IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2008-07-07

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pitillogood morning01:14
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rauzmgn01:57
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f1ymorning02:11
teKhello02:12
rauzmorning02:13
cruxbot[opt.git]: lame: update to 3.9802:28
cruxbot[opt.git]: gv: update to 3.6.502:28
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cruxbot[opt.git]: ruby: update to 1.8.703:07
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sepentilman, ping03:40
geomteK, you there ?03:42
teKjup03:43
geomDid ya have a look at psybnc03:43
cptngeom: he committed an updated to 2.3.2 yesterday03:45
cptnhttp://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/contrib.git;a=commit;h=907676f655c7cec85ec7a542f6eb81d4898eeb3403:46
teKlet me know if it doesn't work for you03:46
sepen2.3.2-703:46
teK2.3.2-7-103:46
teKto be exact03:46
sepenxDD03:46
sepenecho "tek" || error_user03:47
teKpsybnc.at itself is great (no news in 2006 and 2007)03:47
sepenxD03:47
geom:-)03:47
rauzshit i can't fix sound on my thinkpad :(03:49
cruxbot[opt.git]: mysql-ruby: install into vendor_ruby directory03:55
cruxbot[opt.git]: ncurses-ruby: install into vendor_ruby directory03:55
cruxbot[opt.git]: sqlite3-ruby: update to 1.2.203:55
rauzhas anybody a Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller working ?04:25
geomrauz, what seems to be the problem ?04:28
rauzin the alsamixer i can not "MM" or "00" the sound04:28
f1ywhat about amixer?04:29
rauzok wenn i make alsaconfig i find the sound card all fine04:30
rauzthen i would configure the sound in the alsamixer but nothing04:30
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f1ytry amixer instead of alsamixer, maybe it would help04:31
sepenrauz, did you selected the snd module in your kernel?04:33
rauzunder the section sound ?04:36
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geomno under the sound section you choose alsa or oss. under PCI Device.. i think thats what he means <<04:43
rauzok yes i have enabled alsa and the intel hd driver04:45
rauzno oss04:45
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sepenhmm05:05
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pitillorauz: zcat /proc/config.gz|grep CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL and zcat /proc/config.gz|grep OSS and if you can, pastebin the output05:12
sepenreally is not necessary to compile the module inside the kernel if you have the alsa-driver package05:20
sepenbut indeed you need the 'snd' one05:21
Ovim-Obscurummorning guys05:47
f1yOvim-Obscurum: morning05:48
Ovim-Obscurum:)05:48
sepenmorning05:48
Ovim-Obscurummorning sepen :)05:48
rauzCONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m05:51
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pitillorauz: are you in the audio group?06:04
rauzjup06:04
pitillorauz: and do you have oss emulation?06:04
rauzaudio::16:rauz06:04
rauzno06:05
pitillo(here using the oss emulation and working with a ich7 without problems)06:05
RedShiftdid you log out and back in?06:05
RedShiftafter adding yourself to the audio group06:05
rauzyes06:06
mike_kany reason to bother with oss nowdays  at all?06:06
mike_kah, ignore it.  I have CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y myself =)06:07
pitillomike_k: here to avoid problems with some games (not sure if can be avoided without oss emulation906:07
rauzmh...06:08
rauzno sound; modules loads , alsa work, thinkpad acpi volume is on but no sound :(06:09
cptnare the outputs unmuted?06:11
cptnalsa outputs are muted by default06:11
rauzi unmuted in the alsamixer "00"06:12
f1yif you add yourself to audio group right now, you have to logout and login again06:12
rauzi have logout and login again06:13
cptnrauz: unmuted both master and pcm?06:13
cptnand both on reasonable levels?06:13
DarkNekrosrauz, do you hear the sound through the earspeakers?06:14
rauzmh... i have no earspeaker here06:15
sepenrauz, look for /proc/asound/card0/06:15
sepenafter load the driver module you should have it06:15
rauzyes there is a /proc/asound/card006:16
cptnrauz: did you uncheck both master and pcm?06:17
cptnor just one of the two?06:18
