IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2009-03-07

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dru1dSome problems with new xserver?02:54
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tilmandru1d: ?03:36
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dru1dtilman: After upgrade, i have little problems but i Solved it ;]03:40
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mike_ktilman: xorg's freetype module does not load anymore after an yesterday upgrade. (type1 also was not loading for some time even before that upgrade) And I had to rebuild video drivers (not sure if it was expected).03:47
tilmanthe freetype module is now built-in03:48
tilmanyes, the input and the video abi changed, so you need to rebuild both input and video drivers03:48
mike_kah, nice. and type1 is deprecated or what?03:49
tilmanmmmmmh, i'm not sure03:49
mike_kI guess it was fine some months ago, but it does not load for some time. I am even unsure if I really need that.03:50
mike_ktilman: thanks03:50
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: libarchive: updated to
tilmanmike_k: you probably don't need it03:51
tilmanfonts are usually rendered by the x clients these days, not the server03:51
tilmanthe client will probbably use freetype, which also supports type1 fonts03:51
tilmanmy urxvt still works with core fonts, so things can't be _that_ fucked up :D03:52
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mike_kthat is nice (anyway, fancy fonts is not what i want if I am stuck with the plain x terminal)03:54
tilmanwell, core fonts support might go away in the not so far future03:55
tilmani need to try to make my beloved smooth font work with freetype :D03:55
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Rotwanggod damn xserv every major upgrade breaks something03:59
tilmanrebuild your input and video driver and shut up03:59
Rotwangi did :<04:00
tilmanobviously we need more information to be able to help you out04:02
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cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: libmpfr: update to 2.4.104:03
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: coreutils: update to 7.104:03
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: readline: update to 5.2.1304:03
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: tar: update to 1.2204:03
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sepenyeah, wgetpaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:03
Rotwangno worries, ill handle it04:04
dru1dRotwang: wywal linijki z allowempty04:08
tilmanjust use evdev :P04:08
Rotwangto nie o to ho04:08
Rotwangwszystko sie sypie ;f04:09
dru1daye, i have delete allowemptyinput04:09
dru1drebuild drivers and install evdev04:09
Rotwangati propertiary drivers of course doesnt work ;>04:09
dru1dno im fighting with xfce 4.604:10
sepenRotwang, of couse?04:10
sependru1d, 4.6 is working fine here
Rotwangthey always break when new kernel or xorg server is released, doesn't they?04:11
dru1dsepen: im talking about build it ;]04:11
sepenRotwang, well you can use something like pkg-backup before updating the kernel04:11
sependru1d, prt-get deptree xfce46 works fine too here04:12
dru1dno comment ;]04:12
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sependru1d, no idea what are you doing, but that command works for me in a fresh installation04:13
dru1dsepen: eh, i complicate it to myself ;]04:14
dru1dI dont check xfce ports tree04:14
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sepensure, I provided a new repository called xfce46 before merge those changes into xfce.git04:15
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: setuptools: 0.6c8 -> 0.6c9 (thanks mike_k)05:02
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: lvm2: 2.02.44 -> 2.02.4505:10
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mike_kcptn: 'prt-get sysup' says "cyclic dependencies", how could I narrow that down?05:23
mike_k(This time I knew that yesterday it was fine, and just disabled repos one by one and searched the commit log to find the problem)05:23
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: libcdio: remove dependency libcddb, it's only needed for test program05:39
mike_kthis ^ was the actual problematic port05:40
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untamedI have a mismatch with gegl and I googled into this:, from a few months back.07:28
untamedanybody can tell me what the not-listed dep is?07:29
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untamedI thought display.* hinted at imagemagick but it's not that07:31
untamed...and svg-* is not libsvg :/07:32
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jesse_untamed: run 'prt-get deptree gegl' and see if something is missing.07:53
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latitudehowdy, crux08:04
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latitudeRotwang: you're openoffice port mainainer, aren't you?08:20
latitudei have one with .desktop pieces included08:21
latitudeif you're interested, feel free to grab it08:22
latitudehere: rsync -aqz openoffice08:23
latitudeit also has openoffice binary rather than soffice, but htat is changeable easly08:23
Rotwangk, thanks, i'll look into it later08:25
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* Rotwang has given up on HTML::Parser08:48
Rotwangor gave up? :x08:50
jesse_Both are correct.08:51
jesse_No problem. :p08:54
treachmaybe we can get a "Romster::Parser" too? :p08:59
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jesse_A romster parser hah. :D09:09
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jesse_The universal solution to any and every problem.09:49
pedjatilman: is this anything to worry about?
