IRC Logs for #crux Tuesday, 2010-09-28

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carporoot@git-2:~# prt-get depinst apache00:42
carpoprt-get: installing /usr/ports/opt/expat00:42
carpo=======> Downloading 'http://dl.sourceforge.net/expat/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz'.00:42
carpo--2010-09-28 05:40:07--  http://dl.sourceforge.net/expat/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz00:42
carpoResolving dl.sourceforge.net... 216.34.181.13800:42
carpoConnecting to sourceforge.net|216.34.181.60|:80... connected.00:42
carpoHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently00:42
carpoLocation: http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files_beta/ [following]00:42
carpo--2010-09-28 05:40:10--  http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files_beta/00:42
carpoConnecting to sourceforge.net|216.34.181.60|:80... connected.00:42
carpoHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK00:42
carpoLength: 21999 (21K) [text/html]00:42
carpoSaving to: `/usr/ports/opt/expat/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz.partial'00:42
carpo100%[======================================================================>] 21,999      59.5K/s   in 0.4s00:42
carpo2010-09-28 05:40:13 (59.5 KB/s) - `/usr/ports/opt/expat/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz.partial' saved [21999/21999]00:42
carpo=======> ERROR: Md5sum mismatch found:00:42
carpoMISSING   ee8b492592568805593f81f8cdf2a04c  expat-2.0.1.tar.gz00:42
carpoNEW       566bf1a9f1eddfe3589c0afeef036b93  expat-2.0.1.tar.gz00:42
carpo=======> ERROR: Building '/usr/ports/opt/expat/expat#2.0.1-2.pkg.tar.gz' failed.00:42
carpoprt-get: error while install00:43
carpo-- Packages where install failed00:43
carpoexpat00:43
carpothis is on CRUX 2.7 installed from the rc3 iso, consisting only of the core port. Ideas?00:43
tadzikdamn, use some nopaste00:48
tadzikthen, try removing the tarball and downloading again, maybe it's broken somehow00:49
carpoI well, I actually think its a wget problem - I went to the download site mentioned above with my usual browser00:50
carpocopied the link from sf.net (the DIRECT LINK one), gave it to wget, and voila - I have the correct file00:51
tadzikas I said, it may be just this one download has failed somehow00:53
tadzikI just updated my expat, it's ok. I'm on 2.7 too00:54
carpoOKk, so is it sf.net or wget? or do I blame my crappy ISP?00:58
tadzikcan you reproduce it?00:59
tadzikit just happens sometimes, that's what md5sum checks are for01:00
carpowell, after I gave wget the correct link, it got the file, and then "prt-get depinst apache" worked "like magic"® ;)01:00
pitillogood morning01:01
tadzikgood morning01:04
carpogood morning01:05
pitillo:)01:05
carpotadzik: after "prt-get depinst apache" I figured to reproduce it, I would need to do a "prt-get remove expat apr apache", and then again "prt-get depinst apache"01:06
carpotadzik: guess what? it failed exactly like I posted...01:06
tadzikwell, you could just remove expat and a tarball and install it again01:06
tadzikoh, funny01:07
tadzikis your ports tree up-to-date?01:07
carpotadzik: yeah01:07
tadzikfile a bug maybe01:07
tadzikand, is your system up-to-date?01:08
carpobut, the thing is, it happened for me on other sf.net hosted packages, but on different machines01:08
carpomy system? I'm running crux-2.7-rc3.iso + prt-get sysup01:08
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carpois there a more "up-to-date" way of doing things in crux?01:09
konsumerHello everyone01:09
carpoand I installed it yesterday...01:09
konsumeri hear crux has an actual desktop, Openbox, right?01:10
konsumeris there a special command to initiate the desktop?01:10
tadzikhowdy, two new cruxers one morning01:10
tadzikkonsumer: like everywhere, just startx01:10
tadzikkonsumer: nothing CRUX-specific01:11
konsumeri actually tried that01:11
tadzikkonsumer: and I won't call it "actual desktop". Wikipedia lists Openbox as a CRUX main wm, because it's in ports on the cd01:11
konsumeri actually read it from distrowatch :P01:12
konsumeralso, how do i know if im on root ? all i see is the #01:12
pitillocarpo: I think there is no other way atm, may be in the future will be released an up to date iso (with updated ports on it) but atm RC3 is that, the future 2.7 release01:12
