IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2009-03-06

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pitiIIo_good morning01:03
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cptnsepen: interesting, thanks02:04
sepennp, now I'm rebuilding arora too02:05
cptnarora built fine here with qt 4.5.002:05
sepenand works too?02:05
cptnseems so :-)02:06
cptnI only tested a couple of pages though02:06
cptnlike gmail02:06
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cptnsepen: do you have a full buildlog for that qt4 build?02:08
cptnwith the OpenGL missmatch02:08
sepenjust a prt-get depinst qt4 on a fresh chroot installation (safev-env)02:13
cptn"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL"02:14
sepenbut I'm sure that mesa3d is installed02:15
cptnthat should be provided by mesa3d02:15
cptnyeah, it's in your deptree output02:15
sepenmaybe it can't read the .pc file or something02:15
cptnno, this is an actual linker call02:16
cptng++ -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib -o opengl opengl.o    -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib -lGL -lGLU -lXext -lX11 -lm02:16
cptn/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL02:16
sepen$ file /usr/lib/libGL.so02:17
sepen/usr/lib/ broken symbolic link to `'02:17
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sepencptn, seems that its my problem02:17
cptnlooks like it, yes02:17
sepensorry for making noise ;D02:18
cptnno problem :-)02:18
cptnthanks for testing02:18
sepenthank too02:18
cptnflash works in arora btw02:18
cptnalthough I'm not sure whether I like this02:18
sepenrss too?02:18
cptndon't think so02:19
sepenwell I'll try a new qt4 later, so now I need my cpu ;D02:20
sepenit takes a lot of time here02:20
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spaceninjaI love this part from jurassic park :)03:41
spaceninjaomg I need a brake, learning mysql makes you want to commit suicide03:48
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: xulrunner: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: firefox: updated to
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: git: updated to
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: neon: updated to 0.28.409:42
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: tightvnc: updated to 1.3.1009:42
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cruxbot[xfce.git/2.5]: xfce4-xkb-plugin: updated to
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Rotwangflash works in arora, woohoo10:56
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-inputproto: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-libxi: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-randrproto: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-libxrandr: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-input-acecad: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-rendition: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-sisusb: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-voodoo: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf8-input-void: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-input-hyperpen: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-server: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-libxfont: updated to
tilmanmake sure you rebuild your input drivers after updating the server14:26
treachheh, que the line of people caught unaware. :>14:28
jaegerI just assume I always have to rebuild them when xorg-server changes at all, heh14:31
tilmantreach: que?14:34
tilmanjaeger: that's probably even true for minor version bumps. either the video or the input abi gets bumped usually with those i think :D14:34
jaegerthey're quick to rebuild so I don't mind14:34
tilmanit just sucks when you forget to do it, your sysrq key doesn't work and you are too lazy to get up, walk to another box and ssh in to reboot /kill x14:35
treachtilman: ok, queue. Happy? ;)14:36
tilmanthere's an libx11/libxcb release coming up that will  break all x clients :(14:36
tilmanie everything that links to libx11 will have to be rebuilt :(14:37
treachsounds like 2.6 stuff. ;)14:37
tilmantreach: i wasn't sure what you meant :|14:37
treachno problem, I was probably not too sure myself. :p14:38
mike_ktilman: I am sure you will warn the crowd on that libxcb update once more on the ml  =/14:39
tilmanit will be such a pita that we might have to push it along with crux 2.6 ;)14:40
* tilman realises that's what treach meant14:40
tilmanfucking win14:40
tilmanfirst i thought you were referring to the kernel, and i thought 'wtf?' :>14:40
treachhaha, no, no.14:41
treachotoh, the new x stuff coming up *is* kernel related to some extent, from what I've gathered, so I can partly see why you made that connection.14:43
tilmanno, i wasn't thinking about KMS or anything x/kernel related14:44
treachok. just plain old numerical confusion then. :p14:44
tilmandebian fail14:46
tilmantheir stupid unrar-free program just fails14:46
treachhow unexpected. :p14:46
tilmandebian has a lovely slim theme though14:47
treachI luve the way package management tends to crap itself if the system is shut down in an unclean way.14:47
tilmani love how the radeon x driver depends on a bunch of other x video drivers14:47
treachit doesn't afaik, it's just one of those meta packages, iirc14:48
tilmanoh wait14:48
tilmani'm sorry, i confused things14:48
