| linopolus | How does prt-get resolve the dependencies? | 00:03 |
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| linopolus | Is it possible to set version to LATEST or similar things for devel packages? | 00:25 |
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| pitillo | good morning | 01:02 |
| linopolus | moin pitillo | 01:03 |
| pitillo | :) | 01:03 |
| prologic | tilman, I hit no major problem at all actually | 01:13 |
| prologic | I just lost the damn work :/ | 01:13 |
| prologic | and I can't get virtualbox compiled :( | 01:13 |
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| linopolus | How do I generate the .footprint? | 01:26 |
| frinnst | its automagically created if its missing | 01:29 |
| frinnst | you can update it with pkgmk -uf | 01:29 |
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| linopolus | ok | 01:45 |
| linopolus | Does anyone have a chromium port/package ? | 01:53 |
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| jue | mornig | 03:06 |
| cruxbot | [opt.git/2.6]: imagemagick: update to 6.6.1-10 | 03:07 |
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| linopolus | http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=594# | 06:01 |
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| tilman | you set LANG? in CRUX? a system that says has no NLS support? | 06:03 |
| tilman | :> | 06:03 |
| linopolus | set it to en_US.utf8 ^^ | 06:03 |
| linopolus | so it's en, if set or not | 06:03 |
| tilman | i think setting LC_CTYPE will suffice | 06:04 |
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| Rotwang | http://imagechan.com/img/8885/Money-well-spent./ | 08:57 |
| tadzik | ;) | 09:01 |
| luxh | :D | 09:11 |
| ente | :-) | 09:14 |
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| linopolus | http://paste.xssn.at/ak I have a problem. imlib2 doesn't want to build :( | 09:46 |
| thrice` | do you have xorg installed yet? looks like a missing header | 09:47 |
| linopolus | yes xorg is installed | 09:48 |
| thrice` | i'm at work, and not on CRUX currently, but looks like a missing dep possibly; does 'prt-get fsearch shape.h' return anything ? | 09:48 |
| Rotwang | Found in /usr/ports/xorg/xorg-libxcb: | 09:49 |
| Rotwang | Found in /usr/ports/xorg/xorg-libxext: | 09:49 |
| linopolus | both xorg related matches are installed according to isinst | 09:51 |
| Rotwang | linopolus: show us the logs | 09:51 |
| thrice` | they are above ;) | 09:52 |
| linopolus | hm must shut down: thunderstorm… | 09:53 |
| Rotwang | ;D | 09:53 |
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| Rotwang | http://staten-island-new-york-real-estate.com/Uncommon_Visitors.html | 10:15 |
| Rotwang | ;x | 10:15 |
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| linopolus | re | 10:19 |
| linopolus | suggestions? | 10:20 |
| Rotwang | make sure there is | 10:21 |
| Rotwang | /usr/include/X11/extensions/shape.h | 10:22 |
| Rotwang | does it exist? | 10:22 |
| Rotwang | linopolus: ^ | 10:22 |
| linopolus | no | 10:22 |
| linopolus | so rebuild? | 10:23 |
| Rotwang | that means something is not installed [; | 10:23 |
| Rotwang | make sure xorg-libxext | 10:23 |
| Rotwang | is installed | 10:23 |
| thrice` | and up-to-date. some headers might have changed packages | 10:24 |
| thrice` | prt-get diff is your friend there :) | 10:24 |
| linopolus | I'm rebuilding it :) | 10:24 |
| linopolus | didn't make a complete prt-get sysup til now. tonight it will be. don't want to rebuild gcc while using the PC :D | 10:25 |
| linopolus | seems to work now | 10:26 |
| thrice` | you can also 'prt-get lock gcc' for awhile ;) | 10:29 |
| thrice` | I think I still have it locked for the 4.4.4 update | 10:29 |
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| linopolus | thats also a possibility… | 10:30 |
| linopolus | huh | 10:31 |
| linopolus | imlib2 built | 10:31 |
| linopolus | but now tint2 don't wants :D | 10:31 |
| linopolus | xinerama | 10:31 |
| linopolus | I think I'll sysup first | 10:31 |
| linopolus | how can I see what needs to be updated? | 10:32 |
| linopolus | ports -d? | 10:32 |
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| linopolus | 2.7 needs to come :D such a huge amount of updates since 2.6… | 10:34 |