rauzpcm und master is set to "00" in alsamixer06:18
cptnand levels adjusted too?06:19
cptnjust checking06:19
RedShiftdoesn't the thinkpad have a hardware mute button and volume control?06:20
RedShifttry playing with those06:20
rauzcptn: levels ?06:21
cptnin alsamixer06:21
rauzRedShift:cat /proc/acpi/ibm/volume06:21
rauzlevel:          906:21
rauzmute:           off06:21
cptnon the fader strips press the 'cursor up' to adjust the volume06:21
cptnrauz: default is muted, and level at 006:22
cptnso you have to unmute it and increase the level06:22
cptnhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/images/8/8c/Alsamixer.jpg06:23
cptnthe bars should look something like this06:23
cptn70<>70 is the Master level06:24
rauzcptn: look like this06:24
rauzthe master leve is 77 and pcm is 77<>7706:25
cptnokay06:28
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rauzmh.. can kde make trounles i use kde06:33
rauz?06:33
rauztroubles06:35
pitillorauz: mmmm may be related to arts? (not sure if was arts long time ago...) May be killing it and trying to play a sound again can give you clues06:35
rauzmh...  tail -f /var/log/messages says06:37
rauzkernel: ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:686: hda_codec_setup_stream: NID=0x4, stream=0x0, channel=0, format=0x006:37
pitillorauz: have you tried to run alsaconfig?06:39
rauzyes i run alsconfig06:43
rauzand it say it configure modprobe.conf and load the driver06:43
rauzthan i make alsamixer to unmuted master and pcm and than i make alsactl store06:44
pitillorauz: which kernel version are you using?06:44
rauz2.6.25.906:44
rauzi put alsa on the rc.conf to restore the setting after the boot06:45
pitilloit's strange (sounds like you are doing it right)06:45
rauz:)06:49
rauzin my /var/log/messages says evertime i play some sound06:49
rauzs06:49
rauz/signup/signup.php?nats=MzA5OTo1MTo0,0,0,0,0&step=206:50
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rauzkernel: ALSA sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:686: hda_codec_setup_stream: NID=0x2, stream=0x5, channel=0, format=0x3107:07
cptnrauz: first google hit for that error:07:09
cptnhttp://lkml.org/lkml/2008/4/22/55307:09
cptnSubject: From 2.6.24 -> 2.6.25, lost audio (snd-hda-intel)07:09
cptnmaybe that helps?07:09
rauzi think i should go back to 2.6.24 :D07:11
RedShiftyou should file a bugreport07:11
RedShiftor vote for the existing bug report07:12
Ovim-ObscurumHello guys07:13
Ovim-ObscurumI'm gonna set up a ibm netvista 2800 here for simple work like mail, internet and irc - do you think, those 266 and 256 mb ram would be enough for X?07:14
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RedShiftOvim-Obscurum: that's enough07:38
RedShiftyou should even be able to run KDE07:38
RyoSRedShift: who wants to run kde?07:45
Ovim-Obscurumgeil :D07:46
Ovim-ObscurumBut I only want to run a small XFCE07:46
Ovim-ObscurumOr my own desktop environment07:46
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RyoSgeil..?07:48
Ovim-ObscurumUh sry.07:48
Ovim-ObscurumThat was german.07:48
Ovim-ObscurumI'm from germany. ;)07:48
RyoSo rly07:48
cruxbot[contrib.git]: subversion-perl: Updated 1.4.6 -> 1.5.007:56
sepencptn, ping07:57
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rauzso kernel 2.6.24.708:05
rauznot nice08:05
Ovim-Obscurumwhy?08:05
rauzin alsamixer is no master channel08:05
rauzmore08:06
Ovim-Obscurumouch.08:06
rauzno plan more but i need sound08:06
rauzi have an fr. a present. and there i need sound :(08:06
Ovim-ObscurumMhm.. build new kernel?08:07
Ovim-ObscurumI got 2.6.25.10, works ;) got master channel08:07
Ovim-Obscurumcompiling lasted 2 hrs - on 160 mhz.08:07
Ovim-ObscurumSo if you have got more than 300 mhz, ~1h time ;)08:08
rauzi used slackware i have kernel 2.6.24 -> sound ok then i go to crux kernel 2.6.25 no sound but muste channel download 2.6.24.7 compile works fine but no sound and in the alsamixer no master channel :D08:11
Ovim-ObscurumYou have to compile the necessary modules and configure alsa right :P08:13
Ovim-ObscurumOtherwise it won't work.08:13
rauzi compile the modules and configure alsa08:15
Ovim-Obscurumok ;)08:15
RedShiftIIRC the module you're using has some parameters too08:24
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Man0l0hi08:26
