IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2009-05-12

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pitiIIogood morning01:19
DarkNekrosmorning gentlemen ;)01:19
f1yHi there :)01:19
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joacimhmm.. rtorrent have always been mindnumbingly slow on my gentoo and macosx systems, but for some reason it is comfortably fast on my crux system02:06
joacimI want it to be fast all of my systems :/02:06
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: subversion: updated to 1.6.202:14
mrksjoacim: just install crux on all your systems? :P02:21
joacimI need macosx for adium, msoffice and safari ;)02:29
mrkstoo bad ;)02:34
rehabdollyou "need" safari? :)02:35
joacimyeah all the other browsers suck more =)02:36
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nipuLmore like safari sucks less03:24
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.31, ticket #44603:56
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: mod_svn: update to 1.6.204:20
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: db: applied upstream patch #404:25
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: rsync: use failsave download url04:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: psmisc: update to 22.704:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: dhcpcd: update to 5.0.304:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: procps: update to 3.2.804:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: shadow: update to 4.1.404:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.604:26
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: readline: update to 6.004:35
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cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: libgmp: update to 4.3.105:24
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cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: binutils: patch to fix failure on make check05:57
rehabdolljue, gcc also needs the "same" fix as binutils06:27
jueyeah, I know, is on the way06:31
nipuLjaeger: did you use synaptics for the touch pad?06:35
juerehabdoll: actually the patch is from gcc bugzilla06:37
thrice`rehabdoll: I think libdevmapper can be axed from opt64 now :)07:04
thrice`thanks for bumping jue :>07:04
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: gcc:  patch to fix failure on make check07:07
jueit's heavy, building gcc took over an hour here (64 x2, 4400)07:10
thrice`yikes :|07:17
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: transmission: update to 1.6107:18
teKjue: if you need someone for a quick test.. gcc won't take an hour on a 2GB tmpfs with a Quadcore07:18
juethanks, good to know :)07:19
thrice`wow, a hal release.  what's that, a couple years in the making? :>07:32
thrice`but wasn't hal being replaced with other tools ?  I can't keep up :(07:35
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: module-init-tools: update to 3.8, see ticket #43707:41
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cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: kbd: install loadkeys into /usr/bin instead of /bin08:25
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: rc: update to 2.2208:25
jaegernipuL: I didn't, though I imagine it'd work fine. I've never bothered with it on any laptop08:30
thrice`synaptics is pretty easy to set up these days, thankfully08:31
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: subversion-perl: updated to 1.6.210:07
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: subversion-python: updated to 1.6.210:07
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jaegerdoes the ati port work well these days? haven't had to use it in a long time10:54
RyoSthe free drivers are getting better these days10:54
RyoSyou might want to look at them10:54
thrice`yeah, I thought free was the way to go10:54
Rotwangjaeger: it does not10:54
RyoSi am not an ati user right now, cant tell, but different sources told me they are better than the closed fglrx drivers10:55
Rotwangor it does?10:55
Rotwanghowever it doesnt work with my card10:55
jaegerI don't really need any 3d on that machine so it probably doesn't matter if I use the xorg ati driver10:56
Rotwanguse xorg-ati or xorg-radeon10:56
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thrice`I think with new hal, we could probably remove this ugly udev symlink ;)11:26
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: tftp-hpa: taken from jaeger/11:42
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cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xinput: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-suncg14: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-suncg3: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-suncg6: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-suntcx: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-cirrus: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.613:45
treachusers of antiquities and fossils rejoice. :>13:46
* tilman confused $0 and $113:47
treachops. :P13:47
treachsure you don't need a pointy-clicky gui? ;)13:48
thrice`tilman: what's involved with the libcb deal (if i wanted to try it?)13:50