| thrice` | :) jaeger makes some updated isos on occassion, too | 10:34 |
| linopolus | k | 10:35 |
| thrice` | usually a new release revolves around a toolchain update, eg gcc 4.5 is now out, so it's about time :) | 10:35 |
| cruxbot | [contrib.git/2.6]: asterisk: Workaround for bug in which asterisk doesn't change startup dir. | 10:39 |
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| Rotwang | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY&feature=player_embedded | 12:09 |
| Rotwang | I lold | 12:09 |
| prologic | seen that | 12:49 |
| prologic | it's funny :) | 12:49 |
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| linopolus | prt-get: updating /usr/ports/xorg/xorg-libxxf86dga | 13:32 |
| linopolus | =======> ERROR: Md5sum mismatch found: | 13:32 |
| linopolus | MISSING 368837d3d7a4d3b4f70be48383e3544e libXxf86dga-1.1.1.tar.bz2 | 13:32 |
| linopolus | NEW 73a3e2ba15433f79a6badf85223786f4 libXxf86dga-1.1.1.tar.bz2 | 13:32 |
| linopolus | maybe the maintainer had something ddone wrong? | 13:32 |
| tadzik | maybe wget have done something wrong? | 13:33 |
| thrice` | or they changed tarballs secretly :( | 13:33 |
| linopolus | hm thats possible, too :D | 13:33 |
| linopolus | I'll download it again :D | 13:33 |
| ente | or your distfiles mirror did? | 13:33 |
| thrice` | you can try to -im to see if it builds, or re-download | 13:33 |
| thrice` | linopolus, you seem to be catching on pretty quick :) | 13:34 |
| linopolus | ^^ | 13:35 |
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| linopolus | thrice`: ok you was right… :) | 13:45 |
| thrice` | corrupt download, or new tarball? | 13:50 |
| linopolus | no idea :) | 13:51 |
| linopolus | ah | 13:51 |
| linopolus | corrupt download | 13:51 |
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| ente | tilman: Dejavu still looks different | 14:04 |
| ente | now I finally have a screenshot since X works again | 14:05 |
| ente | http://barfooze.de/~moritz/up/heilagr-201005242104.png | 14:05 |
| ente | it used to look like this: http://barfooze.de/~moritz/up/heilagr-201004072357.png | 14:06 |
| ente | sorry for bothering you again, but the way it looks un crux is ugly :/ | 14:12 |
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| linopolus | it's the other way round :D the way it looks in crux is much nicer I guess :) | 14:13 |
| ente | why? | 14:14 |
| thrice` | you didn't used a patched cairo or something in arch? | 14:14 |
| ente | hm | 14:15 |
| * ente wonders what cairo is | 14:15 | |
| linopolus | ente: it's just my taste. (like ruby ;) | 14:15 |
| linopolus | cairo is a graphics lib | 14:15 |
| ente | linopolus: I consider it ugly | 14:16 |
| ente | linopolus: the letters are much bigger | 14:16 |
| ente | wait | 14:16 |
| * thrice` waits | 14:16 | |
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| thrice` | I think your first screenshot looks nice too, fwiw | 14:16 |
| ente | the letters are bigger and I wonder why | 14:17 |
| ente | they look a bit rounder and clearer in the second one | 14:17 |
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| thrice` | wow, the timeline is packed with action today \o/ | 14:18 |
| ente | meh, adjusting the Fontpath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf didn't help | 14:19 |
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| linopolus | last time I had such a problem, I changed the font( terminus -> dejavu sans mono ) :D | 14:20 |
| ente | this is supposed to be dejavu sans mono | 14:21 |
| ente | as you can see, the font is not blurred | 14:22 |
| ente | and much smaller | 14:22 |
| ente | my eyes are good | 14:22 |
| ente | and I hate blurred fonts | 14:22 |
| ente | I just want things to look normal | 14:22 |
| thrice` | I still use terminus, I hate to admit :( | 14:23 |
| jse | ente: fonts in xorg ftw... They never seem to look the same going from system to system. | 14:24 |
| ente | jse: weird thing is, they look the same on arch and ubuntu | 14:24 |
| ente | thrice`: I used to use proggyfonts, but they lack unicode | 14:24 |
| thrice` | I use a quite invasive patch on cairo, myself :( | 14:25 |
| thrice` | from ubuntu iirc | 14:25 |
| jse | Hm. | 14:25 |
