IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2008-03-22

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predatorfreaktilman: ping06:21
predatorfreaktilman: Seems my patch reduction on GRUB changed a few things with respect to the handbook, namely, the GRUB config file (technically grub.conf, but I'll add a symlink for menu.lst) and the location of the stage files, which is now /usr/lib06:23
predatorfreakI'm going to update the README now, but the handbook is something that I can't as I don't have the power to do so.06:24
tilmanask simone for a wiki account then06:25
cruxbot[opt.git]: grub: Revert the location of the stage files to /usr/share, update README on the config file.06:42
RyoSpredatorfreak: thanks to your port firefox doesnt show up in revdep anymore ;)06:57
predatorfreakRyoS: xulrunner probably does :P06:58
RyoSi think the same06:58
RyoSwell however, runs fine besides the usual bugs the beta has06:58
predatorfreakRyoS: oh and the simple fix for that problem is to just add /usr/lib/{firefox,xulrunner} to your
predatorfreakBut honestly, it doesn't affect whether or not the program in question works, so, no big deal06:59
RyoShehe yeah well :P i am over it anyway :P07:02
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ahyuwhiyehey Romster08:49
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Romstertilman, xorg-libxaw footprint needs updating.09:47
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tilmanRomster: =======> Building '/home/tilman/.tmp/pkgmk/xorg-libxaw#1.0.4-2.pkg.tar.gz' succeeded.09:51
Romsterhmmz i'll try again..09:52
Romsteri did a ports -u then a pkgmk of that port.09:53
tilmancheck deps09:53
tilmanuninstall xprint crap09:53
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Romstereh i ocasionaly use tightvnc still and that depends on it and tightvnc hasn't been updated, seeing new files ok but the missing file is the thing..09:54
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Romsterah ok missing file is todo with them other ports...09:59
Romsterchroot build went fine.10:00
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Romsternote to self check in chroot before reporting.10:00
Romsterjust wish tightvnc would update already.10:01
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: gcc-fortran: 4.2.2 -> 4.2.310:10
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: gcj: remove distcc and cache from footprint10:14
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RyoStrunschuh_: fix your connection :S12:43
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mike_k@seen predatorfreak16:18
clbmike_k: predatorfreak was last seen in #crux 9 hours, 18 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <predatorfreak> But honestly, it doesn't affect whether or not the program in question works, so, no big deal16:18
cruxbot[contrib.git]: wmint: updated to 0.9, added trivial patch to save laptop battery16:20
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: wmint: fixed minor issue (even trivial changes should not be made that fast)16:31
cruxbot[contrib.git]: wmwifi: new port16:40
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Romstermike_k, Dependencies: x11, should be fixed to what spefic libs out of xorg16:44
Romsterand genearly start with xorg-libx1116:45
mike_kRomster: in two last commits I've actually done that. I'll try to strip other ports during next updates.16:46
mike_kanyone usung grub?16:47
Romsterah k i hadn't done a ports -u yet.16:48
mike_kseems predatorfreak dropped the menu.lst-->grub.conf patch. a symbolic link should fix it for now.16:49
Romsteri use my safe-build to find what dependencys i need and finddeps is handy too.16:49
Romsterbeen on lilo since i hoped on to crux.16:49
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mike_kpredatorfreak: have you intentionally dropped menu.lst-->grub.conf patch(es)?16:52
mike_kthat will hurt users without  keyboard acces to their remote boxes =)16:53
