IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2008-12-12

pitill0good morning01:05
aongm01:06
aonhaven't slept at all01:06
aon:D01:06
pitill0it's friday at least, at weekend there's enought time to sleep a bit more :)01:07
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sepenmorning01:14
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giovannihy guys02:16
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: i2c-tools: updated to 3.0.202:18
giovannisorry guys02:19
giovanniI have install Kmess02:19
giovannibut I don't understand how start him02:19
giovanniif I do02:19
giovanniprt-get02:20
giovannicat fsearch02:20
nipuLthis is #crux, not #kde02:21
giovanniok...right02:21
nipuLif yu have a crux specific question, that's fine02:22
giovanniyes when i do02:22
giovannijava -v02:23
giovannishow02:23
nipuLmy pc keeps freezing, grr02:23
giovannicould not create the java virtual machine02:24
giovanniand i hve install jdk jre02:24
nipuLyou only need to install one or the other02:24
nipuLnot both02:24
giovanniyou think that this is problem?02:25
giovanniok I resolved:-)02:29
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giovanniwhy sendmail and identd show me error?02:36
surrounderread the errors and try to do something about them maybe ?02:37
nipuLhave you correctly intefaced the blt drive with the computer plange?02:37
surrounderlol02:38
giovanniwhen start service02:41
giovannicrond identd[ERROR]... ...sendmail[error]02:42
giovanni....02:44
surroundergo and explore /var/log02:45
surroundergiovanni: you sure you're on the right distro ?02:45
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giovanniok02:48
giovannicrux02:48
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pitill0giovanni: not the name, is CRUX the proper distro for you? CRUX is targeted for experienced users02:50
giovanniok guys I understand02:53
giovannibut i want learn this distro02:53
giovannican you help me02:53
giovanniall you02:53
pitill0giovanni: you must start reading carefully and understanding what are you reading. You have lot of resources, handbook and manuals are very good friends to keep them near02:57
pitill0*what you are reading02:58
pitill0time to take a bite here02:58
giovannii have read handbook02:59
giovanninow I reading http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html02:59
giovanniright=?03:01
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: samba: update to 3.2.603:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: samhain: update to 2.5.103:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: [notify] dbus: update to 1.2.603:30
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: [notify] jre: updated to 1.6.0_1103:30
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: [notify] jdk: updated to 1.6.0_1103:30
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: Merge branch '2.4' into 2.503:30
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akintrying to install blender04:48
akintar -C /usr/ports/contrib/fmod/work/src --use-compress-program=gzip -xf /usr/ports/contrib/fmod/fmodapi41606linux.tar.gz04:48
akingzip: stdin: unexpected end of file04:48
surroundershould be a -z option somewhere because it's a .tar.gz I think04:49
surrounder-zxf instead of -xf04:49
akinok thanks04:49
akinhow do I fix that? In the Pkgfile?04:51
surrounderhmm, don't have a crux machine I could access at the moment04:52
akinok04:54
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akinbut why now? odd04:55
akinmike_k, how do I put add the -z in when I try to build "tar -C /usr/ports/contrib/fmod/work/src --use-compress-program=gzip -xf /usr/ports/contrib/fmod/fmodapi41606linux.tar.gz"04:56
akin:)04:56
surrounderhmmm nevermind that05:04
surrounder--use-compress-program=gzip should do the trick05:05
surroundercan you uncompress it manually? or is the file broken?05:05
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akindoesn't work05:09
akinoh well, thanks for the help05:10
surrounderyou can't uncompress it manually ?05:11
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akinno05:15
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akinsurrounder, I know what the problem is, I can't download the source properly.05:41
surrounderaaah check05:41
akinI downloaded the latest one, cp it into the /use/port/dir, changed the version in Pkgfile and did a pkgmk -i05:47
surrounderaaah nice05:47
surrounder:)05:47
akinyep, I can continue installing blender and try out the game yo frankie05:49
akinit looks really good05:50
surrounderah yeah05:50
surrounderread about that game somewhere05:51
surrounderakin: looks great indeed05:51
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akinI love the concept of open source games. I think they wont die out the same way that commercal games usually does.05:55
akindo05:55
surrounderI love the concept of open source in general because of that reason :)05:56
akin:)05:57
sepenthrice`, http://crux.nu/portdb/?a=repo&q=xfce4606:20
sepennow its registered at portdb, just works fine here06:21
akincmake, fmodapi, openal urls are not working. I've fixed it myself, but I guess the Pkgfile needs to be updated.06:44
nipuLakin: you might want to contact the port maintainers06:46
akinok06:53
thrice`nipuL: :)06:57
thrice`er, sepen *06:57
thrice`sepen: I think I will wait 1 more beta before updating :)06:58
sepenxD07:07
