IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2008-11-15

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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: sqlite3: update to 3.6.503:12
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: mdadm: update to 2.6.7.203:12
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: dnsmasq: update to 2.4603:12
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: libwnck: updated to 2.24.103:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: vte: updated to 0.17.403:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: dropbear: update to 0.5203:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: nvidia: update to 177.8203:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: gtk: updated to 2.14.4.03:13
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: git: updated to 1.6.0.4.03:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: gnutls: update to 2.6.203:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: libexif: update to 0.6.1703:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: sqlite3: update to 3.6.503:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: mdadm: update to 2.6.7.203:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: dnsmasq: update to 2.4603:14
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: Merge branch '2.4' into 2.503:14
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: udev: updated to 131.03:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: pciutils: update to 3.0.303:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: man-pages: update to 3.1203:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: curl: update to 7.19.203:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: Merge branch '2.4' into 2.503:17
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sepenmorning03:25
tilmanmorning03:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: cairo: updated to 1.8.4.03:46
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port04:26
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: cleaned up04:26
sepentilman, cruxbot reports that when use git cherry-pick04:27
sepens/when use/if I use/04:28
sepenits not the common case, but just a curiousity04:28
tilmanwhy would you use cherry-pick with the crux repos? O_O04:34
fraghi everybody04:34
fragi'm a bit in trouble to install xfce04:34
fragadded prtdir in prt-get.conf04:35
fragand made a ports 'u04:35
fragports -u04:35
fragbut when i try to prt-get install xfce04:35
fragit returns that cannot access to ports xfce04:35
fragthe package xfce could not be found04:37
sepenxfce4 maybe?04:49
sepenI suggest you to $ prt-get readme xfce4 before install it04:50
sepentilman, I forgot to branch 2.4 from the origin, so I commited to master and then cherry-pick to 2.4 to solve it04:51
tilmanwhat the fuck04:51
tilmanhttp://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/contrib.git;a=shortlog;h=master04:52
tilmano_O04:52
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sepenpff no idea how revert this changeset04:55
sepentilman, maybe you know a trick for reset the HEAD?04:58
sepen$ cat .git/refs/heads/master04:59
sepenbec575f821caa36c0ec259248e291c82210e099704:59
nipuLlol05:00
sepenit shoulds point when master was created right?05:01
nipuLcan we start using master as the development branch already05:01
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nipuLthat or start breaking fingers05:01
* tilman votes for breaking fingers05:01
sepenI can't see any problem on lost my last changesets and redo it05:02
tilmansepen: i'll fix it later05:03
sepenjust we lost 2 commits atm05:03
tilman:(05:03
sepentilman, sorry05:03
sepenbut why people has commit-to-master access? its a common feature?05:04
sepentilman, thats the correct head -> d5d6fa111bdc11329470de5f304fce25ef0d1c8c05:13
tilmani don't have time for this shit now05:13
sepenok many thanks tilman05:15
sepenbbl05:16
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port05:18
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: pekwm: updated to 0.1.805:18
tilmandoes he keep rewriting that dos2unix commit?05:21
tilmanwhich would break rebase-ability for everyone05:22
aonhttp://giveupandusetables.com/05:26
aonhaha05:26
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port05:26
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: ion3: updated to 3-2008082505:26
tilmani'll just stop caring now05:27
tilmanor rm -rf contrib.git05:27
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port05:29
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: slurm: updated url05:29
sepentilman, ping05:29
sepenRene Lengwinat made a commit05:29
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port05:30
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: sysstat: updated to 8.1.705:30