predatorfreakmike_k: Yes.16:53
RyoSfor real? jesus i use grub.conf Oo16:54
predatorfreakUpstream is menu.lst, something as pointless as changing the config is not a big deal.16:54
RyoSand i already rebootet to not crux and not unix at all16:54
RyoSdamn you! :P16:54
predatorfreakI documented it in the README.16:54
predatorfreakRyoS: It will only take affect after updating CRUX and doing setup (hd0) or equivalent again.16:54
predatorfreakTo reinstall grub.16:55
RyoSoh, great then :p16:55
predatorfreakmike_k: It's not my fault if they don't read the README when they see it's changed :D16:55
predatorfreakThey're free to send an e-mail at me over it, but I'll tell them that, essentially.16:55
tilmani suggest you mail  about those changes16:56
predatorfreakTBH, I don't think we should of used a non-standard config file in the first place.16:56
tilmanthey seem big and potentially dangerous enough to warrant that :D16:56
RyoSwell but actually, grub is in opt16:56
RyoSits not suggested to be used in the handbook16:56
predatorfreaktilman: It will only affect them if they resetup GRUB after it's updated.16:57
RyoSthinking about it, everybody using the port should be (shame on me) able to read the readme properly :p16:57
tilmani know that16:57
predatorfreakBut, I suppose I can mail about it.16:57
mike_kit was changed once for grub.conf. and now backwards.16:58
predatorfreakEven though I don't believe it really warrants it, seeing as I updated the README stating that the config file is menu.lst :D16:58
predatorfreakmike_k: I don't believe we should have applied the billions of Fedora patches that were on GRUB.16:58
mike_kand README still mentions /usr/share16:58
predatorfreakSome of them even caused problems for some folks I know, making GRUB impossible to update.16:58
predatorfreakmike_k: I fixed the locations.16:59
predatorfreakSee grub 0.97-516:59
predatorfreak/usr/share fits the types of files the stage* files are.16:59
tilman "/usr/share/grub/i386-pc" sounds like an oxymoron actually17:00
mike_kok, I see that now17:00
tilmansince platform specific files should go into /lib/ iirc17:00
tilmanerr, lib/17:00
mike_klet's stick to some scheme for a while  P17:01
predatorfreaktilman: They're not library files though.17:02
predatorfreakThey're more data files than anything.17:02
mike_kpredatorfreak: please, don't forget to update the handbook for the next release.17:03
predatorfreakmike_k: I'm updating it now.17:03
predatorfreakSimone sent me my username and password for the wiki.17:03
predatorfreakI should really just update the handbook to tell people to run grub-install as their primary method of installation.17:05
mike_kI should admit, it was fun to explain a girlfriend how to manually boot kernel from the grub console =)17:06
Romsterheh in lilo, <tab> <some kernel tag> <enter>17:13
Romsterno idea how all of grub works.17:14
predatorfreakRomster: Stop lurving all your LILO!17:14
predatorfreakThat's so 1998.17:14
Romsterit works and it's KISS17:15
jesse_LILO ftw.17:15
Romsterwhat more would you want from a boot loader?17:15
jesse_pwetty graphics!17:15
predatorfreakRomster: 1998 1998 1998!17:15
predatorfreakGo back to your Linux 2.2 and shitty threading!17:16
RyoSa question for our bootmanager fashists :P17:16
RyoSi have crux on my sata2 hdd17:16
RyoSand windooze xp on my first ide17:16
RyoSneither lilo nor grub will boot win17:16
RyoSwhats the trick? map doesnt do, i tried everything :P everything i know at least..17:17
jesse_other=/dev/hda1 and label= under it have worked fine.17:18
* predatorfreak updates README with the fancy grub-install method.17:19
RomsterhdX doesn't everyone one use sdX thesedays...17:19
RyoSon lilo? havent done the job when i updated to sata17:19
RyoSRomster: i wont change so fast, i am low o nmoney17:19
Romsterso am i but i'm on sata even.17:20
RyoSme too, but not with windows17:20
predatorfreakRomster: You mean libata drivers?17:21
