IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2010-09-02

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pitillogood morning01:08
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sepenmorning01:41
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tilmanente: yes02:08
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: lftp: updated to 4.0.10.02:19
tilmanwtf, my urxvts just exited02:28
entetilman: what was it?02:29
tilmana change to the XDamage extension02:31
enteah02:31
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juemorning02:40
teK_hello02:41
teK_jue: is there a reason for the outdated pmwiki port?02:41
tilmanhey02:45
jueteK_: not really, the one im my personal repo should be current02:51
teK_maybe you could update the one in contrib, too :)02:52
cruxbot[xorg.git/2.7]: xorg-xf86-input-synaptics: updated to 1.3.0.02:56
tilmanjue: something's busted about opt/ruby in 2.7. the port only installs /usr/bin/ruby for me, but none of the binaries :|03:01
tilmanjue: ie everything from /usr/bin is MISSING except /usr/bin/ruby03:02
tilmanjue: it also happens if i 'pkgrm ruby' before building03:02
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juehmm, that03:10
jue's strange, could you check whether a -j1 helps?03:12
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: nvidia: update to 256.5303:20
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: scite: update to 2.2103:20
tilmanjue: doesn't help. i'm reading through tool/rbinstall.rb now03:20
tilmanjue: does 'prt-get remove ruby && prt-get install ruby' work for you?03:23
tilmanoh boy03:27
tilmanooooh boy03:27
tilmanidiots03:27
tilman*shakeshead*03:27
tilmanjue: i think i found it03:27
tilmanbbiab03:27
juetilman: works for me03:30
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Revert "pkg-get: removed."03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: pkg-get: adopted, fixed deps and added a note to the README file03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Revert "pkg-get-bashcompletion: removed."03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: pkg-get-bashcompletion: adopted, fixed installation path03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: bash-completion: adopted, updated to 1.203:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: bash-completion: switched to tar.bz2 sources03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: crux-bashcompletion: adopted, fixed installation path03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: glib: updated to 2.24.2.03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: libesmtp: updated to 1.0.6.03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: ruby-cairo: updated to 1.8.5.03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: lftp: updated to 4.0.10.03:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: nvidia: update to 256.5303:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: scite: update to 2.2103:35
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.703:35
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: m4: update to 1.4.1503:38
tilmanmmh, my regex-fu is weak03:38
tilmanjue: currently, i have PKGMK_WORK_DIR="/home/tilman/.tmp/pkgmk/work/$name"03:39
tilmanjue: and the installer does:03:39
tilmannext if /\/[.#]|(\.(old|bak|orig|rej|diff|patch|core)|~|\/core)$/i =~ src03:39
tilmanie it will _not_ install files whose paths matches that regex03:39
tilmani'm not sure what \/[.#] means -- is # a special character wrt regexes? i didn't think so03:40
prologictilman, not afaik no03:41
prologic\/\.# could have worked just as well I guess03:42
tilmancan you spot why that regex matches then?03:43
prologicwhat does src contain ?03:48
tilmaneg /home/tilman/.tmp/pkgmk/work/ruby/src/ruby-1.9.2-p0/src/gem03:49
tilmani'm pretty sure only the first part (ie PKGMK_WORK_DIR) is significant03:50
tilmanjue: i have a patch that just removes that paranoid check in rbinstall.rb03:50
juetilman: feel free to commit it ;)03:52
tilmanok03:52
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: m4: update to 1.4.1503:54
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: ruby: fixed installation of binaries.03:59