tadzikcarpo: nah, seems you're as up to date as you could be. Strange thought, it works fine for me. Anyway, you can just file a bug if you're sure something's broken01:12
tadzikkonsumer: 'whoami' can tell you01:12
tadzikkonsumer: but # usually means you're on root01:12
konsumeri am able to type commands, but 'startx' just wont do anything. It says "bash: startx command not found"01:12
tadzikkonsumer: are X'es installed?01:13
konsumeri assumed it came with it01:13
tadzikor, are you on the livecd by any chance?01:13
konsumersince it comes with a form of desktop01:13
konsumeryesh, the live cd on a server01:13
tadzikwell, it doesn't. All you get is a console environment01:13
konsumerAh ok01:13
konsumerso, only after the install can i startx eh01:14
tadzikjust type 'setup'01:14
tadzikyep01:14
konsumerhehe, doing01:14
konsumerty for the help fellas01:14
tadzikyw01:14
konsumerthe ubuntu guys are too busy with being so awesome these days01:14
konsumer:P01:14
tadzik:)01:14
pitillokonsumer: you must select the collections you want to install from the iso, may be you didn't add the xorg collection?01:14
konsumeri just selected it01:15
tadzikpitillo: he hasn't installed anything yet :)01:15
konsumeri selected em all01:16
konsumerits only a few mb anyways01:16
konsumerits installing01:16
konsumerthis is much easier than arch vtw01:16
konsumerbtw*01:16
pitilloummmmm he is atm stalled before the setup step do you mean?01:16
konsumerim right here, you can ask me :P01:16
tadzik:)01:16
konsumerfist time using crux01:16
konsumerives gone through about 30 distros01:16
konsumeri hear great things about crux on older machines01:17
konsumeri have an old xeon server01:17
pitillonot only older machines konsumer01:17
konsumerwanted to make it an ircd01:17
konsumeri can finally rid myself of windows server 200301:18
konsumerOh god, so many errors01:20
konsumeri should format the drive01:21
pitillokonsumer: are you following the handbook?01:21
konsumermostly the pictures :P01:21
pitillothat's a good resource (I think a need) for new users01:21
pitillopictures? which handbook are you using?01:22
konsumerthe one from here http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook2-6#ntoc901:23
pitillook, I don't see there so much pictures :)01:24
konsumeri just had some pics open01:25
konsumer1sec, lol01:25
konsumerhttp://crux.nu/doc/screenshots.html01:25
pitilloxD01:25
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konsumerguess i just don't have it01:44
konsumerenough skills to be a crux user01:44
konsumerso much fail :(01:44
tadzikwhat do you mean?01:45
pitillokonsumer: start reading the handbook instead of following pictures, that will give you an idea about the install process and about CRUX usage01:46
tadzikgood handbook is good01:46
konsumeri did :/01:47
konsumermaybe i skipped a part, but this will be the 3rd try :)01:47
pitillotry to share which errors are you getting, or explaining a bit the problems you are finding, without more info we can't help01:49
konsumerwill do, if i get an error.01:50
konsumerguys, on this part "fdisk /dev/hd?" since i have sata, do i type "/dev/sda"01:54
carpofor starters, I would do "fdisk -l", which would list what the system running sees...01:55
konsumerok01:56
carpothen you will know what to type: fdisk /dev/sda or fdisk /dev/hda or whatever01:56
konsumerOh yes, that worked :D01:57
carpoalways does01:57
konsumerit was sda01:57
konsumerok, so for this part "mkfs.???? /dev/hd??"01:58
pitilloor if you don't feel confortable with fdisk, you can use cfdisk too01:58
konsumerdo i replace those question marks with something ?01:58
carpodid your "old server" had any OS on it, or was it wiped clean?01:58
konsumerwhipe01:58
konsumerwhiped and deleted the ntfs01:59
pitillokonsumer: yes, with the file system you want to format and use in that partition and the last question marks for the partition you created with fdisk01:59
konsumerso, ".mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda" ?02:00
carposorry, not a native english speaker02:00
konsumerfala portuges?02:00
carpocan you say what "fdisk -l" says?02:00
konsumersure02:01
pitillokonsumer: sda makes reference to a disk, not a partition02:01
carpoI'm from Bulgaria, so no portuges, sorry!02:01
konsumer:P02:01
konsumer1sec02:01
konsumershould i do exptended or primary partition?02:02
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juemorning02:03
