IRC Logs for #crux Friday, 2010-06-11

pitillogood morning00:57
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: gv: update to 3.7.103:59
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: dhcpcd: update to 5.2.504:00
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: libtool: update to 2.2.1004:00
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cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libtool: update to 2.2.804:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libtool: rm redundant man-pages04:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: gettext: update to
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: module-init-tools: update to 3.1204:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: dhcpcd: update to 5.2.504:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libtool: update to 2.2.1004:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.704:11
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libmpfr: update to 3.0.004:11
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cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: portmap: removed05:06
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: gajim: updated to 0.13.405:59
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entewhat? :P06:59
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Kyle__other than find /usr/ports -name ".footprint" -exec grep -H bcc {} \;11:12
Kyle__How would I find out which core/opt package provides bcc?11:12
thrice`prt-get fsearch11:12
Kyle__thrice`: and if it returned nothing, the port doesn't exist, or it doesn't exist in the ports-trees you've configured?11:14
thrice`or, doesn't exist in the ports tree you have told prt-get about (in /etc/prt-get.conf)11:15
Kyle__Ahh.  OK.11:15
thrice`so, I don't think it will hunt /usr/ports/contrib, even if it exists, if not listed as a 'prtdir' in the config11:16
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Kyle__Errr.  prt-get, does it handle binary from stock-packages, or does it do source only?11:46
Kyle__I ask because an build gone-awry just overwrote as86.11:47
RyoSRotwang: care to update pidgin?11:50
RotwangKyle__: could you rephrase your question please ?11:50
RotwangRyoS: no time now11:50
RyoShi btw :)11:50
RyoSshall i send you a diff?11:50
Kyle__Rotwang: I was wondering if prt-get grabs a binary (or can grab) from the net, and install that, instead of just building a package for me.11:50
RotwangI'm learning graph teory basics [;11:50
Kyle__Rotwang: graph-theory?  Math major, or engineering?11:51
RotwangRyoS: you may, but still I wont push changes to git until I'll test them myself11:51
RotwangKyle__: engineering11:51
Kyle__Rotwang: fun stuff.11:52
pitilloRyoS: hello, can you share the diff?11:53
Kyle__Enjoy it now.  Chances are you won't get to in the real world :/11:53
RyoSpitillo: nas :3 sure11:53
* thrice` enjoys his engineering job :>11:54
RyoSbuild brakes, let me see..11:55
jseThen step on the accelerator if it's braking.11:55
Kyle__thrice`: I enjoy my job now, back at a uni, and I enjoyed my job in "the real world" aka industry, but I didn't get to do fun mathy stuff.11:55
thrice`Kyle__, which eng. discipline?11:55
Kyle__thrice`: Uni?  CS.  Industry, linux sysadmin (which for some reason always morphs into linux+some-network+printer+backup+anything-else sysadmin).11:57
RotwangKyle__: do you have any good books, materials on recursion relations, generator functions etc?11:57
thrice`oh, I thought you meant "real" engineering ;)11:57
Kyle__Rotwang: Sadly no, it's been so long since I've done any of it.11:58
RyoSpitillo: ok, builds, had to rebuild libxml211:58
RyoShavent run update for quiet some time.. shame on me ;)11:59
Kyle__thrice`: CS is weird.  Rarely as "science" as physics, or as engineering as EE, but always more science than EE, and more engineering than Physics.11:59
thrice`more science than EE, you think?12:01
Kyle__thrice`: I think so.12:02
thrice`mm, speaking of, I suppose I should get back to doing something useful12:02
pitilloRyoS: ok12:04
RyoSpitillo: diff from pkgfile and .footprint?12:05
pitilloRyoS: the more confortable for you12:05
Rotwangpitillo: if you have working iupdates foe some of my ports, youre free to push them12:05
Rotwangit is going to be a while until my testing environment is up and running12:06
RyoSpitillo: missed to copy old footprint and md5sum XD wait, i will deliver a full diff of pkgfile, md5sum and footprint12:06
pitilloRotwang: ok Rotwang, I haven't been working so much these last days, I just saw the changelogs for pidgin, and I want to test newer versions12:06
RyoSsame reason for me here12:07
pitillohere I have problems with my develop machine... it's down (2 weeks...), there is where I run the safe-env to build things (last adds of my personal repo were done from a dirty enviroment)12:08
