instalar lilo en /dev/sda? | 19:54 |
| DeSm0N | SDA ES NTFS | 19:55 |
| roliveira | claro pero lo instalarias (lilo) en lo mbr del disco certo? la particion ntfs seria intocada ... | 19:56 |
| DeSm0N | Mbr a qe referencia al espacio qe guarda el disco al particionar de nuevo ? | 19:57 |
| roliveira | no entendi la question | 19:58 |
| DeSm0N | qe me recomiendas para solucionarlo | 19:58 |
| roliveira | tienes que entender como esta la configuracion de los discos..despoes instalas lilo en el master boot record del primeiro disco que seria /dev/sda | 20:00 |
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| DeSm0N | perdona i como puedo instalar de nuevo lilo | 20:01 |
| roliveira | podes intentar editar lilo.conf e alterar /dev/sdc para /dev/sda pero debes fazer-lo conocendo los riscos | 20:02 |
| roliveira | penso que no haveran problemas pero... | 20:02 |
| roliveira | no puedo garantir | 20:02 |
| DeSm0N | Meu podrias decir los pasos lo pruebo i si se soluciona reinstalo de nuevo con todo bien | 20:03 |
| roliveira | nano /etc/lilo.conf? e despoes simplesmente "lilo" | 20:04 |
| DeSm0N | entrar en el menu de configuracion de lilo no ? | 20:04 |
| roliveira | si editar el ficheiro de configuracion de lilo (nano /etc/lilo.conf) | 20:05 |
| DeSm0N | I cambiar sdc por sda | 20:06 |
| roliveira | boot=/dev/sda | 20:07 |
| roliveira | e depois veras se el warning se mantiene | 20:08 |
| DeSm0N | voçe tener msn | 20:15 |
| roliveira | no utilizo msn, pero costumo estar por aqui... | 20:16 |
| DeSm0N | toy pensando en fer una instalaçao neta pero nose donde esta el fallo | 20:17 |
| roliveira | podes experimentar en maquinas virtuales antes... | 20:18 |
| DeSm0N | el comando prompt para qe servir en lilo | 20:20 |
| roliveira | indica que lilo vai automaticamente para o prompt (de outra forma necessita de un enter por exemplo) | 20:22 |
| roliveira | porque no cambias la posicion de los discos | 20:22 |
| DeSm0N | marcho a descansar zzzzzz muchisimas gracias por ayudarme estamos en contacto | 20:24 |
| roliveira | ok, buena sorte e no desistas...CRUX vale a pena... | 20:24 |
| DeSm0N | yo kerer ser a ex usuario de la secta windows | 20:26 |
| roliveira | ok :D | 20:27 |
| DeSm0N | pero para mi razon crux tendria qe tener un entorno visual de instalacion | 20:30 |
| roliveira | yo creo que es facil instalar crux..pero es diferente de las otras distros | 20:33 |
| DeSm0N | ati te molestaria ayudarme a instalar de 0 crux ? mañana | 20:34 |
| roliveira | manana sera dificil: navidade... | 20:36 |
| DeSm0N | qe ora es en brasil | 20:36 |
| DeSm0N | aqui en españa las 3:30 am | 20:37 |
| roliveira | en portugal es menos 1 hora :D | 20:37 |
| roliveira | estarei por aqui entre las 11h e las 1 | 20:38 |
| roliveira | 13 | 20:38 |
| roliveira | 12-14 para ti | 20:38 |
| DeSm0N | bueno pero mañana por la mañana o al medio dia ok para esa ora esta por aqi por cierto cres qe seria mejor instalar crux namas dejado conectado el disco duro a usar ? | 20:38 |
| roliveira | que tienes instalado en sda? windows? | 20:40 |
| DeSm0N | partcion con descarga de emule pero qe algun resto de windoes | 20:42 |
| roliveira | penso que poderias desligar los otros dos discos e deixar somente lo que tiene crux instalado...e verificar se continuas con el kernel panic | 20:43 |
| roliveira | asi no arriscarias danificar los dados que tienes | 20:43 |
| DeSm0N | mañana lo pruebo ahora a cargar baterias nos bemos i gracias | 20:44 |
| roliveira | e confirmar se el erro es de lilo o de alguna configuracion errada del kernel | 20:44 |
| roliveira | vou a descansar tambien... | 20:44 |
| roliveira | até amanha! (< em portugues de Portugal :P) | 20:45 |
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| acrux|ppc | hi | 23:25 |
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