carpowell, I usually do this:02:03
carposda1 is 200MB, mounted at /boot02:03
carposda2 is extended, covers the rest of the drive02:04
tadzikhello jue02:04
carposda5 I make like 6-8 GB - for the main distro02:04
tadzikjue: I have ck4up backtraces for you02:04
carpoand everything else - in separate partitions for the sepecific application of the machine02:04
tadzikjue: http://gist.github.com/60054102:04
konsumeroic02:04
konsumerdid not know i can make more than on from the same hdd02:05
carpokonsumer: you may whant a look here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html02:05
juetadzik: thanks02:05
konsumerThanks02:06
konsumerthis is the first of a few errorsd02:06
konsumererrors*02:06
konsumerhttp://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3286/crux1.png02:06
konsumeri am testing this on VM before i install on my server02:07
konsumerand the list of errors is about 100+ lines long02:07
carpokonsumer: ok, exit setup and check what "df -h" says02:07
juetadzik: looks like a ruby bug, x86_64?02:07
pitillokonsumer: have you mounted the created/formated partition to the mount point?02:08
konsumeri suppose i did02:10
konsumerlet me start all over02:10
konsumersorry guys, new to this02:10
konsumercarpo: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7851/crux2.png02:11
konsumeri downloaded this one "crux-2.6.iso"02:12
konsumerfrom the site02:12
konsumerThanks anyways fellas, im going to try something a little more user friendly. maybe slackware or debian02:18
konsumeri cant be wasting hours on something as simple as an install :P02:18
konsumer<3 peace02:19
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pitilloxD02:19
pitilloread carefully is simplier...02:20
carpowhy hours - it installs practically for minutes, and on my ESXi server crux-2.7-rc3 installed in 2-3 minutes (only core, but still...)02:23
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: geeqie: initial release02:24
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gqview: removed, superseded by geeqie02:24
tadzikjue: nah, 32bit02:25
tadzikoh, geeqie in opt02:25
tadzik„something a little more user friendly. maybe slackware”02:25
tadzikI'm done here :D02:25
juetadzik: have you seen this with older ruby version as well?02:26
tadzikjue: nope, only after update02:27
tadzik(I'm on 2.7 btw)02:27
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sepenmorning02:28
pitillomorning sepen02:28
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frinnstdl.sourceforge.net is broken03:00
frinnsthttp://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=64903:01
frinnsthttp://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=58703:01
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Romsterdl.sourceforge.net has been broken for ages downloads.sourceforge.net works.03:20
juefrinnst: thanks for the hint, will try to fix at least the core ports today03:21
Romsteri have told others to use that but no one listens.03:21
Romstersed -i -e 's|dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge|downloads.sourceforge.net|g' */Pkgfile03:22
frinnstRomster: i run a command like that everytime i build a iso :)03:22
Romstersee03:23
Romsterso do i on contrib and opt.03:23
juebut that's still a redirect, I'd prefer to use something like that -> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/$name/$name/$version/$name-$version.tar.gz03:24
juebut yes, it's more work03:25
Romsterjsut watch out for some ports that use a speffic mirror.03:26
Romsteri have added mirror://sourceforege/$name/$name-$version.tar..... to my Pkgfiles and have a random selection of mirrors to use out of a file in /etc/ports/mirror/sourceforge03:27
Romsterat least that redirect does seem to work 99% of the time.03:27
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frinnsti have yet to encounter a download.sourceforge.net link that fails03:29
Romsteri think i had one hang /once/03:30
Romsterout of the many times i use them03:31
Romsterprobably a general net issue at that same time.03:31
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: new sourceforge url03:52
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: new sourceforge url03:52
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.703:52
juefrinnst: feel free to do a mass-replace for opt if you have some spare time04:01
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Romstersweeet \o/04:10