RyoSpredatorfreak: dont think so ;)17:21
Romsterpredatorfreak, yes libata17:21
predatorfreakIt'd wind up being sdb1 or someshit.17:21
predatorfreakBasically everything should be now.17:21
RyoSRomster: oh, havent changed17:21
Romstersda, sdb17:21
predatorfreakThe old IDE drivers aren't actively developed.17:22
Romsteri don't use the old IDE anymore anyways.17:22
cruxbot[opt.git]: grub: Update README file with the grub-install method, in addition to the purely manual method.17:22
predatorfreakNeither do I.17:22
predatorfreakand now that that stuff is cleared up, plus a mail to crux@lists.crux.nu17:22
RyoSnot yet, never bothered to look up how migrate right :P17:22
predatorfreakTime to rip Lightin' Hopkins and John Lee Hooker17:22
predatorfreakmmm bluez17:23
RyoShowever, that wont change windows to boot :P17:23
predatorfreakSure it won't.17:23
predatorfreakBut I'm just saying, the old IDE drivers aren't developed anymore.17:24
RyoSi am actually pretty sick of changing first boot device in the bios :P17:24
RomsterJohn Lee Hooker....17:24
RyoSwell yeah, i will change it tomorrow17:24
RomsterRyoS, you doing the ide0/scsi change everytime <<17:25
predatorfreakRomster: Yes, John Lee Hooker.17:25
RyoSRomster: mh?17:25
RyoSwhat do you mean?17:25
predatorfreakI can't like Detroit blues or something?17:25
Romsteronly bules i lie is rocken blues like acdc zztop etc.17:25
Romsterbios to boot from the on board ide or the add on pci sata card.17:26
RyoSmh... would that change my problem? dont think so actually ;)17:26
predatorfreakRomster: Gotta go to the source to understand why they lurve it so much.17:26
predatorfreakPlus, I love me some blues.17:29
predatorfreakPlus call me crazy, but John Lee Hooker looked good when he was younger.17:29
RyoScrazy *_*17:30
aonblues is good, though17:31
RyoSi like it, too17:31
predatorfreakRyoS: Screw you, I like being crazy.17:31
RyoSme too :P17:32
predatorfreakSANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!17:32
Romsterthere is no such thing as normal. :P17:32
predatorfreakRomster: I said sanity!17:33
predatorfreakNot normalcy.17:33
predatorfreakBut yes, normalcy is for the WEAK too.17:33
RyoSoh, i got some beer intus, dont care for what i say. but still i cant boot win xp :P17:34
RyoSpredatorfreak: have you tried grub2?17:34
predatorfreakGoogle harder!17:34
predatorfreakand no.17:34
predatorfreakIt's not finished yet.17:35
predatorfreakand I refuse to install shit onto my MBR that's half-finished.17:35
RomsterRyoS, grub and are you reting to do a linux -> linux or a windows to -> linux17:35
RyoSgoogle harder? if youd knew how much i googled already ^^17:35
RyoSRomster: what..?17:35
RyoSRomster: grub is on my sata harddisk17:36
RyoSunable to boot from ide, havent tried a unix from ide though, not yet17:36
RomsterRyoS, why do you even have windows.17:36
RyoSgaming ;)17:37
predatorfreakRomster: I have winders for games too XD17:37
predatorfreakI'm actually an avid Age Of Empires 3 player.17:37
RyoSi am much more into counter strike17:37
Romsterah k17:38
predatorfreakMy clan is in the top 50 for AOE3 The Asian Dynasties and we play pretty regularly.17:38
RyoSsicher :p17:39
* predatorfreak checks how his clan is doing.17:39
RyoSwrong window..17:39
predatorfreakRyoS: Don't get me going on games :P17:40
RyoSpredatorfreak: i havent tried aoe317:40
predatorfreakIt's an RTS.17:40
RyoSi played the last anno, this one is pretty much fun17:40
predatorfreakRyoS: Only thing that sucks about it is team mates.17:41
predatorfreakIf you're not in a decent clan or you don't know any decent players, you can get horribly fucked no matter how good you are.17:41
RyoSwell choose your mates wisely17:42
RyoSthats actually for every game so, doubles/triples the fun anyway17:42
predatorfreakI've played games where I was beating the enemy into a pulp, but my team mate couldn't hold their ground.17:42
predatorfreakand I lost because it became 2v1 or 3v2 or someshit.17:42
