IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2008-10-08

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teKRomster: what do you mean exactly00:13
nipuLRomster: i think crux.nu is having a long over due scheduled update00:37
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cptnwell, git works for me00:48
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Romstergit fetch01:33
Romsterfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly01:33
Romsteran i just tried it now again01:33
sependid you tried with a new clone repo?01:43
Romsterwhy would i need todo that when it work before the maintenance.01:45
Romsteradding verbose gives no extra info.01:46
Romsteri'd say my connection is refused, nothing on my end has changed.01:46
Romstersepen, on another note why did you add them pkgmk checks for qt4 and qt3 like that and not modify configure.ac?01:47
Romsteri got told off for doing exactly what you've done to the virtualbox port.01:47
sepenthat increases the performance?01:47
Romster...01:47
Romsterit does the checks the right way.01:48
Romsterthat's what configure is fore.01:48
sepenand my lines no?01:48
Romsterfor*01:48
cptnsepen: have you tried just specifying both qt3 and qt4?01:50
Romsteryou edit autonconf.ac to do do the checks for enabling qt4 and qt3 or disable them... then autoconf then buld noo need to add in your work around that i got told off for doing, and even the crux devs have said is the wrong way to be adding pkgmk -i |grep checks.01:50
cptnsince it appeared that it'll check whether the binaries (moc IIRC) are there01:51
Romsterbah i can't type right... configure.ac01:51
sepencptn, I was using qt4 and qt3 before this change01:51
cptnso it might just do the right thing automatically01:51
Romsterif in doubt i read the file and see what it does.01:51
sepenRomster, hmm01:52
Romstereasier to read autoconfigure.{ac,in} than the configure script itself.01:53
sepenRomster, well Ill try when having some more time, now I'm at office01:54
cptntoo bad virtualbox doesn't use autoconf...01:54
sepenno no, no that, Ill investigate about01:54
Romsterhttp://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/ good read.01:54
Romsterhmm...01:54
sepenok thanks01:55
Romsterso what build system i should look for myself.01:55
Romsterwhat the god damn....01:57
Romsteri can git clone contrib vbut i can't even git fetch in my existing git tree that i have commited stuff in wating to push01:57
Romsterdid soemone alter the paths?01:58
sepenRomster, did you read the tilman mail?01:58
RomsterI read the ML and it's only got the one scheduled email.01:58
sepenalso the sip one, crux.nu was in maitenance01:58
Romsteri read that other one but when is that ment to take effect?01:58
Romsterand how is that ment to affect git01:58
Romsterthat affects the ports driver files01:59
cptnsepen: mmmh, did you know that virtualbox doesn't to build with gcc 4.3?01:59
Romstercorrect me if i'm worng01:59
sepencptn, no01:59
sepenohh I've gcc 4.2.401:59
cptnyeah, only crux 2.5 will go to 4.302:00
Romsteri've compiled gcc-4.2.4  with my gcc-4.3.202:00
sepenfor some reasons I prt-get locked it02:00
sepenno idea about new versions02:00
Romsterhttp://romster.dyndns.org:8080/linux/ports/crux/romster/gcc42/02:00
cptnsepen: http://9b52ae4d3d14f499.paste.se/02:00
sepenohhh02:00
Romsteri could throw it in contrib like the gcc34 is.02:00
sepencptn, thanks for the advisement02:01
cptnsepen: no problem02:01
sepencptn, but surely the innotek(sun) guys would fix i02:01
sepen*it02:01
cptnwell, they may eventually02:01
Romsterso why is there no email about breaking git and having to reclone?02:01
sepenno mail, still in maintenance02:02
Romsterand then i have to transfer my commits i've got locally over to the new clone02:02
Romster...02:02
cptnsepen: unfortunately, the trunk version still has that error02:02
Romsterbe damn nice if they added a ETA02:02
sepencptn, you compiled the trunk one, ohh02:02
