IRC Logs for #crux Saturday, 2009-05-16

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spaceninjawhen did icons need cups? :)02:05
spaceninjamaybe it's imagemagick02:05
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spaceninjaI got tango installed, now what?02:14
spaceninjaI logged in and out02:14
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spaceninjaah, imagemagick didn't get installed, that version isn't on their ftp server anymore02:23
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cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: libmpfr: update to 2.4.1 pl503:20
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: libmpfr: update to 2.4.1 pl503:21
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tilmanthrice`: yo, which distros did you find that use the drm headers from libdrm instead?03:36
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: procmail: fix for 'conflicting types' error04:01
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spaceninjahaha, I reinstalled everything, going with openbox instead, DE isn't even neeeded :p06:21
spaceninja2 months with ubunut does wierd stuff with your mind :)06:22
* spaceninja on his gameboy06:27
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thrice`tilman: mm, gentoo, arch, and slackware, i think08:57
thrice`hm, but if that stuff is being maintained by the kernel guys now09:03
thrice`maybe the kernel does make the most sense09:15
thrice`er, glibc / kernel headers09:16
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joacimI cant believe there is no pkgfile for ctetris :S09:33
teKwell zsh can do tetris, too09:34
joacim"Use M-x tetris RET to play tetris."09:36
joacimM is the mod key?09:36
joacimoh never mind09:36
joacimthis is adequate =)09:38
thrice`jaeger: did you mention possibly having an updated 2.5 iso ?  I have a new-install, and thought it might save a bit of time ;)11:06
jaegerI have a broken one, gonna try to fix it today11:07
thrice`ah, ok; no worries :)11:07
thrice`figured I'd check, anyway11:08
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spaceninjaif I get a footprint error at the end, does that mean it recompiles the package all over again, but with the extra -if?11:17
spaceninjawhen I run depinst again on the port11:18
thrice`nope.  you can see why it failed, and use pkgadd on the package11:18
spaceninjaso there should already be a compiled package11:18
spaceninjahaha I'm recompiling the whole thing again11:19
thrice`yep, a footprint mis-match means the package was still created, but looks a little different than expected11:19
spaceninjaok, I'll abort the compilation11:20
spaceninjait's already there and done11:20
spaceninjathat was a bad idea11:21
spaceninjait had already moved on to other packages11:22
thrice`if it looks OK anyway (like, new files were found), i'll just pkgadd /usr/ports/opt/blah/blah#*.tar.gz, and then run the prt-get depinst call again11:22
thrice`if you're doing a sysup, that's probably OK11:22
spaceninjaits alsa-utils11:22
spaceninjait needed some other things aswell11:23
thrice`it probably found python on your system, and caused the mis-match (this is pretty common)11:23
spaceninjaoh, so python spreads its files into other dirs?11:23
spaceninjalike alsa11:24
thrice`no, alsa-utils found python and included support, but the .footprint does not include these extra python files11:24
spaceninjagood to know, thanks11:24
thrice`since python really isn't a dependency, but most systems have python installed11:24
spaceninjabut why do I have to compile my sound card driver as a module so I can run alsaconf and load it from there?11:26
jaegeryou don't HAVE to... I don't even use alsaconf11:26
spaceninjahow do you get the sound working_11:26
jaegerthe old fashioned way :) load the modules, run alsamixer11:27
jaegeror even amixer11:27
spaceninjabut you still have to compile it as a module?11:27
jaegerno, you could build it in if you want to, I imagine11:27
spaceninjaI want a monolithic kernel :p11:28
jaegerthat's fine11:28
spaceninjaok I need to try it someday, but some things wont work11:28
spaceninjalike network and sound11:28
spaceninjaif its built in11:28
jaegerwhy's that?11:28
thrice`they should work fine11:28
thrice`especially on a custom kernel, alsaconf really shouldn't be needed11:29
spaceninjahmm I think I need a kernel day, studying some books11:29
spaceninjaIve never liked alsaconf, now I know why11:30
spaceninjaits not even needed :p11:30
spaceninjahaha the urge for minimalism11:31
spaceninjayeah, everything is almost set up. mpd+ncmpc on mrxvt on openbox with hbr1 ambient radio11:54
spaceninjain which file should I put mpd if I want it to start when I log in?11:57
spaceninjaI can't put it in xinitrc, then it will only be started when I log in X11:58
joacimI had it start with the init scripts12:04
spaceninjaas a rc.d script?12:05
spaceninjaI think I've made one before12:06
thrice`you can start with that, but the mpc stuff probably isn't needed12:08
spaceninja        feels like  this is enough12:14
spaceninjamaybe it needs a port12:16
spaceninjaworking thx12:19
thrice`neat :)12:20
spaceninjayou can make all those settings in mpd.conf12:22
thrice`yep, especially the user, so it doesn't run as root12:23
spaceninjaI lost all my special config files the other day, need to make a new port of allegro sprite editor12:24
spaceninjathe one with those awk things , hahaha12:25
spaceninjaor sed12:25
spaceninja /join #openbox12:28
spaceninjaomg it's empty12:29
thrice`I think openbox is on another network12:29
tilmanoftc iirc12:45
spaceninjaSomeone told me today that xmonad is the best window manager, it looks cool12:51
spaceninjaonly if you got a big screen maybe12:53
spaceninjaoh well, back to some kind of work12:53
jesse_XYZ is da best is purely a subjective opinion.12:55
thrice`i've never liked tiling WM's :(12:56
jesse_They are great if all you use is cli applications.12:57
jesse_It gets hairier with GUI applications though.12:57
spaceninjahehe like gimp12:58
joacimthat would be something compiz-fusion could do13:01
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spaceninjaZoomg, have you seen this app?
spaceninja-Zoomg :)14:22
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rehabdollaon: are you experiencing any background corruption with the new nspr?17:01
rehabdoll displays a buggy background for me17:02
aon"can't reproduce" :)17:02
* thrice` fears updating toolchain yet17:11
rehabdollbah, coward! :)17:14
rehabdolli "upgraded" my server to crux 64bit17:14
tilmancan anyone send me a test mail please? :p17:14
rehabdollit was eventful :)17:14
thrice`sure, to
tilmanends up at the same mbox anyway ;)17:15
thrice`rehabdoll: that's how I updated my crux 32 -> 64 - pretty dodgy :)17:15
tilmanthrice`: saw your message btw. thanks. didn't look at eg the slackware packages yet though :|17:15
rehabdolli had some really wierd dhcp-problems. the net worked just fine until it was time to renew the lease17:16
rehabdollthen only a reboot could bring it up again17:16
rehabdollprobably some kernel-crap17:16
thrice`tilman: I found this thread , but it seems useless17:16
thrice`it seems a few distros use kernel's drm, and others libdrm - not much consistancy17:16
tilmanot sure if you saw it: if you build mesa, it will try to build the mach64 driver, too17:17
tilmanwhich needs the mach64 drm header17:17
tilmanbut because the drm driver hasn't been merged into the mainline kernel yet (i guess), our kernel headers don't include mach64_drm.h17:17
tilman-> mesa build fails17:17
thrice`gentoo has a comment in their kernel-headers ebuild that says "provided by libdrm (for now?)," and removes em17:19
tilmanthrice`: test worked, thanks17:32
thrice`sure :)17:33
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aoni didn't manage to send a test since my own mail is busted :D17:39
VileTimesHey folks. Glad to see the portsdb is functional again.17:40
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RyoSoh shi- my bad, american.. qwerty17:54
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.5]: mkvtoolnix: update to 2.8.021:48
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