IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2010-08-24

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pitillogood morning01:08
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tadzikgood morning :)02:31
pitillomorning tadzik :)02:32
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sepenmorning04:28
teK_hello04:28
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tadzikoh hai04:42
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mblmphi 2 all05:16
teK_hello05:16
mblmpwho khow, what happened with crux.nu?05:17
mblmpi can get site via anonymizer only :(05:18
tadzikworksforme05:18
teK_same here05:18
mblmpi'm from kazakhstan05:19
cippptry other dns server ?05:20
mblmpi can lookup crux.nu05:20
teK_^- first show the output of dig -t A crux.nu05:20
teK_ah ok05:20
mblmpi can connect to 25 port05:20
mblmp# traceroute crux.nu05:22
mblmp18  crux.nu (213.132.101.140)  106.600 ms  104.913 ms  109.357 ms05:22
mblmpbut i can't get page (05:23
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mblmp2 teK:  dig -t A crux.nu05:25
mblmp; <<>> DiG 9.7.1-P2 <<>> -t A crux.nu05:25
mblmp;; global options: +cmd05:25
mblmp;; Got answer:05:25
mblmp;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3264805:25
mblmp;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 305:25
mblmp;; QUESTION SECTION:05:25
mblmp;crux.nu.                       IN      A05:25
mblmp;; ANSWER SECTION:05:25
mblmpcrux.nu.                3440    IN      A       213.132.101.14005:25
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mblmp((((05:34
teK_mblmp: http://dpaste.com/233196/05:34
teK_does this work?05:34
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mblmp% telnet crux.nu 8005:39
mblmpTrying 213.132.101.140...05:39
mblmpConnected to crux.nu.05:39
mblmpEscape character is '^]'.05:39
mblmpGET / HTTP/1.005:39
mblmp[ENTER][ENTER]05:39
mblmpyes, it is05:39
teK_well O_o05:40
teK_so you receive the crux start-page upon entering GET / HTTP/1.0?05:40
mblmpand read plain html :D05:41
mblmpi would like update ports05:41
mblmpand some source placed шт crux.nu05:42
teK_have you tried a different browser? this looks strange05:42
teK_what about wget? curl? firefox?05:42
mblmpi have many computers05:43
mblmpi can't get from win, linux and from console05:43
mblmpand i have direct connection to internet05:44
sepenmblmp, ports -u? using rsync method?05:49
mblmpyes05:49
sepennot sure, but you should try httpup in case you're behind a proxy05:50
sepen*err, rsync should work too05:51
mblmpi updated all ports, exclude placed on crux.nu ^(05:51
sepenmblmp, just try a individual port05:51
teK_I don't get why telnet works but wget etc. wont05:51
teK_what's the error message you get for wget crux.nu ?05:52
sepenmblmp, something like $ cd /tmp; rsync -aqz crux.nu::ports/crux-2.6/core/bash/ bash05:52
sepenuse -avz to being verbosely05:52
mblmpsepen, i tried... иге w/o results Ж(05:53
mblmpsorry xneur Ж(05:53
sepenI can't understand you05:54
sepenЖ ??05:54
teK_:p05:54
mblmpi tried, but w/o any results05:54
mblmpi run comand, wait some time (30-40 minuts)05:55
mblmpafter ctrl+c05:55
teK_wget crux.nu does what?05:56
sepenmblmp, to be sure, append this line to your /etc/hosts; "213.132.101.140 crux.nu"05:57
mblmp# wget crux.nu05:57
mblmp--2010-08-24 16:58:16--  http://crux.nu/05:57
mblmpResolving crux.nu... 213.132.101.14005:57
mblmpConnecting to crux.nu|213.132.101.140|:80... connected.05:57
mblmpHTTP request sent, awaiting response...05:57
sepenhmm05:57
mblmpthat's all05:57
sepento read headers $ curl -I http://crux.nu05:57
mblmp#  curl -I http://crux.nu05:58
mblmpHTTP/1.1 200 OK05:58
mblmpDate: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:58:05 GMT05:58
mblmpServer: Apache/2.2.10 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.10 OpenSSL/0.9.8i PHP/5.2.6 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.8.805:58
mblmpX-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.605:58
mblmpExpires: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:00:00 GMT05:58
mblmpCache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate05:58
mblmpContent-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1;05:58
sepenmblmp, please use a paste service for that05:58
teK_there's not much chatting here :-)05:58
sepenmblmp, seems that you're behind an http filter?05:59
mblmpi am behind NAT...05:59
mblmpw/o any firewall06:00
teK_sepen how come he can do the telnet trick?06:00
sepenhttp filter is in Level706:00
teK_GET / HTTP/1.0 IS layer 7 i'd say06:00
sepentelnet avoid some parts of http proto?06:00
teK_*g*06:00
teK_you mean agent etc?06:01
mblmpi haven't any proxy, filters e.t.c.06:01
sepenmaybe, really I'm trying to find for what06:01
mblmpi have direct connection t internet06:01
sepenmblmp, 1sec06:01
sepenmblmp, whats your ip? I'm looking at server logs06:02
mblmp195.82.13.5806:03
sepen195.82.13.58 - - [24/Aug/2010:12:40:17 +0200] "\xff\xf4\xff\xfd\x06" 200 581906:04
sepenwhat are you doing?06:04
mblmpi had some errors with my web-server, when wrong configure ssl06:06