predatorfreakand admittedly, Ensemble don't always balance certain things quite right :)17:44
RomsterRyoS, you could just edit C:\boot.ini. and add in the lilo boot kernel.17:45
RyoSRomster: i actually dont want to do that.. why should i use windows boot manager? :/17:45
Romsterbecause your already using windows and it's easy todo.17:46
predatorfreak"Women are like wet bars of soap. Hold on to em too hard and they pop outta your hands."17:46
predatorfreakBest statement by a blues artist EVER.17:46
RyoSpredatorfreak: hehe good one17:46
predatorfreak(It's by John Lee Hooker :D)17:46
RyoSanyway, i will be gone for now, cya later/tomorrow17:47
Romsterbye RyoS17:49
Romsterhmm what other ports can i rape today.17:49
predatorfreakPort rapist!17:50
predatorfreakRomster: Keep your rapist hands off my ports!17:50
predatorfreakThey're MINE to rape! :317:51
Romsterwell i'm also messing with wxPython too.17:51
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Romstercoffee time.18:04
mike_kpowertop makes me paranoid18:08
Romsterwhats chewing your cpu, zomg kernel kill kill kill18:12
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ahyuwhiyehi if I do install crux do I have to recompile the whole base system¿18:14
ahyuwhiyethank you18:14
predatorfreakIt's up to you to decide if you want to do that.18:14
ahyuwhiyeso gcc and co are up to date?18:15
predatorfreakOn the CD? No.18:15
predatorfreakWe moved to gcc 4.2.318:15
predatorfreakWe should probably put out periodic CD refreshes or something.18:15
ahyuwhiyewould be appreciated18:15
Romsterand it's called core not base now.18:16
ahyuwhiye^^ ok18:17
Romsterno need to rebuild core but i did to take advantage of any gcc optomisations.18:17
ahyuwhiyebtw hi  romster18:17
predatorfreakjaeger over there rolls new CRUX ISOs every now and then18:17
predatorfreakBut he's been busier than usual lately, so he hasn't been rolling them as frequently as he used too.18:18
ahyuwhiyemay i will take the night for recompiling18:18
predatorfreakSadly, he left us too go off and do stuff :(18:18
jaegerthe last one was 12.3, I'll probably make another one this coming week since a lot has changed18:18
predatorfreakjaeger: Stop learning things and be a dropout, but work on CRUX!18:18
Romsterfun redoing the tool chain on my k6-218:19
predatorfreakRomster: :D Five years later.18:19
predatorfreak"Oh, it's done."18:19
Romsterlol actally a night.18:19
Romsteri didn't time it but it's like 6 hours or something.18:20
predatorfreakPoor thing.18:20
Romsterdistcc for anything that can be sent out.18:20
predatorfreakRomster: Fun fact though, gcc basically ignores CFLAGS.18:20
predatorfreak(or well, should)18:20
predatorfreakSo build it on one box.18:20
predatorfreakCopy package over.18:21
predatorfreakand install it.18:21
Romsteryeah and i found something nice on glibc18:21
Romsteryeah but thats a i586 so i couldn't use my i686 build.18:21
predatorfreakRomster: -march=generic?18:21
ahyuwhiyeare 4 GB for / without outsourcing~ ^^ enough¿18:21
Romsteri had some crazy missing symbols untill i set -march=i58618:21
Romsteras i only had -mtune=66-218:22
predatorfreakHoly shit, that was a perfect MPD change.18:22
predatorfreakLightnin Hopkins - Till The Gin Gets Here to Robert Johnson - Preachin' Blues.18:22
predatorfreakI honestly went ".... Wait when did Hopkins become Johnson?"18:23
Romstersome changes are funny..18:23
predatorfreakRomster: Like Amon Amarth to George Michael?18:23
Romsterlike hearing a into off one album then it jumps to another artist.18:23
predatorfreak(Yes, MPD has done that on me)18:24
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* Romster would like to fix that troll good and proper with a heap of rope and a car <<18:24
predatorfreakRomster: Honestly, I went "WTF? I'M GETTING PUMPED UP ON AMON AND SUDDENLY GEORGE MICHAEL?"18:24
predatorfreak"MPD, YOU FUCKING BUZZ KILLER."18:25
