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| sepen | morning | 01:20 |
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| teK | anyone else *still* getting MD5 errors for openbox? | 01:24 |
| teK | Anyone getting md5 mismatches for gnuplot? | 01:24 |
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| pitillo_ | teK: here on both too | 01:26 |
| sepen | teK, http://crux.morpheus.net/irc/?channel=crux-devel&date=31Oct2008 | 01:37 |
| teK | yeah, I saw taht you told tilman | 01:38 |
| sepen | yep | 01:38 |
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| mdeanda | is the jdk port broken? it seems that .footprint is a bit off | 03:05 |
| mdeanda | it is broken, client/classes.jsa got moved to server/classes.jsa | 03:07 |
| mdeanda | k. i reported the bug. | 03:09 |
| mdeanda | thanks | 03:09 |
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| latitude_ | helo, folks | 03:24 |
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| thrice` | :\ | 07:04 |
| ahmrahtcheer | don't worry: it was a short death. I'm feeling better already. Think i'll go for a walk. | 07:05 |
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| kmandla | Salutations. | 07:07 |
| thrice` | hi :) | 07:11 |
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| mdeanda | i'm trying to install kde, and i notice there is a qt3 package in opt, but another in the kde ports. which do i use, how do i decide? | 11:05 |
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| mdeanda | ahh i think i found instructions in the faq | 11:11 |
| mdeanda | one thing i haven't found is a simple method to download all the source only and not build. or at least so it downloads the source in the background when doing a sysup. there's often a lot of time wasted by not compiling while its downloading the source | 11:15 |
| Rotwang | mdeanda: yes, i think such feature will be introduced in teh future | 11:17 |
| mdeanda | i read a bug report that sometimes building in parallel doesn't work, that's only if i change the working directory setting right? b/c it _seems_ to work fine here | 11:20 |
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| pitillo | mdeanda, a little script with quickdep and pkgmk -do can do the trick to download sources only | 11:50 |
| thrice` | it would be a nice prt-get option, though. keep downloading as packages compile | 11:51 |
| thrice` | iirc, gentoo has something in their portage to do that | 11:51 |
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| mdeanda | thrice`, it would also make it fairly easy to test for broken links. i reported the mplayer url problem a couple weeks ago. | 11:59 |
| mdeanda | i'm off to voting.. and work. bye. | 11:59 |
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| kane^ | how do people start lm_sensors? the init script that comes with it is for init.d based startups rather than bsd style | 12:01 |
| rehabdoll | uh, "sensors" ? | 12:03 |
| rehabdoll | theres no daemon in lm_sensors, right? | 12:04 |
| pitillo | seems so (contrib) | 12:04 |
| kane^ | i didnt think sensors loaded modules and stuff | 12:04 |
| rehabdoll | nah, thats kernel-stuff | 12:04 |
| kane^ | yeah | 12:04 |
| rehabdoll | sensors-detect scans your hardware as i recall | 12:05 |
| kane^ | but the script included is for init.d style startups rather than /etc/rc.d startup scripts | 12:05 |
| rehabdoll | dunno, havent touched anything other than "sensors" in years | 12:05 |
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| kane^ | so im asking how to load the modules at startup | 12:06 |
| rehabdoll | just put it in rc.modules | 12:06 |
| rehabdoll | rc.local works too | 12:06 |
| kane^ | e.g in arch you can run /etc/rc.d/sensors start | 12:06 |
| pitillo | kane^, where is that script? | 12:06 |
| kane^ | what script? | 12:06 |
| pitillo | the script included | 12:07 |
| kane^ | i dont think its in the crux package but its in the source file | 12:07 |
| pitillo | ah ok | 12:07 |
| kane^ | so what would i put in rc.local? | 12:07 |
| kane^ | do i just list the modules? | 12:07 |
| sepen | kane^, in fedora you can run /etc/rc.d/net ?, I think sensors daemon is for DIY | 12:07 |
| Rotwang | kane^: modprobe | 12:08 |
| tilman | kane^: no, put in /sbin/modprobe foobar lines | 12:08 |
| Rotwang | kane^: it executes as normal shell script | 12:08 |
| sepen | kane^, crux is for everyone who need a KISS linux distro | 12:08 |
| Rotwang | and rc.modules are executed as normal shell script too | 12:08 |
| sepen | so add whatever you want | 12:08 |
| kane^ | ah ok | 12:09 |
| kane^ | thanks :) | 12:09 |
| tilman | kane^: candidates for /etc/rc.local is stuff like 'alsactl restore' ;) | 12:11 |
| kane^ | ok, i thought i needed a daemon running for lm_sensors, but i think once the modules are loaded conky just reads the info from /sys/bus...etc... | 12:12 |
| kane^ | but then i found out that the script run at arch boot is the script just to load all modules for the sensors | 12:13 |
| sepen | tilman, Im using rc.local.conf too instead of rc.conf | 12:14 |
| sepen | just the openbsd style | 12:15 |
| sepen | personally I don't like to have a rejmerge file every update for rc.conf | 12:17 |
| sepen | so I overwrite values in my local conf :-) | 12:17 |
| thrice` | tilman: /etc/rc.d/alsa does that, btw :) | 12:25 |
| tilman | i don't trust the alsa maintainer :D | 12:26 |