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Rotwangby any chance someone is in possesion of typespeed port?09:04
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thrice`not me, but doesn't look like it's more than configure, make, make install ; not that simple?09:53
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Rotwangthrice`: yes it is10:47
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dum8d0gfirst I wanted to create port for vi, but it doesn't build13:09
teK_O_o13:09
dum8d0gso I wanted at least create port for 'st', but 'st' is customized thru sources so port is irelevant13:10
dum8d0gthen I tried to hack prt-get to show full path to port  - looked into source and the code was there already..13:10
dum8d0gman.. I am so useless today..13:10
Rotwangyeah13:14
Rotwangreading man cant hurt13:14
dum8d0gRotwang: I read it. Maybe too fast.13:15
dum8d0g;)13:15
dum8d0gugh, I cant vote in flyspray.. grr13:15
Rotwangreading manpage is only half a succes13:15
Rotwangunderstanding it is the other half13:15
dum8d0gand thats I will never be successful using bash13:16
dum8d0g$ man bash | wc -l13:16
dum8d0g535113:16
dum8d0gI certainly do not understand that13:16
dum8d0ghey, there is no port for ksh?13:17
dum8d0git isn't! yay, finaly something to create port for13:18
dum8d0gand dont even think to say 'I already have port for ksh'13:18
teK_because zsh is teh P0WNz!!13:19
dum8d0gwell, I do not trust shells that come with setting wizard13:20
dum8d0gits like 'next, next, ok'13:20
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jseMany years ago when Han was still around, there was a mksh port.13:22
jseProbably not the same thing but you get the idea.13:22
dum8d0gmksh is good too13:22
teK_what bs argument :)13:22
dum8d0gbtw, my talk about shells http://martin.kopta.eu/sut/shelly/shelly.pdf13:22
dum8d0gIf anybody likes zsh, he should try 'fish'13:24
teK_wrt the binary sizes in your slides:13:26
teK_% ls -lhH =bash =zsh13:26
teK_-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.1M [2010/05/16] /bin/bash*13:26
teK_-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 767K [2010/02/22] /bin/zsh*13:26
dum8d0gthey arent absolute13:27
dum8d0gI was just showing the relation between shell sizes13:28
dum8d0glike that 'dash' is smallest and bash/zsh are the biggest13:28
dum8d0gand btw, zsh is bigger than bash, because it has bazilions modules13:28
dum8d0gbash doesnt13:29
dum8d0g(if you wanted to point at that)13:29
teK_of which I don't use one13:32
dum8d0gbtw, what do you think about http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&action=details.addvote&task_id=587 ?13:33
dum8d0g;)13:33
* dum8d0g hopes they are logged in13:34
teK_someone (jue?) mentioned in #dev that using downloads.sf.net instead of dl.sf.net and the like fixes the problems also13:35
dum8d0gyes13:36
dum8d0gI do that13:36
teK_I use the hosts trick and have no problems13:37
* thrice` uses a gentoo mirror for all source downloads13:37
dum8d0ghosts trick doesnt work for me :(13:38
dum8d0gbut I am probable too stupid to configure it properly13:38
teK_well.. no?13:39
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dum8d0gheh, now I combined prdownloads + downloads.sf.net + hosts and it works13:40
dum8d0gScorpions - Wind Of Change13:40
dum8d0g  --enable-silly          [A silly option]13:45
dum8d0g<< wonder what does that13:45
teK_I'm sure it does something silly13:46
dum8d0g;)13:47
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dum8d0gmeh, I didn't think that PKGMK_IGNORE_FOOTPRINT="yes" will also ignore to CREATE footprints14:09
teK_which woul be quite pointless14:09
teK_+d14:09
dum8d0gdoesnt matter14:10
dum8d0ghttp://martin.kopta.eu/crux/ports/pdksh/Pkgfile14:11
dum8d0ghope mksh will be easier to port14:12
dum8d0gcannot remember how is it.. {pre,post}-{un,}install ?14:17
dum8d0gScorpions - Rock You Like A Hurricane14:18
dum8d0gHERE I AM14:18
dum8d0gwait, is there any '*uninstall*' script for ports?14:19
dum8d0gah, {post,pre}-remove14:20
dum8d0gLIKE A HURRICANE14:21
* dum8d0g feels like flooding the wall14:21
