IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2009-01-26

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sepenmorning01:13
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: xterm: updated to 24001:26
nipuLweee, rebuildding xorg01:57
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: mtools: updated to 4.0.103:09
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: syslinux: updated to 3.7303:09
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nipuLffs, getting lock ups again03:24
nipuLthe only things i haven't tried replacing is the psu03:25
nipuLthat or i have a broken xorg repo03:25
pitiIIowhich card nipuL ?03:27
nipuLnvidia and unichrome03:35
nipuLdifferen motherboards, different ram, different hard drives, different cpus03:35
nipuLgoing for the long shot and disabling hotpluggin in x03:36
nipuL2 minutes without a crash, wow03:36
rehabdollhuh03:42
rehabdolldoes everything die or can you ssh in?03:42
nipuLcan't remember, i'll try next time it crashes, if it does03:43
rehabdollsame kernelversion on all lockups?03:46
nipuLnope03:53
nipuLseems ok for now though, but i'll know within 24hours03:53
nipuLfor the last month or so it hasn't had a longer uptime than that03:54
sepennipuL, are you using the propietary nvidia driver?03:54
sepenor the xorg one?03:54
nipuLnope, using openchrome atm03:54
sepenah ok03:54
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nipuLseems to be a lot of noise about hal related lock ups on google04:47
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cruxbot[xfce.git/2.5]: xfce4-mixer: fixed icon location05:03
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: lcms: take over from sip11:10
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: libmng: take over from sip11:10
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: nano: take over from sip11:10
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: libmpfr: fixed source URL11:27
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cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: hdparm: update to 9.911:31
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jaegerpkginfo: could not read /src/ports/xorg/xorg-libxtrap/xorg-libxtrap#1.0.0-1.pkg.tar.gz: Unknown error 429496729512:21
jaegerwhat the hell is causing this? grrrr12:21
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tilmanjaeger: 4294967295 is -112:24
tilmannot really helpful, just explaining it a bit ;)12:25
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: lftp: updated to 3.7.8.12:56
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jaegertilman: yeah, I've just got no idea what's causing it13:07
jaegerI've seen it on two different machines with completely different hardware. The only things in common are CRUX 2.5 and XFS13:08
tilmanis that the same issue that hit you in december, when you were building crux isos?13:08
jaegernot quite... that time it was reiserfs corruption... ended up with some unremovable files named things like ?????????.????? always question marks13:10
jaegerI switched back to XFS at the time and got around that13:10
jaegerI wonder if relatime could cause it13:11
jaegerhrmm, not using relatime there, so probably not :P13:11
tilmani doubt it, but i'm not really an FS expert ;)13:11
jaegerusing defaults13:11
jaegerAnother odd thing is that stage0 goes fine, it's stage1 where it breaks13:12
jaegerso weird13:24
jaegerone machine is an amd64 x2, the other is an intel core 2 duo. both are running 32-bit crux, though13:25
tilmanif you really care, you could probably build xfs with some debugging helpers or so(?)13:54
tilmanCONFIG_XFS_DEBUG for starters, maybe?13:54
tilmanjaeger: i assume you already checked dmesg for kernel errors?13:55
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treachmmh, maybe get some chickens too. ;)13:56
tilmanoh, right13:57
tilmantreach: btw, the alan cox quote is referenced in lwn's 2008 review13:57
jaegertilman: yeah, nothing there either13:57
jaegerI'll try the debugging when I get home13:57
treachtilman: I guess so, it's quite qoutable. :p13:57
tilmanhttp://lwn.net/Articles/316282/13:57
treach*qouteable* ...13:58
tilmannice wording13:58
tilmanhe "agrrred" to [...]13:58
tilman:D13:58
treachwhere? It says "agreed" here..13:58
tilmanwell yes. lag + laptop keyboard and all that13:59
treachah13:59
tilmantreach: i enjoyed the quotes13:59
treach:D13:59
treachlol @ the second photo. :D14:00
treachlinus really has the devils eyes. :D14:00
tilmansecond as in third?14:00
treachyeah.14:01
treachtoo much scrolling, sorry14:01
tilman;p14:01
tilmanit's really nice that they raised so much money though14:03
tilmanpretty impressive14:03
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DarkNekrosxDD -> http://gawker.com/5130701/microsoft-ad-and-product-advertised-could-both-conceivably-make-you-want-to-kill-your-family14:52
* treach wonders what's really "micro" in microsoft, after looking at the win7 footprint.14:53
DarkNekrosxDD14:54
jesse_rip microsoft 2009, long live macrosoft 2009 - * \o/14:54
treachI mean, ffs, vista is silly, but win7 is beyon redicolus.14:54
treach*beyond*14:55
jaegerat least it's less of a hog than vista so far14:56
jaeger(from my short time messing with it)14:56
jaegerdoesn't thrash the disc 24/714:56
treachmmh, seems to use less ram, but I was refering to the needed amount of diskspace.14:56
treach(ie, stuff that invariably need service packs, updates, patches and what not)14:57
jaegerah14:57
jaegerat least disks are getting cheaper :)14:57
treachsure, but 40GB+ for just the OS.. I have a hard time to find any adequate word for it.14:58
treachI thought vista was "insane", and after that it gets hard to get worse IMO.14:58
jesse_Here's a word: BLOAT.15:00
jesse_Who knew all that fancy shmancy GUI needed so damn much space...15:02
treachmmh, it sure adds up.. I have no idea how much space the latest incarnation of MS-Office takes, but if you're gonna put it, and windows 7 plus, let's say some "light" version of visual studio on your laptop.. be prepaired to bring your NAS in your backpack. X|15:03
jesse_"Let's see, do I delete the porn or do I install this and that to get my work done" Tough decisions.15:14
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treach:p15:32
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: p5-net-dns: 0.64 -> 0.6516:42
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nipuLman this is boring18:16
nipuLcherry picking from core,opt and xorg into my multilib repos18:16
nipuLi'm backlogged to about Dec12 0818:16
nipuLtook me 2 hours to get through core and opt18:17
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: django: no longer depends on setuptools18:33
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