IRC Logs for #crux Monday, 2010-09-27

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pt_wm8505good morning01:01
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sepenmorning02:12
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: monit: updated to 5.2.102:16
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: mldonkey: updated to 3.0.502:16
frinnstdexteeeeeeeeer02:24
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Rotwanghi05:59
RotwangI've got problem05:59
Rotwangxorg + kms + intel == 50% cpu usage06:00
Rotwangany suggestions?06:00
Rotwangkernel 2.6.35.506:00
teK_which process uses the cpu?06:02
teK_but no, I have no suggestions06:02
Rotwang/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /home/bartek//.serverauth.122806:07
tadzikwhat has changed recently?06:14
RotwangI installed crux, lol06:17
tadzik;)06:17
Rotwanghtop shows that X eats up to 15% of cpu06:21
Rotwangbut the graph shows 50% for both cores06:21
Rotwangmight it be kernel?06:21
tadziknever had 2.6.35.5. You may want to try .606:22
Rotwangwill do06:23
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juehello07:20
cippphello07:22
Rotwangkernel upgrade didnt help07:24
Rotwangmaybe if I downgrade?07:24
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: dovecot: upate to 2.0.407:26
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: gnuplot: upate to 4.4.107:26
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: mpg123: upate to 1.12.407:26
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: mysql: upate to 5.1.5107:26
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: screen: new source url, FS#65207:26
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: dovecot: upate to 2.0.407:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gnuplot: upate to 4.4.107:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: mpg123: upate to 1.12.407:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: mysql: upate to 5.1.5107:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: screen: new source url, FS#65207:27
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.707:27
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RotwangI've found out teh problem08:40
Rotwangit was lxsession that was making all teh mess08:40
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tadzikRotwang: I'm on 2.6.33.7 since .35 came out08:54
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Rotwangtadzik: I fixed it09:07
Rotwangbtw, any contrib/pcmanfm users around?09:07
tadzikI tried to, but it doesn't display icons for me09:07
Rotwangdid you set up your icon theme?09:08
RotwangI've got gtk-icon-theme-name="nuoveXT2"09:09
Rotwangin my ~/.gtkrc-2.009:09
tadziknah, I don't have09:10
tadzikI only have gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" ;)09:10
tadzikI have gnome-icon-theme installed though09:11
Rotwangtadzik: thats teh case probably09:11
tadzikhrm09:11
tadzikoh, works09:17
tadzikRotwang++09:17
tadzikI may be playing with it a bit then09:18
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Rotwangtadzik: on the updated crux 2.6?09:37
Rotwangpcmanfm 0.9.709:38
Rotwang?09:38
tadzikRotwang: on 2.7 actually09:38
tadzikyes, 0.9.709:39
Rotwangok09:39
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tadzikhah, Arch devs are nuts11:01
tadziktheir PKGBUILD for pulseaudio is almost 100 lines long, while the build consists of ./configure && make && make install in fact11:02
tadzikI'm always amazed how madly can they bloat their PKGBUILDs11:02
teK_:)11:03
ulughbeghcan i increase max shm via sysctl11:04
mhikernel.shmmax?11:06
ulughbeghyep11:06
ulughbegh"sudo echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax" gives permiison error11:07
mhiuse the sysctl tool11:07
mhisysctl -w kernel.shmmax=0x7fffffff11:07
mhior.. don't use hex, use decimal11:08
Zabaulughbegh, you're doing it wrong.  You run echo as root, and the redirection is done by the user shell outside sudo.11:08
ulughbeghZaba, ahh thanks11:08
teK_you could use sudo su -c 'echo ...'11:09
mhior use the appropriate tool ;p11:10
ulughbeghteK_, thanks11:10
teK_mhi: the redirection problem can bite you with /proc, too11:10
mhiit's like "vi /etc/sudoers" instead of "visudo"11:10
teK_not11:10
thrice`sudo su is kinda weird, but works :p11:11
tadzikwhy not just login as root? pressing ^D is shorter than all of those solutions :)11:11
mhiteK_: why not?11:11
mhiwhat's the advantage of 'echo' if there's 'sysctl'?11:12
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teK_mhi: none but it's ok to use echo. visudo has additional capabilities over vi11:17
mhiCrappy syntax checking, okay. ;]11:18
teK_file locking11:18
mhiWell.. ok, but I even consider NOT using redirections an advantage. It's cleaner. Same with "patch.. < .." instead of "patch -i", but that's a matter of taste, I guess.11:20
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: mplayer: add yasm dependency13:58
thrice`noooo13:58
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thrice`teK_, fwiw, --yasm=''   can avoid that I think14:02
teK_it provides speedup14:12
Rotwang;>14:13
thrice`well, in that case ;)14:20
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: arora: updated to 0.11.015:29
frinnstmost awesome article ever?15:48
frinnsthttp://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/sep/24/115:48
thrice`mm, I never have luck with unetbootin on linux :(15:56
thrice`I get 'out of space' errors, trying to copy a 400mb iso to a 512mb stick, and it stops after about 140mb of the iso is done15:58
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cipppi use grub to install linux , http://pastebin.ca/194992816:24
cipppthis is a grub before crux :)16:25
frinnstinitrd?16:29
frinnsti still dont get the point of those16:29
frinnstunless you have a very generic kernel16:29
cipppits kernel and initrd from iso , i put in harddisk and boot16:30
cipppi serach a link if you want16:30
frinnstfrom the crux cd?16:30
frinnstnah, no need for a link16:30
thrice`cippp, does it load in to memory or something ?16:31
cipppinitrd have like 20 mb or more16:32
cipppand here have tools to boot from network , disk ...16:33
thrice`I mean, is it possible to say for example the iso on /dev/sda2/home/file.iso , but still install to /dev/sda2  ?16:33
thrice`if that makes sense16:33
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thrice`I guess I could just put it on to the USB stick have have grub boot that16:34
thrice`it seems 'loopback loop (hd0,X)/file.iso' is good enough16:34
cipppits more to say , just a sec to search a link :)16:35
cippphttp://fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/installing-fedora-using-pxe-images16:37
cippphttp://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html16:39
thrice`ah, ok16:41
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thrice`actually, I have a separate /home (/dev/sda3) , so I wonder if I can load the ISO form (hd0,3), and still have /dev/sda2 available for installing to16:45
cipppafter you boot from initrd you have a small linux with tool for install16:47
cipppi dont know if this know to install from a iso file or you need to extract this iso before16:47
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cipppthrice`: what you want to install ?16:51
thrice`this is a suse image16:56
entelinux 3.11 or linux 95?16:59
enteand which one is for workgroups?17:00
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entehow much is the licensing fee? :)17:00
cipppente: ?17:02
cipppthrice`: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Remote_installation17:03
cipppboot like here , and see how work17:04
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cipppafter boot download from internet less than 100 mb and have full install options17:05
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andariusgreetings and salutations19:42
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