Romsteralso i figured otu the time i got the email at 05:32 and the time difference conversion puts the maintance at 06:00 for me so i had 30 minutes warning...02:03
sepenwell, quick decision I suppose02:03
Romsteri'll just hold off on contrib and yet sepen was able to push virtualbox.02:03
sepenRomster, surely I pushed it before 'sip' starts the git-repos maintenance02:04
sepensip has a lot of work, so I think he needs to optimize his time02:04
Romstersepen did the commit at 10:00 my time02:05
Romstersepen, after...02:05
sepenummm02:05
Romstermaintaince started at 06:00 my time you pushed that at 10:0002:05
sepenyeh02:05
Romsterand i got the email for maintenance at 05:3202:06
Romsterdid you reclone contrib?02:06
cptnI think you mentioned that already02:06
Romsteror edit a path or something?02:06
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cptnRomster: how's your fork coming along btw?02:35
cptnlooks like it's going to be fairly different from CRUX02:37
Romsteryes it's departing a fiar bit.02:40
Romsterfair*02:40
Romsterstill keeping it for experienced users. and as minimal as possible.02:41
cptnminimal?02:41
cptnit sounds more like it's a feature for you to add more features02:41
Romstersmall number of ports low automation.02:41
cptnah02:41
cptnI misunderstood that for minimal complexity02:42
Romsterwell i've been hacking away at pkgutils and made some changes still i'm going to be making more.02:42
cptnmaking it more powerful and flexible02:42
Romsterusing runit works well.02:42
cptnI take02:42
Romsterpretty much if i can.02:42
Romsteri'm running it on my desktop and it's stable.02:44
Romsteri did have some minor teething issues with new hardware my old k7 motherboard died so i got a phenom quad now.02:45
cptnah, nice02:45
cptnwell, not the dying MB of course, but the quad02:45
Romster4GB ram expandable to 16GB 1.16TB in lvm2 nvidia 9600gt02:45
Romsterworking well i might of slightly over did the psu rating it's a 720watt peak 650watt conrtinious.02:46
Romstercontinuous*02:46
Romsteri'll be able to use it later on dual video. when i change the mobo.02:47
Romsterthe k7 was reliable too bad the motherboard let up.02:47
cptnyeah, just one year short of its 10y anniversary :-)02:47
Romsterbut stuff happens02:48
Romsterhehe02:48
cptnof the CPU family, that is02:48
Romsteryeah02:48
Romsterit's a solid performer i had it running 100% in 40+C hot summer no over heating.02:48
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Rotwanghttp://www.fotoo.pl/hosting-zdjec/img/c3d0adc6af9221771aeb959a20a8f5d0/success_at_failing.jpg02:59
Romstercptn, although it was way underpowered for my needs, this quad does nicely.03:02
RomsterRotwang, lol03:02
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rehabdoll4gb ram in a 32bit os?04:13
rehabdollwhy not just throw away 1gb? :)04:13
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rehabdollwee, rsync works again \o/04:14
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sepenRomster, I recently pushed into contrib.git04:19
sepenit works fine for me04:19
sepenalso Im still using my old working copy04:19
Romsterwith url = crux:/home/crux/scm/ports/contrib.git ?04:20
Romstergit fetch04:20
Romsterfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly04:20
Romstersame stuff...04:21
Romsternoticed a git clone gave me a url = git://crux.nu/ports/contrib.git04:21
Romsterbut i haven't tried changing it.04:21
Romsterit worked as it was.04:21
cptnthat's the public checkout url04:21
cptnthese are not for pushing04:22
Romsteruntil the maintenance04:22
Romsterthought as much04:22
cptnthat has been like this forever04:22
sepenI'm using the ssh clone method04:22
sepengit clone ssh:// ....04:22
cptnyeah04:22
Romstermy git is upto date.04:23
cptnyes, you can read from git:// urls04:23
cptnbut pushing only workes over ssh04:23
cptn*works04:23
Romstergathered that might of been the case but i'm only fetching atm...04:23
Romsterso i can do a rebase before i push.04:24
Romsterbut even a fetch fails.04:24
Romstergot me beat.04:24
