IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2010-05-13

pitillogood morning01:07
luxhmorning01:34
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: p5-netaddr-ip: 4.027 -> 4.02805:44
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Rotwanghi09:02
Rotwangfrinnst: does shiva plug has vga output?09:03
Rotwangor anyone that is familiar w/ shiva plug09:03
pitilloRotwang: check specs in the official webpage, good info there09:05
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Rotwangcant find teh specs :C09:40
Rotwangit seems thereis no vga for sheeva :c09:45
tilmandon't think so either09:47
tilmanbut apparently they plan to do a guruplug with HDMI09:48
jaegercool09:48
Rotwangnice09:50
Rotwangim looking for a cheap "terminal" passive cooling09:50
Rotwangto be able to launch firefox09:50
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-server: updated to 1.8.1.09:56
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-xf86-input-evdev: updated to 2.4.0.09:56
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.6]: xorg-libpixman: updated to 0.18.2.09:56
thrice`\o\09:56
pitilloRotwang: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-sheevaplugdetails.aspx#features ... I think there are specs overthere (for sheeva and guru)09:58
Rotwangthx09:58
Rotwangbrb09:58
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pitilloand yes, there are some info at forums about a new update for guruplug 3.0 (may be near December)09:59
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thrice`I think the libpng + jpeg updates are going to be ugly for 2.6 -> 2.710:06
thrice`I guess it's nearly unavoidable, though.  wonder if .la files will cause more grief10:08
j^2what's up yall?10:26
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frinnstsysup :)10:45
tadzikhm?10:46
tadzikam I missing some awesome updates? :>10:46
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: udev: updated to 154.10:47
tadzikho, still coming :)10:47
tilmannew x server is pretty awesome10:48
tadzikwhat's new?10:50
tadzikDid they finally kicked hal's ass?10:50
tilmanudev-based input hotplug10:50
tadzikyay!10:50
tadzikoh, is the new udev working with firmware finally?10:51
tilmanyes10:51
tadzikalright10:51
tadzikoh, someone was asking about Perl 5.12 issues10:51
teK_I heard some brave CRUXers reported bugs :>10:51
tadzikspamassassin does not really like 5.1210:52
tadzikhttp://wklej.org/id/333175/10:52
teK_du'h10:53
tadzikand that's the only one I found10:53
teK_perl 5.12 does not really like SA ;)10:53
tadzikI guess I'll just stick to system wide 5.10 and have my 5.12 Perlbrew'ed10:53
tadzikyeah, it's rather this way around :)10:53
tadzikI wonder if removing some 'use strict' in sa-update would do10:53
Zabadefined on hashes and arrays has been deprecated for a while10:53
teK_I can contact upstream about any patches/updates wrt perl 5.12 :)10:54
Zabayou could just remove the 'defined' and it would have the same effect10:54
Zaba..well, unless it's not a simple conditional.10:54
Zabaand even then, I think it's the same...10:55
teK_best solution still is a vendor-side update.10:55
tadzikalright guys, restarting X :)10:56
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tadzikbeen there, done that :)11:04
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tadzikstill hotplugging does not seem to work11:05
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juehello11:07
j^2:)11:07
tadziksome keysyms have changed11:07
tadzikhey :)11:07
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: whois: update to 5.0.411:11
thrice`tadzik, killed your xorg.conf ?11:11
tadzikthrice`: did not change it11:12
tadzikshould I?11:12
thrice`depends :>  which video card?11:13
tadzikintel11:13
thrice`I would, it'll read /usr/share/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf  for keyboard + mouse11:13
tadzikbut I had a section for /dev/input/mouse2, maybe it was confusing it11:13
thrice`(or move it temporarily).  you should then see config/udev  stuff in your Xorg.0.log11:14
teK_ /usr/share/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf <- configuration files under /usr/share/*? Oh dear. That's even worse than /usr/etc/* :x11:14
thrice`teK_, that's where the system-default stuff goes; 'user/admin' goes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/  still11:15
thrice`and /usr/etc/ rockzz :p11:16
tilman /etc implies that people may want to edit it11:16
tilmanthe stuff in /usr/share/xorg.conf.d is read-only11:16
teK_if you like having to remember if stuff is in /etc OR /usr/etc + switching/lsing directories before getting things done: shure.11:16
thrice`lol11:17
thrice`my response was 1/2 sarcastic :)11:17
* teK_ notices that gimp, which he maintains uses /usr/etc, too. 11:19
* thrice` files 2 bugs + 3 emails11:20
teK_kthxbye11:20
jueteK_: I'd file a bug-report if you move the gimp configs to /etc ;)11:24
teK_I still dislike this.11:26
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jueyeah, I know, but that's our current package guideline11:29
teK_so I will obey :-)11:30
jue:)11:30
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sepenhi11:55
teK_hello my spanish friend ;-)11:57
thrice`hi sepen !11:57
sepenhey guys11:57
thrice`how's it going? :)11:57
sepenI finished to port scrotwm + dmenu to crux-arm ;D11:57
teK_:}11:57
sepenjue, http://crux-arm.nu/files/screenshots/j72x_scrotwm_mrxvt_dillo.png11:58
sepenI never used xmonad or scrotwm before, but seems easy and powerful11:58
thrice`:O11:58
thrice`scrotwm looks nice11:59
teK_xmonad is implemented in Haskell which is evil.11:59
sepenI'll add this screenshot to this page http://crux-arm.nu/doc/?devices/j72x11:59
sepenhaskell? lol11:59
teK_doom? <312:00
sepenprboom12:00
teK_yeah as I said. doom.12:00
teK_:P12:00
sepenyep12:00
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thrice`i've never tried a tiling WM yet, but using openbox, dmenu, and tint2 now :D12:05
sepentint2 rocks12:05
luxhdwm is nice12:05
thrice`sepen, yes, nice that you added it to contrib :P12:05
sepennow I switched to wbar just for doing some tests12:09
entehi12:21
entefor x in *; do grep -RFq "$x" ~/t/session || rm -r "$x"; done12:26
ente<312:26
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thrice`http://i.imgur.com/EFOH6.jpg   :D12:37
jaegerhah, nice12:43
teK_LOL12:43
juesepen: nice12:43
tilmanhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1 o_O13:00
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