IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2008-10-25

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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: poppler: udpate to 0.10.005:07
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: poppler-data: update to 0.2.105:07
tilmanwth, sip dropped epdfview o_O05:29
tilmanand i didn't notice05:29
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: epdfview: resurrected.05:39
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: epdfview: adopted and fixed the build with gcc 4.3.05:39
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: openbox: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: openbox: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: [notify] wireshark: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: subversion: updated to 1.5.405:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: poppler: udpate to 0.10.005:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: poppler-data: update to 0.2.105:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: epdfview: resurrected.05:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: epdfview: adopted and fixed the build with gcc 4.3.05:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: openbox: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: Merge branch '2.4' into 2.505:42
tilmanepdfview patch wasn't needed on the 2.4 branch ;)05:43
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ximondaHi there!06:01
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Rotwanghi ximonda06:13
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RotwangI want in my pre-install script to check for a certain condition07:13
Rotwangif this condition is not met i want prt-get to quit07:13
tilmanwhat kind of condition?07:14
Rotwangso i've foun killall prt-get or kill $(pidof /usr/bin/prt-get)07:14
Rotwangonly solution07:14
Rotwangi want to check if cdrkit is installed07:14
tilman# Depends on: cdrkit !?07:15
Rotwangthe prt-get listinst cdrkit && kill $(pidof /usr/bin/prt-get)07:15
Rotwangis there better way to do it?07:15
tilman# Depends on: cdrkit !?07:15
Rotwangcdrkit cant be installed07:16
Rotwangits for the cdrtools port07:16
tilmanoh, it's the other way around :)07:16
tilmani think i'm suffering from brainrot07:16
Rotwangoh and another question07:17
Rotwangrxvt-unicode need to be rebuild after perl update is it good practice to just bump the release version?07:18
Rotwangor leave it as it is?07:18
Rotwangurxvt is not my port im asking in case I had similar issue in the future07:18
tilmanRotwang: i think i bumped the release version, mostly because the footprint changed07:21
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kane^is there any way i can install crux from within my existing arch install, to another partition?08:22
Rotwangadapt it to your needsh08:23
kane^thanks :)08:23
Rotwangno problemsh08:24
Rotwangshup tilman?08:25
tilmandid you map the s key to 'sh'?08:26
Rotwangno, im imitating shean connery on irc ;f08:26
tilmansean is pronounced with a 'sh' sound, so typing it as shean is stupid08:27
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Rotwang  this one gave me good laughs other day08:28
tilmanyou mean laughsh?08:33
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Rotwangthe biggesht laughsh I ever had08:34
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Rotwangtilman: libdrm needs libpthread-stubs09:32
Rotwangto compile09:32
thrice`yeah, I hit that during my 2.5 build :)09:32
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: tnftp: fixed compilation with glibc 2.810:40
tilmanRotwang1, thrice`: i'll fix that10:41
thrice`phew, epdfview is resurrected.  NOW 2.5 is closer :)10:43
tilmanweren't you a raktpdf fan? :p11:20
thrice`indeed :)11:20
rehabdollnothing commited since 20/3 ! D;11:23
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: libdrm: depends on libpthread-stubs.11:23
rehabdoll18/3 even11:23
tilmanis that supposed to be a date?11:23
tilmanit is11:24
tilmani thought i last touched raktpdf in 2007 ;)11:24
rehabdollnah.. and you even created a tarball for my port :D11:25
tilmanoh, i remember that11:25
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maekelhow's life ?12:09
thrice`minus the rain, good :)12:10
maekelWas surprised to find that CRUX is still alive and seems to be developing12:10
thrice`what made you think it had stopped?12:10
maekelnot much info on the website over last year12:11
maekelmay I ask you couple of quick quesitons before try out the latest release ?12:12
thrice`of course12:12
maekellooking for some simple distro for my small home server12:14