| ente | does urxvt even make use of cairo? | 14:27 |
| thrice` | http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/cairo-1.8-lcd_filter.patch.bz2 specifically | 14:27 |
| tadzik | ente: I don't think so | 14:27 |
| ente | which means it can't be cairo in this case | 14:27 |
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| ente | bytecode.patch freetype-2.2.1-enable-valid.patch freetype-2.2.1-memcpy-fix.patch freetype-2.3.0-enable-spr.patch freetype2.install PKGBUILD | 14:31 |
| ente | interesting | 14:31 |
| * ente copies the arch patches | 14:31 | |
| * thrice` twitches | 14:32 | |
| tadzik | what is the arch philosophy again? "Vanilla packages, no patches"? | 14:34 |
| tadzik | I remember when they refused to patch openssl due to that | 14:34 |
| ente | wasn't that the slackware philosophy? | 14:37 |
| ente | tadzik: what were they supposed to patch at openssl? | 14:37 |
| tadzik | ente: to fix some mcabber issues, iirc | 14:38 |
| ente | ah | 14:38 |
| ente | freetype-2.2.1-memcpy-fix.patch <- that actually sounds like something you want :D | 14:38 |
| linopolus | arch wants bugs to be fixed in upstream, but not like a philosophy. the arch philosophy was KISS ^^ | 14:39 |
| thrice` | freetype is now MANY version beyond 2.2.1 - if it were wanted, surely it'd be applied by now? ;) | 14:39 |
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| jse | thrice`: it's historic patch, man! | 14:41 |
| jse | + a | 14:41 |
| ente | why is it there then | 14:41 |
| ente | arch is so bleeeeeeeding edge focused | 14:41 |
| treach | maybe sidoux is a better choice then. :p | 14:41 |
| jse | Heh. They also stick to their design and packaging philosophies ;) | 14:41 |
| thrice` | perhaps the arch dev couldn't figure out vim to change it | 14:41 |
| ente | possible | 14:42 |
| ente | I'm glad I'm switching away from arch | 14:42 |
| thrice` | never used it myself, only heard of a few complaints about their devs :( seems like a nice idea for a distro though | 14:42 |
| treach | every now and then discontent ex-archers tend to pop in here.. :> | 14:43 |
| linopolus | I'm ex-archer, too(since yesterday :D) | 14:44 |
| tadzik | treach: true :) | 14:44 |
| linopolus | gn8 | 14:44 |
| thrice` | later linopolus :> | 14:44 |
| tilman | it's night, not neight | 14:44 |
| treach | we used to get a lot of ex-slackware people, now it's arch. "the times are a-changing", I guess. :/ | 14:46 |
| thrice` | I was a slackware user before crux. I remember that my only challenge was learning to compile a kernel :( | 14:47 |
| ente | why can't that font shit be easier? I don't even know where to look | 14:48 |
| ente | any hints? | 14:49 |
| ente | freetype doesn't seem the right place | 14:49 |
| thrice` | and you don't have any ~/.fonts.conf or ~/.fontconfig cuasing havoc? | 14:49 |
| ente | nope | 14:49 |
| ente | triple checked | 14:49 |
| tilman | what's the problem now? | 14:50 |
| ente | tilman: still the same, dejavu looks ugly :P | 14:50 |
| ente | [21:05] < ente> http://barfooze.de/~moritz/up/heilagr-201005242104.png | 14:50 |
| ente | [21:06] < ente> it used to look like this: http://barfooze.de/~moritz/up/heilagr-201004072357.png | 14:50 |
| ente | I made X work again and took screenshots | 14:50 |
| tilman | lulz | 14:51 |
| tilman | dejavu in a terminal o_O | 14:51 |
| ente | yes, what else? | 14:51 |
| tilman | the one i use | 14:51 |
| tilman | smooth | 14:51 |
| tilman | ente: the first shot looks better imo | 14:52 |
| treach | terminus ftw! | 14:52 |
| tilman | the second is blurry as hell | 14:52 |
| thrice` | \o/ | 14:52 |
| thrice` | we said the same ;) | 14:52 |
| linopolus | me too | 14:52 |
| tilman | ente: did you tell fontconfig to _not_ use hinting for small point sizes? | 14:52 |
| tilman | this looks like 8pt | 14:52 |
| ente | it's 10pt | 14:52 |
| ente | both | 14:52 |
| ente | the second one looks smaller though | 14:53 |
| ente | I don't even know how to tell fontconfig anything :/ | 14:53 |
| tilman | ffs | 14:53 |
| tilman | ln -s font.avail/blah font.d | 14:53 |
| ente | fonts under X11 look like a whole single big mess | 14:53 |
| ente | yes, these are present | 14:54 |
| ente | I also changed to the bytecode version | 14:54 |
