IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2008-11-14

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pitill0good morning01:25
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: sunbird: updated to 0.904:08
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: gnutls: update to 2.6.205:08
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: libexif: update to 0.6.1705:08
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cruxbot[xfce.git/2.4]: xfce4-screenshooter-plugin: updated to 1.3.9.205:25
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nipuL21:26 < thrice`> it's funny that probably 90% of the multi-lib use is probably for flash only05:51
nipuLi call FUD05:51
thrice`:(07:02
thrice`nipuL: do you plan on doing a multi-lib 2.5 release?07:02
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.4]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: updated to 2.5.1.08:23
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fraghi all is there a way to update/create the port local repository10:14
frag?10:14
thrice`sure; /usr/ports/mine  is a good spot for your own ports :)10:16
fragthrice`: no no i mean... how to download the list of installable applications10:17
Rotwang?10:18
Rotwangfrag: could you be more specific?10:18
fragok i have to install something using prt-get10:18
fragwhat i've to do to first?10:18
surrounderports -u10:19
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Rotwangyou type prt-get install prog10:19
cjghi10:19
Rotwanghai10:19
fragcan't access /usr/ports/core ... ... ..10:19
thrice`the ports need to be present; running "ports -u" will populate it10:20
Rotwangfrag: read handbook first10:20
fragok tnx10:20
Rotwangthen ask ;]10:20
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cjggnome ports seems to be a little unmaintained, is it true?10:22
Rotwangcjg: they are maintained10:24
cjgehm to compile gnome i had to update some Pkgfiles because the version of packages were incompatible with the dependencies installed from opt10:25
Rotwangput gnome on top10:26
cjgsome packages are incompatible with gtk 2.14.* for example10:26
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Rotwangcjg: http://crux.nu/Wiki/GnomePorts10:32
Rotwangthe gnome-trunk seems up2date10:32
Rotwangim going to test it myself today or tomorrow10:32
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cjgright10:36
cjgRotwang,  thanks (anche thanks jaeger of course)10:38
Rotwangnp ;]10:38
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mike_ktilman: regarding recent udev: http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=122668104202406&w=2  So, it seems like a bug which is unlikely to be found on a properly setup kernel10:49
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: claws-mail: enchant is used instead of aspell11:04
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tilmanmike_k: i see, i'm glad you figured it out11:12
thrice`mike_k: hehe, I like the "most recent distros"11:12
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thrice`http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/3218611:39
drijenim not using 3.0.411:42
* thrice` votes for removing FF from the 2.5 iso :>11:44
drijeni want to see mozilla pulled11:55
drijenand the libs put in instead11:55
drijenor seamonkey, rather11:56
tilmandamn, i forgot about that crap11:57
tilmanffs11:57
tilmandoes anyone want to send me patches for opt/xulrunner and opt/firefox?11:57
drijenno reason to have ff and seamonkey, when all you need is the libs to build mplayerplug-in11:57
drijenoh fuck, wrong channel11:58
drijenGOOD JOB thrice`11:58
thrice`tilman: hth did you end up with FF anyway?  don't you hate it? :)11:58
joacimive been planning to write an alternative browser to replace firefox on my linux installations, but havent gotten that far yet.. all i have are ideas.. And I do not know how to write software :p11:58
tilmanthrice`: nobody else wanted to touch it, so. :(11:59
drijenjoacim, we have dozens of alternative browsers, and they all suck11:59
joacimthats why i want my own alternative11:59
joacimthat doesnt suck11:59
tilmanjoacim: i wrote a gtk frontend for gtkmozembed once, called hottehue :D11:59
* drijen eye rolls11:59
thrice`tilman: bummer :\12:01
joacimhehe. did it suck? :p12:02
tilmanjoacim: yes. i worked on it for one night ;)12:02
thrice`tilman: wow, first a web browser, and then a pdf-reader eh? :)12:11
tilmanthrice`: you know i'm working on serious software, too, right? :D12:12
thrice`haha, I had assumed :)12:22
thrice`though the pdf-reader is still my favorite :)12:23
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fraghi guys i've a problem... i added to prt-get.conf the line prtdir /usr/ports/contrib and xfce but when i try to search a package in xfce or contrib it returns  "cannot access /usr/ports/xfce|contrib"12:49
thrice`well, you need the contrib and xfce port drivers first12:50
fragdrivers?12:51
thrice`contrib is there by default, as /etc/ports/contrib.rsync.inactive, I think.  move that to /etc/ports/contrib.rsync , and then ports -u contrib12:51
thrice`sorry, sync files12:51
fragthrice`: sorry i didn't understand12:52
fragin /usr/ports i don't have contrib12:53
fragonly xorg opt and core12:53
tilmanrun: mv /etc/ports/contrib.rsync.inactive /etc/ports/contrib.rsync12:53
thrice`you need to enable the xfce and contrib REPO files.  by default, only core, opt, and xorg are available12:53
fragi know12:53
fragi've enabled them in prt-get.conf12:53
fragor is there another file to configure?12:53
thrice`yes, the repo "sync" files must be present in /etc/ports/ too.12:54
fragso i should add to prt-get.conf the line prtdir .../sync ?12:55
thrice`no no, what you did is right12:55
thrice`but you need to sync the actual repos now12:55
thrice`as tilman said, to activate contrib, rum "mv /etc/ports/contrib.rsync.inactive /etc/ports/contrib.rsync"12:56
fragin /etc/ports i have *only* core opt and xorg directories12:57
