IRC Logs for #crux Wednesday, 2009-06-03

bombastohhh00:00
bombasti pm'd ekool00:00
bombasthe was having trouble w/ this irc client00:00
bombast:)00:00
aonoic00:00
bombastyeah00:00
bombastbtw00:01
bombastcrux is AWESOME on my laptop00:01
bombast:)00:01
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bombastwb ekool00:01
bombast:)00:01
ekool:) thx00:01
bombastekool: If it's any testiment, with the updated ISO I was able to setup crux 100% up to date w/ core in about 30 minutes.00:02
bombasttestament.00:02
bombast:P00:02
ekoolbombst: Hrmm. I guess now is as good a time to any as try it, i'm just curious... the size of the ports system didnt seem that large. Ie. there weren't a ton of packages ;(00:02
bombastand that's a really low-end laptop.00:02
bombastekool: contrib is where most of the interest stuff is00:03
bombastand its not enabled by default00:03
ekooldoes it still use the ports system?00:03
bombastyes00:03
bombastit's just a repository00:03
bombasthttp://crux.nu/portdb/00:03
ekoolcool00:03
bombastwe have a TON of repositories00:03
aonthe ports are different from freebsd ports, though00:03
aonbut in a good way, imo :)00:04
bombastya00:04
bombastfreebsd's ports are hard to control a lot of times00:04
ekoolGuess I'll have to play around00:04
bombastekool: if you have any questions, im usually here00:04
bombast:)00:04
ekoolare you part of the dev team?00:04
bombastno00:04
bombast:P00:04
bombasti do work on my own ports though00:04
bombastand i help out when i can00:04
bombast:)00:04
ekoolk00:05
ekoolwhere should i grab the newest iso?00:05
bombasthttp://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/crux/files/updated-crux-iso/crux-2.5-updated.iso00:05
bombastit's an unofficial release ISO00:05
bombastbut00:05
bombasti have zero issues with it00:05
ekoolits on the way ;)00:05
bombasthttp://crux.nu/Main/Handbook2-5#ntoc900:06
bombastThat will guide you 100% through the install process00:06
bombastAs long as you know how to compile a Linux kernel00:06
bombastYou should be fine.00:06
ekoolIt's been years ;)00:07
bombastIt had been for me too when I finally got back on Crux00:07
ekoolI grew up on slackware, then gentoo but i've been using fbsd for 4 years or so00:07
bombastBut it's like riding a bicycle00:07
bombastAh00:07
bombastAs long as you know your hardware00:07
bombastYou'll be fine.00:07
bombastThankfully due to how simple Crux is, anything that's not there by default can easily be slapped into place00:08
bombastekool: What is your desktop of choice?00:09
ekoolbombast: i dont use X or desktops, only shell00:10
bombast:)00:10
bombastMy laptop runs like that.00:10
bombastbut my desktop has a beautiful 22" and I like to use X on it.00:10
ekoolI use mac for my desktop, but I use freebsd for servers I run. No need for X.00:10
bombastahhh00:10
bombastgotcha00:11
bombastwe're on completely opposite ends of that spectrum then hehe00:11
bombastCrux is my desktop OS00:11
bombastDebian for my server(s)00:11
ekoolOne thing I've never understood about debian, redhat, etc.. is that once you install a package, via yum or whatever... once it installs, it doesn't give you any text notice about... Okay, here's the config file, here's how you start it, etc.00:14
ekoolit just expects you to know00:14
aonheh00:15
joacimgentoo have those messages, but for a while they were completely useless because they would fly past the screen when emerge started building the next package00:16
bombastekool: then you'll hate crux too.. we have README's but you have to look at them00:16
bombast:>00:16
joacimdont prt-get tell you which port came with a readme?00:17
bombastif you specify it, yes00:17
ekoolbombast: I don't understand why it can't be like freebsd and upon completion of a port install, give you like 3 lines of text man. That's all I ask.00:17
bombastekool: You technically can get that if you tell prt-get to tell you which ports come w/ README's00:18
