IRC Logs for #crux Sunday, 2009-06-21

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tilmanbombast: no, i'm not sure. i didn't write that pkgfile04:16
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.5]: mesa3d: updated to
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tilmanhooray, got picard working with libofa \o/05:51
tilmantoo bad libofa isn't really maintained and needs a dozen patches to work05:51
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pedjawhen a process is marked with T in htop(traced?), what does it mean, exactly?09:14
pedjaff-rc2 got stuck in that state09:15
tilmanwhat's the name of that column?09:15
tilmanmy first guess was that a debugger was attached09:16
tilmanbut i don't think you're debugging firefox, are you? :D09:16
tilman(debuggers use ptrace() to do their thing, so..)09:16
pedjano :) it is an S column, that's state, I guess.09:17
tilmani just attached gdb to some process, and that process' status changed to T09:18
tilman             'T' = traced or stopped09:19
tilmanaccording to the top manpage09:19
tilmanmakes sense: when i hit 'c' in gdb it changed back to R (running)09:19
pedjaI tried to attach gdb to one of the processes, and I get ptrace:operation not permitted.09:20
tilmanmaybe state changes to T if its in a sleep() call09:20
pedjatime for SIGKILL09:20
tilmanmmh, no09:20
pedjaone process is in S state, all others in T.09:22
pedjait might be Flash related.09:24
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tilmannp: vnv nation - art of conflict \o/09:29
pedjathat's where it got stuck09:30
pedjawhen I tried to switch to fullscreen09:30
bombasti couldn't sit through the first one, pedja09:31
bombasti turned it off half-way in09:31
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pedjathe movie, or the trailer :) ?09:34
bombastthe first movie09:35
bombastit was so boring09:35
pedjayes, way too much Shia but way little of Megan/robots/that australian chick :)09:36
* tilman can hardly remember that movie09:37
pedjaIronman was awesome, though.09:37
bombastMegan Fox isn't Australian, pedja09:37
thrice`i remember finding it pretty boring too.  lots of people liked it though09:37
tilmani remember it was retarded though09:37
bombasttilman: lol09:37
pedjabombast: the other chick, the 'smart' one ;)09:38
bombasti thought she was british09:39
bombastbut yeah, she was cute09:39
bombastoh wow she's from Tasmania09:39
pedjaanyway, if you switch that trailer to fullscreen, does FF hang, or it works?09:41
pedjayou use 3.5rc2, right?compiled from source?09:42
bombastYou mean like F11?09:43
bombastlet me check09:43
bombastyeah it totally hangs on rc209:43
pedjathanks.sorry :)09:44
bombastits cool09:45
pedjathis looks awesome
pedjaNazi zombies ftw!10:00
pedjabut, this is not #zombie, and I'll stfu :)10:01
joacimI didnt like it :/10:18
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-intel: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: mesa3d: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-newport: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-glproto: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xkeyboard-config: updated to 1.6.10:31
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-dri2proto: updated to 2.1.10:31
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-video-vmware: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-inputproto: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-util-macros: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: mesa3d: updated to
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: Merge branch '2.5' into 2.610:31
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xcb-proto: updated to 1.5.10:31
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-libxcb: updated to 1.3.10:31
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xcb-util: updated to
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bombastwhat's a safe way to dispose of hard drives?11:05
tilmanman shred11:06
bombastbut i kinda meant physically11:07
bombastdo magnets work?11:07
tilmanafter you ran shred, you can do whatever ;)11:07
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thrice`hi sepen15:16
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jkramerHas anyone ever installed CRUX on a VIA Eden system?15:30
thrice`hm, never even heard of it :)15:35
jaegerI have not but no reason it shouldn't work, I'd think15:37
jaegerif you have one of the older ones with fake 686 support use the 586 contributed iso15:37
jkramerHmm, I can't find accurate infos but it looks like its i58515:38
jkramerEh, 58615:38
jkramerIt's gonna be a Eden ULV 50015:38
jkramerI'll just give it a try :)15:39
jaegergood luck :)15:40
jkramerIt can't damage the system, can it? :D15:40
jaegerOnly as likely to as any other linux15:42
jaegerso most likely no way15:42
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bombastnipuL: Why doesn't hal-info have any dependencies listed?16:42
grobelerbombast, perhaps it doesnt have any dependencies ?16:49
bombastwell considering the name16:49
bombastit needs hal16:50
jaegeryou'd think so but I think that's the one that's reverse of what you'd expect16:56
jaegerhal needs hal-info, not the opposite16:56
Rotwangyeah [;16:56
bombasti guess im a dickhead then..16:57
joacimand I thinks of fellatio16:59
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jkramerHas anyone ever tried to bargain with an online shop? :)17:18
RyoS_yeah, works fine *bling bling* XD17:20
jkramerIt's worth a try I guess17:27
bombastyou guys are dirty17:28
jkramerI'm just ordering a bunch of hardware, and I just don't want to pay the full price :)17:29
bombastwho does17:29
jkramerI checked out the lowest prices for all pieces in a lot of different shops, now I'm asking the shops to sell me everything for the lowest price I found :)17:31
jkramerI could order it in the different shops, but then I would pay a lot more shipment fee17:32
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jkramerShould I take a 500MHz VIA Board which eats 1W or 1GHz with active fan which eats 3.5W and remove the fan?17:35
bombastno idea :)17:36
jkramerIt's going to be a streaming/storage server, so I guess it'll idle most of the time, but still I'm a bit afraid it could get too hot17:37
jkramerAnd it's going to run 24/7, so maybe 1W is better than 3.5 :)17:38
jkramerOn the other hand, I think 500MHz could be too slow sometimes :(17:38
RyoS_jkramer: what about some nifty intel atom server?17:40
jkramerIs there a nice Pico-ITX board with an atom?17:41
jkramerHmm, looks like there are a few available, but they're preview versions or something and there's no guarantee17:44
jkramerSounds nice, though17:45
jkramerBut no matching cases17:45
jkramerOh sweet17:47
jkramerPico ITX with 1,6 GHz, fanless17:48
jkramerMini, not pico :(17:53
jkramerWhatever, gotta sleep. See you17:54
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SunlightRiderExcuse me, anybody around?23:23
SunlightRiderHey jaeger , Good Night23:24
SunlightRiderI have one simple question, what-s the procedure for removing a pkg and it's dependencies23:24
jaegerremoval of the package is easy, either pkgrm or prt-get remove23:25
jaegerbut removal of dependencies automagically isn't done for you23:25
grobelerprt-get removve `prt-get quickdep foo`23:25
SunlightRiderhaven't tried to pipe much of prt-get options, but i dont know my way around awk, to remove the package and its, dependencies23:25
grobelerthe dangerous way to do it :)23:25
jaegerif you do what grobeler suggests, it'll work, though you risk removing packages you want to keep23:25
jaegeryou can always review the deps list and then do that if you're sure23:26
SunlightRiderso, there's no safe way then23:26
jaegerotherwise you might take a look at prtorphan23:26
jaegerwhich is in the prt-utils package23:26
SunlightRiderok, I'll check those options and , in case of despair, I'll come back23:27
SunlightRiderthank you23:27
jaegerok :)23:30

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