RomsterGeorge Michael would kill any music.18:25
predatorfreakNah... in the right conditions I like him.18:25
Romsterthen again billy ray cirus would be worse.18:25
predatorfreakRomster: But, I still consider him an unattractive queer singing freak.18:26
predatorfreakJust, occasionally, he sings well.18:26
Romsterhe is that but some of his songs are ok from time to time.18:26
Romsterit's like hearing the back street boys, only in small amounts is it tolerateable.18:27
predatorfreakRomster: I'll find that sekrit George Michael collection on your system, I sear it! :P18:27
jesse_You just gotta have faith. :D18:27
Romsterya know whats sad18:28
Romsteri have the chipmonkes LP on record and it has that song.18:28
Romsteronly it sounds like it's on helium.18:29
predatorfreakRomster: I own only two LPs :(18:29
Romsteri got a few 20 i guess approx.18:29
predatorfreakIron Maiden - Live After Death and Saxon - Wheels Of Steel18:29
Romsteri've so wanted to get a record cuter.18:30
Romsterand record my own.18:30
Romsterbut there so expensive.18:30
Romster$ find /home/romster/media/audio/mp3/ -iname '*george*michael*'18:31
Romster/home/romster/media/audio/mp3/Queen/Greatest Hits III/Queen Greatest Hits III/Queen Greatest Hits III-Queen Greatest Hits III-05-93 Somebody To Love (with George Michael).mp318:31
Romsterhah only one song.18:32
predatorfreakRomster: That's not including your secret directory!18:32
predatorfreak/home/romster/.porn/.srslyporn/.nosrslyporn/GEORGE\ MICHAEL18:32
Romsterpredatorfreak, you got any prince too <<18:33
Romsterthank goodness.18:34
predatorfreakDid at one point, never really liked him much though18:34
Romstercouldn't stand him18:34
Romsteryeah i couldn't get into his style it's so diferent.18:34
predatorfreakOnly other embarrassing thing in my collection is uhh.18:34
predatorfreakDoes early Devo count as embarrassing?18:35
predatorfreak'cuz that's about it..18:35
predatorfreakWell, there's Amy Winehouse too.18:35
predatorfreakBut she has a few good tracks18:35
predatorfreakRomster: You still got that KDE4 repo?18:37
predatorfreakor was that someone else?18:37
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Romsteryeah i haven't updated it though18:40
Romsterseen kde4 is now released.18:40
Romsterdevo whip it hehe18:40
predatorfreakNah, I like their first album more XD18:41
predatorfreakJocko Homo, Mongoloid, etc.18:41
Romsterheh that earlier stuff18:42
Romsternow does firefox honor the gtkrc file for colours.18:43
predatorfreakYes, before they went totally pop18:43
predatorfreakMongoloid is totally sexy.18:43
Romsterwhy do i get thughts of amy grant, adam and the ants...18:43
RomsterREO speedwagon18:44
predatorfreakLightnin' Hopkins - 75 Highway - The Tradition Masters18:50
predatorfreakThis is basically just a really, really good modification of Cross Road Blues by Johnson.18:50
predatorfreakNot that I'm complaining when it's done so well.18:50
thrice`hm, when I try to use mencoder to make a dvd out of an avi, I get a very, very small resulting movie :-|18:52
predatorfreakthrice`: As-in resolution or filesize or what?18:53
Romsterdid you define ntsc/pal format?18:53
predatorfreakthrice`: Any filters in play either?18:54
thrice`I didn't know you could do cat file1.avi file2.avi > file_complete.avi, though18:54
thrice`that's neat :)18:54
thrice`I basically have an avi file I want to play on my dvd player, and looking for the easiest way to do it18:55
predatorfreakNo personal experience with that XD18:58
Romstermovie-to-dvd -M -m pal "movie.avi"18:58
Romstersimple xml config save as dvdauthor.xml18:58
Romsterand i'll pastebin that for ya18:58
thrice`heh, much easier than my mencoder command19:01
thrice`that's what I was following19:01
Romsterah i've been over the net reading for hours on that stuff in the past too.19:02
Romstermy method maybe not ideal  but i've sued it and it works.19:03
Romstergawd i allways type sued19:03
predatorfreakYeah, you like suing people.19:03