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teKnipuL: well, on x86 it did build. If you provide me with 'your' x86_64 ISO, I will try to investigate that01:21
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sepenm0rninG01:25
f1yHi there. Damn, too early for me...01:26
bombasthey guys01:44
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bombasthey Rotwang02:19
Rotwanghai bombast02:24
bombast:)02:26
bombasti need to modify the default mplayer for my X-less laptop02:29
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juemorning02:31
tilmanhi jue :)02:31
bombastjue, tilman02:32
bombast:)02:32
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: jre: update to 1.6.0_1402:33
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: dovecot: update to 1.1.1602:33
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: vsftpd: update to 2.1.202:33
bombastooo02:34
bombastjre update02:34
sepenand now I'm going to update jdk ;D03:39
bombasthehehe03:39
cruxbot[opt.git/2.5]: jdk: updated to 1.6.0_1403:42
bombast<3 gpm04:10
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cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: nfs-utils: update to 1.2.004:32
cruxbot[core.git/2.5]: e2fsprogs: update to 1.41.604:32
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: nfs-utils: update to 1.2.004:32
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: e2fsprogs: update to 1.41.604:32
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.604:32
bombastyay04:33
bombastmore updates04:33
bombast:( i can't find a working links mirror04:34
strawhttp://www.jikos.cz/~mikulas/links//download/04:36
bombaststraw: links is at 2.204:37
bombast:>04:37
strawthat's links204:38
bombastfine04:39
bombasti can't find a links2 mirror04:39
juejoacim: msntp -P no [-r | -a] <ntp-server>04:39
strawbombast: do you just need the source or an actual working URL?04:45
bombasti guess just having the source can work04:45
bombast;)04:45
bombastneed a web browser for my lappy04:45
strawtake w3m then ;)04:48
strawhttp://kuku.sanctioned.de/links2-2.2.tar.gz04:48
bombasthehehehehe thanks :D04:48
bombasti forgot about w3m :>04:49
bombastit does images i think04:49
strawhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/1/17/Screenshot_w3m.png04:50
bombastwoo04:50
aonw3m is pretty nifty05:08
* bombast nod05:08
* straw nods in confirmation05:11
bombast:D05:11
bombasthmm06:15
bombastwell this awkward06:15
bombastim running screen within screen..06:15
bombast:x06:15
teKsometimes i nest screen in screen in screen06:19
bombasthehe06:20
bombastthis laptop is effin' classy06:20
bombastit has a little light at the top so i can sit in the dark06:20
bombast:>06:20
bombastThinkpad, nothing but the best!06:20
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bombasthello acrux|ppc6406:21
acrux|ppc64bombast: hi06:21
bombast:)06:22
bombastim liking not having X for this laptop06:23
sepenpfff, I like to have X on laptops, and my X collection films too06:24
bombastlol06:25
bombastI dunno06:25
bombasteverything is fine without it06:25
sepenlol06:25
bombastUsing a full 20mb of ram06:26
bombastmplayer has a framebuffer driver, btw.06:26
aonhttp://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9927/ostrichvselephant.gif06:54
sepenmplayer -vo ascii06:55
sepenxDD06:55
aonthat way you can watch porn over ssh at work06:57
aonwithout getting caught!06:57
sepenheheh06:57
sepenthat's the point, hehe06:57
rehabdolllol aon07:00
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bombasthttp://j.flippo.net/console.png17:28
bombast:D17:28
RyoSfeels good man!17:29
* bombast plays Chuck Mangione - Feels So Good17:29
RyoS;)17:29
bombast:D17:30
bombastthe charged thing is a script in my PS1 that tells me how much battery life I have17:31
strawWhat does the script check?17:59
strawI guess something in /sys or /proc, but I'm too lazy to search for it atm :P18:00
strawah, okay, /proc/acpi/battery/BAT018:01
nipuLteK18:02
bombaststraw: oops yes18:05