Ovim-Obscurumhi Man0l008:26
Ovim-Obscurumbrb for a cigarette08:26
Ovim-Obscurumre08:34
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: subversion-python: Updated 1.4.6 -> 1.5.009:13
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Ovim-Obscurumyay :D 1.5.009:30
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rauzyeah i have sound :d10:30
rauzkernel 2.6.24.2 sound works10:31
Ovim-ObscurumNice!10:31
sepengreat!10:31
Ovim-Obscurumgz :D10:31
rauzit take a long time but it work fine :D10:31
sepenrauz, maybe you want to help others, so write a guide in the wiki10:31
rauzyeah good idea10:32
sepenor just write a doc similar than other laptop-install docs10:32
rauzcrux is so nice it runs very fast on my laptop10:32
sepenyeah10:33
rauzyes crux on x61s10:33
Ovim-ObscurumIBM?10:33
cptnmy intel-hda on 2.6.25.7 works btw10:33
Ovim-Obscurum;D10:33
rauz:D10:35
rauzmy intel-hda works on 2.6.24.2 ^^10:36
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Ovim-Obscurumhehe10:37
cptnwhich .25 version did you try?10:37
Ovim-ObscurumMe?10:37
cptnno, rauz10:37
Ovim-Obscurumk10:37
rauzthe 25.710:37
cptnoh, okay10:37
tilmansepen: pong10:38
sepenoh yeah tilman10:39
sepencould be possible to have a readme file in mesa3d port?10:39
sepenI mean the same upgrade notes than nvidia, nvidia-legacy-xxx, and ati have10:39
sepenmesa3d also overwrites libGL.so.10:40
sepenI think using gl-select could be helpful in this case10:40
tilmanmmh10:43
tilmani thought the notes in nvidia/ and ati/ were sufficient10:43
tilmansince using mesa3d is the normal case10:43
tilman:D10:43
sepenwell, this is another point of view10:45
sepenmaybe I'm wrong and sounds redundant10:45
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sepengoing to home10:52
sepenbbl10:52
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tilmansepen: imagine there are more proprietary drivers surfacing10:52
tilmaneach time i'd have to update mesa3d/README :D10:52
tilmanjesus fucking christ10:53
tilmanteK: please tell me you know that i'm german :(10:53
rauzrauz -> austria :D10:57
RyoSthis is an invasion! they are shooting back damn!10:58
RyoS/part *screaming*10:58
tilmanthe austrians can have bavaria for all i care :p10:59
RyoShahahaha :D10:59
RyoSi agree on that ;)10:59
rauz^^11:01
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tilman"I used to play in a Death Metal band... Most Death Metal bands have11:10
tilmandark names like 'Obituary' ... 'Mortuary' ... 'Rigor Mortis.' We weren’t11:10
tilmanthat intense. We just went with 'Injured.'" - Mitch Hedberg11:10
tilmanROFL11:10
Rotwangyo all11:11
Rotwangtilman: pity he died11:12
cruxbot[opt.git]: wireshark: disable kerberos support, because it breaks the build.11:12
tilmanhello Rotwang11:12
tilmani don't even know him11:12
tilmanjust read that quote on a mailing list11:12
tilmanteK: applied/pushed, thanks11:14
aon hehe11:14
fetidgodnight11:24
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: phun: 3.5 -> 4.1112:07
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RotwangNSS SSL development headers not found.13:31
Rotwangpidgin fails, can someone confirm?13:31
tilmanno13:31
tilmanRotwang: try updating nspr and nss13:31
tilmani just built pidgin yesterday13:31
teKtilman: you're welcome13:34
teKmike_k13:36
mike_k?13:37
teKI have got a problem with zabbix_server, it wont start if called by /etc/rc13:39
teKsudo /etc/rc.d/zabbix_server start works13:39
teKI'm puzzled. putting usr/sbin/zabbix_server into zabbix_agent  doesn't work either, the start script should be ok13:40
mike_kthe scripts are pretty basic...13:40
mike_k /etc/rc.d/zabbix_server as root does not work?13:40
teKit does13:41
teKbut not at boot time13:41
teKnot [ERROR] is displayed, though13:41
mike_kbtw, are you using dedicated user from post-install?13:41
teKjep13:41
mike_kanything interesting in the server log after the boot?13:42
Rotwangtilman: thanks, i had to install nspr to make pidgin to build13:43
mike_kteK: never saw that, but what comes to mind at first: does $PATH at boot time have all needed stuff? are there any special things in rc.local which might have impact? Does database server starts before the zabbix_server?13:47
tilmanRotwang: ah, okay13:47
Rotwangnss too ;]13:48