| tilman | well, i'm sorry | 14:54 |
| tilman | i'm not a font blurrification expert | 14:54 |
| tilman | :> | 14:54 |
| ente | >.< | 14:54 |
| tilman | try smooth, it's awesome | 14:55 |
| treach | no, awesome isn't smooth. :p | 14:55 |
| ente | I need a font that doesn't give me headache | 14:55 |
| ente | and dejavu sans mono does in this config | 14:55 |
| treach | ffs, get on with the program and just use terminus or some other font that is designed to look at all day, and doesn't look like crap. | 14:56 |
| ente | I used to use proggyfonts, but they don't have many unicode characters which makes everything look.... interesting if you have unicode | 14:56 |
| thrice` | mm, smooth looks nice | 14:56 |
| ente | yes, proggyclean | 14:56 |
| ente | thanks for the tip with smooth though | 14:56 |
| tilman | thrice`: ... and you can even use it with fontconfig these days | 14:56 |
| tilman | no server side font rendering needed for pcfs anymore | 14:57 |
| thrice` | mm, jue has a port too ;) | 14:58 |
| tilman | his seems saner | 14:58 |
| ente | 404 | 15:00 |
| ente | and I *hope* it's not me this time | 15:01 |
| thrice` | I wish I had learned to program. I can't even follow what the prt-get commits do | 15:04 |
| tilman | it's not too late | 15:05 |
| tilman | also: c++ is messed up | 15:05 |
| thrice` | even my girlfriend knows basic these days :( | 15:06 |
| tilman | 10 PRINT HAHA | 15:06 |
| tilman | 20 GOTO 10 | 15:06 |
| ente | doesn't line 10 miss some ""? | 15:06 |
| thrice` | and since, visual basic :) so, 'click on 20' ? :) | 15:06 |
| tilman | not in tilmanbasic | 15:06 |
| ente | :D | 15:07 |
| ente | yuck, basic | 15:07 |
| tilman | thrice`: go learn python | 15:07 |
| tilman | or, while you're unspoiled: http://www.learnyouahaskell.com/ | 15:07 |
| thrice` | haha | 15:08 |
| thrice` | I think C might actually have some job enhancements for me, but not sure a scripting language would | 15:08 |
| tilman | mmh | 15:08 |
| tilman | a scripting language might better suited to wet your appetite and get you started | 15:08 |
| tadzik | tilman: looks a bit like why's guide to ruby | 15:10 |
| tilman | yes | 15:10 |
| * treach thinks the language itself is a minor point. Tying the damned thing together is the problem. | 15:10 | |
| tilman | also first FAQ item | 15:10 |
| thrice` | I think the only time I would use such a tool, is for designing some controls platform, and writing code to plop it onto a circuit board too | 15:11 |
| thrice` | mm, i'll just stick to things that move | 15:11 |
| treach | tilman: also, IMO c++ isn't that bad, java.is.a.lot.worse. | 15:11 |
| ente | oh yes | 15:13 |
| ente | and I have a project deadline in a week >.< | 15:13 |
| thrice` | CRUX's fonts is your current roadblock ? :) | 15:13 |
| thrice` | are* | 15:13 |
| ente | yes, somehow | 15:13 |
| teK_ | Haskell is not awesome :x | 15:14 |
| ente | I need a way to write code without headache | 15:14 |
| ente | :P | 15:14 |
| ente | font is one thing, java is another | 15:14 |
| ente | I can't work around java though :/ | 15:14 |
| tilman | can clang compile the kernel yet? :p | 15:22 |
| thrice` | clang/llvm's goal is to replace gcc, or? | 15:24 |
| thrice` | sorry, 'an alternative to' | 15:24 |
| tilman | on mac os :p | 15:24 |
| thrice` | and bsd, no? | 15:24 |
| tilman | i meant the people being payed to work on it | 15:25 |
| tilman | but they aren't all from apple i think | 15:25 |
| tilman | http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=4068 | 15:25 |
| thrice` | http://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/04/23/freebsd-clang-compile/ | 15:25 |
| thrice` | oh, I see | 15:26 |
| tilman | looks retty good | 15:26 |
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| ME | Hi | 17:09 |
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| Guest39975 | Hello... | 17:10 |
| Guest39975 | somebody? | 17:11 |
| Guest39975 | I need helo | 17:11 |
| Guest39975 | help* | 17:12 |
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| jaeger | and patience | 17:12 |
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| jaeger | Guest39975: give more info about the problem | 17:13 |