thrice`is 4.6 stable for you ?07:08
sepenyep07:08
sepenat least with the crux 2.507:08
thrice`you should have a list of "removed ports" from in the README imo07:12
thrice`rather than "remove all of 4.4," unless you think that is best ?07:14
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spaceninjasource/blender/blenkernel/intern/node.c:30:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory08:42
spaceninjascons: *** [/usr/ports/contrib/blender/work/src/build/linux2/source/blender/blenkernel/intern/node.o] Error 108:42
spaceninjawhat does it mean?08:42
spaceninjaI'm trying to compile blender08:42
spaceninjapython is installed08:43
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-radeonhd: updated to 1.2.4.10:30
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.4]: lsof: updated to 4.8110:43
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giovanniguy if I want install flash.player.tar.gz where I can read12:24
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giovanni..12:28
treachhave you consulted A) google, B) The handbook, C) The man pages for the appropriate package management utilities, (eg pkgadd and prt-get)?12:30
treachalso, would you please stop starting every question with "guys.."? You sound a bit like a broken record.12:31
giovanniok...sorry12:32
thrice`giovanni: prt-get search flash12:56
giovanniok12:58
rehabdollhttp://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/limited-posting-for-the-next-few-days/13:02
treach:p13:10
giovanniafter install flassh13:50
giovanniflash13:50
giovannishow me13:50
thrice`show you what?13:51
giovannithat uxlrunner13:51
thrice`less enter please13:51
giovannifailed install13:51
giovanniok13:51
giovanniand I read that I must update cairo...but request?13:51
giovanniIf i do prt-get update cairo it's wrong?13:52
treachwhy would that be wrong?13:52
giovannibecause If this is associated with another  pack?13:54
treachcrux package management does not care about dependencies.13:54
giovanniok ok perfect thank you...I am learn...:-)13:55
treachnp.13:56
thrice`d'oh, no sepen13:56
thrice`treach: get your lappy revived to run 2.5 yet? :>13:56
treachnot yet, the powerbrick hasn't returned from service yet.13:57
thrice`bummer :(14:00
treachyeah, hopefully I'll get it on monday afternoon.14:01
thrice`or just ditch suse :>14:01
treachthen I just hope the damn thing still powers up..14:01
treachthat would be stupid since they probably do a better job of building and integrating everything than I could do myself.14:04
thrice`I did try it in a VM :)14:05
treachsounds.. heavy. :p14:06
treachkde really needs to run on the metal.14:06
thrice`mm, arguable, but understandbale14:07
treachit's not arguable, unless virtualization has taken a step forward I missed and now gives decent performance on 3d graphics.14:08
thrice`no, my arguement is that it doesn't need to be run at all :)  I found it still quite heavy14:08
treachwell. it's constantly improving, so it's hard to say. it works ok here on a athlon xp 2500 with an ati 9000 pro.14:10
treachit's not a rocket, but useable and that's 4.1.3 iirc.14:10
treach4.2 will be the litmustest afaic.14:11
thrice`yeah; I used 4.1.3 on slackware actually, and the bugs made it too annoying for day-to-day14:13
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treachI'm running 4.2 beta on suse 11.1 rc... :D14:13
treachit's still buggy, but it works ok for me. :)14:13
thrice`wow, so you changed from the lightest, source-based distro to one of the heaviest, most patched, running kde?  sorta funny :>14:15
rehabdollfunny.. or insane :>14:15
treachwell, I was using kde before I picked up crux, and I used it for a while with it too. nothing new that way.14:16
thrice`I didn't want to be rude :>14:16
treachno offence taken. but I find that "bloated" and "heavy" argument a bit funny too, but we've been there before. :)14:17
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thrice`mm, pm-utils is workin *awesome* here :>  so nice to have16:37
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thrice`somehow even increasing the crux boot process even more :)16:39
treach"increase the boot process"? Have you been transfered to marketing?16:43
treach:p16:43
thrice`hey, it *is* almost release time :)16:44
treachmaybe it's because I'm not a native speaker but it doesn't make a lick of sense to me.16:44
thrice`no, it was pretty bad english.  I meant making the boot process even quicker :)16:45
treachah, ok16:45
treachk, I'm out. Take care guys.16:48
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nipuLjust out of curiosity, how mant of have tried vegemite?18:37
prologicI have20:06
prologicI prefer marmite20:06
prologicbetter tasting :)20:06
prologicnipuL, I still haven't been able to find a solution to my problem :/20:06
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ahmrahtcheerrastajames, i have the perfect dog breeds for you:  if you want a big dog (60kg), get a komondor.  if you want a smaller dog (around 15kg) get a Puli22:05
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rastajamesahmrahtcheer: what if i want a cat ?22:10
ahmrahtcheeri don't know of any cat breeds that have dreadlocks :)22:10
ahmrahtcheerand those 2 dog breeds are unique in that respect22:11
rastajamesheh :)22:11
* ahmrahtcheer WANTS a Komondor22:11
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