bombastthat's exact what it checks18:05
bombaststraw: http://j.flippo.net/ohnoes.png18:07
bombastit changes colors depending on the charge level18:07
strawI guess it takes "remaining capacity from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT*/state and "last full capacity" from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT*/info to compute the current %, eh?18:09
bombastmhmm18:09
strawor just gimme the script ;p18:09
bombastsure thing18:09
bombastill put it up with my bashrc18:09
bombasthm18:10
bombaststraw:18:10
bombastdo you have xulrunner installed?18:10
strawnot yet :>18:11
bombastah, dang.18:11
strawhmm, I lied, I have18:11
bombastwoo!18:11
bombastdo me a favor18:11
bombastdu -sh /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.10/xulrunner18:11
strawthat's just a script here18:12
bombastoh snap18:12
bombastyou're right18:12
bombastah!18:13
straw$ du -sh xulrunner-bin18:13
straw32Kxulrunner-bin18:13
bombastdo libxul.so18:13
bombast:>.18:13
straw12M18:13
bombastweird18:13
bombastmine should be smaller..18:13
bombastI recompiled it with -Os18:13
straw:\18:15
bombastoh well18:16
bombastnot a big deal18:16
bombastit was just a test18:16
tilmanwatcom's compiler sucked ass in 9618:16
straw:-)18:16
bombastlol18:16
bombast;P18:16
strawtilman: What are you doing, if I may ask? Is openwatcom an option?18:18
tilmannot sure i want to tell :D18:18
tilmanmight hurt my reputation :D18:19
strawoh.. now I'm even more curious.. ;)18:19
tilmanclue: http://code-monkey.de/articles/2008/12/12/a-decoder-for-archimedean-dynastys-mvi-files18:20
strawoha, REing MVI :P18:21
tilmanno, i did that in february 200818:21
strawah18:22
* straw just reads the WP article about MVI18:22
tilmanthat's a different format ;D18:23
strawaaah, now I remember18:26
strawhttp://www.mobygames.com/game/archimedean-dynasty18:26
strawlike Aquanox, only DOS18:26
tilmanaquanox was AD's successor18:27
strawoh, I see18:27
strawso.. what's the masterplan? AD remake? :>18:28
tilmanyeah. unlikely to happen though18:29
strawIt would be awesome though ;)18:29
tilmanindeed18:30
tilman:D18:30
strawit would be the old Wing Commander atmosphere.. only under water18:30
straw:>18:30
strawwhen my skills improve, I'll try to make an open-source remake of X-Com 2: http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/60/X-Com+2+-+Terror+From+The+Deep.html18:38
strawI loved that one18:38
strawand I guess it's easier to program than a 3D shooter18:38
tilmanalready done i think18:39
tilmanufoai18:39
tilmani think i have a port in my repo18:39
strawOh, wow!18:40
strawI really didn't know18:40
tilmanthe tactics part is based on the quake2 engine btw18:41
strawThanks for the hint, I'm totally exited atm :>18:43
tilman:D18:44
nipuLhttp://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25584945-10229,00.html18:44
tilmanstraw: my port is probably outdated though...18:44
bombasttilman: You should fix that then!18:45
bombast;)18:45
tilmanbusy18:45
bombasthehe18:45
tilmanbed time soon, too18:45
bombast;)18:45
rehabdollhaha nipul18:58
rehabdollawesome18:58
bombast"Why go through all the trouble, when they're only gonna die anyways?"19:01
bombastlmfao19:01
nipuLit seems the concept of black humour is lost on people these days19:23
bombastsadly19:23
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bombastgah21:02
bombastthat dolan guy better come back sometiem or im cracking skulls21:02
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dbboltonwhere can i download the i586 iso? in all the mirrors, i only see crux-2.5.iso which i assume is the normal i68621:11
dbboltonoops. i guess it's in the contrib directory rather than iso21:12
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bombastoops21:23
bombasti didn't mean to ignore him21:23
bombast:P21:23
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: Revert non-working libcap headers fix22:33
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