Romsterthough i don't think i added the projects directory to mine...04:10
Romsterperhaps i should.04:11
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: desktop-file-utils: adopted and updated to 0.1704:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: hal-info: new maintainer04:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: hal: new maintainer04:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: libglade: new maintainer04:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: p5-uri: adopted and updated to 1.5504:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: p5-xml-parser: adopted and updated to 2.4004:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: startup-notification: new maintainer04:44
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: pygobject: new maintainer04:48
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: pygtk: new maintainer04:48
frinnstjue: if its ok, i will05:18
frinnst48 files changed, 59 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)05:21
sepenfrinnst, could you use wgetpaste -l Diff to show us?05:22
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frinnstwould look something like this: http://www.obra.se/diff05:32
sepenseems fine05:34
jueyeah, go for it05:38
frinnstboom05:39
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: replaced all broken dl.sourceforge.net links to download.sourceforge.net.05:39
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mhi:o05:49
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juefrinnst: thanks06:06
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Romsternow the rest of the repos need to follow suite. i've aldeady done my ports long ago.07:15
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: mplayer: add yasm dependency09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: desktop-file-utils: adopted and updated to 0.1709:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: hal-info: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: hal: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: libglade: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: p5-uri: adopted and updated to 1.5509:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: p5-xml-parser: adopted and updated to 2.4009:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: startup-notification: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: pygobject: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: pygtk: new maintainer09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: replaced all broken dl.sourceforge.net links to download.sourceforge.net.09:57
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.709:57
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Ovim-ObscurumDoes anybody of you know, in which package I can find fbi?10:32
Ovim-ObscurumSeems, that I have to compile it for myself.10:39
Zabafbida10:39
Ovim-ObscurumJap, fbida.10:42
Ovim-Obscurumbut there is no such package10:42
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: thunderbird: update10:56
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cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: thunderbird: corrected .desktop file11:02
enteOvim-Obscurum: make one?11:05
Ovim-ObscurumYep, that's, what I will do.11:16
Ovim-Obscurum;)11:16
Ovim-ObscurumBut for that I need to build a CRUX VM, because the only CRUX machine I got, is an 166 Mhz Pentium. :D11:17
entepentium 2?11:25
Ovim-ObscurumNope, pentium 111:27
Ovim-Obscurum;)11:27
enteneat11:28
entei have a mmx, need to put sth decent on it11:28
Ovim-Obscurumsth?11:28
Ovim-Obscurumah, something11:29
Ovim-ObscurumWell, CRUX 2.6 runs good on my tiny libretto with 166 mhz. I even browse using framebuffer and wlan/wpa211:29
Ovim-Obscurum;D11:29
entesorry, I was eating in parallel so I was a bit lazy11:42
Ovim-ObscurumNo problem.11:43
entecpu clock is a bad indicator for speed11:45
Ovim-ObscurumOkay.11:45
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cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: git: updated to 1.7.3.12:47
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cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: man-pages: update to 3.2713:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: man-pages: update to 3.2713:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.713:17