| Guest39975 | I was wondering if there was anybody... | 17:13 |
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| Guest39975 | Well, I just installed CRUX 2.5 . When I boot, I get this error : "Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on | 17:14 |
| Guest39975 | (8,17) | 17:14 |
| Guest39975 | I recompiled to kernel 3 times, but I could never get this error disapear. | 17:14 |
| jaeger | Usually that messages means your filesystem or disk controller driver didn't get built into the kernel or were built as modules | 17:14 |
| Guest39975 | Thus, I have few questions... | 17:14 |
| Guest39975 | that's what I think too... I must select the wrong options... | 17:15 |
| jaeger | make sure they're builtin <*> instead of modules <M> | 17:15 |
| Guest39975 | My proccessor is AMD Athlon II X4 630 Quad-Core. In the make menuconfig, what is the type? | 17:15 |
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| jaeger | athlon64 | 17:16 |
| Guest39975 | I did check for M and *... | 17:16 |
| jaeger | (Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8) | 17:16 |
| Guest39975 | Ok, I think i checked this one. | 17:17 |
| jaeger | another helpful thing is that you can run 'lspci -k' and look at the lines that say either "Kernel driver in use" or "Kernel modules" | 17:17 |
| jaeger | to get a good idea of what kernel selections you need | 17:18 |
| Guest39975 | Then, what folder should I choose at this line : cp arch/xyz/boot/bzImage | 17:18 |
| Guest39975 | Is it i386? x86? | 17:18 |
| jaeger | x86 | 17:18 |
| jaeger | i386 and x86 should be the same these days | 17:19 |
| jaeger | it would only matter if you were on 64-bit, you'd use x86_64 instead | 17:19 |
| Guest39975 | I am 64-bit (on Windows), but I have to download the 64-bit iso. | 17:19 |
| Guest39975 | (?) | 17:20 |
| jaeger | If you're using the regular CRUX ISO, it's 32-bit | 17:20 |
| Guest39975 | ok | 17:20 |
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| Guest39975 | Is there a difference between 2.5 and 2.6? I mean, would changing to 2.6 solve my problem? I guess not. | 17:21 |
| jaeger | There are differences but in this case the problem isn't with the release, it's a kernel configuration | 17:21 |
| Guest39975 | Also, for the filesystem type, can I only select the filesystem I'm using (ext3) ? | 17:22 |
| jaeger | Usually, yes. If you know you won't need to access other filesystems | 17:23 |
| Guest39975 | Okay. Is ext4 available on 2.6? | 17:23 |
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| jaeger | It might be, I don't remember which kernel version ext4 was added in | 17:24 |
| Guest39975 | I printed the 2.5 CRUX manual (about 6 months ago) and it doesn't talk about ext4... Was wondering if ext4 was available as stable and not experimental in 2.6 | 17:25 |
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| jaeger | Well, you could compile a newer kernel source than what comes with 2.6 if you need to | 17:26 |
| jaeger | or 2.5, for that matter | 17:26 |
| jaeger | Not sure about the fs tools, though | 17:26 |
| Guest39975 | Yep, ext4 was added in 2.6 (I looked in the manual) | 17:26 |
| Guest39975 | Oh, before I forget! Could lilo be the cause? | 17:27 |
| Guest39975 | I mean i am using an external drive to install CR<3X.. | 17:27 |
| Guest39975 | The drive letter is usually /dev/sdbx on CRUX, but for lilo, is it sdb? (on archlinux, was sdf...) . Is there a generic way of describing disk (like uiid)? | 17:28 |
| jaeger | You're installing to the external drive? | 17:29 |
| Guest39975 | Yes. Windows is internal, linux external | 17:30 |
| jaeger | It will depend on what other support you put in the kernel. If other disk devices show up before it to the kernel, it could be labeled later than sdb, etc. | 17:30 |
| jaeger | I've got to go for now, will be back in a few hours. Hopefully you get it sorted out | 17:30 |
| Guest39975 | Thanks for everything. | 17:31 |
| Guest39975 | is there anybody else in the IRC? | 17:31 |
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| prologic | yeah | 17:37 |
| prologic | :) | 17:37 |
| prologic | I haven't been following conversation though | 17:37 |
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