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| cptn | and also "I'll", not ill :-) | 13:09 |
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| jws | grr :-) | 13:10 |
| jws | or even more formall "I will" | 13:10 |
| sepen | hehehe | 13:10 |
| teK | I'll was forbidden in our english classe (at last the last two years) | 13:10 |
| treach | wut? | 13:11 |
| teK | at least in tests.. | 13:11 |
| treach | weird.. | 13:11 |
| jws | teK: why ? | 13:11 |
| aon | perhaps they wanted to see that they can spell "will" | 13:11 |
| treach | teK: are you still beginning all your letters with "Sehr Geehrte(sp?)" or "An den Herr"? :> | 13:12 |
| aon | jws: i'm pretty sure it's "formal" :) | 13:12 |
| treach | Sorry if I got that wrong, but it's been a long time.. | 13:12 |
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| aon | or perhaps you just missed a y | 13:12 |
| jws | bahah | 13:13 |
| teK | wtf? :) | 13:13 |
| jws | will+y = self explanatory | 13:13 |
| treach | yeah, just like "Willy Brandt" :D | 13:14 |
| jws | aon: strangely enough i got penalised for using ill in a formal essay :S | 13:16 |
| jws | this was back in hs | 13:16 |
| jws | teacher must have been a non english background speaker :D | 13:16 |
| RedShift | jws: penalised... you got spanked? | 13:17 |
| teK | oh well.. I always had a B until she got my teacher | 13:17 |
| teK | -got +became | 13:17 |
| teK | omg :p | 13:17 |
| aon | well, i used to spell "surprise" without the initial r from when i first learned the word in early 90's to somewhere in 2006, when it was first corrected in an essay by a teacher | 13:17 |
| treach | haha | 13:17 |
| jws | ha | 13:18 |
| treach | teK: sounds like you have radical ways to deal with your teachers. :p | 13:18 |
| teK | haha | 13:18 |
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| sepen | hi ricardo | 14:06 |
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| roliveira | hola Salaman | 14:36 |
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| roliveira | hi Rotwang | 14:49 |
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| pedja | Does current udev look for rules only in /lib/udev/rules.d, or it still checks /etc/udev/rules.d? | 19:27 |
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| VileTimes | Why is crux giving me a kernel panic - not syncingN No init found. Try passing the init= option to kernel? | 19:51 |
| VileTimes | I had absolutely no trouble install crux on my laptop. | 19:51 |
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| go|dfish | VileTimes: Did you build your own kernel? | 19:56 |
| VileTimes | Yeah, I did. | 19:57 |
| VileTimes | I guess I mucked something up ... | 19:57 |
| VileTimes | Ok, back to the drawing board then. | 19:57 |
| VileTimes | Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. | 19:58 |
| go|dfish | VileTimes: Most likely to do with your root filesystem. | 19:58 |
| VileTimes | If I have a boot partition set on hda2, could that be causing the problem? I configured lilo to look in the right place. | 19:59 |
| go|dfish | Well, there are a few reasons for this error. a) not got correct filesysetm support, b) missed something else in the kernel config or c) incorrect values in your bootloader | 20:00 |
| pedja | And after editing lilo.conf, you rerun lilo? | 20:01 |
| VileTimes | yes, pedja. | 20:01 |
| pedja | i forgot once :) | 20:01 |
| VileTimes | Ok go|dfish, I'll recompile the kernel and not remove a thing. If it works, then I know it's something I removed in my eralier compile. | 20:02 |
| pedja | it was fun... | 20:02 |
| go|dfish | well dont do that yet. | 20:02 |
| go|dfish | make sure you lilo.conf is correct first :) | 20:02 |
| VileTimes | Ok ... I've got lba32 set (this is a 200gig HD in passing) | 20:04 |
| go|dfish | That's why I stopped using lilo, kept forgetting to run lilo and changes and always locked myself out. :) | 20:04 |
| go|dfish | Eh, after changes, that is. | 20:04 |
| VileTimes | install=text, boot=/dev/hda, label=CRUX, root=/dev/hda2, read-only, vga=775 | 20:04 |