sepenall this changes will be lost if we wait more05:31
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port05:33
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: x11-fonts-dejavu: updated to 2.2705:33
sepentilman, I should part from home in a half hour, so please help me with this shit05:38
sepenplease05:38
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jornghello all, i am thinking of using crux, is it still active?05:59
Rotwangyes06:00
Rotwangas you can see there is ~43 people in this channel06:01
jornghehe oke06:01
jorngbut i saw the distribution isnt upgraded for a while since dec 200706:02
jorngis it a rolling release system?06:03
Rotwang??06:03
Rotwangdid you see http://crux.nu ?06:04
Rotwangits not roling release06:04
jorngyes i did06:04
jorngoke06:04
Rotwangah its true06:04
Rotwangjorng: 2.5 its going to be released soon06:05
tilmansepen: we can fix that crap tomorrow or monday or whenever06:05
tilmanwhat i really don't understand06:05
jorngthank you Rotwang06:05
Rotwangnp06:05
tilmanwhy the fuck do you people push crap even though i always tell you to run 'git log' before pushign?06:05
sepentilman, please sorry the inconveniences omt06:05
Rotwangs/its/is06:05
jorngRotwang: is it possible to view the packages of 2.4?06:06
sepentilman, I run git log, but I didn't have any branch06:06
Rotwangjorng: core/opt/xorg/contrib/xfce packages are usually up to date06:06
sepenso my problem was not branch 2.4 origin/2.406:06
jornghow about openbox?06:06
tilmanopenbox is in opt06:07
tilmansepen: yes, it's okay06:07
jorngtilman: but is it updated from the last general release?06:07
sepentilman, please excuse me, tomorrow I'll be here about 20:0006:07
tilmansepen: yeeeees, it's okay06:07
sepen:)06:07
tilmanjorng: i believe we have the latest stable version, yes. 3.4.7.306:08
jorngah oke06:08
Rotwangobconf is in contrib btw06:08
sepenbye06:08
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jorngwhen i use 2.4, i can update to 2.5 easily when it comes out?06:08
tilmanyes06:08
jorngoke, one more question, dont know if you guys can answer06:10
jorngwhat is the diffrents between gentoo and crux?06:10
tilmancrux doesn't hold your hand as much as gentoo does06:11
tilmansimpler ports system06:11
tilmansimpler everything06:11
jorngcan i mention prt-get is similair to emergE?06:11
tilmanyes, i guess06:13
tilmani haven't used gentoo myself, so i'm not the best person to talk to :D06:13
jornghehe oke, but thanks06:14
Rotwangjorng: prt-get is a frontend to pkgutils, please dont compare those two distros as they are completely different06:14
tilmanRotwang: that's a great answer, i'll remember that one :D06:14
Rotwang\o/06:14
jorngsorry sorry =)06:14
jorngbut for depedencies it is a good tool i gues06:15
jornginstalling all packages by hand must be very time consuming06:16
tilmanyes, usually you just prt-get06:16
jornghmm oke, put prt-get will install a package from source06:17
jorngis there a tool for deps with the binary packages?06:18
Rotwangbinary packages?06:19
Rotwangthere is something06:19
Rotwangpkg-get iirc06:19
jorngahy oke06:19
jorngbut you guys do a install and right after that use prt-get?06:20
Rotwangbut we dont have binary packages06:20
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Rotwangjorng: well, yes, why not?06:20
jorngsection 4.1 of the handbook is for binary's i thought06:21
Rotwangjorng: you build package via pkgmk and then install it via pkgadd06:22
jorngoke, thank you06:25
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port06:55
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: ion3: updated to 3-20081002 (oops)06:55
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Rotwangdamn, having two des in crux becomes mess08:50
RotwangDE's08:50
Rotwangi think duplicate ports should be kept in one repo08:51
Rotwangie contrib08:52
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fragis there someone?10:51
Rotwangyes, i think so10:52
fraghi Rotwang10:52
Rotwanghi10:52
fragsorry but i think to have followed all written in the handbook10:52
fragand trying to install xfce10:52
fragso added in prt-get.conf the correct port10:53
Rotwang?10:53
fragand typed a  ports -u10:53
Rotwangyou need to add whole repository10:53
fragwhole repository?10:53
Rotwangyes :\10:53
fragwhat do u mean?10:53
Rotwangdl the xfce.rsync file10:53
fragoh10:54
fragand where i'll find it?10:54
Rotwangcrux.nu/portdb10:54
fragoh gosh... so for each stuff i've to install i've to copy the rep in /usr/ports?10:55
Rotwangit depends what you want to do10:55
fragcrux.nu::ports/crux-2.4/xfce/ ok this one10:56
fragi've to add this where?10:56
Rotwangyou add the xfce.rsync to /etc/ports10:57
fragok and inside the rsync file there would be that address10:58
fraghmmm10:58
fragok10:58