maekelIf I decide I would like to recompile it with specific flags, would it be possible. Something like "build world" or whatever.12:15
thrice`mm, should be possible12:16
thrice`you can set flags globally, and then use prt-get to find all install packages and force a rebuild12:16
maekelwhat would be the benefit of using CRUX then vs something like SourceMage or Lunar /12:17
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maekelhey ! Welcome back12:20
tilmanmaekel: sourcemage people are a bit weird. they probably spent too much time playing pen & paper RPGs :D12:23
tilmanmaekel: seriously though, i've never run sourcemage or lunar linux, so i wouldn't know :p12:24
Rotwang1maekel: lunar sucks, source mage sucks even more, gentoo is a grand champion in sucking, CRUX RULZ!!12:35
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: hal-info: update to 2008102217:23
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: mplayer: fix source url17:26
kane^how do i adapt this so i can install crux from an existing linux install
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: rar: update to 3.8.017:32
Rotwangkane^: hmm, i think everything is clearly explained there17:34
kane^ive installed the packages and setup chroot17:34
kane^so now do i just copy the kernel source from the install cd17:35
kane^and make17:35
Rotwangedit fstab and other config files17:35
kane^i tried to update ports though, and keep getting rsync failed17:36
Rotwangwhats the error?17:36
kane^Updating file list from
kane^rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (104)17:37
kane^but the network is working17:37
Rotwangtry with httpup files17:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: gnutls: update to 2.6.017:44
nipuLkane^: works for me17:45
kane^might be something to do with the network im on17:45
nipuLmight be a bad link somewhere between you and crux17:46
* nipuL is human again17:47
nipuL(aka, finished his coffee)17:47
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prologicyou can install crux over the top of an exisitng linux install ?18:18
rehabdollbut it will leave a huge mess18:22
prologiccan you really install over the top of it18:27
prologicor just build a chroot you can run from ?18:27
rehabdollthats probably a bit more clean18:30
rehabdollif possible on another partition, then just pass the new / to the bootloader18:31
prologicright I see18:31
prologicso you're using the installed boot loader from distro A18:31
prologicbuilding crux into a separate partition18:31
prologicand telling distro A to boot it18:31
prologicwhile leaving distro A mostly in-tract18:31
prologicwhat id you don't have another partition18:32
rehabdollthen a chroot would work just as well18:32
prologicI wonder if it's possible at all to do this18:39
prologicProblem: Given a live running Linux install of distro X, install CRUX (any version) over the top of it cleanly.18:40
rehabdollsure, installing in a chroot would leave no cruft at all18:43
prologicinstalling in a chroot doesn't solve the problem though18:45
rehabdollwell most stuff will be overwritten by crux-files. if its a relative small system without X and loads of libs it probably wont be that hard18:47
rehabdollmy first crux-install was actually a gradual replacement of slackware -> crux packages :)18:47
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prologicI must try it one day18:49
prologicit must be possible18:49
prologicthe only issue I can see, is that the live system may break part-way through18:50
rehabdollthe only thing that really caused problems was glibc.. that forced me to boot from the crux-cd and just force the install of that one package18:50
prologicif you could build a safe chroot in memory and run from that18:50
thrice`I don't think it is possible18:50
prologicperhaps you could do it18:50
prologicone thing I've learned with linux18:51
prologicanything is possible :)18:51
nipuLchoose distro X, create a ramdisk, boot the ramdisk, wipe system files from hdd, install crux, ???, profit18:56
rehabdollall you need is ~18:58
nipuLthis might be of some use,
nipuLit's how i get crux on my slices18:59
prologicbasically I would love to install CRUX and replace my Debian VPS19:04
prologicwith no traces of Debian anywhere :)19:04
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aonomg, linux hater's blog quit19:17
thrice`maybe he finally converted? :)19:41
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RyoSthrice`: TO GENTOO21:00
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* nipuL shakes his fist at nvidia22:43
nipuLlegacy drivers still aren't compatible with new xorg22:44
nipuLi guess i could duck into work a pinch a newer card22:46
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