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Romsterit's crux: as i got that in my ~/.ssh/config as a alias04:26
Romstergit clone crux:/home/crux/scm/ports/contrib.git04:27
RomsterInitialized empty Git repository in /tmp/contrib/.git/04:27
Romsterfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly04:27
Romsterok something odd.04:27
Romsteri guess ssh isn't working.04:27
sepenHost crux04:27
sepen  Hostname crux.nu04:27
sepen  Port 222204:27
sepen  User xxx04:27
sepenbut I've ~/.ssh/config04:27
Romstergot that too that uses the key file.04:28
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Romsterand it worked before sip messed with the box. so he must of changed something.04:28
Romsteri'll wait.04:28
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sepenxD04:29
Romsterand i haven't changed any settings so i doubt i got a miss-configuration.04:30
rehabdollyeah, i cant fetch either04:30
RomsterIdentityFile so i got multiple keys for various things as alias.04:30
sepenwell, I can04:30
Romsterhrmm04:31
Romsterfirewall on ip rage or something that doesn't affect sepen04:31
sepenone sec04:31
Romsterwould explain it.04:31
Romsterso rehabdoll has the same issue.04:32
cptnRomster, rehabdoll: can you try again?04:36
rehabdollyay04:37
rehabdollit's alive!04:37
cptngood, thanks for testing04:38
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rehabdollwhat changed?04:40
cptnrehabdoll: can you try again?04:41
cptnlater git's move git-shell to /usr/lib/git-core04:41
cptnused to bin in /usr/bin04:41
cptnso your login shells were broken04:41
rehabdollah04:42
rehabdollstill works btw04:42
cptngood04:42
cruxbot[core.git]: man-pages: update to 3.1104:46
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sepenI really like the electrobel community -> http://www.electrobel.be/muzik/style/Nu-Jazz#05:11
Romstercoking dinner working git now.05:12
cruxbot[contrib.git]: libtheora: x86_64 fix (thanks rehabdoll)05:13
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rehabdolltheres a new xinelib btw05:36
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Romsteryeah hadn't loked just yet05:59
Romsterlooked*05:59
Romsterafter i eat dinner05:59
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jtnlhi06:53
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jtnl_Rotwang, in http://crux.nu/Wiki/LXDEPorts link the http://lxde.org/wiki/CRUX ist fail06:57
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cptn-> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/CRUX06:58
Rotwangyou can grab the base install packages from core and opt (provided by Matt Housh) or core and opt (provided by Tilman Sauerbeck)06:58
Rotwang0_o06:58
Rotwangjtnl_: thanks, ill fix that06:59
jtnl_Rotwang, nothing, I also benefited because I was looking for that file07:01
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thrice`wow, lots of complaining in the backlog :)07:12
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cptnthrice`: you think so?07:32
cptn;-)07:33
thrice`http://crux.nu/Main/IrcChannels  I've noticed that one didn't update too well, however :)07:33
cptnthrice`: hah07:34
cptnthanks for that07:34
thrice`sure :)07:35
cptnit looks like all tables are broken07:38
cptnfixed, thanks07:40
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morlenxusIs it possible to restore an old port version? Current version of the nvidia port doesn't support my graphic card anymore and i want to switch back to the old version.08:25
pitill0morlenxus, checking directly gitweb to look for the version you want?08:26
pitill0morlenxus, btw, tillman talk about a good util, pkg-export (not sure if it can be a good idea for nvidia too)08:27
morlenxusah thanks08:28
pitill0:)08:29
morlenxusoh, what's the webgit url?08:30
pitill0morlenxus,  http://crux.nu/gitweb/ in the development section08:31
morlenxuscool08:31
pitill0ummm pkgexport was the command, without the -, sorry08:32
jaegermorlenxus: did you already check the legacy drivers to see if support for your gpu got moved there?08:33