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teKpath should be irrelevant as zabbix_server is called via its full path13:51
teKrc.local is empty13:51
teKmysql is up13:51
teKJul  7 20:50:20 basra su[1468]: Successful su for zabbix by root13:52
teKJul  7 20:50:20 basra su[1468]: + console root:zabbix13:52
teKJul  7 20:50:21 basra su[1484]: Successful su for zbxagent by root13:52
teKJul  7 20:50:21 basra su[1484]: + console root:zbxagent13:52
teKis /var/log/authj13:52
teK-j13:52
mike_kdoes zabbix_server logs anything during that? you can increase the logging level of it.13:53
teKthis is awkward.. the connection to mysql is not possible at this point of time13:56
teKsorry13:56
teKand thanks13:56
mike_knp13:56
mike_kmysql starts too long or just wants something else?13:57
teKstarts too slow14:00
teKseems to be some operation done after forking as scripts a executed serialized, I think14:00
mike_kyeah, it's pretty common to find myself rearranging services o_O14:03
teKfirst time for me14:05
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mike_klast time dhcpd said "Error opening '/proc/net/if_inet6' to list IPv6 interfaces" if started before some other ipv6 aware daemons (although module was loaded).14:09
teKoh well :)14:12
teKthere were other issues with dchpd+ipv614:12
rehabdollindeed..14:14
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: tor: permission fixes bug #32014:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: wesnoth-server: permission fixes bug #32014:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: yacy: permission fixes bug #32014:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: beautifulsoup: 3.0.7 -> 3.0.7a14:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: glibmm: 2.16.3 -> 2.16.414:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: wavpack: 4.50.0 -> 4.50.114:56
cruxbot[contrib.git]: pyserial: 2.3 -> 2.414:56
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teKbtw what's the reason for the shadow pkg (broken download currently, btw) to remove /etc/limits? Is this only usefull with libpam compiled in?15:27
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harlequinnhi there, i get this compile error by making the full 'xorg' package (prt-get depinst --install-scripts xorg), the compile error affects in the 'xorg-libxi' - package. the error: "XGetVers.c:88: error: 'sz_xGetExtensionVersionReq' undeclared (first use in this function)". Does anybody know this problem and can help me too solve this?15:36
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cptnharlequinn: is xorg-inputproto installed?16:36
harlequinnif prt-get hasn't installed, then not, i will check, thx16:37
harlequinnis installed16:37
cptnstrange, as sz_xGetExtensionVersionReq is defined in usr/include/X11/extensions/XI.h, which is provided by xorg-inputproto16:38
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harlequinnyeah strange :/ , everything else works perfectly16:41
Rotwangmaybe you are using some strange cflags ;]16:43
harlequinnstandard crux settings16:44
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harlequinnthat sucks :(16:48
Rotwanghaha16:50
Rotwangsame error here16:50
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harlequinnoh bad16:50
cptnbuild here...17:04
cptnah17:04
cptnthe latest update of xorg-inputproto broke it17:04
cptnif you remove the 'patch' call from xorg-inputproto, xorg-libxi will build again17:05
harlequinnthx, i will try17:06
harlequinnthanks a lot dude, that works :)17:08
cptnyou're welcome :-)17:09
cptntilman: 267a354fe2730a040e8c686608c24c7bb9c7b246 breaks xorg-libxi17:09
cptntilman: since that one needs the sz_xGetExtensionVersionReq define17:10
cruxbot[contrib.git]: gsasl: Updated version to 0.2.2717:32
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Rotwangapropos Mitch Hedberg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X49fQlwXWfg17:46
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geomhmm strange..22:54
geomi got ms in a vbox. trying to install office2003 suit.22:54
geomi can read all files off CD except for one22:54
geomhm linux must be really strick on file naming..22:54
geomstrict*22:54
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