thrice`heh; i'll give that a try shortly - thanks Romster19:04
Romsterlet me know on any improvments.19:05
Romsterit works for me(tm)19:05
cruxbot[contrib.git]: libmatroska: Fix URL and update md5sum.19:06
cruxbot[contrib.git]: libebml: Update to 0.7.8, change URL.19:06
Romsteri use tcextract mplex and a few other tools too for various things.19:06
thrice`Romster: movie-to-dvd comes from dvdauthor?19:10
Romsterif you do a prt-get fsearch <filename>19:12
thrice`sorry, this is a slackware box, not on crux19:13
thrice`I googled, though19:13
Romsteralthough i use prt-cache as it's faster.19:13
Romsteri automaticly assued your on crux sorry..19:13
Romsterslackware should have a port too19:14
thrice`does it only need mplayer?19:15
RomsterDepends on: dvdauthor multimux qt3 sox transcode19:15
Romsteralthough you might get away with less.19:15
Romsterdunno why i have qt3 there..19:16
Romsteri should test that port in my safe-build and see if i can cut that out.19:16
Romsterdefently needs mplayer.19:18
Romstermight get away without sox unlesss you need audio format conversion too.19:19
* Romster tests what dependencys i can prune19:19
Romsterhmm i can check with videotrans too.19:20
Romsteronly says glibc19:20
Romsterso pretty much only install what you need.19:20
thrice`hm, i'll try to build and see what it says19:21
Romsterwhats going on here mplayer at rc2? i thought that got updated to a snapshot.19:22
Romsteri'd have that as r2617219:23
Romsterbut that's me.19:23
Romsterpredatorfreak, is that near head or some way older revision that another distro chose?19:24
predatorfreakIt is a snapshot.19:25
predatorfreakA snapshot of what will become 1.0rc219:25
thrice`configure: error: ffmpeg is required, please get it from
thrice`looks like you at least need that :)19:25
predatorfreakBecause 1.0rc1 is totally buggy.19:25
Romsterinstalling mplaer atm19:26
Romsterin safe-build19:26
Romsterhmmz rc2 is buggy i had to drop to rc1 but that's got security issues.19:26
Romstervideotrans didn't work with rc2 but did with rc119:27
Romsterso that says something.19:27
Romsterbe intersting to see how it works with that snapshot.19:27
Romsteryou'd think mplayer devs would release a rc3 at that revison.19:28
Romsterthen again they won't with libdvdnav yet either.19:28
Romsterand ffmpeg and x264 are just as bad at not releasing a archive.19:29
predatorfreakrc2 is out?19:34
Romsteri386/mmx.h:24:2: warning: #warning Everything in this header is deprecated, use plain asm()! New code using this header will be rejected.19:34
Romsterno idea19:34
predatorfreakNo, it's not.19:34
predatorfreakand don't ask me, videotrans is probably using some totally ancient mencoder option that got pruned.19:35
predatorfreakFix videotrans, as mencoder from that snapshot works perfectly in my experience.19:35
Romster-O4 -march=native -mtune=native -pipe19:35
Romsterdistcc made it do k6-3 on the other box and then try and link that back with the athlon-tbird i have set on mydesktop pc..19:36
Romsterplus that pc is a k6-2 not a k6-3 so gcc is wrong there.19:37
Romsteri haven't tryed on the snapshot yet19:37
predatorfreakThe reasoning behind doing that originally was "mplayer is smart and will always pick the best options"19:38
Romsterbut it didnt' work with the old rc2 in opt.19:38
predatorfreakApparently not so.19:38
predatorfreakRomster: As-in the one in opt NOW?19:38
predatorfreakBefore it was rc1.19:38
Romsterno the old rc2 in opt...19:38
predatorfreakrc2 hasn't been released yet.19:38
predatorfreakThat's a SNAPSHOT of SVN, reflecting what rc2 will become.19:38
Romsteri don't bloody knwo all i know there was a plaine mplayer-rc2 in opt before you edited it to a snapshot19:39
Romsterthat was broken.19:39
predatorfreakNo, there wasn't.19:39
predatorfreakThere was mplayer rc1.19:39
Romsterand i went down to rc1 as sugested in videotrans19:39
Romsterbull shit.19:39
predatorfreakLook at the log.19:39