morlenxusHm no?08:37
morlenxusYou mean the xorg 2d drivers?08:37
jaegerI mean the nvidia binary drivers. there are 2 sets08:38
sepenmorlenxus, $ prt-get readme nvidia08:38
sepen--> *** NOTE for users of legacy hardware ***08:38
sependid you read it before nothing?08:38
morlenxusoh08:39
morlenxussec08:39
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Romstermorlenxus, there is 2 legacy ports in contrib.08:53
Rotwangthere are* ?08:54
Rotwangbtw. what is responsible for caps lock?08:55
Romsternvidia-legacy-71xx and nvidia-legacy-96xx08:55
Rotwanghow can i enable/disable it via command line?08:55
Rotwangwithout additional 3rd party apps08:55
Romsterxkeys maybe?08:55
Romsteri arn't quite sure why would you wanna do that.08:55
RotwangI'm just curious08:56
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Rotwangwtf happened to portdb?? |_O09:43
cruxbot[contrib.git]: xine-lib: 1.1.14 -> 1.1.1509:45
Romsterindeed only just noticed myself.09:46
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rehabdollread the ml :>09:47
Romsterffs i've read it a million times.09:49
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Romsteri know sip is doing upgrades.09:49
Romsterpaths will need fixing.09:50
cptnwhich path?09:50
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Romsterportdb on crux.nu09:53
cptnyes, what is your problem?09:53
Romsterit's not listing the main repositories now.09:53
cptnah09:53
Romstermy problem is rehabdoll telling me to read the ML :D and i have09:54
Romstersimple thing.09:54
cptnwell, I guess he was refering to the discussion on the new portdb09:54
cptnthat went on today09:54
Romsternot worried i'm sure sip is onto that.09:54
cptnbecause there's a portdb caching problem (which may cause the missing repos)09:54
Romsteri read that ML post on tilman09:54
cptnit was by nipuL09:54
Romsteri meant the older discusion one.09:55
Romstercrux-devel] Proposed git->rsync script updates09:55
cupe^Hello fellas09:55
cptnhey cupe^09:55
Romsterah nipuL  is writing a new one.09:57
Romsterhi cupe^09:57
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Rotwangwhat can i do to speed up torrent in mldonkey?12:29
Rotwangsepen any ideas?12:29
sepenopening ports in your router?12:34
sepenreally I've no idea about btorrent12:34
sepens/btorrent/torrents12:35
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cruxbot[contrib.git]: tig: 0.12 -> 0.12.113:32
teKgit IS working13:33
teK;)13:33
tilman\o/13:34
tilmansepen: hooray nethack :D13:55
sepen?13:55
tilmanhttp://mikeux.dyndns.org/crux/files/ports-mult-driver.html13:55
sepenxD13:55
sepenI've another version for showing differences when ports are deleted, checkout, edited13:56
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sepentilman, did you make a test?14:03
tilmannope14:03
tilmanhaha, chinese democracy on nov 25th14:12
aonright14:28
thrice`huh??14:28
aonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Democracy14:29
thrice`o'rly?14:29
tilman:D:D14:29
aonya rly14:29
tilmanaon: i think he was referring to the release (data) ;)14:29
tilmandate*14:29
aon:)14:30
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sepentilman, I updated the mult driver stuff14:33
sepenls14:33
iascorgaprintf '%s\n' *14:34
sepen$14:34
sepeniascorga, :)14:34
tilman"On April 1, 2003, The Offspring announced that they would be naming their upcoming album Chinese Democrazy (You Snooze, You Lose)."14:37
tilmanhahaha14:37
sepen:)14:37
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nipuLi swear they need to teach a course on how to get porn off the internet without screwing up your computer22:04
iascorga:)22:12
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nipuLpfft, he could have least had some decent stuff :\22:21
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prologicwww.neurosky.com23:41
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iascorgaThat is some odd stuff right there.23:47

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