cruxbot[core.git/2.6]: libdevmapper: fix source url13:25
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libdevmapper: fix source url13:25
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.713:25
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: gnuplot: update to 4.4.213:31
cruxbot[opt.git/2.6]: lvm2: fix source url13:31
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: gnuplot: update to 4.4.213:31
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: lvm2: fix source url13:31
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: Merge branch '2.6' into 2.713:31
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libdevmapper: typo13:33
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Ovim-ObscurumUh, is there a how-to for writing Pkgfiles?13:58
Ovim-ObscurumMine isn't working very well, it compiles the software and installes the package, but I don't move the binary files to /usr/bin13:58
Ovim-ObscurumAny hints?13:58
tadzikHandbook13:58
Ovim-ObscurumRead some other Pkgfiles, but I don't get closer to it.13:58
Ovim-ObscurumOh, it's described in the handbook? Well, thanks a lot!13:59
tadzikwhat package are you porting?13:59
Ovim-Obscurumfbida13:59
tadzikoh cool13:59
tadzikwell, you may want to steal Arch PKGBUILD, just make it sane13:59
Ovim-ObscurumPKGBUILD is equal to PKGfile?13:59
tadzikthey're PKGBUILD tend to be madly insane, I was porting Pulseaudio yesterday, gosh14:00
tadzikno, but it's awfully close14:00
Ovim-ObscurumAh ok :)14:00
thrice`Ovim-Obscurum, stupid question, but did you install the resulting package with pkgadd after doing pkgmk ?14:00
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Ovim-ObscurumI installed it using prt-get14:00
Ovim-ObscurumThe pkg is installed, yep!14:00
tadzikOvim-Obscurum: show the code :)14:00
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.6]: changed dl.sourceforge to download.sourceforge14:01
Ovim-ObscurumAh I got it.14:02
Ovim-ObscurumThe problem was, fbida does NOT use a ./configure script.14:02
Ovim-ObscurumYou have to set the prefix to /usr using export.14:02
tadzikI won't call that a problem :)14:02
Ovim-ObscurumAnd that's, what I forgot. Shame on meh!14:02
Ovim-Obscurum:D14:02
tadzikone dumb script checking for existance of strcmp() less14:02
Ovim-ObscurumOkay.14:02
Ovim-ObscurumIt's my first Pkgfile ;)14:03
Ovim-Obscurum*G*14:03
tadzik:)14:03
tadzikI remember, when I was reading handbook, how amazed I was by the simplicity of ports in CRUX14:03
Ovim-ObscurumDo you want to see the code?14:03
Ovim-ObscurumMaybe I forgot somethin else? :D14:03
tadzikgo on, if you have problems14:03
Ovim-ObscurumYep, it sounds very simple!14:03
Ovim-ObscurumI like it.14:03
Ovim-ObscurumThere are some other tools, I miss. I will port them, too!14:03
Ovim-Obscurum:)14:03
tadzikOvim-Obscurum++14:04
Ovim-Obscurumharr harr :D14:04
Ovim-ObscurumFor example the xfbdev server ;D14:04
tadzikI remember some old ports for firefox on framebuffer by ecarux (ecacrux?)14:05
Ovim-ObscurumWow, thats cool!14:05
Ovim-ObscurumThat would be a cool application for my libretto.14:05
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Ovim-ObscurumCan I paste my Pkgfile?14:08
tadzikwell, not here14:08
tadzikuse some nopaste14:08
Ovim-ObscurumIn pastebin, of course! ;)14:08
Ovim-Obscurumhttp://paste.lisp.org/display/11499814:09
tadzikhmm14:09
tadzikmake PREFIX=/usr DESTDIR=$PKG install?14:10
Ovim-ObscurumInstead of prefix="..." and export prefix?14:10
tadzikyep14:10
Ovim-ObscurumWell this might be a better way, the export-Way is a dirty workaround14:10
Ovim-ObscurumOne moment, I will try that. :)14:11
tadzikthat's how your DESTDIR works14:11
tadzikarchers use make DESTDIR="${pkgdir}" prefix=/usr install14:11
Ovim-ObscurumAh, okay.14:11
RotwangI always find ${varname} rather ugly14:13
tadzikme too14:13
Ovim-ObscurumWell that doesn't work.14:13
tadzikdefine14:14
Ovim-ObscurumHe is compiling and building a package, but I can't find the binaries anywhere on the system.14:14
Ovim-Obscurumnot in /usr, not in /usr/bin14:14
jseBuilding a port ! = installing a part.14:15
Ovim-Obscurumtadzik: Got it, PREFIX has to be replaced with prefix14:16
Ovim-Obscurummake prefix=/usr DESTDIR=$PKG install14:16
Ovim-ObscurumThat worked for me.14:16
Rotwangyes case matters [;14:18
Ovim-ObscurumHehe, yep!14:18
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