* Romster goes thish opt gitweb19:40
predatorfreakor maybe there was, I forget.19:40
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predatorfreakmm, yeah, there was.19:40
predatorfreakGot confused.19:40
predatorfreakRomster: But if their shit only works with rc1.19:40
predatorfreakFigure out the bug.19:40
predatorfreakand fix their scripts.19:40
Romsterdidn't think i was wrong this time <<19:41
predatorfreakRomster: See above.19:41
Romsterwell i hadn't tryed with the snapshot yet.19:41
predatorfreakIf it works but rc2 doesn't.19:41
predatorfreakI'd be surprised.19:41
Romsterrc2 didn't work and it worked on rc1 but i have not tryed it on 1.0rc2-r26172 yet.19:42
Romsteralso at leas sed that -O4 to -O319:42
predatorfreakIt falls back.19:42
predatorfreakIt doesn't matter really.19:42
predatorfreakRomster: Like I said, if it doesn't work with rc2 or the snapshot version.19:43
Romsterwill hgg use -O3 if it sees even a -O20 or something?19:43
predatorfreakFix videotrans.19:43
predatorfreakYes, gcc falls back to -O3.19:43
Romsterwell using native with distcc is apparantly a bad idea.19:43
Romsteryou should use the CFLAGS19:44
predatorfreakIf I do I have to hax0r shit to make it work right everywhere.19:44
RomsterCFLAGS="-O3 `echo $CFLAGS |sed -e 's/-O[s0-3] //'`"19:45
Romsternot damn hard.19:45
predatorfreakThat's not that damn problem.19:46
Romsterbut i'll jsut for the new snapshot and add that for myown stuff.19:46
predatorfreakYou have to force -pipe, otherwise it dies.19:46
Romsterits the fact mplayer chooses native.19:46
predatorfreakRomster: No, I mean.19:47
predatorfreakBuild mplayer without -pipe in your CFLAGS.19:47
Romsterwhy is -pipe a requiremnet.19:47
predatorfreakIt dies on one of it's H264 files.19:47
predatorfreakSome weird fucking thing I don't quite get.19:47
Romsteri don't have it on my system anymre sicne i compile in a tmpfs19:47
predatorfreakThen just build mplayer with your standard CFLAGS and watch it die.19:48
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RomsterCFLAGS="-O3 `echo $CFLAGS |sed -e 's/-O[s0-3] //'` -pipe"19:48
Romsterwow so hard.19:48
predatorfreakI had to hack LDFLAGS at one point too, hopefully they fixed that shit.19:48
* Romster trys to build without -pipe19:49
Romstercrazy how programers break stuff in crazy ways19:51
predatorfreakEnjoying your no -pipe breakage? :D19:52
Romsteri mean ok some mistake.. but they should test before release.19:52
Romsternot yet19:52
predatorfreakThey have tested it.19:52
predatorfreakThey're too lazy to fix the code.19:52
Romsterso they released it as that.. and knowingly too.19:53
Romsterwhere is the shot gun <<19:53
predatorfreakWell, apparently it's a bit complex.19:53
predatorfreakand their code is finicky and impossible to fix in a logical way.19:53
predatorfreakor someshit like that.19:53
predatorfreakSo basically everyone just has to force -pipe19:53
predatorfreakcabac.h:529: error: can't find a register in class 'GENERAL_REGS' while reloading 'asm'19:55
predatorfreakcabac.h:529: error: 'asm' operand has impossible constraints19:55
predatorfreakThat's the error.19:55
predatorfreakoh wait sorry.19:56
predatorfreakIt's -fomit-frame-pointer.19:56
predatorfreakI forgot the flag XD19:56
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predatorfreakGod-damn I'm tired.19:57
thrice`Romster: your repo doesn't show up in portdb19:57
predatorfreakRomster: Wrong CFLAG XD19:58
predatorfreakthrice`: His host is offline.19:58
thrice`mpeg2enc is required too, Romster19:58
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thrice`er, mjpegtools?19:59
predatorfreakRomster: export CFLAGS="$(echo $CFLAGS | sed -e 's/-O[s0-3]/-O3/') -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer"20:00
predatorfreakAdding that, bumping release and commiting.20:00
cruxbot[opt.git]: mplayer: Utilise user CFLAGS, but keep in line with mplayer optimisation choices.20:01