| thrice` | mm...good point ;) | 12:27 |
| sepen | lol | 12:28 |
| tilman | i probably missed when the rc script was added and/or was too lazy to switch | 12:28 |
| tilman | ;) | 12:28 |
| sepen | tilman, I also have the alsactl call in the .local for my fedora's in product ipbx servers | 12:29 |
| tilman | :) | 12:29 |
| sepen | *.local* rocks | 12:29 |
| kane^ | anyone know why i keep getting couldn't find audio output plugin for type "alsa" at line 95 when trying to run mpd | 12:39 |
| kane^ | sounds working fine otherwise | 12:39 |
| vtorri | what would be the speed perf between a distro like ubuntu and crux ? | 12:41 |
| vtorri | time boot | 12:41 |
| vtorri | faster app | 12:41 |
| vtorri | etc??? | 12:41 |
| vtorri | etc... | 12:41 |
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| sepen | vtorri, what do you think? ubuntu is source oriented? | 12:43 |
| vtorri | i don't think anything | 12:43 |
| vtorri | i'm asking | 12:43 |
| sepen | try crux and you'll know it | 12:43 |
| vtorri | wonderful answer | 12:44 |
| vtorri | thanks for your help | 12:44 |
| sepen | vtorri, mean i686 optimized distro | 12:44 |
| sepen | and just KISS | 12:44 |
| sepen | vtorri, look for rc scripts on crux.nu | 12:45 |
| sepen | vtorri, you can browse all sources from the git web too | 12:45 |
| sepen | vtorri, http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/core.git;a=tree;f=rc;h=3d52874bccb62cf296871052b99277286ff7292b;hb=2.4 | 12:46 |
| sepen | just a KISS distro to learn about unix a lot, at least imho :-) | 12:46 |
| sepen | s/unix/linux | 12:46 |
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| tri | hi | 13:47 |
| tilman | damnit, cruxbot | 13:53 |
| thrice` | lol | 13:54 |
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| tilman | <cruxbot> [core.git/2.5] pkgutils: updated to 5.33.0 ;) | 13:54 |
| sepen | :) | 13:56 |
| kane^ | im trying to do a system update and i keep getting an error with gcc | 14:16 |
| kane^ | configure: error: Building GCC requires GMP 4.1+ and MPFR 2.3.0+. | 14:17 |
| Rotwang | kane^: prt-get search mpfr | 14:18 |
| Rotwang | ;] | 14:18 |
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| kane^ | how come it isnt listed as a dep for gcc then? | 14:21 |
| Rotwang | it is | 14:21 |
| tilman | are you using the 2.5 ports trees? | 14:22 |
| Rotwang | Dependencies: libgmp,libmpfr | 14:22 |
| kane^ | yeah | 14:22 |
| Rotwang | kane^: prt-get sysup wont install "new" dependencies | 14:22 |
| kane^ | oh | 14:22 |
| kane^ | is there a way to do it? | 14:23 |
| kane^ | and what happens about packages that no longer have a valid source url, e.g shadow | 14:26 |
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| kane^ | LOL ive been trying to figure out why mpd isnt working for ages, and i realised id installed it before i installed alsa :P | 15:00 |
| kane^ | doh! | 15:00 |
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| kane^ | is there any time all packages on the system should be rebuilt? | 15:16 |
| rehabdoll | not really, perhaps when modifying the toolchain gcc/glibc/binutils | 15:17 |
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| kane^ | so there wouldnt be any benefit in rebuilding after a gcc update? | 15:18 |
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| latitude_ | kane^: me too :P, just few days ago | 15:37 |
| latitude_ | about mpd | 15:37 |
| kane^ | oh lol | 15:38 |
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| kane^ | i usually use oss4 so i thought it must be a configuration error on my part :P | 15:38 |
| latitude_ | the one more trick is that alsa is muted by default, so I didn't figured it out at first | 15:39 |
| latitude_ | rehabdoll: how about the upcoming 2.5 | 15:39 |
| latitude_ | how can one update by means of recompilation of core? | 15:39 |
| latitude_ | I mean since gcc depends on old glibc and glibc needs gcc to be build, so there must be some well defined sequence to keep all in working state | 15:43 |
| Rotwang | latitude_: i rebuild gcc then glibc then gcc once again | 15:44 |
| Rotwang | rebuilt* | 15:44 |
| latitude_ | so it is new gcc -> new glibc -> new gcc -> the rest new | 15:45 |
| latitude_ | damn I better back up everything xD | 15:45 |
| thrice` | mm, I haven't needed to do rebuilds in a long time | 15:45 |
| Rotwang | latitude_: btw when i was switching from 2.3 to 2.4 Romster pasted here this: http://maxiq.ovh.org/CRUX/dotfiles/rebuild%20toolchain | 15:46 |
| rehabdoll | cool, raw html :> | 15:47 |
| thrice` | lol | 15:47 |
| thrice` | that's pretty ugly :) | 15:47 |
| latitude_ | well, I kinda was playing with CRUX a lot some year or two ago, and even upgraded some way from 1.3 to 2.2 but I don't recall doing such monster rebuilds | 15:48 |
| latitude_ | thanks for the link anyway | 15:48 |
| latitude_ | omg | 15:48 |
| Rotwang | yeah, i was too lazy to cut off html ;] | 15:48 |
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| latitude_ | cat > blah.html :) | 15:49 |
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| kmandla | Howdy. | 18:31 |
| thrice` | hi | 18:31 |
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| nipuL | ever touched a gtx 260 when it's been running for about an hour with a broken fan? | 19:41 |
| nipuL | i don't recommend it | 19:41 |
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