fragis that correct?10:59
fragno11:00
frag:)11:00
Rotwang# cd /etc/ports && wget http://crux.nu/portdb/?a=getup&q=xfce && ports -u11:00
fragindeed11:00
fragehehhe11:00
fragsorry11:00
frag!11:00
fragtnx!!11:00
pitill0remember to check prt-get.conf before -u11:01
fragprtdir ...xfce11:01
fragisn't it?11:01
Rotwangsed '/contrib/aprtdir /usr/ports/xfce' /etc/prt-get.conf11:01
Rotwangsed -i*11:01
pitill0frag, http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook2-4#ntoc36 good explanation11:04
Rotwangi must say from /gnome/kde/xfce repos11:05
Rotwangxfce is most reliable imo11:05
fragit updates the collection xfce11:12
fragbut still cannot install11:12
fragno idea...11:12
fragthe package xfce4 could not be found11:12
fragpfff11:12
thrice` /usr/ports/xfce  is in prt-get.conf ?11:12
fragof course11:13
thrice`and you *have* a /usr/ports/xfce ?11:13
fragu mean the dir?11:13
thrice`yes11:13
fragno.... doesn't it create automatically?11:13
thrice`ports -u xfce11:14
fragdone11:14
thrice`prt-get uses /usr/ports/ to install packages11:14
fragthe collection is created but nothing in the xfce dir11:14
thrice`do you have an /etc/ports/xfce.rsync ?11:15
fragyes11:15
fragin usr-ports11:15
fragusr/ports11:15
thrice` xfce.rsync needs to be in /etc/ports11:16
fragit is11:16
fragports -u xfce terminates correctly with finished successfully11:16
thrice`then /usr/ports/xfce/ contains more stuff?11:17
fragjust nothing11:17
fragif i didn't create the dir neither that11:17
pitill0frag, can you check xfce.rsync file contents11:17
fragit's the same from the website11:18
thrice`it needs to have 3 lines11:22
thrice`host=crux.nu11:23
thrice`collection=ports/crux-2.4/xfce/11:23
thrice`destination=/usr/ports/xfce11:23
fragure11:23
fragsure11:23
pitill0cat /etc/ports/xfce.rsync|wgetpaste11:25
Rotwang0o11:25
fragit's exactly the 3 lines11:25
pitill0and the prt-get.conf file is well too?11:27
fragi think so11:27
fragi added prtdir11:27
fragthat's it11:27
Rotwangpitill0: its not prt-gets fault if ports does not fetch xfce tree11:27
pitill0yes11:27
pitill0true11:27
thrice`should be "prtdir   /usr/ports/xfce"11:27
Rotwangfrag: run /etc/ports/drivers/rsync /etc/ports/xfce.rsync11:28
pitill0I dont know, sorry11:28
Rotwangfrag: maybe your net configuration restricst you from rsync?11:29
fragit returns finished successfully11:29
fragi really have no idea....11:30
thrice`no, because he has core and opt OK11:30
Rotwangah yes11:30
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tilmantsk, mount sucks13:08
tilmanmount /lulz/this/device/node/really/doesn't/exist /mnt13:08
tilmanmount: you must specify the filesystem type13:08
thrice`mm, agreed13:22
* tilman considered preparing a patch13:22
thrice`mount_fail_earlier_for_lulz_nodes.patch?13:23
tilmanexactly ;)13:23
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: dos2unix: new port13:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.4]: powertop: initial commit13:50
Rotwangdamn damn13:51
Rotwangmy colouring fetish will kill me some day13:51
mike_kcruxbot: are you buggy?13:54
Rotwangno, baja truck13:55
tilmanmike_k: sepen broke contrib.git with that dos2unix shit :[13:55
tilmanat least i guess we can blame it on that commit ;)13:55
Rotwangtilman: how he did that if I may ask?13:56
Rotwangto avoid such situations in the future13:56
tilmanhe committed to the master branch13:56
Rotwangoh13:56
tilmanand then cherry-picked the commit to the 2.4 branch13:56
mike_ktilman: I've also got "error: failed to push some refs to 'crux:/home/crux/scm/ports/contrib.git'" on the last commit13:56
tilmandamn13:56
tilmanasdf13:56
mike_kI am afraid to ask... should I just do a regular git fetch, chekout, rebase now?13:57
tilmanhang on13:58
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tilmanmike_k: you can do that :)14:00
tilmani just reset the master branch14:01
tilmanlet's see whether cruxbot behaves now14:01
mike_ktilman: thanks14:02
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Rotwangwill you mind oftly if i will merge contrib 2.4 into 2.5?14:22
tilmanoftly?14:23
Rotwangi've heard it somewhere14:23
tilmando you know how to do that merge? ;)14:23
* tilman is a bit paranoid today14:23
thrice`xorg could use a merge too :>14:24
Rotwangtilman: yes i do ;]14:24
Rotwangi merged once!14:24
Rotwangim expert now14:25
Rotwangawfully14:26
Rotwangwould you mind awfully14:26
tilmanRotwang: i wouldn't mind at all, and you don't need to ask for my permission/minding either :)14:28
Rotwangk ;]14:28
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xproto: updated to 7.0.14.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-input-vmmouse: updated to 12.6.1.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-libpciaccess: updated to 0.10.5.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-server: updated to 1.5.3.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-libxaw: updated to 1.0.5.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: updated to 2.5.1.14:29