Romster-fomit-frame-pointer is pointless it's enabled by default and and as i beleave it it's on if you don't use -g20:02
Romsterhmm why didn't i think of doing that with sed...20:02
Romsteri'ma dumbarse at times...20:03
predatorfreakIt's not on x86.20:03
predatorfreakAs it breaks debugging with certain things.20:03
predatorfreakTrust me, build without -fomit-frame-pointer.20:03
predatorfreakIt borks.20:03
Romster-O also turns on -fomit-frame-pointer on machines where doing so does not interfere with debugging.20:04
Romsterwithout -g would mean not debuging or i'm missing something else.20:04
predatorfreakIt doesn't state without -g.20:04
predatorfreakIt sttes exactly "where doing so does not interfere with debugging."20:05
Romsterwithout -g means not a debug build.20:05
predatorfreakThat means with or without -g.20:05
predatorfreakTry it, I guarantee mplayer will break on x86.20:05
predatorfreak100% guarantee'd.20:05
Romsterso how would one check ehat it's assumptions are.20:05
predatorfreakRomster: They don't elaborate.20:05
predatorfreakIt's just old knowledge I gained a long damn time ago.20:06
predatorfreakThey speak in cryptospeak.20:07
RomsterChecking for word size ... ./configure: line 2960: /tmp/mplayer-conf-9991-14491: Permission denied20:13
Romstertrying to access /tmp20:13
predatorfreakRomster: works here.20:13
predatorfreakStop mounting /tmp noexec? :P20:13
Romsterit works i just noticed that.20:13
Romsteri'm building in fakeroot20:13
Romsterand /tmp is noexec20:13
predatorfreakI'm surprised it does..20:14
Romsteryou don't get that error?20:15
thrice`ok, after all of that, mplayer dies20:16
Romsterwhat error?20:16
thrice`1.0rc2 failed with videotrans o.O20:16
Romsterah use rc120:17
Romsteror goto that snapshot predatorfreak has.20:17
thrice`that worked?20:17
predatorfreakRomster: I don't mount /tmp noexec.20:17
predatorfreakRomster: it's in opt, I don't magically have a snapshot in my ports repo :P20:18
Romsterbut i haven't tested with predatorfreak's snapshot yet and yes it works with 1.0rc120:18
predatorfreakFix videotrans!20:18
Romsteri'm working on it now ffs20:18
predatorfreakThey've got fucked up, old scripts.20:18
predatorfreakand need to be fixed.20:18
Romsteri can't compile any bloody faster.20:19
thrice`1.0RC1 doesn't like --codecsdir= .. hrm20:19
Romsterjust omit that.20:19
Romsterfinds it on it's own20:19
predatorfreakDamnit Lightnin Hopkins keeps making me go "DAMN IT MPD STOP NOT PLAYING LIGHTNIN' HOPKINS."20:21
predatorfreakBlues is definitely the music of the Gods <_<20:23
thrice`ah, mplayer 1.0rc1 worked20:38
predatorfreakBuggy scripts!20:40
* predatorfreak whips Romster 20:40
predatorfreakWork faster! :P20:40
Romsterpredatorfreak, i don't know what crac your on but mplayer builds without -pipe just fine20:44
predatorfreakRomster: See WAY above20:45
predatorfreak<predatorfreak> oh wait sorry.20:45
predatorfreak<predatorfreak> It's -fomit-frame-pointer.20:45
predatorfreak<predatorfreak> I forgot the flag XD20:45
Romsteryou may wanna add -masm20:45
Romsterbut the user can do that to there CFLAGS though20:46
predatorfreakRomster: Trust me, the mplayer developers have confirmed it.20:47
predatorfreakIt requires -fomit-frame-pointer.20:47
RomsterOn most systems that use stabs format, -g enables use of extra debugging information that only GDB can use20:47
Romsterso there is some regardless of not having -g so that would mean most systems would disable -fomit-frame-pointer by default20:48
Romsterso why don't they make a darn note of that for that -fomit-frame-pointer option.20:48
predatorfreakThey're idiots20:49
RomsterChecking for kernel support of mmx ... failed21:07
RomsterIt seems that your kernel does not correctly support mmx.21:07
Romsteri recompiled that just last night...21:07
Romsterhmm there is a 586MMX but not a 686 one.21:12
Romsteras i thought playing with CFLAGS can give the impression that gcc/glibc is broken.21:32
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