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tilmanpedja: no idea. i run a stock crux xserver without hal support ;>09:58
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Rotwangabout new xserver, anyone using ati propertiary drivers with new xserver?10:00
jaegernot I10:01
jaegerI have no ATI cards these days10:01
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pedjatilman: does hal support has to be explicitly enabled, or xorg picks it up at configure time?10:06
tilmanthe latter10:08
pedjait might be that xorg automagically finds devices at startup, and I have them enabled in xorg.conf, ergo the conflict ('device file already in use')10:16
pedjaif i comment them out, error should go away, I think10:17
pedjabtw, I should rebuild libdri(ABI mismatch), but I can;t find the port which has it, 'prt-get fsearch libdri' comes up empty10:19
tilmani didn't haev to recompile that10:20
tilmanpedja: are you talking about /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/ that one ships with xorg-server10:20
pedja(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (2)(II) UnloadModule: "dri"10:21
pedjaI guess10:21
tilmanwhich video driver are you using?10:21
pedjathat might be the problem10:21
tilmandoesn't nvidia not use dri?10:21
pedjadri module is autoloaded10:22
pedjai.e by default10:22
pedjais that Kenny-speak for 'wtf' ? :)10:24
tilmanyes, i don't get it10:26
tilmanhow can be incompatible to the server if it was built along with the server10:26
pedja'compiled for 1.5.3' in xorg.log10:27
pedjathat's puzzling10:27
tilmanis /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/ owned by xorg-server?10:28
pedjaone sec10:28
tilmanpkginfo -o /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so10:28
tilmantry building xorg-server once again10:31
tilmanif that fails again, pkgrm xorg-server and rebuild it _again_10:31
tilmanmaybe the first time it picked up the x headers from /usr/include10:31
tilmanseems unlikely though, since it it worked for others and me ;)10:31
pedjai think i now what's moves to libdri_so when nvidia is selected.well, there are both and libdri_so at extensions directory.10:34 is old one(1.5.3) and _so is new one (1.6).10:35
tilmannvidia doesn't seem to provide though10:35
pedjano, afaik10:36
tilmanconsidering that it doesn't use dri, and tehre's no such file in opt/nvidia/.footprint :>10:36
pedjaso, i'll remove old one, and keep new libdri.problem solved, i think :)10:37
tilmanmaybe gl-select should recommend to run 'gl-select use xorg' (or something) before updating xorg-server/mesa10:38
pedjai run 'gl-select use xorg' before updating nvidia.10:40
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pedjaoh, well, you live and learn :)10:41
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Rotwanguis it possible to list any one available port in the portdb on one page?11:32
Rotwangmaybe some search trick?11:32
cptntry searching for '%'11:32
Rotwangcptn: thanks!11:33
tilmanis that a bug or a feature? :>11:33
Rotwangid call it feature ;>11:33
tilmantry searching for 'crap; DELETE FROM moo; :>11:33
cptnit's an SQL wildcard character11:33
Rotwangso i can implement regexp search in mah cli portdb utility \o/11:34
tilmancptn: yeah, i know. just thought that it maybe should be escaped or something. but i guess it doesn't really matter11:38
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: lighttpd: 1.4.21 -> 1.4.2212:05
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: mkvtoolnix: update to 2.5.220:03
nipuLhmm, how many other people have a cli portdb tool?20:07
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nipuLperhaps an re search is something that should be done server side, i can't imagine it being very friendly on the resources dumping the entire db over html each time you do a search20:11
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mike_k_earth rotation sucks. 05:12 here21:12
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