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: Merge branch '2.4' into 2.514:29
thrice`\o/14:29
tilmanquite some stuff14:30
tilman:o14:30
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aon:DD14:31
tilmanhah!14:31
Rotwang:(14:31
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tilmanRotwang: please remember to merge 2.4 to 2.5 every 10 commits or so :)14:32
Rotwangok14:32
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: acoc: new port, thanks go|dfish14:33
tilmanokay, since you people do it wrong so often:14:33
tilmanin git, the first line of the commit comment is the summary14:33
tilmanafter that, there's an empty line14:33
tilman(optional)14:33
tilmanand after that, you can put more detailed explanation or some other stuff14:34
tilman(optional)14:34
tilman_that_ is the right place for stuff like "thanks to the academy"14:34
tilmannot the summary line ;)14:34
aon#crux: ranted on, thanks tilman14:34
tilman;D14:34
tilmanof course this isn't serious14:34
tilmanbut bonus points if you follow that standard :)14:35
aonor you can even commit with the other person's name as the committer14:35
Rotwangtilman: so i do git commit -m "port: some comment14:35
tilmanyes!14:35
aonso that stuff like that will show up in ohloh etc.14:35
Rotwang>sth more"14:35
Rotwang?14:35
aonso it's easier to grow your vpenis14:35
tilmanhuh14:35
tilmanRotwang: just run "git commit" and enter the blrb in $EDITOR14:35
tilmanie don't use the -m switch14:35
tilman;)14:35
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sa0hi all15:58
Rotwanghi sa015:59
sa0is there a way to reduce font size of gtk applications ?15:59
aonyes15:59
tilmangoogle for gtkrc-2.015:59
sa0talking about menu fontsizes15:59
aoninstalling gtk-chtheme is probably the easiest way15:59
sa0i've tried15:59
tilmanwell, or that15:59
sa0but prehaps i have a syntax pb15:59
sa0can help ?15:59
sa0what to use ?16:00
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sa0gtk-font-size=    ?16:01
sa0gtk-font-name=     ?16:01
thrice`as aon suggested, install gtk-chtheme16:01
tilman<aon> installing gtk-chtheme is probably the easiest way16:01
tilman;p16:01
sa0ok16:01
sa0great thX16:02
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sa0best way to set up a jpg as wallpaper ?16:08
sa0xsetroot won't allow this ...16:09
Rotwangesetroot?16:09
sa0not in ports16:09
tilmani have a port in my repo16:09
tilmancheck the port db (topic)16:09
sa0ok is this the better way ?16:10
Rotwangor try feh16:10
thrice`I use feh to set wallpaper also16:10
sa0k guys16:11
sa0cool16:11
sa02 more questions ... ;o(16:14
sa0sorry16:14
sa0when using prt-get, sometimes, got pb resolving dl.sourceforge.net16:15
treachsee the faq16:15
sa0succeed only with third or fourth ip16:15
sa0can i replace firsts ones16:15
sa0k16:15
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Rotwang1http://maxiq.ovh.org/CRUX/pkgmk_acoc.png16:17
Rotwang1what do you think?16:17
thrice`I like it alot :)16:18
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treachprt-get X-mas edition. :>16:18
sa0second question, about touchpad, i installed synaptics but no wheeling thing ...16:19
treachor rather pkgmk16:19
treachsa0: that would be another two buttons I guess.16:19
sa0???16:20
treachsomething like this -> Option    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"16:20
treachI guess.16:20
sa0have it16:21
sa0tried this and also 4 5 6 716:21
sa0but neither16:21
treachok, I've never played with that on a laptop, but 4 5 works for me..16:23
treachI suppose it differs from case to case16:23
sa0yep16:23
sa0ok thX16:23
treachnp, good luck16:23
sa0how often to use sysup ?16:25
treachwhen you feel like it. :>16:25
sa0:o)16:26
sa0seems a great distro16:26
treachhowever, I'd advice against waiting for too long periods.16:26
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: filezilla: added --disable-manualupdatecheck option16:26
treachsa0: I'd probably say once a week would be reasonable, otherwise things sometimes really pile up.16:27
tilmandamn, forgot about firefox again16:27
treachheh16:27
treachgood 'ol ff.. always a pleasure :>16:28
sa0k16:29
sa0someone here with i915gm video card16:54
sa0how to optimize ?16:54
tilmanopimize what?17:06
sa0x11 display17:12
sa0in fact, for instance, with firefox, when resizing bookmark panel, or browsing menu ... there is some lagging17:12
sa0glxgears gives only 60FPS ... is it valuable ?17:13
Rotwang1sa0: look into xorg logs17:13
sa0doing atm17:14
sa0nothing special17:17
sa0i need to reboot17:17
sa0bbl17:17
sa0thX again all17:17
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