thrice`does anything outside of xorg-* link to it ?13:50
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-video-geode: updated to
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: expat: moved to opt13:56
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: expat: moved from core13:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: dialog: fixed sources13:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: maildrop: update to 2.1.013:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: pear: updated to 1.8.113:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: xterm: updated to 24313:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: subversion: updated to 1.6.213:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.31, ticket #44613:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: mod_svn: update to 1.6.213:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: transmission: update to 1.6113:59
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.613:59
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: xorg-xf86-input-vmmouse: updated to
tilmanthrice`: any app that uses libx11 links to libxlib-xcb unfortunately14:03
thrice`yikes O.o14:04
tilmanmaybe because of libtool braindamage14:04
thrice`so 2.5 -> 2.6 will require massive re-compiling ?14:05
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-geode: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-input-vmmouse: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.614:06
thrice`I guess revdep should be able to catch the items14:09
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jesse_Going from 2.5 to 2.6 might include a number of "it no workie" bug reports regarding xorg. :D15:34
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cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: rc: forgot to update md5sum15:49
Rotwangoh noes15:51
Rotwangwhy not add some colours to rc by the way?15:51
treachConfucius says; "Man who eats beans, farts in technicolor."15:52
jesse_A colorful tirade.15:54
thrice`color??  psh15:54
Rotwangim going to coloUr all the world!!15:55
Rotwanggod damn15:55
jesse_UK / Commonwealth versus the world.15:56
treachwell, "technicolor" is (tm) iirc.15:56
thrice`color is so bloat15:58
jesse_Needs more vowels thrown in there.15:58
RotwangI strongly disagree15:58
treachcolours are fine, but there should be a point to it, IMO. Ie, irc without it wouldn't very nice, but bootspam flying past once a day..?15:59
Rotwangyes they can make boot messgaes more readable16:00
Rotwangand nicer to look at16:01
thrice`it's nice to see where the init system kicks in16:01
teKyou look at your bootmessages?16:01
thrice`you reboot?? ;>16:01
teKafter the 2 seconds from kernel-loading I type in my username and password *g*16:01
thrice`i usually just hibernate, and then it's back in xorg 5 seconds later16:01
treachsounds like windows 7 and rotwang would be a better fit. ;)16:02
Rotwangcolour boot messages are soooooo windows 716:02
Rotwangno one knew them before16:03
treachindeed. and you get one every second hour, post march next year. :P16:03
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thrice`what a retarded service16:24
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joacimwhat is a good way to make sure the lvm is initialized before "that mounter service" tries to mount my fstab-entries?18:10
joacimcurrently I have to login as root and mount my volume manually after each boot18:11
jesse_joacim: look at the patch file in the contrib lvm2 port.18:12
joacimoh. didnt know there was a patch18:14
jesse_I added those lines to the rc files by hand though.18:15
jesse_Luckily it's not a big operation. :p18:15
joacimmy only annoyance now is my keyboard layout issue in xorg18:19
thrice`not bad ;)18:20
joacimcant type characters with accents or æøå18:20
thrice`I can see those :)18:20
joacimbecause of unicode?18:21
jesse_The scandinavian letters showed up fine here as well.18:21
thrice`did you generate the utf locale ?18:21
joacimwell I typed these on my mac18:22
thrice`oh, ok18:23
treachit's äöå, you silly. ;D18:23
joacimthe locales are correctish.18:23
thrice`see, treach has it on crux \o/18:23
joacimand I can type those characters + ä and ö in linux console18:23
treachmaybe your font doesn't have them?18:24
thrice`treach: is your 64-bit stil alive? :)18:25
joacimwouldnt xorg print out blocks or ?'s then?18:25
treachno longer.18:25
joacimill play around a bit more with it after im done playing eve online18:25
thrice`oh no :(18:26
treachthrice`: I needed a whole heap of different applications, and crux just got too much for me to maintain, so it had to go.18:26
treachbut I did have working local chars. ;)18:26
thrice`is that read "kde?" :P18:27
joaciminsensitive clod!18:27
treachthrice`: not per se, but yes, that was part of it.18:28
thrice`yuck :\18:29
thrice`mm, nothing outside of the obvious "kde sucks" troll-ish remarks :)18:31
thrice`ok, I think crux 2.6 will be a re-install :(  this libxcb issue kinda sucks18:32
thrice`  \o/18:35
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nipuLugh, eee is slow when you compile and forgot to set the make flags20:15
joacimgot my keys working20:49
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