fragah ok13:01
frag:-D13:01
tilmanthat took a while :P13:01
fragehhehe13:01
tilman:]13:01
fraghidden file13:01
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sepenprologic_, ping13:21
thrice`sepen: see ATI finally released 8.11? :)13:28
sepenI depends on the new gl-select too13:29
sepenxD13:29
sepenbut thanks I'll try at night surely13:29
RyoSsepen: make you sure you dont get crazy with ati XD13:33
sepenehehh13:34
tilmansepen: did you assign #274 to me?o_O13:34
sepenhm=?13:34
sepen1 second please13:35
tilmani guess not :)13:35
tilmani just got a mail from flyspray13:35
tilmanand i don't get why :D13:35
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sepentilman, http://crux.nu/Main/Timeline13:35
sepenI don't modified 27413:36
sepenbut I added some tickets on contrib :)13:36
sepenhmmm13:36
tilmanooh13:36
tilmani got mail because i once replied to that bug13:37
sepenjust I add a comment, not edit values iirc13:37
sepenyep13:37
tilmansepen: n/m :)13:37
sepenxD13:37
sepenjust I hope alan will not be angry :)13:39
sepenlots of tickets the same day, but it should be fine for 2.513:39
sepenwell I should part now13:41
sepenbbl13:41
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sepenati support sucks http://dpaste.com/90853/14:45
sepenhttp://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5183714:46
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markus_I cannot build the xfburn port. I get an error message: "undefined reference to `xfburn_hal_manager_send_volume_changed'"14:49
markus_Is it possible that this port also depends an hal?14:50
sepenhmmm14:50
markus_I haven't hal installed.14:50
sepensec14:50
sepencould you do a paste?14:51
markus_yes, one moment please.14:51
sepenI think is need it too14:51
sepenwell don't worry I'll add as dependency14:53
markus_Crux is not in the channel list of http://paste.lisp.org/14:54
sepenI used to use 'wgetpaste' from contrib collection14:55
sepenxD14:55
markus_http://paste.lisp.org/display/7039614:55
sepenwell is required as optional14:57
sepensee http://svn.xfce.org/svn/goodies/xfburn/trunk/README14:57
sepenOptional, but highly recommended14:57
sepenimho it should be listed as dependency too14:57
markus_If it's optional it should be possible to disable it in ./configure But I do not know if this is a good solution.14:58
sepenI'd like to have hal on a desktop box14:59
sepenand also for a burning app14:59
sepenans seems that for now is not only optional15:00
cruxbot[xfce.git/2.4]: xfburn: fixed 'hal' dependency15:00
sepenplonk15:00
sepenthanks markus_ ;)15:01
markus_What exactly is hal actually doing? I have never noticed it on my old machine where it had been installed.15:01
sepenhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal15:01
sepenprologic_, around?15:06
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sepencool, catalyst 8-11 its running fine here (with kernel 2.6.26.5)15:59
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sepenRotwang, ati 8-11 works fine here :)16:50
Rotwang\o/16:50
sepenI'll upload the path16:51
sepen*patch16:51
Rotwangk16:51
sepenbut I won't push on the gitrepo util new gl-select apperas16:51
sepen*appears16:51
Rotwangdamn intltool16:53
Rotwanglibgweather and few other apps complain i have too old intltool version16:54
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sepenRotwang, http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=35717:00
Rotwangdiff --git a/virtualbox/.footprint b/virtualbox/.footprint 0o17:01
thrice`hehe17:02
sepengit diff > ati.diff17:03
sepenxD17:03
thrice`no no, look at your link, there is a virtualbox reference in there ;)17:03
sepenyep17:03
sepenone errror sorry17:04
sepenupdated now17:04
thrice`nice that ATI works though17:04
sepenyep17:04
sepennow they provide the x740 stuff17:05
sepen(II) ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Build Date: Oct 28 2008 21:22:3317:06
sepen(WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.017:06
sepen(WW) Video driver ABI version of the X server is 4.117:06
sepenhehe17:06
sepenbut still sucks compared to nvidia support imho17:06
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Rotwang1sepen: 8-11 works with kernel 2.6.27 and xorg-sever 1.5 ?17:08
sepennot tested yet17:08
sepenI started testing 2.6.26.x first17:08
sepenwait, I uploaded the patch again to my server box, please read the README file (patch) now17:09
sepenyou must add 'magic sysrq key' in your kernel config17:09
sepenxorg-server 1.5.3-1 and 2.6.26.5 here17:10
sepenI'll try the 2.6.27.x series another day. now its time to play a 3d shooter game17:11
Rotwang1sepen: thanks for your work, will mess with new catalyst tomorrow17:11
sepennp just thrice` remember it17:11
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sepenRotwang, and you should use the gl-select I provided before17:11
Rotwang1k17:12
sepenfor i in true-combat-elite quake2world nexuiz torcs; do $i; done17:13
thrice`:D17:13
joacimboo.. im still using 2.6.25.x17:14
joacimand gentoo17:14
Rotwang1god damn17:14
thrice`:(17:14
sepen... gentoo17:14
Rotwang1i've got bad day17:14
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sepenhttp://mikeux.dyndns.org/~sepen/files/torcs.jpg17:30
sepenxD17:30
Rotwang1nice wallpaper ;]17:32
sepenhehe17:32
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: lirc: Updated version: 0.8.4 -> 0.8.4a17:47
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: twinkle: Fixed dependency name: libzrtpcpp instead of libzrtcpp17:47
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: openoffice-kde-icons: Removed from contrib17:47
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: x11vnc: Updated version: 0.9.4 -> 0.9.517:56
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port19:00
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port19:00
sepenhttp://www.elblogdemaverick.com/uploads/article_img.jpg19:06
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