| VileTimes | Seems pretty inocuous to me. | 20:05 |
| go|dfish | VileTimes: What kind of drive is it? | 20:05 |
| go|dfish | It's definitely IDE ? | 20:05 |
| VileTimes | Its a Seagate IDE, definitely. I had Ubunut on it for ages and I wanted to switch to crux. | 20:05 |
| VileTimes | *ubuntu | 20:05 |
| go|dfish | Cool, and root is hda2 and you did run lilo. Which would suggest something incorrect in the kernel. | 20:06 |
| VileTimes | yes, I ran it in verbose mode and it tells me "/boot/boot0/300 exists - no boot sector backup made | 20:07 |
| VileTimes | *boot.0300 | 20:08 |
| VileTimes | Quick question about compiles: do I need to do a make clean after recompile? | 20:24 |
| VileTimes | *every | 20:24 |
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| VileTimes | Nope. That didn't fix a thing. | 20:36 |
| VileTimes | A clean kernel recompile and I still get the same error | 20:37 |
| go|dfish | with everything built-in? | 20:37 |
| VileTimes | Everything I did a zcat to get the old config, did a make clean before, recompiled everything and it still gives me the same error. | 20:38 |
| VileTimes | What the heck does it want me to init anyhow> | 20:39 |
| VileTimes | ? | 20:39 |
| VileTimes | Hmmm ... I wonder if installing grub instead of lilo will make a difference. | 20:40 |
| VileTimes | I've heard that GRUB is a little more flexible when it comes to booting from diffrfent partitions. | 20:40 |
| VileTimes | err.... there's no grub on the crux cd!? | 20:42 |
| go|dfish | there is. | 20:44 |
| go|dfish | on 2.4 anyways. | 20:44 |
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| Vile | Bah, to heck with it. I've decided to change the main hard drive with an smaller, unused one and do a fresh install. I have a feeling lilo doesn't like the partitioning scheme. | 21:37 |
| go|dfish | What is the partition scheme? | 21:37 |
| Vile | hda1 has data that I desperately want to keep. It's my old home partition from my ubuntu install. It's gigantic, so it isn't very easy to gpart. | 21:39 |
| Vile | So I was booting off of a partition that physically after hda1. I'm not sure if that would make a difference, but it is the only difference in terms of partition layouts between my laptop (which works) and my desktop (which doesn't work). | 21:47 |
| Vile | *was | 21:48 |
| go|dfish | hmm. | 21:50 |
| Vile | If this installation works, then it's a limitation with lilo, most likely. If not, then I think the default crux kernel set-up might be misrepresenting my drives. I remember under ubuntu, I needed to refer to my devices as sda or sdc, not hda or hdc. That's the only other discrepancy I can think of. | 21:54 |
| go|dfish | hm. | 21:55 |
| go|dfish | Vile: You're right. | 21:55 |
| go|dfish | I recall in my last laptop, with whatever kernel version I was using, the IDE drivers showed the drives as sd* | 21:56 |
| go|dfish | after an upgrade. | 21:56 |
| Vile | Referring to the drives as hda/hdc seems to work. Ubuntu used to complain. | 21:57 |
| Vile | I can mount them, fdisk them ... no problem. | 21:57 |
| go|dfish | Well, it could be your chipset. | 21:59 |
| go|dfish | ""~some IDE chipsets now default to Libata drivers in the kernel | 22:00 |
| go|dfish | rather than some legacy IDE drivers"" | 22:00 |
| go|dfish | Wait no, that doesn't make sense. | 22:00 |
| go|dfish | Otherwise it wouldn't find your kernel at all. | 22:00 |
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| Vile | Ok ... here we go. Reboot initiated. | 22:07 |
| Vile | Nope ... same error | 22:08 |
| Vile | Exact same kernel panic. | 22:08 |
| Vile | The config included with the kernel isn't picking up my drives for some odd reason. | 22:09 |
| Vile | Hmmm ... let's see how Slackware handles this puzzle. :) | 22:11 |
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| Vile | Well, it seems like Slack likes my disk just fine. | 22:38 |
| Vile | It also calls them hd*, but it can definitely use them. | 22:39 |
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