pitilloRyoS: if you want to put newer ones there is no problem, I can check with local copies too12:08
RyoSwhatever suits you right, i have some free minutes12:09
RyoSjust doing some stuff right now and talking to too much people right now, but i can give you full diff on everything12:10
pitilloRyoS: I think the more confortable could be to pastebin Pkgfile/.footprint12:10
pitilloyo tilman12:10
pitilloRyoS: jajaaja, what you prefer. It's hard to see you, sure all people are pushing...12:11
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Kyle__Does anyone know of a page detailing how to get mutlilib (32 & 64) support on a crux x86_64 install?  I need it for Virtualbox.14:19
jaegerKyle__: there' - it's a bit out of date but still works14:20
jaegerer, there's14:20
Kyle__jaeger: Awesome.  In knew I saw somethign like that, but google was not being my friend.14:21
jaegerIf you have trouble with it I can likely supply packages or libs from my install at home14:21
Kyle__Thanks man.  I'll let you know how it goes.14:22
* Kyle__ knocks on wood14:22
Kyle__Shouldn't be too hard.14:22
sipjaeger:  you should be building gnome instead of tinkering with multilib :-P14:22
jaegerI am, actually :)14:22
jaegerworking on 2.30.1 right now14:22
jaegerThis is the first day recently I've had any time for it14:23
jaegerI imagine I'll still run into problems with pam or policykit14:24
Kyle__So are you guys using hal in gnome?14:24
Kyle__Just wondering.  Out of my deep seeded hatred of hal.14:24
jaegerI don't think there's any way you can avoid hal when using gnome14:25
Kyle__Really? Shame.14:26
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jaegerhal doesn't bother me as much as policykit, policykit's documentation is shit14:26
Kyle__heh :) I only had to dig into it once.  It was bad.  I think there's some mental scarring, since I don't remember most of that week...14:27
prologicWhat's the xfce4-icon-theme port been replaced with ?14:27
jaegerno idea there14:28
prologicme neither14:28
prologicthe port's gone :/14:28
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prologic!seen sepan14:29
Nekrodes!seen sepen14:34
Kyle__jaeger: Heh.  I should have payed more attention... That's an older glibc, the box is mad at me now.14:35
jaegeryeah, I had to do some rebuilding of stuff after installing packages but got it working14:37
jaeger@seen sepen14:37
clbjaeger: sepen was last seen in #crux 1 day, 11 hours, 14 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <sepen> hi14:37
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jaegerKyle__: I think it was mostly prt-get that complained but it's been a while since I messed with that14:43
Kyle__jaeger: this was a different version of glibc, so no new binaries would start (oops).14:45
jaegerah, didn't remember it being quite so drastic14:45
Kyle__you probably did this with crux 2.514:45
Kyle__Of course, I could just use 2.5, do the multi-lib thing, then udpate....14:46
jaegernope, 2.6... but it might have been an older version of pure6414:46
jaegerI have a glibc#2.10.1-1 package I can upload somewhere if needed14:49
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Kyle__jaeger: That might work really well if you could ;)14:49
jaegerwill take a few minutes14:51
Kyle__Not a problem :) I'm on the clock.14:51
jaegeron a side note, is there a single package ANYWHERE that actually honors --disable-gtk-doc? grrrr14:53
Kyle__This is gnome, when good design and user-chioce are compleetly irrelivant when politics and zellotry crop up.14:54
Kyle__I'm completly convinced that the gnome-group doesn't think of it as "linux" or "gnu-linux", but gnome-linux.14:55
jaegerperhaps so, if they think that far ahead14:58
Kyle__jaeger: you are awesome.15:01
jaegerdon't say that until they work, hehe15:01
jaegerthough I imagine they would, they came from this machine15:07
Kyle__Well, I'm about to see.15:07
Kyle__And it worked.15:10
jaegergood deal15:10
thrice`prologic, use tango-icon-theme or so - they dn't provide a default anymore15:22
prologicoh ic15:26
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jaegerI'm not sure that building gnome is worth the effort anymore15:54
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thrice`gentoo has a pam-free polkit patch, which slackware also uses fwiw15:55
thrice`since kde now 'requires' polkit for functionality15:55
thrice`something like fedora is probably easier at this point, though :>15:56
jaegerI'll have to look into that... right now I'm fighting with atk/pango/gtk and gobject-introspection15:56
jaegerI'm seriously considering dropping gnome entirely and going with xfce or something instead16:02
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tilmanhello from guruplug :>17:39
tilmanindeed :)17:50
luxhdid it overheat yet?17:54
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