tilmanbut the xserver depends on a couple of _input_ drivers: kbd, mouse, evdev, synaptics, wacom :>14:48
treachmmh, not sure if those really are deps, or just stuff that tags along.14:49
tilmani ran 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-foo-radeon'14:49
treachmaking xorg depend on wacom stuff seems a bit.. zealous.14:49
tilmani'm pretty sure that only installed the hard deps, and not the 'suggested'/'recommended' stuff14:50
treachinteresting.. what happens if you try dpkg -P synaptics or wacom?14:50
treach(my debian installation hosed itself, so I can't try)14:51
tilman xserver-xorg-input-all depends on xserver-xorg-input-wacom.14:51
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tilmanlet me try removing that one14:51
treachthat's just a meta package14:52
tilmancrap, that worked14:52
treachtilman: just be careful with apt-get auto remove if you remove meta packages.. ;)14:52
treachRotwang: you mean I shouldn't have warned him? ;)14:53
tilmantreach: i'm confused... i was really careful not to pull in extra crap14:53
treachdon't worry, apt-get is there to help you with that..14:53
tilmanall i remembered is that apt-get was saner wrt that than aptitude or dselect (does that one still exist? :P)14:54
treachyeah I think so.14:54
tilmanmy first encounter with debian was a little over TEN YEARS ago14:55
tilmani'm growing old :(14:55
treachdon't we all.14:56
treachfeels insane that I've been a cruxer for 8 years or so. my, where does time go?14:57
Rotwangreal veterans, you both ;>14:58
tilmanRotwang: nah, i only started running crux 5.5 years ago ;)14:59
jesse_Wonderful. Another fabulous xorg release \o/15:00
tilmanmike_k: shock! horror! there's stuff in my shoutbox ;D15:00
tilmanwas that sarcasm? :>15:00
treachjesse, sarcasm? Really?15:01
mike_ktilman: I am so afraid, I can't even force myself to push on their faces to listen...15:01
tilmanmike_k: most of the stuff in my list isn't _that_ bad15:01
jesse_Wonder what xorg devs have managed to bugger or forget to add this time around.15:01
tilmanoh man, you're so negative15:02
mike_kthey just look not very friendly15:02
treachI don't like that "zapping" is disabled by default now.15:02
tilmanmike_k: oh, my top 8 are mostly "evil", yes :P15:02
tilmanmike_k: but sentenced and sonata arctica are tolerable :D15:03
treachtilman: he's a _FINN_. They just don't come in positive sorts. :p15:03
* treach takes cover15:04
* jesse_ gets the booze and the mora ready :D15:05
jesse_Positive = cancer. Remember that, kids.15:06
* mike_k dreams he had some willing to modify xchat to include country flags tho the userlist15:06
treachfinns = knives, booze, depression and tango.15:07
jesse_/end sarcasm15:07
jesse_Otherwise a horde of rowdy, completely pissed Finns armed with fists, mora knives and axes will get you. Eventually.15:08
jesse_It's nice how alcohol erodes everything and takes those who've indulged themselves a couple hundred thousand years back in time judging by their behavior.15:10
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treachmeh, all you have to do is play "Satumaa" really loud, then they'll all start dancing. :p15:11
treachbtw, hows "Mononen" as a name for a composer..? He's so oldskool his works are never played in stereo?15:13
tilmano m f g15:13
tilmanthat new samael album kicks ass15:13
sepenhehe, you're so dark15:17
tilmanFUCK ME15:17
treachtilman: probably the wrong audience to direct that at. :)15:18
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treach(ie, slim chance of success :p )15:19
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Rotwangxmms2 issue still not fixed, fsck :<15:23
tilmanwhat issue?15:26
Rotwangits borken like..... forever15:26
tilmanadd another comment to the bug, so rugek gets reminded it's not fixed yet :P15:28
Rotwanggood idea ;>15:29
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tilmansepen: check out that album. es de puta madre \:D/15:33
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sepenhehe, sure15:34
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: virtualbox: updated to 2.1.4-315:43
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thrice`  \o/16:32
thrice`just what tilman needs to drop debian fro crux64 :>16:33
tilmanwhy are cds so fn expensive16:33
tilmano TCG support - No longer requires GCC 3.x16:36
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nipuLyay, noow i can ditch gcc34416:45
nipuLhang on, iirc i picked up qemu16:46
tilmannow we can ditch opt/qemu-bin \o/ :D16:47
nipuLaccording to the prt-get info, i did no such thing16:47
tilmancool, my laptop ran OOM while building this thing16:52
treachdum dum dum dum  --- OOM killer monster16:53
tilmanand it decided to use gcc-3.4 :(16:54
tilmanmaybe it didn't16:55
thrice`that is neat that it was updated.  took a while, though17:05
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: libcddb: 1.3.0 -> 1.3.119:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: libidn: 1.12 -> 1.1319:45
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: libsndfile: 1.0.19pre3 -> 1.0.19, closes FS#42919:45
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: pycairo: update to 1.8.220:45
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: pygobject: update tp 2.16.120:45
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: pygtk: update to 2.14.120:45
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