dum8d0ghey, that is not nice. where are my +x flags after httpup sync?14:30
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dum8d0gdamn apache scalps it14:40
teK_what a pun14:41
dum8d0ghttp://imgur.com/soh75.jpg14:52
thrice`:p14:53
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dum8d0gwell, I could use rsync15:19
dum8d0gbut I dont have server for that15:19
dum8d0gI guess I should buy one15:19
enteif you don't have one, httpup is fine15:21
entewhat's the problem?15:21
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dum8d0gwith executable flags15:23
dum8d0gthey are on server files, but wget or whatever downloads them as 644 files15:23
dum8d0g(of course httpup downloads them as 644 too)15:24
enteI could host your ports collection if you want15:24
enteyou can simply upload everything you want to publish via rsync15:25
enteor something like that15:25
* dum8d0g is looking for cheap vps15:30
dum8d0ghmm, $2 for month. not bad.15:36
dum8d0gs/for/per15:36
enteyeah15:39
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jcaley#oclug15:48
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dum8d0g?15:57
rreyes2I think he meant to put a /join in front of that16:04
ente#buttplug16:04
rreyes2#o.O16:05
jaegergrrrr...16:08
jaegertrying to download a 12GB file via a web UI and only get 3.7GB of it16:08
enteweb is evil <316:08
jaegerhad to log into the server, get into a root shell (risking voiding support contract) and scp the file to my workstation16:08
entewget -c doesn't work?16:09
jaegerthere's no http-accessible path I can use, it's a very slick ajax UI16:09
jaegersnoracle storage16:09
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entebut that's awesome!~16:10
enteweb 2.0!16:10
jaegerhttp://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/disk-storage/031680.htm16:10
enteyou can't ever have enough16:10
entejust like you can't ever have enough java classes ever16:10
jaegerheh16:10
jaegerI've had enough already16:10
jaegerFortunately I won't get in trouble for using the root shell because our snoracle rep told me to16:11
entesmall project, we had 9 classes and a good design, he told us to have about 40 classes and a shitty design16:11
jaegerew16:11
enteand before writing any code, we have to do 3 weeks of UML16:12
entethere's one more week for the actual coding16:12
entenow that I think about it, 4 weeks of UML, 1 week coding16:13
enteguess if I had to do it again, I wouldn't go to university16:14
jaegerheh16:15
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dum8d0gfffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu16:24
dum8d0gwhy the hell they used .cpio.gz16:24
dum8d0gyes, everyone know tar sucks, but cpio doesnt solve it..16:24
dum8d0gis there way to enforce 'upack command' to pkgmk?16:25
dum8d0gs/upack/unpack16:26
* thrice` would just do it in build()16:34
thrice`gunzip | cpio -imdv  or whatever16:35
jaegerI recently near-hosed my workstation here but uncompressing the crux initrd into /16:36
jaegerthanks to cpio16:36
jaeger--no-absolute-filenames IS YOUR FRIEND16:36
jaegers/but/by/16:36
thrice`nice :>16:38
jaegerWasn't hard to fix but it did take me a while searching through /bin and /sbin and figuring out which files I needed to reinstall from ubuntu packages16:40
thrice`i've never had any luck with ubuntu :(  it always behaves oddly on my laptop, especially suspend/resume stuff16:41
jaegerI've had very good luck with it but I don't do much out of the ordinary16:41
jaegerhaven't really used it on laptops much16:41
jaegerI'd be using crux here if we had an official multilib 64-bit version but for now, ubuntu16:42
jaegerdum8d0g: to answer your question I've overridden the unpack command before to do something special, I think it's the nwn-diamond port16:42
jaegerunpack_source()16:43
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dum8d0gthat should work, but I am too lazy to work out the directories.. unpacking in build seems to work16:51
dum8d0gmksh port done16:51
dum8d0gsomewhat16:51
* dum8d0g is going to bed..16:52
dum8d0gbye16:52
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thrice`:>16:53
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