IRC Logs for #crux Thursday, 2010-12-09

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frinnsthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkMzstCouz4&feature=player_embedded01:11
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juehello06:45
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: jre: update to 1.6.0_2306:47
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: lvm2: update to 2.02.7806:47
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: scite: update to 2.2306:47
cruxbot[opt.git/2.7]: sqlite3: update to 3.7.406:47
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: libdevmapper: update to 1.02.5906:47
cruxbot[core.git/2.7]: lilo: new source URL06:47
tadzikhello jue06:51
thrice`hi jue07:04
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entehi jue08:39
teK_ente: I could but I'm not in core :-)08:40
enteteK_: oh, didn't know that... reported a bug :P08:41
entejue: http://barfooze.de/~moritz/crux/ftck <- do you think this is useful enough to be in prt-utils?08:46
juesure, why not, even if I didn't miss something like that in the past ;)08:50
cruxbot[contrib.git/2.7]: getmail: fix footprint08:51
jueente: may I suggest to change the text for the -f option somewhat?08:53
entesure :)08:53
jueI'd say "instead of .footprint in the current directory"08:54
enteah, good08:54
Rotwanghehe08:54
entejue: although... the .footprint is taken from the directory where the package is, not .08:54
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ente(except when the package is in .)08:55
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jueente: yes, after looking at the source I see now09:10
juebut that will not work ...09:11
entethink about prt-ftck /usr/ports/foo/cups/cups#1.3.4-1.pkg.tar.gz09:11
jueif the package is not in the port-dir, which is quite nkormal09:11
entethen you have -f09:12
juewell, I guess most users are setting PKGMK_PACKAGE_DIR to something09:13
* thrice` 09:13
enteok, that makes sense then09:13
jueso I guess option -f is most often not optional ;)09:14
entedefaulting to .footprint makes more sense I guess09:15
jueyeah, maybe09:16
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divelhi, i know CRUX now and want to know if it's server oriented, thanks in advance09:37
entedepends09:38
teK_it will work for your server just fine..09:38
entehow do you define "server oriented"?09:38
divelhmm, i allowed myself to go for the distrowatch description, maybe it's a bad thing09:40
divelhttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=crux09:40
divel# Category: Desktop09:40
tadzikwell, I don't think CRUX is oriented at all. You define it, by your usagfe09:40
teK_there are collections for kde, gnome and xfce09:41
teK_but this is a desktop thingy09:41
divelyes, suppose :)09:41
teK_divel: define server oriented09:41
divelteK_: 16:40 < divel> hmm, i allowed myself to go for the distrowatch description,  maybe it's a bad thing09:42
diveli didn't define, distrowatch, hence my question09:43
tadzikdivel: OTOH, the only DE available by default is Openbox, which is not quite desktop-y :)09:44
teK_he wants a Server I guess.09:44
teK_CRUX on servers works just fine.09:44
juedivel: on thing might be a problem if you've server usage in mind: CRUX is pam-less09:49
teK_but there's an (inofficial) pam-port, too :-)09:50
jueyeah, indeed :)09:50
divel on thing might be a problem if you've server usage in mind:09:51
divel             CRUX is pam-less09:51
divelops, sorru09:51
divelsorry* (paste bad)09:51
divelresolved doubt, i'll try CRUX, thanks to all09:52
thrice`:)  good luck09:52
teK_have fun09:52
juebbl09:53
divel:)09:53
divelsee you soon!09:55
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teK_btw is it me or why wont progress=bar change wget's display of progress during pkgmk -d?10:14
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* thrice` really wants a prt-get --download-other-source-while-you-compile option, but isn't smart enough to figure it out :(10:18
teK_I have a patch to do download-only10:18
thrice`it's one thing I like about gentoo, is that if sysup has 5 packages to update, it'll download the first, start compiling, but continue fetching source in the background10:19
teK_it does? Never noticed that.10:21
teK_is there an option for this?10:21
thrice`it's the default in gentoo.  prt-get can't do it asaik10:21
teK_for sure10:22
thrice`being on decent internet I don't mind :>  but just a "would be kinda nice and efficient" wishlist item :)10:23
teK_I'm using gentoo exlcusively on a 100MBit line so I won't mind there either10:24
thrice`if you run a big emerge update, ps will probably show wget continuing nicely in the background10:25
teK_I'll checkt that out soon :010:28
entetilman: your mirror doesn't work13:14
jueQ: is the grub we are shipping with our ISO able to boot from ext4?13:57
jaegerI don't think it is but haven't tested for sure13:59
jueok, thanks, I'm asking because of FS#68214:01
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jaegerI think I remember reading that grub 0.X just doesn't support ext4 and btrfs and won't likely14:05
jaegermight be time to upgrade to grub214:05
jueyeah, I thought that I've read/heard that as well, but was not sure14:08
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juebut anyway, grub is unmaintained currently14:08
jaegermay be retirement time, heh14:09
jueyeah, indeed14:10
enteeww grub214:13
* ente hides14:13
enteoh, squeeze has grub214:14
ente*shrug* I use extlinux anyway14:14
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entetilman: I just noticed that you don't need any haskell packages once you have bootstrapped ghc and cabal-install. installing binary packages then using cabal-install is enough. I'll put a binary cabal-install in crux-annoying14:52
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entehow do I look up in which package a file on the fs is contained?15:23
Rotwangpkginfo -o15:24
enteah15:24
entethe description in pkginfo -h is very unclear15:24
teK_~/315:49
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trihi16:04
trii have a problem to get my keyboard layout to de16:06
trii have the following setting in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf but without success - keyboard is still in en layout:16:06
teK_does setmap de workk?16:07
teK_setxkbmap16:07
triSection "InputDevice"16:07
tri        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"16:07
tri        Driver          "kbd"16:07
tri        Option          "CoreKeyboard"16:07
tri        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"16:07
tri        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"16:07
tri        Option          "XkbLayout"     "de"16:07
triOption          "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"16:07
triEndSection16:07
teK_stupid vim bindings.16:07
triyes setmap works16:07
entetri: please use a pastebin16:08
teK_neee16:08
triente: sorry16:08
entenee? :)16:08
teK_Section "InputDevice" Identifier     "Keyboard0" Driver         "evdev" Option         "XModel"  "pc105" Option         "XLayout" "de"16:08
teK_EndSection16:08
teK_doh :D16:08
teK_http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302909/16:09
teK_that's what my xorg.conf looks like16:09
* ente just sets it in the xinitrc16:09
teK_have you had a llook at xorg.log?16:09
enteactually I use the US layout and apply some changes via xmodmap16:09
teK_setting it via .xinitrc would work for sure.. I just discovered that I have us as standard despite the setting in xorg16:10
teK_.conf16:10
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entewasn't that deprecated or something?16:23
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triok - de layout is working now... :)16:29
trii created a file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/05-keymap.conf with the following content16:30
trihttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0pxj5EHv16:31
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thrice`fyi, you should edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/  for those things :>  /usr/share/X11 for system-installed, /etc/X11/ for admin-installed16:50
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entewhere do I apply for contrib again? the contrib ml?16:55
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andariusgreetings and salutations17:43
entesalutations and hallucinations17:44
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