mblmpi'm try open page only06:07
sepenyou got 200 even using http1.1, maybe from your browser, 195.82.13.58 - - [24/Aug/2010:12:40:28 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 582606:09
sepenso finally crux.nu is working ok, and seems that the problem maybe is on your side06:10
mblmpstandtard answer from admin =)06:12
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sepenmblmp, Can you prove otherwise?06:14
mblmpnow, i try get site from other server connected to diferent ISP06:17
mblmpcould you see logs for куйуые from ip 95.56.233.18006:18
mblmp*requests06:18
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sepenmblmp, 200 again06:18
mblmp(((06:19
sepen200 for the 3 connections I see06:19
mblmpok... what about rsync?06:20
sepeneing?06:20
mblmpi cannot get ports updates06:21
sepenI can06:21
sepenanyone with the same problem?06:21
mblmpyes06:21
mblmpcould you see logs of rsyncd?06:22
sepenfor what? rsync is working fine for all but you06:22
sepenif nobody has the same problem sounds that is due to your config, so I'll stop to waste time06:23
sepenbbl06:23
teK_mblmp: I would but I do not have access to the server right now06:24
mblmpsnx for help06:26
teK_np06:30
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frinnststupid isp06:46
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mblmpi found some peoples who cannot get site too06:51
mblmpall they connected to one isp...06:52
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thrice`definitely OK here too06:54
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jaeger@seen sepen09:17
clbjaeger: sepen was last seen in #crux 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <sepen> bbl09:17
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teK_http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/16/intel_lyndonville/09:38
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thrice`interesting post on the ML about the arch ISO.  I think suse does that too, producing isohybrid images ?10:29
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Rotwangisnt this just a matter of modules?10:37
Rotwangloaded in initramfs10:37
thrice`I don't think so, I think it creates the .iso file unique10:39
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cipppthrice`: isohybrid = iso for cd and usb10:42
cipppor x86-x64 ?10:42
tadzikcd and usb10:43
cipppits easy to make10:43
cipppisohybrid "$ISO_FILENAME"10:43
thrice`are you sure it's that simple?  didn't work when I tried with the crux .iso10:43
cippparch make iso like this10:44
cipppand put image on usb with dd=..10:45
cipppi make iso hybrid and work in a comp with usb210:46
cipppdont work in other with usb110:46
cipppah , original crux iso dont work for me too10:48
thrice`I think it requires some magic when creating the .iso10:48
cipppno10:48
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Rotwangmkarchiso distingushes both10:56
Rotwanghttp://projects.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/archiso/mkarchiso?id=db1dde541c09927eb5f9bc1240a867d92e084cd910:56
Rotwangthere are separate command_usb and command_iso functions10:57
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cipppthrice`: http://admin.home.cippp.operaunite.com/file_sharing/content/11:02
cippptell me if you want to try , if no i stop unite11:03
thrice`that's OK, I already managed to get 2.7 installed :)11:03
cipppits not for install :) its crux hibryd iso :)11:04
cipppok11:04
Rotwang43 MB?11:04
Rotwangit is iso without packages?11:04
cipppyes11:04
cipppfor playng11:05
cippp:)11:05
cippptilman: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html11:06
cipppmaybe this help you to boot from usb11:06
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tilmancippp: thanks11:45
cippp:)11:45
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cipppi made xfce*-git with no gtk-goc , docbook , hal , ... deps , http://github.com/cippp/xfce-git15:13
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thrice`your ports all look great :)15:16
cipppall ?15:16
thrice`I mean in general, the ones I look at are all very clean, etc :)15:17
cipppthank you :)15:17
kreedHey, guys, whats DE/WM you use? I use fluxbox.15:21
cipppe1715:21
kreedcippp, hmm, two days ago I think about try it15:21
cipppand ?15:22
kreedIt's really good?15:22
kreedAnd it depend on gnome?15:22
cipppthe best for me :)15:22
cipppno15:22
kreedBecause I hear about using e17+gnome15:22
thrice`cippp, did you try xfce from git?  I'm curious how that is too, sounds like they have some interesting ideas15:23
cippplike fluxbox + gnome15:23
cipppthrice`: i build this Pkgfile's :)15:23
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teK_kreed: fluxbox here, too16:30
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jaegeranyone remember the name of the pager in this screenshot? http://jaeger.morpheus.net/misc/destruction-20090605140750.png - the bottom right box23:00
jaegerI can't remember it at all now23:00
jaegerah ha! It's 'visibility'23:03
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